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"I can see your dillema. For me I can tolerate those little things if we can talk about it, laugh about it, get curious about the annoyances together and find ways to help each other. X " This is what generally happens. I probably painted it bit black and white. | |||
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"I would caution you on this kind of dynamic. It sounds a little all about him- he gets to be the hero and rescue you, and wants to be around when things are good. But in the everyday ness of ordinary living he isn’t to be seen. That makes him unreliable and you a little vulnerable. In the end I would spend more time looking inwards at why you’re attracted to or accepting of that dynamic. Look forward similar patterns of this elsewhere in your life eg as a kid with parents, former lovers- chances are you’re repeating something familiar to you hit not necessarily good for you. In my own case it came down to drawing my own clearer boundaries of what I do and don’t accept as behaviour from others, making those clear to a partner and having the courage to walk away when they get consistently breached. Am still learning! Good luck " Thats a very valid point about repeating patterns of being attracted to someone like that. Thanks. I really appreciate your input. I've been doing work on my boundaries drawing. Sometimes you need to make yourself a priority. For anyone worrying about him seeing it. Don't. Not a forumite. | |||
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"Dear Loungers. Share your wisdom. I have a friend who is adorable, yet an arsehole! He is driving me wild in both good and bad ways. I will share some examples. Adorable: he is there for my low moments and the highest, calls when I'm offline and checks on me, he looks at me with adoration and keeps me feeling safe, he has inspired me to do things I have abandoned and to take risks and try new and exciting challenges. He makes me laugh like a mad squirrel - bonus points. But there is an arsehole part too. He expects me to message him before I call but never returns the same favour, he wants me ideally to answer wherever I am but then at times disappears as needs time/space to himself. Its pretty rare he compliments my looks or efforts finding new outfits which is somewhat important, he is so nosey yet so reserved and so damn inconsistent between the highs and lows. My brain needs help deciding - do you give up the adoring part as struggle to tolerate the arsey bits or give them a chance? Have you got a similar friend like me? Are you attracted to unpredictable people? Thanks for getting through it. " Can't help but say it.. Sounds like there's someone else in the background. An element of a control be played out, too many red flags. I'd run, but that's a bit rich coming from me when I kept going back when I should have run like hell in the past. You live and learn though. | |||
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"Consistency! It won't ever change. Ideally you want someone in your life that makes you feel all those good things you mentioned and be consistent to. I've been where you are, very confusing place to be! " I like swings. But this more of a roller coaster sometimes. But when its swinging. Its like being hang off a tree growing at the edge of the cliff. And when you go really high it's just you and sky above and sea under. And you feel free. So highs are really high. | |||
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"Dear Loungers. Share your wisdom. I have a friend who is adorable, yet an arsehole! He is driving me wild in both good and bad ways. I will share some examples. Adorable: he is there for my low moments and the highest, calls when I'm offline and checks on me, he looks at me with adoration and keeps me feeling safe, he has inspired me to do things I have abandoned and to take risks and try new and exciting challenges. He makes me laugh like a mad squirrel - bonus points. But there is an arsehole part too. He expects me to message him before I call but never returns the same favour, he wants me ideally to answer wherever I am but then at times disappears as needs time/space to himself. Its pretty rare he compliments my looks or efforts finding new outfits which is somewhat important, he is so nosey yet so reserved and so damn inconsistent between the highs and lows. My brain needs help deciding - do you give up the adoring part as struggle to tolerate the arsey bits or give them a chance? Have you got a similar friend like me? Are you attracted to unpredictable people? Thanks for getting through it. Can't help but say it.. Sounds like there's someone else in the background. An element of a control be played out, too many red flags. I'd run, but that's a bit rich coming from me when I kept going back when I should have run like hell in the past. You live and learn though. " Aren't they addictive. Too charming for their own good. Relying on their powers and winning every time;-) must be all the kink. Heh | |||
