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"Why is it they believe you are stupid if you can’t do what they do? Yet they can’t do what others do Including being civil " Go get back out of bed on the other side and cheer up  | |||
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"Why is it they believe you are stupid if you can’t do what they do? Yet they can’t do what others do Including being civil Go get back out of bed on the other side and cheer up "Great contribution | |||
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"What about the customers that look down there noses at trades people (ladies included) " That’s usually after they’ve tried to charge you more than a neurosurgeon earns | |||
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"Why is it they believe you are stupid if you can’t do what they do? Yet they can’t do what others do Including being civil " It's not a case of thinking you are stupid, it's more like correcting them when they are wrong after they watch a youtube video and think they know how to fix something | |||
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"Why is it they believe you are stupid if you can’t do what they do? Yet they can’t do what others do Including being civil " Sounds like you’ve had a bad experience. Don’t tar all tradesmen with the same brush. Just like any profession you have your wankers and nice people. I’m sure whatever you do there are people that do the exact same thing.  | |||
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"Why is it they believe you are stupid if you can’t do what they do? Yet they can’t do what others do Including being civil Sounds like you’ve had a bad experience. Don’t tar all tradesmen with the same brush. Just like any profession you have your wankers and nice people. I’m sure whatever you do there are people that do the exact same thing. "Well Several bad experiences and sadly not one good one to balance it against | |||
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"Never had this issue with any tradesmen, but then I'm usually flirting with them. Maybe you should try that next time?" Worth a go haha | |||
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"Why is it they believe you are stupid if you can’t do what they do? Yet they can’t do what others do Including being civil " Rude. Why do you specifically aim this at tradesmen? You could say this about literally any job that someone does and you don't. But is it because you don't see tradesmen as being human they are scumbags who don't deserve any respect for years of experience and work,but because we wear dirty clothes and a bit rough around the edges it's fair game to slag us off and rear us like crap. Yes there's some assholes our there but you can say that about any profession. But hey it's your choice if you think your DIY knowledge is greater than someone who has been doing the job for 40years. We are humans with feelings. Except electricians they are robot's sent to destroy the planet. | |||
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"I’ve never spoken to people in that manner ever, when I was building, I’d explain what needed doing and if they asked any questions I’d answer them politely, but I’ve been spoken to like dirt before because I was just a builder. " Just a builder! Gone are the days where all the money is in office work and banking etc. Learn a trade I say. | |||
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"Why is it they believe you are stupid if you can’t do what they do? Yet they can’t do what others do Including being civil Rude. Why do you specifically aim this at tradesmen? You could say this about literally any job that someone does and you don't. But is it because you don't see tradesmen as being human they are scumbags who don't deserve any respect for years of experience and work,but because we wear dirty clothes and a bit rough around the edges it's fair game to slag us off and rear us like crap. Yes there's some assholes our there but you can say that about any profession. But hey it's your choice if you think your DIY knowledge is greater than someone who has been doing the job for 40years. We are humans with feelings. Except electricians they are robot's sent to destroy the planet." The lady doth protest too much | |||
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"I am always slightly annoyed by the car parts guys. I go in and ask for a specific part and they then start asking me loads of questions as though I won’t actually have a clue what the part is for. I was married to a mechanic for years and I still ask his advice if necessary. They then act all surprised when I know what I am talking about. Not all women are only interested hair, nails, clothes and makeup." On the flip side, they always address me whenever we go into a garage. Mate, it's got wheels and doors, past that, ask her! | |||
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"Why is it they believe you are stupid if you can’t do what they do? Yet they can’t do what others do Including being civil Rude. Why do you specifically aim this at tradesmen? You could say this about literally any job that someone does and you don't. But is it because you don't see tradesmen as being human they are scumbags who don't deserve any respect for years of experience and work,but because we wear dirty clothes and a bit rough around the edges it's fair game to slag us off and rear us like crap. Yes there's some assholes our there but you can say that about any profession. But hey it's your choice if you think your DIY knowledge is greater than someone who has been doing the job for 40years. We are humans with feelings. Except electricians they are robot's sent to destroy the planet." While you’re being over defensive Let’s throw on not turning up for quotes Not turning up | |||
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"Why is it they believe you are stupid if you can’t do what they do? Yet they can’t do what others do Including being civil " Not all trades are like that. | |||
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"Why is it they believe you are stupid if you can’t do what they do? Yet they can’t do what others do Including being civil It's not a case of thinking you are stupid, it's more like correcting them when they are wrong after they watch a youtube video and think they know how to fix something " I've made a bit of money over the years putting right what people have mocked up after thinking they can do things theve seen on u tube Plastering was the main one,but I never blamed anyone for trying | |||
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"Why is it they believe you are stupid if you can’t do what they do? Yet they can’t do what others do Including being civil Sounds like you’ve had a bad experience. Don’t tar all tradesmen with the same brush. Just like any profession you have your wankers and nice people. I’m sure whatever you do there are people that do the exact same thing.
