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"I don't know what it is But if you're not interested and they're backing you into a corner for a response - then responding is just inviting more interactions you're not interested in having. So what is the point? Delete." What if it is was a forum user you got on well with? | |||
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"I don't know what it is But if you're not interested and they're backing you into a corner for a response - then responding is just inviting more interactions you're not interested in having. So what is the point? Delete. What if it is was a forum user you got on well with? " Then I think it's OK to say you're not interested in them that way. It's awkward - but really if they're asking for a reason why you're not interested then they should be prepared for the answer. I think if someone isn't getting a hint then you need to be direct to prevent further awkwardness. In a nice way | |||
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"I don't know what it is But if you're not interested and they're backing you into a corner for a response - then responding is just inviting more interactions you're not interested in having. So what is the point? Delete. What if it is was a forum user you got on well with? " Why would it being a forum user affect your response? A person you get on well with, but ignores or doesn’t appreciate your position doesn’t seem like the kind of person I would want in my life. | |||
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"I don't know what it is But if you're not interested and they're backing you into a corner for a response - then responding is just inviting more interactions you're not interested in having. So what is the point? Delete. What if it is was a forum user you got on well with? Then I think it's OK to say you're not interested in them that way. It's awkward - but really if they're asking for a reason why you're not interested then they should be prepared for the answer. I think if someone isn't getting a hint then you need to be direct to prevent further awkwardness. In a nice way " Can be very awkward indeed. Especially when text can be taken the wrong or come across more aggressive than intended. | |||
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"When someone makes a negative comment about themselves where they povide a reason for why you won't be interested in them. You're almost backed into a corner where you either have to reject them and state why or tell them in that moment that you are. Either way it's forcing an answer isn't it? Or trying to guilt you into fucking them? Of course, we don't even have to respond and could block or delete. But is it manipulation? " You don't have to reject them or correct them. You could just ignore their negativity, or tell them that it's all relative, or different folk like different things etc... | |||
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"When someone makes a negative comment about themselves where they povide a reason for why you won't be interested in them. You're almost backed into a corner where you either have to reject them and state why or tell them in that moment that you are. Either way it's forcing an answer isn't it? Or trying to guilt you into fucking them? Of course, we don't even have to respond and could block or delete. But is it manipulation? " Hahahahaha not sure if this is a hit on my thread 'Honesty', but well im not looking for sympathy sex, how gross wud that be sex n the other person doesnt really want to, thats weird thing to suggest. I mearly stated facts about myself that has made me decide to have no expectations anymore and to not send messages but to live on the Forum where so many have been so supportive n genuine in their adice n positiveness. Its been lovely to communicate at last. | |||
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"self depreciation is in the main, a self defence mechanism for those suffering a lack of self esteem or confidence. i doubt its manipulation - best advice as stated above, delete and move on. " That’s very true but for some it’s used as a tool or affectation. It’s very nuanced and it’s not to say that people who are suffering with low self esteem aren’t worthy of sympathy but the two aren’t mutually exclusive, someone with low self esteem can still be manipulating people and be deserving of empathy | |||
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"When someone makes a negative comment about themselves where they povide a reason for why you won't be interested in them. You're almost backed into a corner where you either have to reject them and state why or tell them in that moment that you are. Either way it's forcing an answer isn't it? Or trying to guilt you into fucking them? Of course, we don't even have to respond and could block or delete. But is it manipulation? Hahahahaha not sure if this is a hit on my thread 'Honesty', but well im not looking for sympathy sex, how gross wud that be sex n the other person doesnt really want to, thats weird thing to suggest. I mearly stated facts about myself that has made me decide to have no expectations anymore and to not send messages but to live on the Forum where so many have been so supportive n genuine in their adice n positiveness. Its been lovely to communicate at last. " I'm not sure I've even read your thread and I have I don't remember it. This wasn't in relation to any other thread at all. | |||
