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"Is there a growing problem on fab that people feel increasingly entitled? I’ve spotted quite a few threads, comments and attitudes that point towards people thinking that they’re owed attention, interactions or sex, just by virtue of having a profile. This in itself isn’t a new thing but the frequency and volume seems to be growing. Do you feel that it’s an issue? Do you believe that you’re owed something or deserve something, by virtue of who you are or how you are? Is it justified? Am I asking too many questions and need to post about fluffy bunnies? Thoughts folks…" I demand to suck your penis | |||
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"Stop putting others on pedestal they don't deserve. " I don’t see how that’s relevant to the question | |||
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"I now feel entitled to fluffy bunnies. Where are my fluffy bunnies?! " There's a FAB Form you have to fill... | |||
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"Is there a growing problem on fab that people feel increasingly entitled? I’ve spotted quite a few threads, comments and attitudes that point towards people thinking that they’re owed attention, interactions or sex, just by virtue of having a profile. This in itself isn’t a new thing but the frequency and volume seems to be growing. Do you feel that it’s an issue? Do you believe that you’re owed something or deserve something, by virtue of who you are or how you are? Is it justified? Am I asking too many questions and need to post about fluffy bunnies? Thoughts folks… Very sweeping statement...include some examples " No it’s not and if you don’t know what I’m talking about, then look at the double standards thread, there are a few examples on there | |||
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"You mean I'm not!? " You’re entitled to cakes, as is every forum poster. Sadly it’s urinal cakes | |||
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"Is there a growing problem on fab that people feel increasingly entitled? I’ve spotted quite a few threads, comments and attitudes that point towards people thinking that they’re owed attention, interactions or sex, just by virtue of having a profile. This in itself isn’t a new thing but the frequency and volume seems to be growing. Do you feel that it’s an issue? Do you believe that you’re owed something or deserve something, by virtue of who you are or how you are? Is it justified? Am I asking too many questions and need to post about fluffy bunnies? Thoughts folks… I demand to suck your penis " | |||
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"You mean I'm not!? You’re entitled to cakes, as is every forum poster. Sadly it’s urinal cakes" Oh... | |||
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"Is there a growing problem on fab that people feel increasingly entitled? I’ve spotted quite a few threads, comments and attitudes that point towards people thinking that they’re owed attention, interactions or sex, just by virtue of having a profile. This in itself isn’t a new thing but the frequency and volume seems to be growing. Do you feel that it’s an issue? Do you believe that you’re owed something or deserve something, by virtue of who you are or how you are? Is it justified? Am I asking too many questions and need to post about fluffy bunnies? Thoughts folks…" I think it's probably become worse due to all the effects of lockdowns and the restriction of our freedoms. | |||
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"It's no worse on FAB than it is in wider society. Reap what you sow , I say. All the molly coddling of those who still sit with open beaks in adulthood and fear of litigation along with the onus on any public body or employer to have a care of duty and it becoming easier to pander to people aided by expensive insurances , than to fight them. The way to get what you want in society now is to ask for it. If it's not forth coming think of something you can post on social media in a whinging kind of way and watch your sympathy pour in and all the fingers point at those that work for what they have and wouldn't just GIVE it away." | |||
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"I think expectations can be high on here. Don't know if it's Entitlement though. I have a profile and I expect people to read it and act accordingly; I'm not entitled to well thought out replies, and I expect there to be many who don't read it properly. " I like the way that you played with expectations vs entitlement there. Do you think that one is acceptable and the other isn’t? | |||
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"I don't think there's much difference in the time I've been here" I agree. I don't think this is anything new. There have always, well at least for as long as I've been using fab over the past 7 years or so, been some members that have such an attitude | |||
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"It's no worse on FAB than it is in wider society. Reap what you sow , I say. All the molly coddling of those who still sit with open beaks in adulthood and fear of litigation along with the onus on any public body or employer to have a care of duty and it becoming easier to pander to people aided by expensive insurances , than to fight them. The way to get what you want in society now is to ask for it. If it's not forth coming think of something you can post on social media in a whinging kind of way and watch your sympathy pour in and all the fingers point at those that work for what they have and wouldn't just GIVE it away." So you think that it’s a wider sickness in society? What would combat it? | |||
