FabSwingers.com forum: Fast metabolisms

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I find it pretty difficult putting weight on or bulking up, I struggle eating regularly as I rarely feel hungry, what ever I do eat I burn off faster than it’s probably taken me to eat. I do weights but with the lack of food it doesn’t do a right lot. I know meat and proteins are a good way to go about it however I physically can’t stomach meat, I’m not vegetarian I just don’t like the taste or smell of meat anymore. Anyone any suggestions that might work?

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By *rilogyMan
over a year ago

Eastbourne

Protein shakes and bars are good. Or could use steroids like The Rock lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Protein shakes and bars are good. Or could use steroids like The Rock lol"

I spent loads on shakes but because I wasn’t eating enough they didn’t do as much as they probably should’ve

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By *reya73Woman
over a year ago

Whitley Bay

Eating little but often. Plenty seeds and nuts.. Smoothies with oats and banana and fruit. Fish. Get plenty exercise which makes you hungry like big walks or a bit of running. Then go to the weights when you have steadied your metabolism

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Exercise is the easy bit, I walk everywhere when I can. My issue is trying to keep an appetite where I don’t look at food and can’t be bothered eating it

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Adding muscle obviously needs a suitable intake of protein. This can include the frequency of consumption, the quantity and the quantity of it. Obviously your overall nutritional intake must be optimised too.

Vegetable proteins are varied and meat is optional. Legumes have amongst them some great protein sources.

Overall it's important to have the right training and nutrition, as well as rest. Perhaps you could consult a personal trainer, as they'll help you to assess your resting baseline needs, based on your physiology as well as device a training and nutrition plan. Personal tastes can sway how you accomplish your goals, including food

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

I’m not currently doing so but have always found it easy to bulk up when needed , particularly in winter.

What works for me in training every other day 2-3 hours, really heavy no cardio , keep a log and you have to increase weight each session by resting and eating.

If you train hard enough the eating naturally follows. If you rest well and eat well progressive resistance is possible

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Exercise is the easy bit, I walk everywhere when I can. My issue is trying to keep an appetite where I don’t look at food and can’t be bothered eating it"

You need to cut down that walking! You need to rest. It’ doesn’t really matter how often and what you eat , if you train hard enough you will eat what your body needs to recover without thinking about it - stupid amounts of carbs & enough protein, or stupid amounts of protein and fat , either will work

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I find it pretty difficult putting weight on or bulking up, I struggle eating regularly as I rarely feel hungry, what ever I do eat I burn off faster than it’s probably taken me to eat. I do weights but with the lack of food it doesn’t do a right lot. I know meat and proteins are a good way to go about it however I physically can’t stomach meat, I’m not vegetarian I just don’t like the taste or smell of meat anymore. Anyone any suggestions that might work?"

What you need is a good diet plan where you’re eating regularly hitting your macros and being in a calorie surplus, if you struggle with eating high volumes of food, you could integrate more calorie dense foods when in that bulking phase. The most important thing when trying to gain some size is to be in a calorie surplus and increase weight/volume you are lifting each session (progressive overload)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Milk 4-5L off it had the same problem years ago found my body dose not burn though it as fast also works as sorce off protein green milk 3.3g off protein to 1.5g off fat per 100ml

2000 ml in a 2L that’s 2000 divided by 100 = 20 3.3 x 20 = 66g off protein per 2L and 30g off fat

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Stack milk with BCAAs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hi, I'm a PT and qualified nutrition advisor and the first thing I need to say is don't blame a "fast metabolism". You are purely not eating enough to outweigh what you are burning. 1lb of muscle needs 6cals to maintain, 1lb of fat needs 2cals. Combine a relatively well muscled physique with resistance training and excessive LISS activity like a lot of walking means you need to be eating well in excess of the GDA to gain. Get your protein up to around 1g/lb of BW and make the rest up with carbs and fats. Don't be scared of either as we need a good balance for energy and body function. Good quality and duration of sleep is important for appetite too. Also, don't be afraid of things getting a little ugly, bulking phases are never pretty but they are necessary for the most efficient muscle gain.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't get dragged in by supplements either. If you consume good protein sources like meat you'll be covering all your EAAs and BCAAs are purely a scam.