Well
Several bad experiences and sadly not one good one to balance it against "Is there a common denominator? Unless we're talking about the KKK or something, the belief that a person's behavoir, personality type, manners or pretty much any other metric is determined by their membership of an arbitrary group as defined by you generally says more about you than about them. Mr | |||
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"What about the customers that look down there noses at trades people (ladies included) That’s usually after they’ve tried to charge you more than a neurosurgeon earns " Is this the root of your issue with them, you didnt like the price? They are in high demand at the moment, so prices are on the increase for everyone. | |||
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"Why is it they believe you are stupid if you can’t do what they do? Yet they can’t do what others do Including being civil Rude. Why do you specifically aim this at tradesmen? You could say this about literally any job that someone does and you don't. But is it because you don't see tradesmen as being human they are scumbags who don't deserve any respect for years of experience and work,but because we wear dirty clothes and a bit rough around the edges it's fair game to slag us off and rear us like crap. Yes there's some assholes our there but you can say that about any profession. But hey it's your choice if you think your DIY knowledge is greater than someone who has been doing the job for 40years. We are humans with feelings. Except electricians they are robot's sent to destroy the planet. The lady doth protest too much " Now who's not being civil. Mate! I'm a man a carpenter of almost 40 years And I have had to put of with ALOT more rudeness than should be expected in the workplace. Hence the defensive attitude. Would you take your car in to be repaired then promptly start telling the mechanic how to do his job or go to your GP and tell them or get haircut and tell them how to cut hair? But because you have seen a YouTube instructional video on how to screw in a lightbulb that makes you a professional? The main issue with the trade these days it's full of cowboys and chancetakers who aren't PROPER tradesmen who have done a bit of DIY and assume they can make a living out of it and then give everyone else a bad name. | |||
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"Why is it they believe you are stupid if you can’t do what they do? Yet they can’t do what others do Including being civil Sounds like you’ve had a bad experience. Don’t tar all tradesmen with the same brush. Just like any profession you have your wankers and nice people. I’m sure whatever you do there are people that do the exact same thing.
Well
Several bad experiences and sadly not one good one to balance it against
Is there a common denominator?
Unless we're talking about the KKK or something, the belief that a person's behavoir, personality type, manners or pretty much any other metric is determined by their membership of an arbitrary group as defined by you generally says more about you than about them.
Mr"Whilst I appreciate your attempt to blame me in a “look how articulate I am way” If I contact 14 trades and none bother getting back to me There’s been no face to face interaction so it’s not possible Nice try | |||
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"Why is it they believe you are stupid if you can’t do what they do? Yet they can’t do what others do Including being civil Rude. Why do you specifically aim this at tradesmen? You could say this about literally any job that someone does and you don't. But is it because you don't see tradesmen as being human they are scumbags who don't deserve any respect for years of experience and work,but because we wear dirty clothes and a bit rough around the edges it's fair game to slag us off and rear us like crap. Yes there's some assholes our there but you can say that about any profession. But hey it's your choice if you think your DIY knowledge is greater than someone who has been doing the job for 40years. We are humans with feelings. Except electricians they are robot's sent to destroy the planet. The lady doth protest too much Now who's not being civil. Mate! I'm a man a carpenter of almost 40 years And I have had to put of with ALOT more rudeness than should be expected in the workplace. Hence the defensive attitude. Would you take your car in to be repaired then promptly start telling the mechanic how to do his job or go to your GP and tell them or get haircut and tell them how to cut hair? But because you have seen a YouTube instructional video on how to screw in a lightbulb that makes you a professional? The main issue with the trade these days it's full of cowboys and chancetakers who aren't PROPER tradesmen who have done a bit of DIY and assume they can make a living out of it and then give everyone else a bad name. " Dude, save your energy, don’t engage, you’ll feel better, sometimes it’s really not worth getting heated with people. Have a good day   | |||
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"Why is it they believe you are stupid if you can’t do what they do? Yet they can’t do what others do Including being civil Sounds like you’ve had a bad experience. Don’t tar all tradesmen with the same brush. Just like any profession you have your wankers and nice people. I’m sure whatever you do there are people that do the exact same thing.
Well
Several bad experiences and sadly not one good one to balance it against
Is there a common denominator?