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"You mean I'm not!? You’re entitled to cakes, as is every forum poster. Sadly it’s urinal cakes Oh... " Soz | |||
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"Is there a growing problem on fab that people feel increasingly entitled? I’ve spotted quite a few threads, comments and attitudes that point towards people thinking that they’re owed attention, interactions or sex, just by virtue of having a profile. This in itself isn’t a new thing but the frequency and volume seems to be growing. Do you feel that it’s an issue? Do you believe that you’re owed something or deserve something, by virtue of who you are or how you are? Is it justified? Am I asking too many questions and need to post about fluffy bunnies? Thoughts folks… I think it's probably become worse due to all the effects of lockdowns and the restriction of our freedoms." There is that possibility, it’s affected us all in weird ways | |||
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"It's no worse on FAB than it is in wider society. Reap what you sow , I say. All the molly coddling of those who still sit with open beaks in adulthood and fear of litigation along with the onus on any public body or employer to have a care of duty and it becoming easier to pander to people aided by expensive insurances , than to fight them. The way to get what you want in society now is to ask for it. If it's not forth coming think of something you can post on social media in a whinging kind of way and watch your sympathy pour in and all the fingers point at those that work for what they have and wouldn't just GIVE it away." | |||
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"Yeah stick to fluffy bunnies mate " Bunnies aren’t as cute as everyone supposes… What’s with all the carrots, what do they need such good eyesight for anyway? | |||
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"It's no worse on FAB than it is in wider society. Reap what you sow , I say. All the molly coddling of those who still sit with open beaks in adulthood and fear of litigation along with the onus on any public body or employer to have a care of duty and it becoming easier to pander to people aided by expensive insurances , than to fight them. The way to get what you want in society now is to ask for it. If it's not forth coming think of something you can post on social media in a whinging kind of way and watch your sympathy pour in and all the fingers point at those that work for what they have and wouldn't just GIVE it away. So you think that it’s a wider sickness in society? What would combat it? " No meaning fucking no. Not parents giving in after 285 "no" and changing it to yes. Companies not bowing down to complainers and actually saying "tough shit cupcake, your business isn't welcome with that stinker of an attitude" | |||
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"But if people want to think they are entitled then leave them to it...im sure people will decide for themselves if they want to engage with "entitled " people?" You don’t see an issue with people demanding things of others? What if it’s in person? | |||
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"Yeah stick to fluffy bunnies mate Bunnies aren’t as cute as everyone supposes… What’s with all the carrots, what do they need such good eyesight for anyway?" Sounds like a line from a song..... | |||
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"But if people want to think they are entitled then leave them to it...im sure people will decide for themselves if they want to engage with "entitled " people? You don’t see an issue with people demanding things of others? What if it’s in person? " In person its different...this is a site and people act differently on the Internet...90% of whats posted in the forums would not be said in the real world | |||
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"I think some people join thinking sex is a guarantee, especially if they have paid a site supporters fee. They do get awfully put out when they find it isn't the case. The threads do seem more frequent than they were years ago I guess " Very much agree! | |||
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"in my opinion entitlement has become increasingly problematic over the last decade or so. The ease with which you can get answers, find information etc. leads to people no longer putting in any or much effort yet still “expecting” to get the same results as others. I am not sure that the FAB forums are truly representative of FAB or swingers as a whole, but there have been threads where a persons sense of entitlement shines through based on their words." Agreed. Also lack of consequences. | |||
