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It doesn't matter how beautiful you are, if you have a beautiful new dress and fight over it with another beautiful person, you're gonna rip the dress and break some nails, right? 
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"Amen sir! "Awww tanks fella, I was expecting more of a tidal wave of anger and abuse and to be told I know nothing of the world | |||
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"Bit confused by the OP though it's Friday and I may be dim. Are we talking in general like feminism or something or like people who have had an experience for example child neglect and tries to explain to those who haven't suffered how they dealt with it? " Equality has no boundaries my lovely, right?  | |||
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"Bit confused by the OP though it's Friday and I may be dim. Are we talking in general like feminism or something or like people who have had an experience for example child neglect and tries to explain to those who haven't suffered how they dealt with it? Equality has no boundaries my lovely, right? "Yes else it's all a bit animal farm surely? | |||
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"But we are all unique.
Exactly, all of us! "But especially me. I’m specialer | |||
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"Bit confused by the OP though it's Friday and I may be dim. Are we talking in general like feminism or something or like people who have had an experience for example child neglect and tries to explain to those who haven't suffered how they dealt with it? Equality has no boundaries my lovely, right?
Yes else it's all a bit animal farm surely? "What's wrong with animal farm? | |||
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"But we are all unique.
Exactly, all of us!
But especially me. I’m specialer "You're like the boss of equality! | |||
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"But we are all unique.
Exactly, all of us!
But especially me. I’m specialer "Amen m’lady!  | |||
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"But we are all unique.
Exactly, all of us!
But especially me. I’m specialer
You're like the boss of equality! "Not in this house. The kids rule  | |||
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"But we are all unique.
Exactly, all of us!
But especially me. I’m specialer
You're like the boss of equality!
Not in this house. The kids rule "I sit marginally below the dog in mine . Dad's have real feelings!  | |||
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"Bit confused by the OP though it's Friday and I may be dim. Are we talking in general like feminism or something or like people who have had an experience for example child neglect and tries to explain to those who haven't suffered how they dealt with it? Equality has no boundaries my lovely, right?
Yes else it's all a bit animal farm surely?
What's wrong with animal farm?""Four legs good, two legs better! All Animals Are Equal. But Some Animals Are More Equal Than Others" | |||
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"I genuinely used to think I was quite clever but recently these forums have me baffled more and more "Free laptop for you! | |||
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"Is this an All Lives Matter post? I've not had my afternoon cup of tea yet. "Nooooo! | |||
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"Bit confused by the OP though it's Friday and I may be dim. Are we talking in general like feminism or something or like people who have had an experience for example child neglect and tries to explain to those who haven't suffered how they dealt with it? Equality has no boundaries my lovely, right?
Yes else it's all a bit animal farm surely?
What's wrong with animal farm?
"Four legs good, two legs better! All Animals Are Equal. But Some Animals Are More Equal Than Others""So you're against amputees then? Most humans have two unless they have a really long dragging penis  | |||
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"Bit confused by the OP though it's Friday and I may be dim. Are we talking in general like feminism or something or like people who have had an experience for example child neglect and tries to explain to those who haven't suffered how they dealt with it? Equality has no boundaries my lovely, right?
Yes else it's all a bit animal farm surely?
What's wrong with animal farm?
"Four legs good, two legs better! All Animals Are Equal. But Some Animals Are More Equal Than Others"
So you're against amputees then? Most humans have two unless they have a really long dragging penis "For crying out loud you! That's not an image I wanted in my head | |||
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"Ok rascal. Here’s what I think. Everyone and I mean everyone should be equal with regards to respect, opportunities etc etc. Should the woman who can’t be arsed to go to work and has 15 kids be able to have the same things I have because I work often 7 days a week and could only afford 2 kids ( with an 11 year age gap because I wasn’t in a position financially to bring another into the world earlier) ? Then no I think not. Depends what you mean by this thread really x" Clue was in the random thoughts title. I have absolutely no idea! But I don't think many other people know much better | |||
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"Ok rascal. Here’s what I think. Everyone and I mean everyone should be equal with regards to respect, opportunities etc etc. Should the woman who can’t be arsed to go to work and has 15 kids be able to have the same things I have because I work often 7 days a week and could only afford 2 kids ( with an 11 year age gap because I wasn’t in a position financially to bring another into the world earlier) ? Then no I think not. Depends what you mean by this thread really x Clue was in the random thoughts title. I have absolutely no idea! But I don't think many other people know much better "I think so too .