Creatine and Vitamin D are really the only two I'd have to recommend.

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

So the idea of fast and slow metabolisms has pretty much been debunked. It’s more about appetite

Meats and proteins are absolutely not the best way to go about it. Protein is extremely filling. In fact higher protein is recommended for people looking to lose weight because of its ability to keep you full.

You need carbs. Lots of carbs. Liquid carbs too. Milk is great. Cereal. Anything you enjoy and is easy to eat

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

"Don't get dragged in by supplements either. If you consume good protein sources like meat you'll be covering all your EAAs and BCAAs are purely a scam.

Creatine and Vitamin D are really the only two I'd have to recommend. "

Good advice , on sleep and nutrients, I take large dose of creatine in a shot of grape or berry juice 40mins before training when bulking. It’s the equivalent of the pre build rather than maintain dose but I only do for 6 weeks or so

The only things I’d add might be ZMA or Zinc, at night after heavily lifting and only if you don’t automatically fall into long sound sleeps after heavy lifting

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

So the idea of fast and slow metabolisms has pretty much been debunked. It’s more about appetite

You need carbs. Lots of carbs. Liquid carbs too. Milk is great. Cereal. Anything you enjoy and is easy to eat "

Exactly, and appetite comes from hard training, and hard training comes from good rest and sleep. I find I make gain faster when I reduce protein for exactly that reason , it forces me to eat more whole grain rice, pasta, vegetables, yoghurt , fruit etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have an incredibly fast metabolism, I never put on weight no matter what I eat, fast fast metabolism’s do exist that’s just science and you can’t argue with science.

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

"I have an incredibly fast metabolism, I never put on weight no matter what I eat, fast fast metabolism’s do exist that’s just science and you can’t argue with science. "

The science suggests they aren’t what people think. Differences between fast and slow range are so small it’s negotiable, not “i eat everything and still can’t gain” like many think.

Your issue is appetite. You think you eat a lot. You don’t.

Track everything you eat for a few weeks and you’ll be surprised. Then come try to eat what an actual big eater like me eats. I’ll eat your breakfast dinner and lunch as a snack

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have an incredibly fast metabolism, I never put on weight no matter what I eat, fast fast metabolism’s do exist that’s just science and you can’t argue with science.

The science suggests they aren’t what people think. Differences between fast and slow range are so small it’s negotiable, not “i eat everything and still can’t gain” like many think.

Your issue is appetite. You think you eat a lot. You don’t.

Track everything you eat for a few weeks and you’ll be surprised. Then come try to eat what an actual big eater like me eats. I’ll eat your breakfast dinner and lunch as a snack "

You’ve made a few assumptions there, how do you know what I eat ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have an incredibly fast metabolism, I never put on weight no matter what I eat, fast fast metabolism’s do exist that’s just science and you can’t argue with science.

The science suggests they aren’t what people think. Differences between fast and slow range are so small it’s negotiable, not “i eat everything and still can’t gain” like many think.

Your issue is appetite. You think you eat a lot. You don’t.

Track everything you eat for a few weeks and you’ll be surprised. Then come try to eat what an actual big eater like me eats. I’ll eat your breakfast dinner and lunch as a snack "

This!

People think they eat big. They "eat like a horse" then watch me do 1200 cals in my first meal post training and look dumbfounded. Followed by 4 more meals throughout the day. I'm not nearly where I want to be physique wise, but the biggest thing to learn. Is it learn how to really eat. Not whine when your full but to spoon the next meal in your face regardless of your feelings. It's not easy all the time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have an incredibly fast metabolism, I never put on weight no matter what I eat, fast fast metabolism’s do exist that’s just science and you can’t argue with science.