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"It's no worse on FAB than it is in wider society. Reap what you sow , I say. All the molly coddling of those who still sit with open beaks in adulthood and fear of litigation along with the onus on any public body or employer to have a care of duty and it becoming easier to pander to people aided by expensive insurances , than to fight them. The way to get what you want in society now is to ask for it. If it's not forth coming think of something you can post on social media in a whinging kind of way and watch your sympathy pour in and all the fingers point at those that work for what they have and wouldn't just GIVE it away. So you think that it’s a wider sickness in society? What would combat it? " I don't know if it's a sickness. It's certainly a learned way of life. I'm sure I'd not be able to see it without the benefit of hindsight but to an extent we are all responsible for this zeitgeist..... modes of thought are created by the masses , us included. People are taught now that they are entitled to have what ever they want. Everyone is beautiful, everybody is beautiful, a pauper can be a king, anyone can write a book , anyone can act / sing / paint ........ anyone can go abroad , anyone can go into space... and if you can't afford it well everyone else will pay ..... that's democracy ( except it isn't ) and that's the modern state for you. And why not ... expectation keeps the capitalist wheels oiled and crushing you softly while you grow fat and complacent. | |||
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"Oh god, it goes much further beyond fab. Large parts of society all act entitled and selfish in one way or another, feel they are worth and owed more than others, or have the "right" to say and do certain things. Entitled to do whatever they can squeeze out. I don't think any single person is fully exempt from, not on all levels of it anyway. You run in to it almost everyday when there is interaction with other people. It has become much more common than it used to be, but it is still a natural human trait. Society has now allowed it to become a standard trait, prevalent in some much much more than others. The internet just allows such behaviour to be seen more because it is global, and not the smaller pool of people in local community. " Oh yes definitely. I was about to say something similar but no need to now! | |||
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"It's no worse on FAB than it is in wider society. Reap what you sow , I say. All the molly coddling of those who still sit with open beaks in adulthood and fear of litigation along with the onus on any public body or employer to have a care of duty and it becoming easier to pander to people aided by expensive insurances , than to fight them. The way to get what you want in society now is to ask for it. If it's not forth coming think of something you can post on social media in a whinging kind of way and watch your sympathy pour in and all the fingers point at those that work for what they have and wouldn't just GIVE it away. So you think that it’s a wider sickness in society? What would combat it? I don't know if it's a sickness. It's certainly a learned way of life. I'm sure I'd not be able to see it without the benefit of hindsight but to an extent we are all responsible for this zeitgeist..... modes of thought are created by the masses , us included. People are taught now that they are entitled to have what ever they want. Everyone is beautiful, everybody is beautiful, a pauper can be a king, anyone can write a book , anyone can act / sing / paint ........ anyone can go abroad , anyone can go into space... and if you can't afford it well everyone else will pay ..... that's democracy ( except it isn't ) and that's the modern state for you. And why not ... expectation keeps the capitalist wheels oiled and crushing you softly while you grow fat and complacent. " Couldn't have phrased it better. You're on a roll this morning! | |||
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"Before I log off and re commence cleaning again ........ It's mostly the under 40's .... Trust me. " Definitely | |||
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"But if people want to think they are entitled then leave them to it...im sure people will decide for themselves if they want to engage with "entitled " people? You don’t see an issue with people demanding things of others? What if it’s in person? In person its different...this is a site and people act differently on the Internet...90% of whats posted in the forums would not be said in the real world " But it’s still thought and written… | |||
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"But if people want to think they are entitled then leave them to it...im sure people will decide for themselves if they want to engage with "entitled " people? You don’t see an issue with people demanding things of others? What if it’s in person? In person its different...this is a site and people act differently on the Internet...90% of whats posted in the forums would not be said in the real world But it’s still thought and written…" I'd say far more in the real world. I can't get banned out there | |||
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"Before I log off and re commence cleaning again ........ It's mostly the under 40's .... Trust me. Definitely " Debatable, I've run in to some truely horribly entitled "older" people that younger generations could never even hope to live up to their level of entitlement in a million years. I agree though that you are very more likely to see it in a younger person. Largely because we are all brought up within the examples and boundaries that have been set to us by an older generation. Entitlement did not start with X generation or those of X age, it did manifest stronger than previous. The previous generation will always set the tracks for what comes next and holds part of the responsibility for the outcome. | |||
