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"Soon you won't need a licence to carry a gun in Texas. It's called reinstating the First Amendment apparently. Not sure what these means but should we not be allowed guns over here?" That sounds insane considering they also have a stand your ground law which means you can shoot anyone you like and just say you felt in fear for your life. People getting killed over parking space squabbles and road rage in the US. | |||
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"I thought the right to bear arms was the second amendment " No, that's the right to arm bears. | |||
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"I thought the right to bear arms was the second amendment No, that's the right to arm bears." no picnic basket would be safe  | |||
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"I thought the right to bear arms was the second amendment No, that's the right to arm bears. no picnic basket would be safe "Dangerous buggers  | |||
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"I thought the right to bear arms was the second amendment " You are correct. Tom, do you want to carry a gun to shoot any sharks that might be wandering around Essex, otherwise minding their own business? | |||
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"I thought the right to bear arms was the second amendment No, that's the right to arm bears. no picnic basket would be safe
Dangerous buggers "Sorry, you’re both wrong. That is the right to bare arms. Otherwise, no T-shirt’s and rolled up sleeves please. | |||
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"I thought the right to bear arms was the second amendment You are correct. Tom, do you want to carry a gun to shoot any sharks that might be wandering around Essex, otherwise minding their own business?" it was drawn up for the formation of a militia to defend the individual states, but has been misinterpreted to mean anyone | |||
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"Well in Tudor times I read that gentleman carried short stabby swords to defend themselves against robbers and street urchins.. crime has rocketed.. surely a modern day gentleman could carry a revolver for similar threats " How often have you found yourself needing a gun to defend yourself? | |||
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"Well in Tudor times I read that gentleman carried short stabby swords to defend themselves against robbers and street urchins.. crime has rocketed.. surely a modern day gentleman could carry a revolver for similar threats " I don't want to seem all pretentious by using jargon you are unfamiliar with, but I do believe the technical term for "short stabby sword" is "dagger". | |||
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"Well in Tudor times I read that gentleman carried short stabby swords to defend themselves against robbers and street urchins.. crime has rocketed.. surely a modern day gentleman could carry a revolver for similar threats How often have you found yourself needing a gun to defend yourself? " I can honestly say dozens and that was just in my childhood... | |||
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"Well in Tudor times I read that gentleman carried short stabby swords to defend themselves against robbers and street urchins.. crime has rocketed.. surely a modern day gentleman could carry a revolver for similar threats How often have you found yourself needing a gun to defend yourself? I can honestly say dozens and that was just in my childhood..." Me and some mates went in a short cruise down south and as it turned out we all needed guns when we got there! Funny year was 1982 | |||
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"I worked in Fort Lauderdale for a while, I was out with my boss when someone cut him up at a junction, when I said "you didn't even sound your horn !!" he replied "you don't do that here, he could have a gun in his glovebox". It really is a crazy country and not a nice place to live and work." Just think how much road rage here would evaporate if people thought the other driver was tooled up .. | |||
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"I worked in Fort Lauderdale for a while, I was out with my boss when someone cut him up at a junction, when I said "you didn't even sound your horn !!" he replied "you don't do that here, he could have a gun in his glovebox". It really is a crazy country and not a nice place to live and work." It's not so much a crazy country as a different culture.. a bit like a country bumpkin visiting London for the first time.. we soon adapt.. | |||
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"Well in Tudor times I read that gentleman carried short stabby swords to defend themselves against robbers and street urchins.. crime has rocketed.. surely a modern day gentleman could carry a revolver for similar threats How often have you found yourself needing a gun to defend yourself? I can honestly say dozens and that was just in my childhood... Me and some mates went in a short cruise down south and as it turned out we all needed guns when we got there! Funny year was 1982 "Certainly was, remember it all too well  | |||