The science suggests they aren’t what people think. Differences between fast and slow range are so small it’s negotiable, not “i eat everything and still can’t gain” like many think.

Your issue is appetite. You think you eat a lot. You don’t.

Track everything you eat for a few weeks and you’ll be surprised. Then come try to eat what an actual big eater like me eats. I’ll eat your breakfast dinner and lunch as a snack

You’ve made a few assumptions there, how do you know what I eat ? "

An overactive thyroid gland can mean that weight gain is problematic

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

"I have an incredibly fast metabolism, I never put on weight no matter what I eat, fast fast metabolism’s do exist that’s just science and you can’t argue with science.

The science suggests they aren’t what people think. Differences between fast and slow range are so small it’s negotiable, not “i eat everything and still can’t gain” like many think.

Your issue is appetite. You think you eat a lot. You don’t.

Track everything you eat for a few weeks and you’ll be surprised. Then come try to eat what an actual big eater like me eats. I’ll eat your breakfast dinner and lunch as a snack

This!

I find the thing that happens is they eat big for a day and remember that.

Then they forgot that they were still full the next day so skipped breakfast.

Or how often they have a coffee instead of lunch.

Or how their massive portion of pasta is actually just a normal portion and they didn’t even finish it.

Appetite matters. Excuses don’t. It’s not fun eating to get big, but you gotta be honest with yourself and track what you do to see results, not blame it on MeTaBoLiSm

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have an incredibly fast metabolism, I never put on weight no matter what I eat, fast fast metabolism’s do exist that’s just science and you can’t argue with science.

The science suggests they aren’t what people think. Differences between fast and slow range are so small it’s negotiable, not “i eat everything and still can’t gain” like many think.

Your issue is appetite. You think you eat a lot. You don’t.

Track everything you eat for a few weeks and you’ll be surprised. Then come try to eat what an actual big eater like me eats. I’ll eat your breakfast dinner and lunch as a snack

You’ve made a few assumptions there, how do you know what I eat ?

An overactive thyroid gland can mean that weight gain is problematic "

I do have problems with my gland.

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

"I have an incredibly fast metabolism, I never put on weight no matter what I eat, fast fast metabolism’s do exist that’s just science and you can’t argue with science.

The science suggests they aren’t what people think. Differences between fast and slow range are so small it’s negotiable, not “i eat everything and still can’t gain” like many think.

Your issue is appetite. You think you eat a lot. You don’t.

Track everything you eat for a few weeks and you’ll be surprised. Then come try to eat what an actual big eater like me eats. I’ll eat your breakfast dinner and lunch as a snack

You’ve made a few assumptions there, how do you know what I eat ?

An overactive thyroid gland can mean that weight gain is problematic "

It’s off topic but yes a overactive thyroid can cause reductions in TDEE which if not managed can effect weight

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

"I have an incredibly fast metabolism, I never put on weight no matter what I eat, fast fast metabolism’s do exist that’s just science and you can’t argue with science.

The science suggests they aren’t what people think. Differences between fast and slow range are so small it’s negotiable, not “i eat everything and still can’t gain” like many think.

Your issue is appetite. You think you eat a lot. You don’t.

Track everything you eat for a few weeks and you’ll be surprised. Then come try to eat what an actual big eater like me eats. I’ll eat your breakfast dinner and lunch as a snack

You’ve made a few assumptions there, how do you know what I eat ? "

If you can’t gain Weight your not eating enough. That’s a true assumption

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have an incredibly fast metabolism, I never put on weight no matter what I eat, fast fast metabolism’s do exist that’s just science and you can’t argue with science.

The science suggests they aren’t what people think. Differences between fast and slow range are so small it’s negotiable, not “i eat everything and still can’t gain” like many think.

Your issue is appetite. You think you eat a lot. You don’t.

Track everything you eat for a few weeks and you’ll be surprised. Then come try to eat what an actual big eater like me eats. I’ll eat your breakfast dinner and lunch as a snack

This!