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"I’m am not owed nor do I expect any form of validation/attention on here this is a site where thousands of supposed sexually liberated people should be able to display what they like on there profiles, no one is ever going to be everyone’s cup of tea. These threads in relation to leagues/popularity etc make me cringe, we’re not in high school - if you think you deserve special treatment you probably came to the wrong place to find it. If you are comfortable in yourself and put yourself across in a fun and friendly way the likelihood is you will may make more connections it’s no different to how it should be in real life you just have a few more bits on show in the process. Embrace what it should be about and don’t get hung up on comparing yourself to others or taking the opinions of others to seriously, and try not to be a knob " | |||
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"But if people want to think they are entitled then leave them to it...im sure people will decide for themselves if they want to engage with "entitled " people? You don’t see an issue with people demanding things of others? What if it’s in person? In person its different...this is a site and people act differently on the Internet...90% of whats posted in the forums would not be said in the real world But it’s still thought and written… I'd say far more in the real world. I can't get banned out there" | |||
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"Before I log off and re commence cleaning again ........ It's mostly the under 40's .... Trust me. Definitely Debatable, I've run in to some truely horribly entitled "older" people that younger generations could never even hope to live up to their level of entitlement in a million years. I agree though that you are very more likely to see it in a younger person. Largely because we are all brought up within the examples and boundaries that have been set to us by an older generation. Entitlement did not start with X generation or those of X age, it did manifest stronger than previous. The previous generation will always set the tracks for what comes next and holds part of the responsibility for the outcome." Oh agreed. I know some horrible old shites. A mean shite is a mean shite regardless of age. I was speaking about societal changes, not entitlement in individuals. You can't blame an older generation for imbuing you with certain ideals. You still don't wash behind your ears and save up for a rainy day ! | |||
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"Is there a growing problem on fab that people feel increasingly entitled? I’ve spotted quite a few threads, comments and attitudes that point towards people thinking that they’re owed attention, interactions or sex, just by virtue of having a profile. This in itself isn’t a new thing but the frequency and volume seems to be growing. Do you feel that it’s an issue? Do you believe that you’re owed something or deserve something, by virtue of who you are or how you are? Is it justified? Am I asking too many questions and need to post about fluffy bunnies? Thoughts folks…" Ive noticed with recent messages a huge amount of self entitlement, so many are argumentative when i say im not meeting atm For me i think im too layed back to be 'self entitled' | |||
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"Before I log off and re commence cleaning again ........ It's mostly the under 40's .... Trust me. Definitely Debatable, I've run in to some truely horribly entitled "older" people that younger generations could never even hope to live up to their level of entitlement in a million years. I agree though that you are very more likely to see it in a younger person. Largely because we are all brought up within the examples and boundaries that have been set to us by an older generation. Entitlement did not start with X generation or those of X age, it did manifest stronger than previous. The previous generation will always set the tracks for what comes next and holds part of the responsibility for the outcome." Worth remembering the world wide web and common internet use was recent as in from the early 1990's. We can't blame the 'older codgers' for misleading the youthful pioneers in the etiquette on social media platforms | |||
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"Before I log off and re commence cleaning again ........ It's mostly the under 40's .... Trust me. Definitely Debatable, I've run in to some truely horribly entitled "older" people that younger generations could never even hope to live up to their level of entitlement in a million years. I agree though that you are very more likely to see it in a younger person. Largely because we are all brought up within the examples and boundaries that have been set to us by an older generation. Entitlement did not start with X generation or those of X age, it did manifest stronger than previous. The previous generation will always set the tracks for what comes next and holds part of the responsibility for the outcome. Worth remembering the world wide web and common internet use was recent as in from the early 1990's. We can't blame the 'older codgers' for misleading the youthful pioneers in the etiquette on social media platforms " Boom ! If it was just 'old codgers' that influenced everyone you'd all be down on the allotment rolling your own whilst not having any baccy..... | |||