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"Well in Tudor times I read that gentleman carried short stabby swords to defend themselves against robbers and street urchins.. crime has rocketed.. surely a modern day gentleman could carry a revolver for similar threats How often have you found yourself needing a gun to defend yourself? I can honestly say dozens and that was just in my childhood..." Yet you are still here, so would a gun really have helped? Especially considering they probably would have had one too. | |||
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"Well in Tudor times I read that gentleman carried short stabby swords to defend themselves against robbers and street urchins.. crime has rocketed.. surely a modern day gentleman could carry a revolver for similar threats How often have you found yourself needing a gun to defend yourself? I can honestly say dozens and that was just in my childhood... Yet you are still here, so would a gun really have helped? Especially considering they probably would have had one too. " Guns in England are for toffs to shoot pheasants and grouse. They don't want plebs to have them | |||
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"Well in Tudor times I read that gentleman carried short stabby swords to defend themselves against robbers and street urchins.. crime has rocketed.. surely a modern day gentleman could carry a revolver for similar threats How often have you found yourself needing a gun to defend yourself? I can honestly say dozens and that was just in my childhood... Yet you are still here, so would a gun really have helped? Especially considering they probably would have had one too. Guns in England are for toffs to shoot pheasants and grouse. They don't want plebs to have them " And happy for it to stay this way. | |||
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"Well in Tudor times I read that gentleman carried short stabby swords to defend themselves against robbers and street urchins.. crime has rocketed.. surely a modern day gentleman could carry a revolver for similar threats How often have you found yourself needing a gun to defend yourself? I can honestly say dozens and that was just in my childhood... Yet you are still here, so would a gun really have helped? Especially considering they probably would have had one too. Guns in England are for toffs to shoot pheasants and grouse. They don't want plebs to have them " As somone who was involved in shooting and beating for Pheasants thats pretty untrue tbh | |||
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"Because escalating arms has always worked out so well in history... I’m being sarcastic by the way. A proliferation of arms only leads to more deaths and more guns. " Same with the ever Increasing number of cars on the road | |||
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"Soon you won't need a licence to carry a gun in Texas. It's called reinstating the First Amendment apparently. Not sure what these means but should we not be allowed guns over here?" It's the Second Amendment - the first refers to freedom of the press. To say Texas is "reinstating" it is a lie put around by gun nuts. It's been in the constitution ever since the amendment is passed. And no, we shouldn't be allowed guns over here. | |||
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"We don’t have the right to bear arms in our constitution. That’s their excuse, regardless of how it has been twisted to fit the worst possible scenario their Founding Fathers could have never even imagined." I thought it was the right to bear arms, in defence against an armed militia. | |||
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"We don’t have the right to bear arms in our constitution. That’s their excuse, regardless of how it has been twisted to fit the worst possible scenario their Founding Fathers could have never even imagined." | |||
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"Soon you won't need a licence to carry a gun in Texas. It's called reinstating the First Amendment apparently. Not sure what these means but should we not be allowed guns over here?" No way I don't want to live any where that just about any one can own a gun and walk round with it on them...  | |||
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"We don’t have the right to bear arms in our constitution. That’s their excuse, regardless of how it has been twisted to fit the worst possible scenario their Founding Fathers could have never even imagined. I thought it was the right to bear arms, in defence against an armed militia." It’s the right to bear arms, within a well regulated militia, shall not be infringed Or verbatim, “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” | |||
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"Soon you won't need a licence to carry a gun in Texas. It's called reinstating the First Amendment apparently. Not sure what these means but should we not be allowed guns over here? No way I don't want to live any where that just about any one can own a gun and walk round with it on them... "Tom, I haven’t seen this all over the news, do you make this stuff up? | |||