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"We will never all be equal. The system is designed purposefully to keep us exactly unequal. We may be gradually trying to remove prejudice over race, colour, religion, sex, sexuality etc but wealth will always divide. What was the question again? I should really quote your essays. " Do you want equal? What makes you so sure we'll never have it? Who's in charge of this system? Xx | |||
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"I genuinely used to think I was quite clever but recently these forums have me baffled more and more
Free laptop for you! "Oh good. Now I have 3 | |||
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"Also..... Do we want equality or equity?! " I think most folk seem to currently "feel" they have negative equality | |||
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"Also..... Do we want equality or equity?! I think most folk seem to currently "feel" they have negative equality " | |||
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"Ok rascal. Here’s what I think. Everyone and I mean everyone should be equal with regards to respect, opportunities etc etc. Should the woman who can’t be arsed to go to work and has 15 kids be able to have the same things I have because I work often 7 days a week and could only afford 2 kids ( with an 11 year age gap because I wasn’t in a position financially to bring another into the world earlier) ? Then no I think not. Depends what you mean by this thread really x Clue was in the random thoughts title. I have absolutely no idea! But I don't think many other people know much better
I think so too .
PS I missed your random thoughts "Stoppittttttt, I'll get a big penis again | |||
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"It depends on what kind of equality we're talking about...not all equality is equal " Expand on that please? x | |||
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"Is this an All Lives Matter post? I've not had my afternoon cup of tea yet.
Nooooo! "Ha! I'm clarifying before I try and understand your stream of consciousness. Make your opinions more reader friendly please. | |||
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"Equality in what aspect? Fighting over a dress is marginally different to fighting over how you are treated by the police and governments etc." But why fight? The dress could be out relationship, our street, our community, our NHS, our love? Just gets worse if you fight and someone comes off the loser - maybe this is the system the box of frogs lady was referring to earlier, the way we fight for what WE need, rather than discuss and compromise on what's best for ALL overall *shrugs* | |||
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"Is this an All Lives Matter post? I've not had my afternoon cup of tea yet.
Nooooo!
Ha! I'm clarifying before I try and understand your stream of consciousness. Make your opinions more reader friendly please. "Noooooo! | |||
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"We will never all be equal. The system is designed purposefully to keep us exactly unequal. We may be gradually trying to remove prejudice over race, colour, religion, sex, sexuality etc but wealth will always divide. What was the question again? I should really quote your essays. " Do you think we actually ARE all equal my lovely? Or just that we should be treated so. I think Stephen Hawkin is better than me at astro physicsie type stuff and I'd hate for my books on astro physics to get published because people would be getting all lost in the night sky and there would be warnings that planets might start bumping into each other or falling towards earth
I feel the same about some other "experts" who get published, or publish themselves | |||
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"Equality of opportunity not equality of outcome A merit based society " What about the people who have low ability or merit? It could become a little "'ist"? | |||
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"Equality of opportunity not equality of outcome A merit based society What about the people who have low ability or merit? It could become a little "'ist"?" That’s life | |||
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"Equality of opportunity not equality of outcome A merit based society What about the people who have low ability or merit? It could become a little "'ist"? That’s life " Life finds a way. Life is chaotic, equality is perfection. Life does not allow perfection to last. | |||
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"Equality as a way of life is a natural impossibility. Survial of the fittest and natural instinct, even seemingly dormant instinct will take over. Equality in terms of respect, is more likely. However free will can't be overcome. To actually create true equality you would have to oppress large groups of people. Which in and of itself would not create equality because there would always be an oppressor to oversee it. There will always be those that seek to take that mantle. Equality of opportunity is the closest thing we can come to achieving it. And even that is not fully. There will always be factors and situations that will exclude somebody or groups of people - jobs for example, despite opening it to everyone, not everyone can do that job and by giving them said job would be a liability. " Why do people keep saying this lol? It's like saying father Christmas is real - it's not an evidence based approach and it's a little sad that so many have given up on equality and yet they are so vocal on equality. Like it's some kind of unattainable goal, like we're all sinners and nothing good can come of this life. I strongly believe you can create anything you like if you want to, it just might take a little convincing of others in this case because too many have spread the messagea if doom with little knowledge. Why not look up and look forward rather than down and backward.... ....celebrate, rather than point thw finger and demonise? | |||