Unless we're talking about the KKK or something, the belief that a person's behavoir, personality type, manners or pretty much any other metric is determined by their membership of an arbitrary group as defined by you generally says more about you than about them.
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Whilst I appreciate your attempt to blame me in a “look how articulate I am way”
If I contact 14 trades and none bother getting back to me
There’s been no face to face interaction so it’s not possible
Nice try "Oh, this is a variation of 'I've contacted someone so they owe me a response' argument. Maybe they're absolutely flat out and don't have time to answer dozens of requests? To read through loads of emails? Maybe something in your email settings mean that your mails go to junk? Or maybe everyone who works in a specific range of jobs is rude. Mr | |||
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"Why is it they believe you are stupid if you can’t do what they do? Yet they can’t do what others do Including being civil Sounds like you’ve had a bad experience. Don’t tar all tradesmen with the same brush. Just like any profession you have your wankers and nice people. I’m sure whatever you do there are people that do the exact same thing.
Well
Several bad experiences and sadly not one good one to balance it against
Is there a common denominator?
Unless we're talking about the KKK or something, the belief that a person's behavoir, personality type, manners or pretty much any other metric is determined by their membership of an arbitrary group as defined by you generally says more about you than about them.
Mr
Whilst I appreciate your attempt to blame me in a “look how articulate I am way”
If I contact 14 trades and none bother getting back to me
There’s been no face to face interaction so it’s not possible
Nice try
Oh, this is a variation of 'I've contacted someone so they owe me a response' argument.
Maybe they're absolutely flat out and don't have time to answer dozens of requests? To read through loads of emails? Maybe something in your email settings mean that your mails go to junk? Or maybe everyone who works in a specific range of jobs is rude.
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"To all hard working tradesman out there, have a good day. Peace "Grrrrrrrr fucking arsehole clients!!!!! To be fair we have only had two arsehole clients imho in over 40 years so mostly lovely non arseholeish clients. Tony | |||
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"Why is it they believe you are stupid if you can’t do what they do? Yet they can’t do what others do Including being civil Sounds like you’ve had a bad experience. Don’t tar all tradesmen with the same brush. Just like any profession you have your wankers and nice people. I’m sure whatever you do there are people that do the exact same thing.
Well
Several bad experiences and sadly not one good one to balance it against
Is there a common denominator?
Unless we're talking about the KKK or something, the belief that a person's behavoir, personality type, manners or pretty much any other metric is determined by their membership of an arbitrary group as defined by you generally says more about you than about them.
Mr
Whilst I appreciate your attempt to blame me in a “look how articulate I am way”
If I contact 14 trades and none bother getting back to me
There’s been no face to face interaction so it’s not possible
Nice try
Oh, this is a variation of 'I've contacted someone so they owe me a response' argument.
Maybe they're absolutely flat out and don't have time to answer dozens of requests? To read through loads of emails? Maybe something in your email settings mean that your mails go to junk? Or maybe everyone who works in a specific range of jobs is rude.
Mr"Those dozens of requests are people asking you to work for them What you signed up for as a sole trader Your life blood Maybe one day the e mails will stop Then what ? | |||
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"Why is it they believe you are stupid if you can’t do what they do? Yet they can’t do what others do Including being civil Sounds like you’ve had a bad experience. Don’t tar all tradesmen with the same brush. Just like any profession you have your wankers and nice people. I’m sure whatever you do there are people that do the exact same thing.
Well
Several bad experiences and sadly not one good one to balance it against
Is there a common denominator?
Unless we're talking about the KKK or something, the belief that a person's behavoir, personality type, manners or pretty much any other metric is determined by their membership of an arbitrary group as defined by you generally says more about you than about them.
Mr
Whilst I appreciate your attempt to blame me in a “look how articulate I am way”
If I contact 14 trades and none bother getting back to me
There’s been no face to face interaction so it’s not possible
Nice try
Oh, this is a variation of 'I've contacted someone so they owe me a response' argument.
Maybe they're absolutely flat out and don't have time to answer dozens of requests? To read through loads of emails? Maybe something in your email settings mean that your mails go to junk? Or maybe everyone who works in a specific range of jobs is rude.