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"When someone makes a negative comment about themselves where they povide a reason for why you won't be interested in them. You're almost backed into a corner where you either have to reject them and state why or tell them in that moment that you are. Either way it's forcing an answer isn't it? Or trying to guilt you into fucking them? Of course, we don't even have to respond and could block or delete. But is it manipulation? Hahahahaha not sure if this is a hit on my thread 'Honesty', but well im not looking for sympathy sex, how gross wud that be sex n the other person doesnt really want to, thats weird thing to suggest. I mearly stated facts about myself that has made me decide to have no expectations anymore and to not send messages but to live on the Forum where so many have been so supportive n genuine in their adice n positiveness. Its been lovely to communicate at last. I'm not sure I've even read your thread and I have I don't remember it. This wasn't in relation to any other thread at all. " OK fair enough, it was a popular thread from this morning, no worries X | |||
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"When someone makes a negative comment about themselves where they povide a reason for why you won't be interested in them. You're almost backed into a corner where you either have to reject them and state why or tell them in that moment that you are. Either way it's forcing an answer isn't it? Or trying to guilt you into fucking them? Of course, we don't even have to respond and could block or delete. But is it manipulation? Hahahahaha not sure if this is a hit on my thread 'Honesty', but well im not looking for sympathy sex, how gross wud that be sex n the other person doesnt really want to, thats weird thing to suggest. I mearly stated facts about myself that has made me decide to have no expectations anymore and to not send messages but to live on the Forum where so many have been so supportive n genuine in their adice n positiveness. Its been lovely to communicate at last. I'm not sure I've even read your thread and I have I don't remember it. This wasn't in relation to any other thread at all. OK fair enough, it was a popular thread from this morning, no worries X" I've hardly been on today in fairness and not really been paying much attention when I have. Been busy doing life etc. Really wasn't aimed at anyone. It's all good. | |||
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"Potentially. If it’s done purposefully to elicit that reaction, then yes. Sympathy sex is a real thing and for some people, they don’t care how they get it. If the intent is to draw sympathy from you and to effectively gain from that, then its manipulation. My ex wife uses sympathy as a hold over people and used it as a way to manipulate me for years" I agree with this. It’s not nice of the other person to make you feel that way and put you in that position, it’s very awkward. If I was in your position I’d just block and delete. I’ve had it done to me a couple of times and it’s a horrible feeling when someone uses something to get sympathy. I think it is very manipulative. It’s horrible... | |||
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"When someone makes a negative comment about themselves where they povide a reason for why you won't be interested in them. You're almost backed into a corner where you either have to reject them and state why or tell them in that moment that you are. Either way it's forcing an answer isn't it? Or trying to guilt you into fucking them? Of course, we don't even have to respond and could block or delete. But is it manipulation? Hahahahaha not sure if this is a hit on my thread 'Honesty', but well im not looking for sympathy sex, how gross wud that be sex n the other person doesnt really want to, thats weird thing to suggest. I mearly stated facts about myself that has made me decide to have no expectations anymore and to not send messages but to live on the Forum where so many have been so supportive n genuine in their adice n positiveness. Its been lovely to communicate at last. I'm not sure I've even read your thread and I have I don't remember it. This wasn't in relation to any other thread at all. OK fair enough, it was a popular thread from this morning, no worries X I've hardly been on today in fairness and not really been paying much attention when I have. Been busy doing life etc. Really wasn't aimed at anyone. It's all good. " cool | |||
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"When someone makes a negative comment about themselves where they povide a reason for why you won't be interested in them. You're almost backed into a corner where you either have to reject them and state why or tell them in that moment that you are. Either way it's forcing an answer isn't it? Or trying to guilt you into fucking them? Of course, we don't even have to respond and could block or delete. But is it manipulation? " Some people just are not good with compliments | |||
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"What if it is was a forum user you got on well with? " Then he will see this thread and get the message if that's the case | |||
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"When someone makes a negative comment about themselves where they povide a reason for why you won't be interested in them. You're almost backed into a corner where you either have to reject them and state why or tell them in that moment that you are. Either way it's forcing an answer isn't it? Or trying to guilt you into fucking them? Of course, we don't even have to respond and could block or delete. But is it manipulation? Some people just are not good with compliments" I took it to mean they lead with the negative rather than responding to a compliment..... I've certainly seen an increase in messages that start with 'I know I'm not your type and you'd never meet me but....' | |||