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"Equality of opportunity not equality of outcome A merit based society What about the people who have low ability or merit? It could become a little "'ist"? That’s life Life finds a way. Life is chaotic, equality is perfection. Life does not allow perfection to last." Poetic but a little babbly and untrue | |||
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"Equality of opportunity not equality of outcome A merit based society What about the people who have low ability or merit? It could become a little "'ist"? That’s life " So is equality is just something we talk about to impress others then and it doesn't really matter? | |||
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"Equality of opportunity not equality of outcome A merit based society What about the people who have low ability or merit? It could become a little "'ist"? That’s life So is equality is just something we talk about to impress others then and it doesn't really matter?" - 2nd is* | |||
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"Equality of opportunity not equality of outcome A merit based society What about the people who have low ability or merit? It could become a little "'ist"? That’s life So is equality is just something we talk about to impress others then and it doesn't really matter?" Should everyone be prime minister? Should everyone be a professional footballer? Should everyone have your job? Or should we all have the opportunity to try? | |||
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"Equality as a way of life is a natural impossibility. Survial of the fittest and natural instinct, even seemingly dormant instinct will take over. Equality in terms of respect, is more likely. However free will can't be overcome. To actually create true equality you would have to oppress large groups of people. Which in and of itself would not create equality because there would always be an oppressor to oversee it. There will always be those that seek to take that mantle. Equality of opportunity is the closest thing we can come to achieving it. And even that is not fully. There will always be factors and situations that will exclude somebody or groups of people - jobs for example, despite opening it to everyone, not everyone can do that job and by giving them said job would be a liability. Why do people keep saying this lol? It's like saying father Christmas is real - it's not an evidence based approach and it's a little sad that so many have given up on equality and yet they are so vocal on equality. Like it's some kind of unattainable goal, like we're all sinners and nothing good can come of this life. I strongly believe you can create anything you like if you want to, it just might take a little convincing of others in this case because too many have spread the messagea if doom with little knowledge. Why not look up and look forward rather than down and backward.... ....celebrate, rather than point thw finger and demonise? "Because fact. That's why. The very moment you give everyone equality, there will be somebody waiting to swoop in and take more. Small scale, it is potentially obtainable, but globally it is an impossibility. And if it is not global equality then it is not equality. Resulting in failure. The world is filled with those that want to take advantage, some of those people have a means to do so. Even on a personal level, you can try to treat people equal. But somebody at some point will take advantage of that in some form or another. Equality among humans is a pipe dream that will never happen, certainly not long term. | |||
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"Equality of opportunity not equality of outcome A merit based society What about the people who have low ability or merit? It could become a little "'ist"? That’s life So is equality is just something we talk about to impress others then and it doesn't really matter? Should everyone be prime minister? Should everyone be a professional footballer? Should everyone have your job? Or should we all have the opportunity to try? " That's a very good point, however isn't a little status focused? What about how we actually treat those people, Boris for example, is it ok for us all to say we hate him and that he's sleazy and his hair is silly? We can't say that to some other groups of people now can we? All people are welcome to my job | |||
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"Equality as a way of life is a natural impossibility. Survial of the fittest and natural instinct, even seemingly dormant instinct will take over. Equality in terms of respect, is more likely. However free will can't be overcome. To actually create true equality you would have to oppress large groups of people. Which in and of itself would not create equality because there would always be an oppressor to oversee it. There will always be those that seek to take that mantle. Equality of opportunity is the closest thing we can come to achieving it. And even that is not fully. There will always be factors and situations that will exclude somebody or groups of people - jobs for example, despite opening it to everyone, not everyone can do that job and by giving them said job would be a liability. Why do people keep saying this lol? It's like saying father Christmas is real - it's not an evidence based approach and it's a little sad that so many have given up on equality and yet they are so vocal on equality. Like it's some kind of unattainable goal, like we're all sinners and nothing good can come of this life. I strongly believe you can create anything you like if you want to, it just might take a little convincing of others in this case because too many have spread the messagea if doom with little knowledge. Why not look up and look forward rather than down and backward.... ....celebrate, rather than point thw finger and demonise?