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"Before I log off and re commence cleaning again ........ It's mostly the under 40's .... Trust me. Definitely Debatable, I've run in to some truely horribly entitled "older" people that younger generations could never even hope to live up to their level of entitlement in a million years. I agree though that you are very more likely to see it in a younger person. Largely because we are all brought up within the examples and boundaries that have been set to us by an older generation. Entitlement did not start with X generation or those of X age, it did manifest stronger than previous. The previous generation will always set the tracks for what comes next and holds part of the responsibility for the outcome. Worth remembering the world wide web and common internet use was recent as in from the early 1990's. We can't blame the 'older codgers' for misleading the youthful pioneers in the etiquette on social media platforms " As I said further up, the Internet is just an extension of the world, the attitudes would still have existed but the Internet makes it all the more obvious that more people do it. They just take their unchecked attitudes from the physical world on to the digital. They can now act entitled to the entire world instead of just to the local community. | |||
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"I don't think it has gotten any worse than it always has been. Some men feel like just joining here means they are entitled to a shag others think that because they are a woman they get to make others jump through hoops to just chat. Some couples seem to think they are entitled to meet who ever they want and get stroppy when told no. But it's always been that way well as long as I've been on here anyhow. And it is only some people are like this the majority are not I have found anyhow. And it's easy enough to pay no real heed to those who do feel entitled and go concentrate on people who you have something in common with and you want to get to know better.If people spent more time on their own journey on here and less time worrying about what others do it would probably be a lot more enjoyable for them. " Yes, alongside the entitlement, there's an awful lot of minding other people's business goes on. So many of the threads on here (and else where across the interwebs) are about people policing others. In itself it's a form of entitlement, "I insist everyone think and behave as I do..." | |||
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"Before I log off and re commence cleaning again ........ It's mostly the under 40's .... Trust me. Definitely Debatable, I've run in to some truely horribly entitled "older" people that younger generations could never even hope to live up to their level of entitlement in a million years. I agree though that you are very more likely to see it in a younger person. Largely because we are all brought up within the examples and boundaries that have been set to us by an older generation. Entitlement did not start with X generation or those of X age, it did manifest stronger than previous. The previous generation will always set the tracks for what comes next and holds part of the responsibility for the outcome. Worth remembering the world wide web and common internet use was recent as in from the early 1990's. We can't blame the 'older codgers' for misleading the youthful pioneers in the etiquette on social media platforms As I said further up, the Internet is just an extension of the world, the attitudes would still have existed but the Internet makes it all the more obvious that more people do it. They just take their unchecked attitudes from the physical world on to the digital. They can now act entitled to the entire world instead of just to the local community. " Yep! If some of the discussions that went on in offices I worked in in the 70s were on the net | |||
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"Before I log off and re commence cleaning again ........ It's mostly the under 40's .... Trust me. Definitely Debatable, I've run in to some truely horribly entitled "older" people that younger generations could never even hope to live up to their level of entitlement in a million years. I agree though that you are very more likely to see it in a younger person. Largely because we are all brought up within the examples and boundaries that have been set to us by an older generation. Entitlement did not start with X generation or those of X age, it did manifest stronger than previous. The previous generation will always set the tracks for what comes next and holds part of the responsibility for the outcome. Worth remembering the world wide web and common internet use was recent as in from the early 1990's. We can't blame the 'older codgers' for misleading the youthful pioneers in the etiquette on social media platforms As I said further up, the Internet is just an extension of the world, the attitudes would still have existed but the Internet makes it all the more obvious that more people do it. They just take their unchecked attitudes from the physical world on to the digital. They can now act entitled to the entire world instead of just to the local community. " The internet removes boundaries and for many a false view that accountability and respect needs to be considered. Social media is open to the world at large as you say and perhaps the lack of local community interaction could be part of the problem. As we get more freedoms we expect more and the sense of entitlement grows. | |||