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"I thought it was the right to bear arms, in defence against an armed militia." The Second Amendment suggests that citizens should be able to bear arms as part of a "well regulated militia". The US gun lobby tries to ignore that bit. The amendment suggests to me local law enforcement on behalf of the community rather than individual gun rights, but as the sentence is a bit bizarre, probably deliberately, it has had to be interpreted by the US supreme court several times over the years. That's because in 1791 they were talking about muskets, not AK-47s, bazookas and nuclear weapons. | |||
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"Well in Tudor times I read that gentleman carried short stabby swords to defend themselves against robbers and street urchins.. crime has rocketed.. surely a modern day gentleman could carry a revolver for similar threats How often have you found yourself needing a gun to defend yourself? I can honestly say dozens and that was just in my childhood... Yet you are still here, so would a gun really have helped? Especially considering they probably would have had one too. Guns in England are for toffs to shoot pheasants and grouse. They don't want plebs to have them " Awwwww Diddums...... Do I sense an inferiority complex here!!! I'm certainly not a "Toff" (nor a "pleb" for that matter) and I have a reasonable collection! | |||
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"Well in Tudor times I read that gentleman carried short stabby swords to defend themselves against robbers and street urchins.. crime has rocketed.. surely a modern day gentleman could carry a revolver for similar threats " I believe that statistics indicate that carrying a gun vastly increases your chances of getting shot. So doesn't seem like any sort of good idea to me! | |||
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"Well in Tudor times I read that gentleman carried short stabby swords to defend themselves against robbers and street urchins.. crime has rocketed.. surely a modern day gentleman could carry a revolver for similar threats I believe that statistics indicate that carrying a gun vastly increases your chances of getting shot. So doesn't seem like any sort of good idea to me!" I carry so does hubby no issues. People think it's the wild wild west. It is not. CDC states that close to 2 million are saved by defensive use of guns. Fort Smith recently. That could have changed real fast if it wasn't for a law biding citizen with a gun. Media does not mention that at all because it not fitting the narrative. Glad Texas going constitutional carry. Alot of other states are doing the same. | |||
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"Well in Tudor times I read that gentleman carried short stabby swords to defend themselves against robbers and street urchins.. crime has rocketed.. surely a modern day gentleman could carry a revolver for similar threats I believe that statistics indicate that carrying a gun vastly increases your chances of getting shot. So doesn't seem like any sort of good idea to me! I carry so does hubby no issues. People think it's the wild wild west. It is not. CDC states that close to 2 million are saved by defensive use of guns. Fort Smith recently. That could have changed real fast if it wasn't for a law biding citizen with a gun. Media does not mention that at all because it not fitting the narrative. Glad Texas going constitutional carry. Alot of other states are doing the same." But less than 1% of crimes involved defensive use a a gun, at least as recently as 2015. The epidemiology of self-defense gun use: Evidence from the National Crime Victimization Surveys 2007–2011 David Hemenway and Sara J.Solnick Preventive Medicine Volume 79, October 2015, Pages 22-27 | |||
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"Well in Tudor times I read that gentleman carried short stabby swords to defend themselves against robbers and street urchins.. crime has rocketed.. surely a modern day gentleman could carry a revolver for similar threats I believe that statistics indicate that carrying a gun vastly increases your chances of getting shot. So doesn't seem like any sort of good idea to me! I carry so does hubby no issues. People think it's the wild wild west. It is not. CDC states that close to 2 million are saved by defensive use of guns. Fort Smith recently. That could have changed real fast if it wasn't for a law biding citizen with a gun. Media does not mention that at all because it not fitting the narrative. Glad Texas going constitutional carry. Alot of other states are doing the same. But less than 1% of crimes involved defensive use a a gun, at least as recently as 2015. The epidemiology of self-defense gun use: Evidence from the National Crime Victimization Surveys 2007–2011 David Hemenway and Sara J.Solnick Preventive Medicine Volume 79, October 2015, Pages 22-27" Because it's defensive use it is not considered a crime. Offense use is like homicide car jacking home invasions while armed "offensive". Person protecting themselves and property while in possession "Defensive". | |||