Because fact. That's why.
The very moment you give everyone equality, there will be somebody waiting to swoop in and take more.
Small scale, it is potentially obtainable, but globally it is an impossibility. And if it is not global equality then it is not equality. Resulting in failure.
The world is filled with those that want to take advantage, some of those people have a means to do so.
Even on a personal level, you can try to treat people equal. But somebody at some point will take advantage of that in some form or another.
Equality among humans is a pipe dream that will never happen, certainly not long term. "In your opinion yes. Fact is something else.
So why are so many people so vocal about equality without truly believing in it? Is it just to allow them to pick and choose THEIR version of equality and prosper from it I wonder? | |||
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"Equality of opportunity not equality of outcome A merit based society What about the people who have low ability or merit? It could become a little "'ist"? That’s life So is equality is just something we talk about to impress others then and it doesn't really matter? Should everyone be prime minister? Should everyone be a professional footballer? Should everyone have your job? Or should we all have the opportunity to try? That's a very good point, however isn't a little status focused? What about how we actually treat those people, Boris for example, is it ok for us all to say we hate him and that he's sleazy and his hair is silly? We can't say that to some other groups of people now can we? All people are welcome to my job "That’s got nothing to do with equality though. You’re basically suggesting we remove free speech so that no one ever feels they’ve been spoken against unfairly? | |||
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"Equality of opportunity not equality of outcome A merit based society " Very much this | |||
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"In your opinion yes. Fact is something else.
So why are so many people so vocal about equality without truly believing in it? Is it just to allow them to pick and choose THEIR version of equality and prosper from it I wonder?"No, it's fact. The nature of every living creature is to seek out opportunity and take advantage of it for their own benefit. In addition to that, the human nature also factors in greed along with self preservation. Combined with even if you present everyone with equal beginnings, they will make use of them differently. Their choices create inequality. World events create inequality. Even blind dumb luck creates inequality. People are vocal about equality because you can view equality but you can never create it. Their vision of equality is narrow and never expands to inevitable possibilities and outcomes, they want to believe it but can never achieve it. The illusion of equality however is all we can hope to achieve. | |||
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"If we want it, don't we need to ALL start acting equal and forget pretending that we're all so uniquely special with our unique personal experiences and backgrounds? Because that by definition would screw up the equality we're seeking, wouldn't it? Is equality just some kind of human osmosis? It's just a thought, but hating the haters or introducing "positive" discrimination might seem temporary in many of your minds but it's still hurting someone just as much and in the same way as the original sin in my view. Why can't folk BE or LIVE equal rather than telling others they're wrong or inferior because of their views, background or how they behave?
It doesn't matter how beautiful you are, if you have a beautiful new dress and fight over it with another beautiful person, you're gonna rip the dress and break some nails, right?
Pile on then?
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"Equality of opportunity not equality of outcome A merit based society What about the people who have low ability or merit? It could become a little "'ist"? That’s life So is equality is just something we talk about to impress others then and it doesn't really matter? Should everyone be prime minister? Should everyone be a professional footballer? Should everyone have your job? Or should we all have the opportunity to try? That's a very good point, however isn't a little status focused? What about how we actually treat those people, Boris for example, is it ok for us all to say we hate him and that he's sleazy and his hair is silly? We can't say that to some other groups of people now can we? All people are welcome to my job
That’s got nothing to do with equality though.