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"Dear Loungers. Share your wisdom. I have a friend who is adorable, yet an arsehole! He is driving me wild in both good and bad ways. I will share some examples. Adorable: he is there for my low moments and the highest, calls when I'm offline and checks on me, he looks at me with adoration and keeps me feeling safe, he has inspired me to do things I have abandoned and to take risks and try new and exciting challenges. He makes me laugh like a mad squirrel - bonus points. But there is an arsehole part too. He expects me to message him before I call but never returns the same favour, he wants me ideally to answer wherever I am but then at times disappears as needs time/space to himself. Its pretty rare he compliments my looks or efforts finding new outfits which is somewhat important, he is so nosey yet so reserved and so damn inconsistent between the highs and lows. My brain needs help deciding - do you give up the adoring part as struggle to tolerate the arsey bits or give them a chance? Have you got a similar friend like me? Are you attracted to unpredictable people? Thanks for getting through it. Can't help but say it.. Sounds like there's someone else in the background. An element of a control be played out, too many red flags. I'd run, but that's a bit rich coming from me when I kept going back when I should have run like hell in the past. You live and learn though. " That’s my immediate response as well. It seems that at the least, they’re not paying as much attention as you’d like, at the worst, the stipulations around calling would be a massive red flag. In my experience, people where I have to ‘put up’ with behaviour, never ends well | |||
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"If in doubt... Don't! If you're questioning it, walk away. " But I always have doubts. About everything Its a case of an ovethinking brain | |||
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"If you are at a point where you are asking the question on a public forum I would suggest you know its no longer a healthy dynamic for you, but are looking for either confirmation or an excuse to remain from others. Really only you can decide the impact the negative parts of this relationship is having on you " I look at it as me trying to detach emotionally from it and taking it to public court which I very rarely do. I learnt in the past that keeping things to myself never ended well and isolated myself in strange relationships not sharing my doubts. I believe things can always be worked on if there is enough of 3 elements: self awareness of being a dick, remorse and willingness to work on oneself. It's happening but I can't let go of all the arsey bits which happened so I'm being cautious and seeing more impartial input so I don't sink it without putting myself first. | |||
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"I would find that really irritating and if continued and became normal I wouldn't bother with him anymore. It's a 2 way thing. " It has improved. I'm very wary though of it reoccurring. Absolutely agree on two way street but that would also be affected by D/s type of dynamic which I didnt explain and drawing certain rules. Maybe they need reframing. | |||
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"If you are at a point where you are asking the question on a public forum I would suggest you know its no longer a healthy dynamic for you, but are looking for either confirmation or an excuse to remain from others. Really only you can decide the impact the negative parts of this relationship is having on you I look at it as me trying to detach emotionally from it and taking it to public court which I very rarely do. I learnt in the past that keeping things to myself never ended well and isolated myself in strange relationships not sharing my doubts. I believe things can always be worked on if there is enough of 3 elements: self awareness of being a dick, remorse and willingness to work on oneself. It's happening but I can't let go of all the arsey bits which happened so I'm being cautious and seeing more impartial input so I don't sink it without putting myself first. " So he's working on changing? | |||
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"Does he have a pretty penis?" Does it make me shallow if so ? | |||
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"If you are at a point where you are asking the question on a public forum I would suggest you know its no longer a healthy dynamic for you, but are looking for either confirmation or an excuse to remain from others. Really only you can decide the impact the negative parts of this relationship is having on you I look at it as me trying to detach emotionally from it and taking it to public court which I very rarely do. I learnt in the past that keeping things to myself never ended well and isolated myself in strange relationships not sharing my doubts. I believe things can always be worked on if there is enough of 3 elements: self awareness of being a dick, remorse and willingness to work on oneself. It's happening but I can't let go of all the arsey bits which happened so I'm being cautious and seeing more impartial input so I don't sink it without putting myself first. So he's working on changing? " That's the perception I have. I might be wrong. Not changing. Adapting more like. | |||
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"Dear Loungers. Share your wisdom. I have a friend who is adorable, yet an arsehole! He is driving me wild in both good and bad ways. I will share some examples. Adorable: he is there for my low moments and the highest, calls when I'm offline and checks on me, he looks at me with adoration and keeps me feeling safe, he has inspired me to do things I have abandoned and to take risks and try new and exciting challenges. He makes me laugh like a mad squirrel - bonus points. But there is an arsehole part too. He expects me to message him before I call but never returns the same favour, he wants me ideally to answer wherever I am but then at times disappears as needs time/space to himself. Its pretty rare he compliments my looks or efforts finding new outfits which is somewhat important, he is so nosey yet so reserved and so damn inconsistent between the highs and lows. My brain needs help deciding - do you give up the adoring part as struggle to tolerate the arsey bits or give them a chance? Have you got a similar friend like me? Are you attracted to unpredictable people? Thanks for getting through it. Can't help but say it.. Sounds like there's someone else in the background. An element of a control be played out, too many red flags. I'd run, but that's a bit rich coming from me when I kept going back when I should have run like hell in the past. You live and learn though. Aren't they addictive. Too charming for their own good. Relying on their powers and winning every time;-) must be all the kink. Heh " I wouldn't say its their charm. More the voice in one's knickers and head and they make it easy as you are less likely to think they'll say no. They'll appeal to you wherever they can to be your choice. Control factors are often a sign someone wants to have a hold out of fear of losing. So who has the power really? | |||