I find the thing that happens is they eat big for a day and remember that.

Then they forgot that they were still full the next day so skipped breakfast.

Or how often they have a coffee instead of lunch.

Or how their massive portion of pasta is actually just a normal portion and they didn’t even finish it.

Appetite matters. Excuses don’t. It’s not fun eating to get big, but you gotta be honest with yourself and track what you do to see results, not blame it on MeTaBoLiSm"

I agree completely. Each day starts fresh, meal 1 goes in regardless of your fullness from the day before and the rest follow. It does get easier as you get used to the volume. Then you push cals up and do it all over again. "Cheating" a bit with liquid calories will help with the bigger numbers but shouldn't really be necessary up to around 6k a day I'd say

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have an incredibly fast metabolism, I never put on weight no matter what I eat, fast fast metabolism’s do exist that’s just science and you can’t argue with science.

The science suggests they aren’t what people think. Differences between fast and slow range are so small it’s negotiable, not “i eat everything and still can’t gain” like many think.

Your issue is appetite. You think you eat a lot. You don’t.

Track everything you eat for a few weeks and you’ll be surprised. Then come try to eat what an actual big eater like me eats. I’ll eat your breakfast dinner and lunch as a snack

You’ve made a few assumptions there, how do you know what I eat ?

If you can’t gain Weight your not eating enough. That’s a true assumption"

Or I just have a fast metabolism like I said.

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

"I have an incredibly fast metabolism, I never put on weight no matter what I eat, fast fast metabolism’s do exist that’s just science and you can’t argue with science.

The science suggests they aren’t what people think. Differences between fast and slow range are so small it’s negotiable, not “i eat everything and still can’t gain” like many think.

Your issue is appetite. You think you eat a lot. You don’t.

Track everything you eat for a few weeks and you’ll be surprised. Then come try to eat what an actual big eater like me eats. I’ll eat your breakfast dinner and lunch as a snack

This!

I find the thing that happens is they eat big for a day and remember that.

Then they forgot that they were still full the next day so skipped breakfast.

Or how often they have a coffee instead of lunch.

Or how their massive portion of pasta is actually just a normal portion and they didn’t even finish it.

Appetite matters. Excuses don’t. It’s not fun eating to get big, but you gotta be honest with yourself and track what you do to see results, not blame it on MeTaBoLiSm

I can easily put away 6-7k but I’m very active and luckily I’ve got a great appetite.

But I remember when I started having to set timers to remind myself to eat. Wasn’t fun

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Eat vegetarian proteins like eggs, fish , cheese

Eat vegan proteins like seitan, tempeh, tofu, chickpeas, lentils , beans ...... all high in protein.

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

"I have an incredibly fast metabolism, I never put on weight no matter what I eat, fast fast metabolism’s do exist that’s just science and you can’t argue with science.

The science suggests they aren’t what people think. Differences between fast and slow range are so small it’s negotiable, not “i eat everything and still can’t gain” like many think.

Your issue is appetite. You think you eat a lot. You don’t.

Track everything you eat for a few weeks and you’ll be surprised. Then come try to eat what an actual big eater like me eats. I’ll eat your breakfast dinner and lunch as a snack

You’ve made a few assumptions there, how do you know what I eat ?

If you can’t gain Weight your not eating enough. That’s a true assumption

Or I just have a fast metabolism like I said. "

Either way, if your not gaining weight, you aren’t eating enough, slow or fast, so it’s a true assumption

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By *heekyweebissimWoman
over a year ago

fife,

Get to your doctor and check you don’t have thyroid problems and ask to speak with a nutritionist or dietician.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have an incredibly fast metabolism, I never put on weight no matter what I eat, fast fast metabolism’s do exist that’s just science and you can’t argue with science.

The science suggests they aren’t what people think. Differences between fast and slow range are so small it’s negotiable, not “i eat everything and still can’t gain” like many think.