You’re basically suggesting we remove free speech so that no one ever feels they’ve been spoken against unfairly? "Not at all, I love free speaking, wouldn't be here if I didn't buddy. I was asking a question regarding why I can say out loud in civilised company that Boris looks a mess or is a mess but I couldn't say that about someone with less status. How equal does that seem to you? The true equality that I was pondering in my simple mind at the beginning of this thread was just that - treating people with respect and honesty and owning your words morally regardless of your views about them and allowing them the privilege to do the same in return. Not the quality for likes, popularity and division that seems popular currently. | |||
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"If we want it, don't we need to ALL start acting equal and forget pretending that we're all so uniquely special with our unique personal experiences and backgrounds? Because that by definition would screw up the equality we're seeking, wouldn't it? Is equality just some kind of human osmosis? It's just a thought, but hating the haters or introducing "positive" discrimination might seem temporary in many of your minds but it's still hurting someone just as much and in the same way as the original sin in my view. Why can't folk BE or LIVE equal rather than telling others they're wrong or inferior because of their views, background or how they behave?
It doesn't matter how beautiful you are, if you have a beautiful new dress and fight over it with another beautiful person, you're gonna rip the dress and break some nails, right?
Pile on then?
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"Equality of opportunity not equality of outcome A merit based society What about the people who have low ability or merit? It could become a little "'ist"? That’s life So is equality is just something we talk about to impress others then and it doesn't really matter? Should everyone be prime minister? Should everyone be a professional footballer? Should everyone have your job? Or should we all have the opportunity to try? That's a very good point, however isn't a little status focused? What about how we actually treat those people, Boris for example, is it ok for us all to say we hate him and that he's sleazy and his hair is silly? We can't say that to some other groups of people now can we? All people are welcome to my job
That’s got nothing to do with equality though.
You’re basically suggesting we remove free speech so that no one ever feels they’ve been spoken against unfairly?
Not at all, I love free speaking, wouldn't be here if I didn't buddy. I was asking a question regarding why I can say out loud in civilised company that Boris looks a mess or is a mess but I couldn't say that about someone with less status. How equal does that seem to you? The true equality that I was pondering in my simple mind at the beginning of this thread was just that - treating people with respect and honesty and owning your words morally regardless of your views about them and allowing them the privilege to do the same in return. Not the quality for likes, popularity and division that seems popular currently."I’m lost. You can say anyone looks a mess? What’s stopping you | |||
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"In your opinion yes. Fact is something else.
So why are so many people so vocal about equality without truly believing in it? Is it just to allow them to pick and choose THEIR version of equality and prosper from it I wonder?
No, it's fact. The nature of every living creature is to seek out opportunity and take advantage of it for their own benefit. In addition to that, the human nature also factors in greed along with self preservation.
Combined with even if you present everyone with equal beginnings, they will make use of them differently. Their choices create inequality. World events create inequality. Even blind dumb luck creates inequality.
People are vocal about equality because you can view equality but you can never create it. Their vision of equality is narrow and never expands to inevitable possibilities and outcomes, they want to believe it but can never achieve it. The illusion of equality however is all we can hope to achieve. "I'm not gonna do you any favours so I'll stop trying, but you're still confusing opinion with fact
Why did I check in on my elderly neighbor yesterday? She has nothing to offer me to further my existence, she's a pain in my arse always moaning and asking me to fix things.
I think when we stop thinking we know everything and that the outcome is fate or fact, then we see our true potential and power for change | |||
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"Equality of opportunity not equality of outcome A merit based society What about the people who have low ability or merit? It could become a little "'ist"? That’s life So is equality is just something we talk about to impress others then and it doesn't really matter? Should everyone be prime minister? Should everyone be a professional footballer? Should everyone have your job? Or should we all have the opportunity to try? That's a very good point, however isn't a little status focused? What about how we actually treat those people, Boris for example, is it ok for us all to say we hate him and that he's sleazy and his hair is silly? We can't say that to some other groups of people now can we? All people are welcome to my job
That’s got nothing to do with equality though.
You’re basically suggesting we remove free speech so that no one ever feels they’ve been spoken against unfairly?
Not at all, I love free speaking, wouldn't be here if I didn't buddy. I was asking a question regarding why I can say out loud in civilised company that Boris looks a mess or is a mess but I couldn't say that about someone with less status. How equal does that seem to you? The true equality that I was pondering in my simple mind at the beginning of this thread was just that - treating people with respect and honesty and owning your words morally regardless of your views about them and allowing them the privilege to do the same in return. Not the quality for likes, popularity and division that seems popular currently.