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"I don't think it has gotten any worse than it always has been. Some men feel like just joining here means they are entitled to a shag others think that because they are a woman they get to make others jump through hoops to just chat. Some couples seem to think they are entitled to meet who ever they want and get stroppy when told no. But it's always been that way well as long as I've been on here anyhow. And it is only some people are like this the majority are not I have found anyhow. And it's easy enough to pay no real heed to those who do feel entitled and go concentrate on people who you have something in common with and you want to get to know better.If people spent more time on their own journey on here and less time worrying about what others do it would probably be a lot more enjoyable for them. Yes, alongside the entitlement, there's an awful lot of minding other people's business goes on. So many of the threads on here (and else where across the interwebs) are about people policing others. In itself it's a form of entitlement, "I insist everyone think and behave as I do..."" That’s one way of looking at it, although a touch extreme. Challenging negative behaviours and asking for respect, to be treated with empathy or as a human isn’t policing others. It’s strange that in these times, expecting others to behave with consideration is seen as a negative and drawing attention to potential areas of issue, is a bad thing | |||
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"That's a lot of questions Tea, I need more coffee to help. But to answer one of them, yes, there is a huge sense of entitlement on here from some. " I knew that I should have stuck with the bunnies | |||
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"I don't think it has gotten any worse than it always has been. Some men feel like just joining here means they are entitled to a shag others think that because they are a woman they get to make others jump through hoops to just chat. Some couples seem to think they are entitled to meet who ever they want and get stroppy when told no. But it's always been that way well as long as I've been on here anyhow. And it is only some people are like this the majority are not I have found anyhow. And it's easy enough to pay no real heed to those who do feel entitled and go concentrate on people who you have something in common with and you want to get to know better.If people spent more time on their own journey on here and less time worrying about what others do it would probably be a lot more enjoyable for them. Yes, alongside the entitlement, there's an awful lot of minding other people's business goes on. So many of the threads on here (and else where across the interwebs) are about people policing others. In itself it's a form of entitlement, "I insist everyone think and behave as I do..." That’s one way of looking at it, although a touch extreme. Challenging negative behaviours and asking for respect, to be treated with empathy or as a human isn’t policing others. It’s strange that in these times, expecting others to behave with consideration is seen as a negative and drawing attention to potential areas of issue, is a bad thing " Sorry OP, I had meant to add a line, that not necessarily in this particular thread. But a lot of these threads are not really about pulling people up on negative behaviour, but about pointing at people not complying to the norms the poster wishes them to adhere to. | |||
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"Yeah stick to fluffy bunnies mate Bunnies aren’t as cute as everyone supposes… What’s with all the carrots, what do they need such good eyesight for anyway?" Rabbits are super cute. I currently have 13 In my back garden | |||
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"I now feel entitled to fluffy bunnies. Where are my fluffy bunnies?! " Hehehe | |||
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"I'm entitled to my own opinion, thoughts and way I choose to live my life, and that is it. I am owed nothing by anyone except respect, I owe no body anything except respect" I’m a bit like this. Is it bad that I don’t really care what other people do, want and post? | |||
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"I think some people join thinking sex is a guarantee, especially if they have paid a site supporters fee. They do get awfully put out when they find it isn't the case. The threads do seem more frequent than they were years ago I guess " I knocked a fella back last year who wanted a same day meet that I hadn't advertised for and couldn't possibly manage even if I had wanted to meet up. He saw his arse, went on a six message rant and ended up getting blocked. I guess others must have done the same, as he's back with the same profile text, same pics and same messages, but a different user name and a recent joining date towards the start of this year. In spite of my profile text saying in the very first line that I'm not meeting at the moment and will update when I am able to again, he still gave it a go. I just deleted his requests for a meet the first few times (the old 'if you can't be bothered to read what I wrote, I can't be bothered to reply' philosophy), but every few days he has another crack. Now I just open his messages and leave them unanswered. Until I can meet again and take full advantage of the reason I'm on here, reading the rage in this fella's messages, knowing that I've read his borderline demands for a meet but have not even had the 'curtesy' to respond has honestly become the most entertaining thing for me on the site at the moment. Hearing him piss and moan about having a gold account and not paying to just be ignored is absolutely hilarious to me. | |||
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