Your issue is appetite. You think you eat a lot. You don’t.

Track everything you eat for a few weeks and you’ll be surprised. Then come try to eat what an actual big eater like me eats. I’ll eat your breakfast dinner and lunch as a snack

You’ve made a few assumptions there, how do you know what I eat ?

An overactive thyroid gland can mean that weight gain is problematic

I do have problems with my gland."

Yes, I had an overactive one and regardless of what/amount I ate was two stone plus underweight and it mostly effected my appetite ... perhaps the OP would be interested in starting here? Or exploring gut health and phenotyping? They're always looking for volunteers?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is full fat milk bad for you, if you drink too much will it give you high cholesterol etc ?

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By *partharmonyCouple
over a year ago

Ruislip

Go and see a professional nutritionist. You can get advice tailor-made for you and your goals. It did wonders for me. Luke

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Get to your doctor and check you don’t have thyroid problems and ask to speak with a nutritionist or dietician. "

Very much this ^^^ you could even ask your Dr for a referral to an NHS dietitian or see a nutritionist who can help with, diet, health, appetite, exercise and get the best start for yourself!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is full fat milk bad for you, if you drink too much will it give you high cholesterol etc ?"

Not bad it’s just not beneficial I staying away from this thread any way to much miss information that I would love to pick clean part

3.3g protein to 3.5g off fat

Fat content out wights the protein content sorce I sit with world class athletes every weekend and talk shop and I am talking top 1% in the world

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

"Is full fat milk bad for you, if you drink too much will it give you high cholesterol etc ?"

Used to be considered bad, now new studies are changing that opinion, but as far as I know we don’t have a clear cut answer on that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just remember that fat is not your enemy, you need it in your diet. It provides fast release energy and it important for a lot of organ functions.

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By *lasphemousGirlWoman
over a year ago

Cambs

I know you said you're not keen on meat but what about seafood and tofu? Excellent low fat protein sources, tofu really is delicious if marinated, smaller more frequent meals help to add weight, some of my friends that body build are eating 4000 calories a day to maintain bulk eating as many as 6 small proteins packed meals.

Each to their own but you have a great lean physic, bulking up just doesn't work for everyone as your natural shape definitely plays a part.

I'm on the opposite journey steadily loosing weight but nothing will make me a size 6, I'm naturally thicker set and curvy. Embrace what you have xxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Thanks for all the advice I genuinely wasn’t expecting so many in depth posts and there’s a lot to look into. I do eat seafood and use soy or quorn instead of meat in a lot of my meals.

I’ve had an issue with my appetite since high school and never been able to eat the standard three meals a day, I eat breakfast and I feel sick for most of the day, lockdown hasn’t helped as I found myself skipping meals or on bad low days I’ve ended up forgetting to eat all together

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

So I took the advice and ran with it, pushed myself into eating in a morning and trying to eat more regular meals, I can happily say I’m already putting weight back on (only a bit) and feeling better for it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Healthy fats too... Nuts + avocado's

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So I took the advice and ran with it, pushed myself into eating in a morning and trying to eat more regular meals, I can happily say I’m already putting weight back on (only a bit) and feeling better for it "

That's truly awesome and well done you for making such effort when it's a struggle! Glad you're feeling better for it

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Train harder and eat carbs not proteins, and rest and sleep better, protein diets are for losing weight not gaining it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Eating little but often. Plenty seeds and nuts.. Smoothies with oats and banana and fruit. Fish. Get plenty exercise which makes you hungry like big walks or a bit of running. Then go to the weights when you have steadied your metabolism "
very good advice . Used to be me . Cudn put any weight on . Ate small every 2 hrs . Small bits to start then progressed .

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

Yes! Great results dude nice to hear.

Little tip too, get a little blender and make some shakes. Full fat milk, peanut butter, maybe some berries, whatever you want. It’s very easy to make a nice cold 1000 calorie shake and just neck it before bed for the extra calories

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