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"Well in Tudor times I read that gentleman carried short stabby swords to defend themselves against robbers and street urchins.. crime has rocketed.. surely a modern day gentleman could carry a revolver for similar threats I believe that statistics indicate that carrying a gun vastly increases your chances of getting shot. So doesn't seem like any sort of good idea to me! I carry so does hubby no issues. People think it's the wild wild west. It is not. CDC states that close to 2 million are saved by defensive use of guns. Fort Smith recently. That could have changed real fast if it wasn't for a law biding citizen with a gun. Media does not mention that at all because it not fitting the narrative. Glad Texas going constitutional carry. Alot of other states are doing the same. But less than 1% of crimes involved defensive use a a gun, at least as recently as 2015. The epidemiology of self-defense gun use: Evidence from the National Crime Victimization Surveys 2007–2011 David Hemenway and Sara J.Solnick Preventive Medicine Volume 79, October 2015, Pages 22-27 Because it's defensive use it is not considered a crime. Offense use is like homicide car jacking home invasions while armed "offensive". Person protecting themselves and property while in possession "Defensive". " The paper is about self defense and the use of guns - clearly it is recorded as to the nature of gun use and self defense in the face of a threat of some sort. If there's no crime happening, what do you need to defend yourself from? | |||
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"Well in Tudor times I read that gentleman carried short stabby swords to defend themselves against robbers and street urchins.. crime has rocketed.. surely a modern day gentleman could carry a revolver for similar threats How often have you found yourself needing a gun to defend yourself? I can honestly say dozens and that was just in my childhood..." Good job you didn't have one then as you'd probably be dead or in prison by now. | |||
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"Well in Tudor times I read that gentleman carried short stabby swords to defend themselves against robbers and street urchins.. crime has rocketed.. surely a modern day gentleman could carry a revolver for similar threats I believe that statistics indicate that carrying a gun vastly increases your chances of getting shot. So doesn't seem like any sort of good idea to me! I carry so does hubby no issues. People think it's the wild wild west. It is not. CDC states that close to 2 million are saved by defensive use of guns. Fort Smith recently. That could have changed real fast if it wasn't for a law biding citizen with a gun. Media does not mention that at all because it not fitting the narrative. Glad Texas going constitutional carry. Alot of other states are doing the same. But less than 1% of crimes involved defensive use a a gun, at least as recently as 2015. The epidemiology of self-defense gun use: Evidence from the National Crime Victimization Surveys 2007–2011 David Hemenway and Sara J.Solnick Preventive Medicine Volume 79, October 2015, Pages 22-27 Because it's defensive use it is not considered a crime. Offense use is like homicide car jacking home invasions while armed "offensive". Person protecting themselves and property while in possession "Defensive". The paper is about self defense and the use of guns - clearly it is recorded as to the nature of gun use and self defense in the face of a threat of some sort. If there's no crime happening, what do you need to defend yourself from? " More then human threats here don't ya think ? I don't live in bear creek because the bears are swimming in bikinis. Coyotes rattlesnakes bobcats I can keep going besides the human element. | |||
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"What a coincidence that Texas announces this on the anniversary of George Floyd's death. " And ? Floyd was not carrying was he? Irrelevant 2 different states. | |||
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"Soon you won't need a licence to carry a gun in Texas. It's called reinstating the First Amendment apparently. Not sure what these means but should we not be allowed guns over here? No way I don't want to live any where that just about any one can own a gun and walk round with it on them...
Tom, I haven’t seen this all over the news, do you make this stuff up?"It is all over the news folks. I don't make this stuff up | |||
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"Soon you won't need a licence to carry a gun in Texas. It's called reinstating the First Amendment apparently. Not sure what these means but should we not be allowed guns over here? No way I don't want to live any where that just about any one can own a gun and walk round with it on them...