I’m lost. You can say anyone looks a mess? What’s stopping you "I can think of several examples where a person could get ripped to shreds for saying such a thing, but it would be cruel to list them and would probably offend good friends so I won't, the same as I think it's pretty unnecessarily rude to say Boris looks a mess, especially when it's used as some kind of cheap back up for a political argument. I don't want to be cruel unnecessarily, do you? | |||
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What you saying x"I've no idea as usual, more thinking than saying Xx | |||
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"Are all veg equal?
No, peas are dirty!
"Hope, do you hope for equality or are you just here to cause spunky trouble?  x | |||
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"Are all veg equal?
No, peas are dirty!
Hope, do you hope for equality or are you just here to cause spunky trouble?x"There will never be equality as there is spunk | |||
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"Are all veg equal?
No, peas are dirty!
Hope, do you hope for equality or are you just here to cause spunky trouble?x
There will never be equality as there is spunk "Maybe this is the true reason I'm always demanding boobs and vEg - it's envy due to my inadequacy of not owning any | |||
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"Are all veg equal?
No, peas are dirty!
Hope, do you hope for equality or are you just here to cause spunky trouble?x
There will never be equality as there is spunk
Maybe this is the true reason I'm always demanding boobs and vEg - it's envy due to my inadequacy of not owning any "No honestly whilst there are two different sexes there will never be equality. In some cases men will be more dominant and in others women. It is plain biology. I will send you my boobs in the post. They are jolly annoying most of the time. You might get more use out of them | |||
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"Are all veg equal?
No, peas are dirty!
Hope, do you hope for equality or are you just here to cause spunky trouble?x
There will never be equality as there is spunk
Maybe this is the true reason I'm always demanding boobs and vEg - it's envy due to my inadequacy of not owning any
No honestly whilst there are two different sexes there will never be equality. In some cases men will be more dominant and in others women. It is plain biology.
I will send you my boobs in the post. They are jolly annoying most of the time. You might get more use out of them "Like the man mamory from the fockers  | |||
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"Are all veg equal?
No, peas are dirty!
Hope, do you hope for equality or are you just here to cause spunky trouble?x
There will never be equality as there is spunk
Maybe this is the true reason I'm always demanding boobs and vEg - it's envy due to my inadequacy of not owning any
No honestly whilst there are two different sexes there will never be equality. In some cases men will be more dominant and in others women. It is plain biology.
I will send you my boobs in the post. They are jolly annoying most of the time. You might get more use out of them
Like the man mamory from the fockers "Yes a bit like that. Did you want the pussy too? | |||
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"Are all veg equal?
No, peas are dirty!
Hope, do you hope for equality or are you just here to cause spunky trouble?x
There will never be equality as there is spunk
Maybe this is the true reason I'm always demanding boobs and vEg - it's envy due to my inadequacy of not owning any
No honestly whilst there are two different sexes there will never be equality. In some cases men will be more dominant and in others women. It is plain biology.
I will send you my boobs in the post. They are jolly annoying most of the time. You might get more use out of them
Like the man mamory from the fockers
Yes a bit like that. Did you want the pussy too?"Yes please! If only every girl on fab was as easy as you hope! | |||
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"Are all veg equal?
No, peas are dirty!
Hope, do you hope for equality or are you just here to cause spunky trouble?x
There will never be equality as there is spunk
Maybe this is the true reason I'm always demanding boobs and vEg - it's envy due to my inadequacy of not owning any
No honestly whilst there are two different sexes there will never be equality. In some cases men will be more dominant and in others women. It is plain biology.
I will send you my boobs in the post. They are jolly annoying most of the time. You might get more use out of them
Like the man mamory from the fockers
Yes a bit like that. Did you want the pussy too?
Yes please! If only every girl on fab was as easy as you hope! "I meant Jinx | |||
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"There will never be equality in the world " Nor while hope is withholding that fabulous fanny of hers! | |||
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"There will never be equality in the world Nor while hope is withholding that fabulous fanny of hers! "This is true. It is also the reason there will never be world peace! | |||
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"I think when we stop thinking we know everything and that the outcome is fate or fact, then we see our true potential and power for change "Fe y | |||
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