Mr
Those dozens of requests are people asking you to work for them
What you signed up for as a sole trader
Your life blood
Maybe one day the e mails will stop
Then what ?"Dunno mate, but this thread is full of people saying nice things about tradesmen, and you claiming they're rude because you don't get a reply. I'm probably not what you'd class as a tradesman but do know how hard it can be keeping on top of running a business. Right now, trades people are absolutely flat out, perhaps take no reply as "Sorry mate I'm way too busy" You seem to be saying that because at some undetermined point in the future the balance of supply and demand may swing the other way they should give up there time (which equates to money)to keep people like you happy? Presumably if that swing were to happen you'd be the type to give up your time and money arranging jobs that you don't really want doing simply to keep local trades guys in business so that when demand swings back again they're there for you if you need them? Mr | |||
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"Why is it they believe you are stupid if you can’t do what they do? Yet they can’t do what others do Including being civil Sounds like you’ve had a bad experience. Don’t tar all tradesmen with the same brush. Just like any profession you have your wankers and nice people. I’m sure whatever you do there are people that do the exact same thing.
Well
Several bad experiences and sadly not one good one to balance it against
Is there a common denominator?
Unless we're talking about the KKK or something, the belief that a person's behavoir, personality type, manners or pretty much any other metric is determined by their membership of an arbitrary group as defined by you generally says more about you than about them.
Mr
Whilst I appreciate your attempt to blame me in a “look how articulate I am way”
If I contact 14 trades and none bother getting back to me
There’s been no face to face interaction so it’s not possible
Nice try
Oh, this is a variation of 'I've contacted someone so they owe me a response' argument.
Maybe they're absolutely flat out and don't have time to answer dozens of requests? To read through loads of emails? Maybe something in your email settings mean that your mails go to junk? Or maybe everyone who works in a specific range of jobs is rude.
Mr
Those dozens of requests are people asking you to work for them
What you signed up for as a sole trader
Your life blood
Maybe one day the e mails will stop
Then what ?
Dunno mate, but this thread is full of people saying nice things about tradesmen, and you claiming they're rude because you don't get a reply.
I'm probably not what you'd class as a tradesman but do know how hard it can be keeping on top of running a business. Right now, trades people are absolutely flat out, perhaps take no reply as "Sorry mate I'm way too busy"
You seem to be saying that because at some undetermined point in the future the balance of supply and demand may swing the other way they should give up there time (which equates to money)to keep people like you happy? Presumably if that swing were to happen you'd be the type to give up your time and money arranging jobs that you don't really want doing simply to keep local trades guys in business so that when demand swings back again they're there for you if you need them?
Mr"Just out of interest How long did it take you to type “Sorry I’m too busy” | |||
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"Why is it they believe you are stupid if you can’t do what they do? Yet they can’t do what others do Including being civil Sounds like you’ve had a bad experience. Don’t tar all tradesmen with the same brush. Just like any profession you have your wankers and nice people. I’m sure whatever you do there are people that do the exact same thing.
Well
Several bad experiences and sadly not one good one to balance it against
Is there a common denominator?
Unless we're talking about the KKK or something, the belief that a person's behavoir, personality type, manners or pretty much any other metric is determined by their membership of an arbitrary group as defined by you generally says more about you than about them.
Mr
Whilst I appreciate your attempt to blame me in a “look how articulate I am way”
If I contact 14 trades and none bother getting back to me
There’s been no face to face interaction so it’s not possible
Nice try "It sounds like all 14 were very good judges of character and made the right decision. | |||
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"Why is it they believe you are stupid if you can’t do what they do? Yet they can’t do what others do Including being civil Not all trades are like that. " Been a landlord now for 30 years so have a range of tradesmen work for me. But 1 house is tenant is always a problem for them. 4 bed detached house in a village. Couple are the most difficult condescending assholes I've ever had the misfortune to meet. Having never met me I went to check repair the so called leaking waste pipe under the sink. It was blocked up and as I dismantled it I got a tirade of abuse and remarks about how if I'd studied harder I might be better than just a sink cleaner and own a house like theirs. Finished the job went home and billed them my rates for doing the job as it was their fault. Moral of the story be careful who you belittle and put down. You don't know them or their story. | |||
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"Why is it they believe you are stupid if you can’t do what they do? Yet they can’t do what others do Including being civil Sounds like you’ve had a bad experience. Don’t tar all tradesmen with the same brush. Just like any profession you have your wankers and nice people. I’m sure whatever you do there are people that do the exact same thing.
Well
Several bad experiences and sadly not one good one to balance it against
Is there a common denominator?
Unless we're talking about the KKK or something, the belief that a person's behavoir, personality type, manners or pretty much any other metric is determined by their membership of an arbitrary group as defined by you generally says more about you than about them.
Mr
Whilst I appreciate your attempt to blame me in a “look how articulate I am way”
If I contact 14 trades and none bother getting back to me
There’s been no face to face interaction so it’s not possible
Nice try
It sounds like all 14 were very good judges of character and made the right decision."You’re a trade I can tell How can Hi Wondered if you’d give us a quote be bad ? Stop making excuses for being shit | |||
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