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"I was so hoping you had new photos of your bumhole on show OP " I would never think of that. That should make this rocket to 175 shouldn't it. | |||
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"I was so hoping you had new photos of your bumhole on show OP " I fell for the marketing as well. | |||
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"Dear Loungers. Share your wisdom. I have a friend who is adorable, yet an arsehole! He is driving me wild in both good and bad ways. I will share some examples. Adorable: he is there for my low moments and the highest, calls when I'm offline and checks on me, he looks at me with adoration and keeps me feeling safe, he has inspired me to do things I have abandoned and to take risks and try new and exciting challenges. He makes me laugh like a mad squirrel - bonus points. But there is an arsehole part too. He expects me to message him before I call but never returns the same favour, he wants me ideally to answer wherever I am but then at times disappears as needs time/space to himself. Its pretty rare he compliments my looks or efforts finding new outfits which is somewhat important, he is so nosey yet so reserved and so damn inconsistent between the highs and lows. My brain needs help deciding - do you give up the adoring part as struggle to tolerate the arsey bits or give them a chance? Have you got a similar friend like me? Are you attracted to unpredictable people? Thanks for getting through it. " I think you've answered your own question really by realising that hes an arsehole at times which causes annoyance If hes annoyances are causing your downs then defo get rid x | |||
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"I was so hoping you had new photos of your bumhole on show OP I fell for the marketing as well." I'd say it's one of my strengths Just ramblings. Thanks for a brief visit. | |||
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"If you are at a point where you are asking the question on a public forum I would suggest you know its no longer a healthy dynamic for you, but are looking for either confirmation or an excuse to remain from others. Really only you can decide the impact the negative parts of this relationship is having on you I look at it as me trying to detach emotionally from it and taking it to public court which I very rarely do. I learnt in the past that keeping things to myself never ended well and isolated myself in strange relationships not sharing my doubts. I believe things can always be worked on if there is enough of 3 elements: self awareness of being a dick, remorse and willingness to work on oneself. It's happening but I can't let go of all the arsey bits which happened so I'm being cautious and seeing more impartial input so I don't sink it without putting myself first. " How did the similar relationships in the past end? | |||
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"It is impossible to base any comment on such cursory information and not hearing his side. Extremely superficially and a very, very shallow opinion: Walk away. If you’ve already discussed the issues both of you have and it still persists, it’s a precursor of what is to come. All the highs you mention are par for the course for anyone who adores you. The lows are not. " I know. I don't want to share too much so just chose the most adorable and the most annoying examples from extreme sides of the spectrum! Yes. Lows shouldn't be regular or persist. Then you feel you aren't doing anything enough to help them get through whatever they go through. But also I don't believe in being always happy and bouncy and those withdrawals just make me want to understand them more. Or be a keeper of a space at the very least with arms full of acceptance. Work in progress for now. | |||
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"If you are at a point where you are asking the question on a public forum I would suggest you know its no longer a healthy dynamic for you, but are looking for either confirmation or an excuse to remain from others. Really only you can decide the impact the negative parts of this relationship is having on you I look at it as me trying to detach emotionally from it and taking it to public court which I very rarely do. I learnt in the past that keeping things to myself never ended well and isolated myself in strange relationships not sharing my doubts. I believe things can always be worked on if there is enough of 3 elements: self awareness of being a dick, remorse and willingness to work on oneself. It's happening but I can't let go of all the arsey bits which happened so I'm being cautious and seeing more impartial input so I don't sink it without putting myself first. So he's working on changing? That's the perception I have. I might be wrong. Not changing. Adapting more like." I'm fairly confused I'll admit. Is this why so many men think women only like bad boys? When you say adapting do you mean modifying his behaviour just enough to keep you in the hook? | |||