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"Does anybody remember the awful event that led to the ban on handguns in the UK? I'm sure no one would wish for that to happen again." Totally agree that Dunblane (nor Hungerford, although that was automatic "long guns", not handguns) should not be forgotten. Nor, though, should the fact that had the senior officer (an Inspector from recollection) not overruled the FEO's recommendations that Hamiltons' Firearms licence not be renewed, then Dunblane wouldn't have happened. | |||
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"I thought it was the right to bear arms, in defence against an armed militia. The Second Amendment suggests that citizens should be able to bear arms as part of a "well regulated militia". The US gun lobby tries to ignore that bit. The amendment suggests to me local law enforcement on behalf of the community rather than individual gun rights, but as the sentence is a bit bizarre, probably deliberately, it has had to be interpreted by the US supreme court several times over the years. That's because in 1791 they were talking about muskets, not AK-47s, bazookas and nuclear weapons." Ak47’s or any automatic machine gun, as well as bazookas and nuclear weapons are not legal on Texas. | |||
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"I thought it was the right to bear arms, in defence against an armed militia. The Second Amendment suggests that citizens should be able to bear arms as part of a "well regulated militia". The US gun lobby tries to ignore that bit. The amendment suggests to me local law enforcement on behalf of the community rather than individual gun rights, but as the sentence is a bit bizarre, probably deliberately, it has had to be interpreted by the US supreme court several times over the years. That's because in 1791 they were talking about muskets, not AK-47s, bazookas and nuclear weapons. Ak47’s or any automatic machine gun, as well as bazookas and nuclear weapons are not legal on Texas." The misconception is unbelievable sometimes.  | |||
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"I’m happy we have very strict gun laws here, doesn’t stop the crazies of course." They outlawed guns so it’s mainly the outlaws who have them  | |||
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"I’m happy we have very strict gun laws here, doesn’t stop the crazies of course. They outlawed guns so it’s mainly the outlaws who have them "Ironically, since Dunblane, it's never been easier to obtain illegal handguns, primarily from eastern Europe, ex SovBloc countries. Whether this was as a result of Freedom of Movement or not, who knows! | |||
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"I’m happy we have very strict gun laws here, doesn’t stop the crazies of course. They outlawed guns so it’s mainly the outlaws who have them "Exactly | |||
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"Give everyone guns Gun crime + deaths go up Surprised pikachu face Good job America " Where you been except the news. Guns been around forever. Semi automatic since 1873. It's a social issue not a gun issue. So I suppose I should just give up my right to carry and all of my guns and hubby's to satisfy a issue that is not going to be resolved by giving up my rights as a law abiding citizen? So let's just just give control to the criminal element and the nutcases that do not care. California strictest gun laws in the nation. 8 dead today. I'll fight for my rights. | |||
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"I can understand that people want to protect themselves and their families, I mean even caveman had club's to do this, it's natural to protect your own. However what I can't understand is how each state can be so different from the next? The constitution is a national thing right? Yet states can pick and choose to what level they want to use it. Surely the laws should be the same regardless of what state you live in?? Or am I wrong and surely this is something that should be decided at the highest level of government and decided on a national level?? A friend went on holiday to Florida a few years ago visiting his brother, I can't remember what they where queuing for but two guys pushed into the queue my mate was just about to have a moan at them when his brother stopped him saying that they would be within their rights to shoot him claiming that if they feel threatened it's ok to do so. Surely this isn't what gun carrying should be about? Please feel free to correct me and I am not being sarcastic." I think you're friends are exaggerating extremely. Thier is a broad range on why people Carry legally. I am 5'2 constantly getting black bears coyotes bobcats and other dangerous critters. So I have to give up my constitutional right just to satisfy stupid people in cities that have the strictest gun laws in the nation? Nope I'll keep mine | |||
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"I would feel much safer carrying a gun.. especially if I had to visit london" Give it a go, see what happens. What harm could it do? | |||
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"Thank god we don’t have guns legal in London A Cameron Diaz film springs to mind ‘Never leave the house with a loaded gun’ "I leave the house with a G 19 loaded no issues. Kind of a fallacy to think that. | |||
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"I would feel much safer carrying a gun.. especially if I had to visit london Give it a go, see what happens. What harm could it do? "No harm if trained right and he is confident in his skills. | |||
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"What a coincidence that Texas announces this on the anniversary of George Floyd's death. And ? Floyd was not carrying was he? Irrelevant 2 different states." I never said he was. It's just an interesting coincidence to announce it on the same day especially when so many black people seem to be on the receiving end of violence involving guns. | |||
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"I would feel much safer carrying a gun.. especially if I had to visit london Give it a go, see what happens. What harm could it do?