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"I don't know what it is But if you're not interested and they're backing you into a corner for a response - then responding is just inviting more interactions you're not interested in having. So what is the point? Delete. What if it is was a forum user you got on well with? " It is and it’s horrible.. when you give a reason why not they come back with another reason and so on .. and yes its hard when its a formite but stand your ground.. x | |||
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"I'm not sure if it's manipulation, it does feel that way sometimes. Either way, a message like that just comes off as a 'woe is me' pity party thing and that absolutely puts me off so I'd simply delete and move on. I understand people feel that way, I also have self esteem issues, but I wouldn't dream of putting them on to someone else, whether to get sympathy sex or just to fish for compliments. " | |||
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"I don't like them because I do have a bleeding heart and feel guilty for saying no. I'm not sure if it's manipulation as such, perhaps they do genuinely feel that way. I just know it makes me feel awful and then puts me in an awkward position of having to try and gently say no." I feel the same. And saying no to someone you'd happily be friends with is harder. Obviously saying no may mean they don't want to talk anymore and not be a friend as they proved they were only after one thing. But it's still crap. | |||
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"I don't know what it is But if you're not interested and they're backing you into a corner for a response - then responding is just inviting more interactions you're not interested in having. So what is the point? Delete. What if it is was a forum user you got on well with? It is and it’s horrible.. when you give a reason why not they come back with another reason and so on .. and yes its hard when its a formite but stand your ground.. x" Er you said you would keep this on the downlow... this is not the downlow..... hahaha | |||
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"When someone makes a negative comment about themselves where they povide a reason for why you won't be interested in them. You're almost backed into a corner where you either have to reject them and state why or tell them in that moment that you are. Either way it's forcing an answer isn't it? Or trying to guilt you into fucking them? Of course, we don't even have to respond and could block or delete. But is it manipulation? " Yes. But don’t believe me, I’m far too simple and unloveable to have an opinion. | |||
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"I don't know what it is But if you're not interested and they're backing you into a corner for a response - then responding is just inviting more interactions you're not interested in having. So what is the point? Delete. What if it is was a forum user you got on well with? It is and it’s horrible.. when you give a reason why not they come back with another reason and so on .. and yes its hard when its a formite but stand your ground.. x Er you said you would keep this on the downlow... this is not the downlow..... hahaha" With the compliments you give al stick with you | |||
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"IT is what IT is and if you don't know yourself then I doubt any of these randy folk will be able to tell you. However, what YOU make of it or the impact it has on YOU depends on how YOU react. If in doubt I'd ignore and see if it repeats and then maybe you'll have your answer? " In that case I'll be the ruthless me and block | |||
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"self depreciation is in the main, a self defence mechanism for those suffering a lack of self esteem or confidence. i doubt its manipulation - best advice as stated above, delete and move on. " +2 I sometimes fall into that trap by stating I'm probably not what someone is looking for. It isn't intentional and I'll never accept a pity fuck, just sometimes low self esteem overrides any confidence you have. | |||
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"I don't know what it is But if you're not interested and they're backing you into a corner for a response - then responding is just inviting more interactions you're not interested in having. So what is the point? Delete. What if it is was a forum user you got on well with? It is and it’s horrible.. when you give a reason why not they come back with another reason and so on .. and yes its hard when its a formite but stand your ground.. x Er you said you would keep this on the downlow... this is not the downlow..... hahaha With the compliments you give al stick with you " You dont like my compliments? :’-( | |||
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"Potentially. If it’s done purposefully to elicit that reaction, then yes. Sympathy sex is a real thing and for some people, they don’t care how they get it. If the intent is to draw sympathy from you and to effectively gain from that, then its manipulation. My ex wife uses sympathy as a hold over people and used it as a way to manipulate me for years" Very well said!!!! | |||