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"Dear Loungers. Share your wisdom. I have a friend who is adorable, yet an arsehole! He is driving me wild in both good and bad ways. I will share some examples. Adorable: he is there for my low moments and the highest, calls when I'm offline and checks on me, he looks at me with adoration and keeps me feeling safe, he has inspired me to do things I have abandoned and to take risks and try new and exciting challenges. He makes me laugh like a mad squirrel - bonus points. But there is an arsehole part too. He expects me to message him before I call but never returns the same favour, he wants me ideally to answer wherever I am but then at times disappears as needs time/space to himself. Its pretty rare he compliments my looks or efforts finding new outfits which is somewhat important, he is so nosey yet so reserved and so damn inconsistent between the highs and lows. My brain needs help deciding - do you give up the adoring part as struggle to tolerate the arsey bits or give them a chance? Have you got a similar friend like me? Are you attracted to unpredictable people? Thanks for getting through it. " Sounds like he may be married to me but hopefully I am wrong. | |||
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"Does he have a pretty penis? Does it make me shallow if so ? " Not at all. My long term buddy is only still here because he's gorgeous, has a lovely penis and body, and sexually satisfies me. Incidentally, I ask people to text before they call me, so I'm not near any of my children or grandchildren, and I can go somewhere private to talk. If you're enjoying the good times with him-and he's not your partner-ignore the annoying things about him. That's what I do. | |||
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"Dear Loungers. Share your wisdom. I have a friend who is adorable, yet an arsehole! He is driving me wild in both good and bad ways. I will share some examples. Adorable: he is there for my low moments and the highest, calls when I'm offline and checks on me, he looks at me with adoration and keeps me feeling safe, he has inspired me to do things I have abandoned and to take risks and try new and exciting challenges. He makes me laugh like a mad squirrel - bonus points. But there is an arsehole part too. He expects me to message him before I call but never returns the same favour, he wants me ideally to answer wherever I am but then at times disappears as needs time/space to himself. Its pretty rare he compliments my looks or efforts finding new outfits which is somewhat important, he is so nosey yet so reserved and so damn inconsistent between the highs and lows. My brain needs help deciding - do you give up the adoring part as struggle to tolerate the arsey bits or give them a chance? Have you got a similar friend like me? Are you attracted to unpredictable people? Thanks for getting through it. Sounds like he may be married to me but hopefully I am wrong." He definitely has a life separate to the one he's open about with the op. What that life is we will never know. My first husband was a bit like this. | |||
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"I was so hoping you had new photos of your bumhole on show OP I would never think of that. That should make this rocket to 175 shouldn't it. " Yes, can you change your avatar photo to show this please | |||
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"I was so hoping you had new photos of your bumhole on show OP I would never think of that. That should make this rocket to 175 shouldn't it. Yes, can you change your avatar photo to show this please " Yes a picture with some sort of rocket shaped object in place will certainly help propel this to the heights of 175 | |||
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"I was so hoping you had new photos of your bumhole on show OP I would never think of that. That should make this rocket to 175 shouldn't it. Yes, can you change your avatar photo to show this please " But I don't have a photo of you | |||
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"You sound similar to me. Stay self aware and keep weighing the good against the bad. While the good is really good, I'll cope with the bad bits. Keeping my life full, busy & independant has been important to balance the sporadic interactions x " That's probably the most self preserving direction. Keeping occupied and looking after myself | |||
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"And I thought this was going to be a first thread about me when I read the header " I'd never want a thread about me. How double standard of me considering this thread | |||
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"And I thought this was going to be a first thread about me when I read the header I'd never want a thread about me. How double standard of me considering this thread " Double standards everywhere There's some nice dedication threads but you have to be fab royalty I think to have one | |||
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"How would you describe your relationship? Fwb, fb, bit more than that? Is he a fabber? " Someone met on fab but not much around these days. No label as neither of us likes it. Sexually based. I was going to type it has a potential but then I don't know what for. potential to survive the storms of working out what other person and myself need and where the boundaries should lie. Nobody should waste time and their effort for assholes. I already have one of those. and I don't want to swing on the thin threads. Need strong bond. | |||