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"I would feel much safer carrying a gun.. especially if I had to visit london" Really? You're more likely to be killed, not least by the police. | |||
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"What a coincidence that Texas announces this on the anniversary of George Floyd's death. And ? Floyd was not carrying was he? Irrelevant 2 different states. I never said he was. It's just an interesting coincidence to announce it on the same day especially when so many black people seem to be on the receiving end of violence involving guns. " You do realize it's black on black crime involving guns So let's just take the rights of law abiding black people in Chicago and other major cities away. What do you think the results would be ? Since they do not care about the laws now let's take the only defense law abiding people have and give it to the criminals. Call the police and call a good takeout in those areas see what arrives first. | |||
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"What a coincidence that Texas announces this on the anniversary of George Floyd's death. And ? Floyd was not carrying was he? Irrelevant 2 different states. I never said he was. It's just an interesting coincidence to announce it on the same day especially when so many black people seem to be on the receiving end of violence involving guns. You do realize it's black on black crime involving guns So let's just take the rights of law abiding black people in Chicago and other major cities away. What do you think the results would be ? Since they do not care about the laws now let's take the only defense law abiding people have and give it to the criminals. Call the police and call a good takeout in those areas see what arrives first." Let's just assume that's correct. It was still an interesting coincidence to announce that day bearing in mind the national profile of the Floyd commemoration. | |||
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"I would feel much safer carrying a gun.. especially if I had to visit london" A quote from Roman poet I remember ‘London is the flea pit of the world’ And in a projective holistic recognition... London has always been a huge commercial port where many different races have lived...and strategic position for entrepreneurial markets Fear is the enemy when immigration is high and can assure while growing up in London .. there are dangers and fears... there is a lack of love because of overpopulation over pricing and solitude to support urban tax payers, massive housing and renting oligopolies... immigrant communities who’s children become Londoners but struggle to engage in the rat race of over priced rent and low wages.. to state but a few certainly a very powerful breed of loyalty exists between friends and neighbours regardless of race colour and creed.. My advice I learnt living up north... words and fists are the guns to defend yourself with yet you should pick up people with these tools and make friends I am completely against weapons ... fire will only create fire ? Interesting topic ... I believe carrying a weapon will cause you much more trouble regardless of who you are where you are and what would you do with it? And Why put yourself in a position that is risky ? | |||
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"What a coincidence that Texas announces this on the anniversary of George Floyd's death. And ? Floyd was not carrying was he? Irrelevant 2 different states. I never said he was. It's just an interesting coincidence to announce it on the same day especially when so many black people seem to be on the receiving end of violence involving guns. You do realize it's black on black crime involving guns So let's just take the rights of law abiding black people in Chicago and other major cities away. What do you think the results would be ? Since they do not care about the laws now let's take the only defense law abiding people have and give it to the criminals. Call the police and call a good takeout in those areas see what arrives first. Let's just assume that's correct. It was still an interesting coincidence to announce that day bearing in mind the national profile of the Floyd commemoration. " It's a policy would you have any indifference if it was enacted on memorial day? Where we honor our war dead ? Would that have been a better choice ? | |||
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"Because escalating arms has always worked out so well in history... I’m being sarcastic by the way. A proliferation of arms only leads to more deaths and more guns. Same with the ever Increasing number of cars on the road " Road deaths have actually fallen dramatically. More to do with better car design, road layout, awareness of drink-driving and the liberty-infringing seat-belts than any improvement in driving. | |||
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"Well guns not legal here except if you are a toff shooting birds so not for me.. I will just stay at home... It's not safe out there and expect in London.. " Come to the states we have 32 between hubby and I lol.  | |||