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"I think so, it’s a way of easing you into something that’s awkward, by soften you up first by being passively defensive, they are defending themselves from getting hurt, if you say no you’re not interested, they’re not the ones being rude, they have set you up to feel under pressure to answer the next question politely, because you’ve already partially agreed to it. " They're the ones being rude though and if they're going to make you feel like you need to give a answer, it's up to them to take whatever the answer is and just accept than as what that one person thinks in their own mind. Doesn't make it factual as it's a personal statement and that is all. If you ask a question and you know that the answer might hurt, you really got to ask yourself, do you really need to know that much | |||
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"When someone makes a negative comment about themselves where they povide a reason for why you won't be interested in them. You're almost backed into a corner where you either have to reject them and state why or tell them in that moment that you are. Either way it's forcing an answer isn't it? Or trying to guilt you into fucking them? Of course, we don't even have to respond and could block or delete. But is it manipulation? " So if I said...you won't have sex with me because im fat.... You wouldn't have sex with me to make me feel better would you? Or would you? Joking x | |||
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"I think so, it’s a way of easing you into something that’s awkward, by soften you up first by being passively defensive, they are defending themselves from getting hurt, if you say no you’re not interested, they’re not the ones being rude, they have set you up to feel under pressure to answer the next question politely, because you’ve already partially agreed to it. They're the ones being rude though and if they're going to make you feel like you need to give a answer, it's up to them to take whatever the answer is and just accept than as what that one person thinks in their own mind. Doesn't make it factual as it's a personal statement and that is all. If you ask a question and you know that the answer might hurt, you really got to ask yourself, do you really need to know that much " I know that, I was showing the thinking behind it and why some men do it, didn’t think I’d need to explain that. | |||
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"I think so, it’s a way of easing you into something that’s awkward, by soften you up first by being passively defensive, they are defending themselves from getting hurt, if you say no you’re not interested, they’re not the ones being rude, they have set you up to feel under pressure to answer the next question politely, because you’ve already partially agreed to it. They're the ones being rude though and if they're going to make you feel like you need to give a answer, it's up to them to take whatever the answer is and just accept than as what that one person thinks in their own mind. Doesn't make it factual as it's a personal statement and that is all. If you ask a question and you know that the answer might hurt, you really got to ask yourself, do you really need to know that much I know that, I was showing the thinking behind it and why some men do it, didn’t think I’d need to explain that. " I know so I don't know why you just did either | |||
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"When someone makes a negative comment about themselves where they povide a reason for why you won't be interested in them. You're almost backed into a corner where you either have to reject them and state why or tell them in that moment that you are. Either way it's forcing an answer isn't it? Or trying to guilt you into fucking them? Of course, we don't even have to respond and could block or delete. But is it manipulation? " Not if you agree with them. It’ll soon stop that strategy. | |||
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"I think so, it’s a way of easing you into something that’s awkward, by soften you up first by being passively defensive, they are defending themselves from getting hurt, if you say no you’re not interested, they’re not the ones being rude, they have set you up to feel under pressure to answer the next question politely, because you’ve already partially agreed to it. They're the ones being rude though and if they're going to make you feel like you need to give a answer, it's up to them to take whatever the answer is and just accept than as what that one person thinks in their own mind. Doesn't make it factual as it's a personal statement and that is all. If you ask a question and you know that the answer might hurt, you really got to ask yourself, do you really need to know that much I know that, I was showing the thinking behind it and why some men do it, didn’t think I’d need to explain that. I know so I don't know why you just did either " Because you missed my point entirely. | |||