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"We are all probably a bit Jekyll and Hyde. I guess it depends where the balance point is, and your tolerance of the less appealing. But from what you've said through the thread, you unconsciously find the unappealing slightly appealing. Which probably shifts the balance for you, but in an unrealistic way for the long term. I think at some point you'll probably need to end this. So possibly better to end it before it starts to drag you under? " Maybe I'm a bit of an asshole too. | |||
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"We are all probably a bit Jekyll and Hyde. I guess it depends where the balance point is, and your tolerance of the less appealing. But from what you've said through the thread, you unconsciously find the unappealing slightly appealing. Which probably shifts the balance for you, but in an unrealistic way for the long term. I think at some point you'll probably need to end this. So possibly better to end it before it starts to drag you under? Maybe I'm a bit of an asshole too. " If so, an adorable one though | |||
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"I think the red flags are there. It sounds almost controlling, you have to message before calling, he can call and he expects an answer. The disappearing would trouble me as well. Has he behaved this way with other partners? I suppose it comes down to whether you value one side of his personality to the other and can accept both. Good luck Tuberose, I hope it works out for you " "Has he behaved that way with others" Thars a very good question. Thanks for suggestion Babs. | |||
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"I think the red flags are there. It sounds almost controlling, you have to message before calling, he can call and he expects an answer. The disappearing would trouble me as well. Has he behaved this way with other partners? I suppose it comes down to whether you value one side of his personality to the other and can accept both. Good luck Tuberose, I hope it works out for you "Has he behaved that way with others" Thars a very good question. Thanks for suggestion Babs. " Does it matter how he's behaved with others? It's how he behaves with you that's important. | |||
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"I think the red flags are there. It sounds almost controlling, you have to message before calling, he can call and he expects an answer. The disappearing would trouble me as well. Has he behaved this way with other partners? I suppose it comes down to whether you value one side of his personality to the other and can accept both. Good luck Tuberose, I hope it works out for you "Has he behaved that way with others" Thars a very good question. Thanks for suggestion Babs. Does it matter how he's behaved with others? It's how he behaves with you that's important. " I think it could show a worrying pattern of behaviour so yes it does matter to an extent. | |||
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"I've been in a similar dynamic before that soon became a relationship. At first it's heady and intoxicating, you experience such highs and can ignore/laugh about the lows, it's part and parcel of who they are. Over time it became exhausting and not good for my mental health. Yes, I'm prone to overthinking but the little things like them disappearing whenever and not giving me any warning or message for days but getting annoyed/upset if I didn't message them for a day, the calling only when he allowed or they'd hang up but expecting me to answer whenever or I'd face a strop. I can respect people needing space and time, they have their own lives. I don't understand inconsistencies. Those quirks soon became a bit much for me and when I did voice them they were met with the arsehole not the adorable. That led to me second guessing myself, wondering if I was unfair to expect a bit more. Not good really and not fair on either of us. I suppose it depends on how you feel about the other person, what relationship it is and if it's worth it. When the bad starts out weighing the negative that's never a good thing. I've realised that as much as I do like the initial unpredictability, I couldn't do it again. " Everyone has the limits. And that's a healthy attitude. Thanks for sharing that. | |||
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"Dear Loungers. Share your wisdom. I have a friend who is adorable, yet an arsehole! He is driving me wild in both good and bad ways. I will share some examples. Adorable: he is there for my low moments and the highest, calls when I'm offline and checks on me, he looks at me with adoration and keeps me feeling safe, he has inspired me to do things I have abandoned and to take risks and try new and exciting challenges. He makes me laugh like a mad squirrel - bonus points. But there is an arsehole part too. He expects me to message him before I call but never returns the same favour, he wants me ideally to answer wherever I am but then at times disappears as needs time/space to himself. Its pretty rare he compliments my looks or efforts finding new outfits which is somewhat important, he is so nosey yet so reserved and so damn inconsistent between the highs and lows. My brain needs help deciding - do you give up the adoring part as struggle to tolerate the arsey bits or give them a chance? Have you got a similar friend like me? Are you attracted to unpredictable people? Thanks for getting through it. Sounds like he may be married to me but hopefully I am wrong." That is very very very unlikely based on what I know and behaviour patterns. I think its just controlling. | |||
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