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"i am a firearm owner. Everytime i visit the states i carry a concealed firearm. where i go the law is clear. if someone is acting violently or behaving in a way that can endanger others i have the right to shoot that person. And shoot them a lot. car-jacking, burglary, robbery etc any of this shit goes down and you can assist, you shoot that mother dead. the message from the sheriffs office is clear. dont commit crime, mind your business, leave people alone. the crime rate is at its lowest for 49 years because criminals know they will be gunned down. there is no mercy. and the sheriff goes on camera and youtube making sure there is no misunderstanding. when the blm riots were happening all over america sheriff Judd told the press that if anyone comes to his county and tries to steal, break into house and set fires the people can blow them back into the street with there guns. you do get nutters who go on the rampage, that recently happened in russia as well. the only person who stops a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun dont delude yourself. you point a gun at the police and you will be shot repeatedly and to be honest if your doing that you must have less than 5 braincells 3 of them not working. one turkey was shot 67 times and the police ran out of bullets. one idiot was threatening a taxi driver saying he was going to kill him, he run the uber driver off the road and pointed a mobile phone at him.it was dark, he thought it was a gun. the uber driver in fear shot the man dead. it was a clear stand your ground case and he was free to go. people respect each other and everywhere people are polite and welcoming. criminals go elsewhere because the good fight back. and make no mistake this isnt the wild west. this is honest people who support the community in defending itself and others. the only people who have a problem with this are the criminals. " Amen | |||
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"i am a firearm owner. Everytime i visit the states i carry a concealed firearm. where i go the law is clear. if someone is acting violently or behaving in a way that can endanger others i have the right to shoot that person. And shoot them a lot. car-jacking, burglary, robbery etc any of this shit goes down and you can assist, you shoot that mother dead. the message from the sheriffs office is clear. dont commit crime, mind your business, leave people alone. the crime rate is at its lowest for 49 years because criminals know they will be gunned down. there is no mercy. and the sheriff goes on camera and youtube making sure there is no misunderstanding. when the blm riots were happening all over america sheriff Judd told the press that if anyone comes to his county and tries to steal, break into house and set fires the people can blow them back into the street with there guns. you do get nutters who go on the rampage, that recently happened in russia as well. the only person who stops a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun dont delude yourself. you point a gun at the police and you will be shot repeatedly and to be honest if your doing that you must have less than 5 braincells 3 of them not working. one turkey was shot 67 times and the police ran out of bullets. one idiot was threatening a taxi driver saying he was going to kill him, he run the uber driver off the road and pointed a mobile phone at him.it was dark, he thought it was a gun. the uber driver in fear shot the man dead. it was a clear stand your ground case and he was free to go. people respect each other and everywhere people are polite and welcoming. criminals go elsewhere because the good fight back. and make no mistake this isnt the wild west. this is honest people who support the community in defending itself and others. the only people who have a problem with this are the criminals. " Really great place where you can get shot for being angry in charge of a mobile phone. It might work in some less densely populated areas of America, but I don't want it over here. (And yes, I do know how to use a hand gun, but I hope I never have to have one in this country) | |||
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"Does anybody remember the awful event that led to the ban on handguns in the UK? I'm sure no one would wish for that to happen again."
I don't, but I remember vividly the massacre in Australia shortly after.
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"Well in Tudor times I read that gentleman carried short stabby swords to defend themselves against robbers and street urchins.. crime has rocketed.. surely a modern day gentleman could carry a revolver for similar threats How often have you found yourself needing a gun to defend yourself? I can honestly say dozens and that was just in my childhood... Yet you are still here, so would a gun really have helped? Especially considering they probably would have had one too. Guns in England are for toffs to shoot pheasants and grouse. They don't want plebs to have them " Shame pretty much every criminal has access to one, or owns an illegal firearm. | |||
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"It’s hand guns only But then you got the gray area guns like the cmmg banshee Witch is clearly a ar-15 but with a short barrel and stock but still chambered in 5.56 or 300 blackout And is considered a hand gun Mind you they may be crack down on big callers guns after whistlindiesel Shot him self in the head with a .50 cal very lucky to be alive And then kentucky ballistics .50 cal blowing up to a very hot load slap round almost killed him " We need those .50 cal rifles, how else can we kill someone over a mile away, or shoot through walls. They are perfect for getting that pesky neighbour, who threatened you with his desert eagle .50ae. | |||
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"People who haven't lived in the U.S. and embraced what the constitution represents can't understand why the right to keep and bear arms is so heavily defended. If I were still living there i'd own multiple firearms and would be well trained on how to use them. It's true there are mass shootings, but there are many instances of tragedies being averted by responsible gun owners. The police can't be everywhere and are even less available thanks to these brainless "defund the police" campaigns. That rarely makes the news because it doesn't fit the narrative. Some of the safest communities in America can be found in the heartland states or "flyover country" where most people are gun owners and are law abiding citizens. " Exactly hubby and I are not big city people. I hate it big cities are cesspools. Why do I as a responsible owner have to bow my rights because of idiots in big cities. | |||