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"I think so, it’s a way of easing you into something that’s awkward, by soften you up first by being passively defensive, they are defending themselves from getting hurt, if you say no you’re not interested, they’re not the ones being rude, they have set you up to feel under pressure to answer the next question politely, because you’ve already partially agreed to it. They're the ones being rude though and if they're going to make you feel like you need to give a answer, it's up to them to take whatever the answer is and just accept than as what that one person thinks in their own mind. Doesn't make it factual as it's a personal statement and that is all. If you ask a question and you know that the answer might hurt, you really got to ask yourself, do you really need to know that much I know that, I was showing the thinking behind it and why some men do it, didn’t think I’d need to explain that. I know so I don't know why you just did either Because you missed my point entirely. " No I didn't, I gave my take and wording on it. Just like you done yourself | |||
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"I don't know what it is But if you're not interested and they're backing you into a corner for a response - then responding is just inviting more interactions you're not interested in having. So what is the point? Delete. What if it is was a forum user you got on well with? It is and it’s horrible.. when you give a reason why not they come back with another reason and so on .. and yes its hard when its a formite but stand your ground.. x Er you said you would keep this on the downlow... this is not the downlow..... hahaha With the compliments you give al stick with you You dont like my compliments? :’-( " Because you said i looked like a lego man with melons on my chest | |||
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"I don't know what it is But if you're not interested and they're backing you into a corner for a response - then responding is just inviting more interactions you're not interested in having. So what is the point? Delete. What if it is was a forum user you got on well with? It is and it’s horrible.. when you give a reason why not they come back with another reason and so on .. and yes its hard when its a formite but stand your ground.. x Er you said you would keep this on the downlow... this is not the downlow..... hahaha With the compliments you give al stick with you You dont like my compliments? :’-( Because you said i looked like a lego man with melons on my chest " That's a solid 10 for good use of imagination though | |||
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"I think so, it’s a way of easing you into something that’s awkward, by soften you up first by being passively defensive, they are defending themselves from getting hurt, if you say no you’re not interested, they’re not the ones being rude, they have set you up to feel under pressure to answer the next question politely, because you’ve already partially agreed to it. " It's like the 'can I ask you a question?' message isn't it. It's design to gain a reply and make the recipient feel like they're they are the rude one if they don't answer. | |||
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"I think so, it’s a way of easing you into something that’s awkward, by soften you up first by being passively defensive, they are defending themselves from getting hurt, if you say no you’re not interested, they’re not the ones being rude, they have set you up to feel under pressure to answer the next question politely, because you’ve already partially agreed to it. It's like the 'can I ask you a question?' message isn't it. It's design to gain a reply and make the recipient feel like they're they are the rude one if they don't answer. " It does state though on site faqs that no reply is a no thank you | |||
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"When someone makes a negative comment about themselves where they povide a reason for why you won't be interested in them. You're almost backed into a corner where you either have to reject them and state why or tell them in that moment that you are. Either way it's forcing an answer isn't it? Or trying to guilt you into fucking them? Of course, we don't even have to respond and could block or delete. But is it manipulation? " From what you've described, that person is trying to elicit (guilt) a response from you. If you don't like the way they are doing that, you've every right not to respond. I get the "you won't reply to this" messages, and they're right, I won't. I refuse to be told what to do and how to behave. If it makes you feel uneasy, trust your gut and avoid the conversation. | |||
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"If it is a forum user i dont think you should be talking about him like this. He will obviously know your talking about him" I get lots of these messages when I lift my filters on my single profile. It's a general post about them all, I just asked if it was a forumite would it be different. Or more awkward. I think it is. | |||
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"I'm just curious as the responses and views of others. I think we've all at some point had messages that say something along the lines of.... I know you'd not even consider me, I'm not good looking enough for you, I'm out of your league... Etc followed by something that wants a response to if you would or wouldn't. I personally find them horrible messages. I wouldn't go round messaging people saying I wasn't in to them and why so why should someone try and force it. To me it seems like manipulation in some instances. To me it seems like they want you to feel bad or sorry for them. Just my view. But I hate those kind of messages. " just sounds like self deprecating while chancing their arm to me , but honestly for me the message would go completely unanswered - i dont want to be drawn into awkward conversations that i dont need to have so i just wouldnt reply | |||
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