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"People who haven't lived in the U.S. and embraced what the constitution represents can't understand why the right to keep and bear arms is so heavily defended. If I were still living there i'd own multiple firearms and would be well trained on how to use them. It's true there are mass shootings, but there are many instances of tragedies being averted by responsible gun owners. The police can't be everywhere and are even less available thanks to these brainless "defund the police" campaigns. That rarely makes the news because it doesn't fit the narrative. Some of the safest communities in America can be found in the heartland states or "flyover country" where most people are gun owners and are law abiding citizens. Exactly hubby and I are not big city people. I hate it big cities are cesspools. Why do I as a responsible owner have to bow my rights because of idiots in big cities." If anything, people with disposable income are fleeing big cities in droves. Especially due to the riots of the past year and the defund the police campaigns in democrat run metropolitan areas. My beloved California is seeing people jump ship in record numbers. San francisco has become a veritable shithole | |||
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"People who haven't lived in the U.S. and embraced what the constitution represents can't understand why the right to keep and bear arms is so heavily defended. If I were still living there i'd own multiple firearms and would be well trained on how to use them. It's true there are mass shootings, but there are many instances of tragedies being averted by responsible gun owners. The police can't be everywhere and are even less available thanks to these brainless "defund the police" campaigns. That rarely makes the news because it doesn't fit the narrative. Some of the safest communities in America can be found in the heartland states or "flyover country" where most people are gun owners and are law abiding citizens. Exactly hubby and I are not big city people. I hate it big cities are cesspools. Why do I as a responsible owner have to bow my rights because of idiots in big cities. If anything, people with disposable income are fleeing big cities in droves. Especially due to the riots of the past year and the defund the police campaigns in democrat run metropolitan areas. My beloved California is seeing people jump ship in record numbers. San francisco has become a veritable shithole "We see alot of people exiting new York alot of my car plates around. | |||
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"Texan's are misunderstood, they're just pleased to see you! "Pretty much every rual folk. People just focus on what media feeds them. They wait for the next tragedy with anticipation to say see told you so. My told you so does not apply totally different Media is a tool to control idiots. | |||
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Pretty much every rual folk. People just focus on what media feeds them. They wait for the next tragedy with anticipation to say see told you so. My told you so does not apply totally different Media is a tool to control idiots. "Your pics make me want to shoot | |||
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"People who haven't lived in the U.S. and embraced what the constitution represents can't understand why the right to keep and bear arms is so heavily defended. If I were still living there i'd own multiple firearms and would be well trained on how to use them. It's true there are mass shootings, but there are many instances of tragedies being averted by responsible gun owners. The police can't be everywhere and are even less available thanks to these brainless "defund the police" campaigns. That rarely makes the news because it doesn't fit the narrative. Some of the safest communities in America can be found in the heartland states or "flyover country" where most people are gun owners and are law abiding citizens. Exactly hubby and I are not big city people. I hate it big cities are cesspools. Why do I as a responsible owner have to bow my rights because of idiots in big cities. If anything, people with disposable income are fleeing big cities in droves. Especially due to the riots of the past year and the defund the police campaigns in democrat run metropolitan areas. My beloved California is seeing people jump ship in record numbers. San francisco has become a veritable shithole
We see alot of people exiting new York alot of my car plates around. "Well...NY is fast becoming another mess. Thank democratic governance again, and the raising of taxes that's leading the flight to red states. | |||
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"Soon you won't need a licence to carry a gun in Texas. It's called reinstating the First Amendment apparently. Not sure what these means but should we not be allowed guns over here?" God no!! Hell if we allowed that in the U.K. The murder rates would escalate | |||
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"Soon you won't need a licence to carry a gun in Texas. It's called reinstating the First Amendment apparently. Not sure what these means but should we not be allowed guns over here? God no!! Hell if we allowed that in the U.K. The murder rates would escalate " Hmm. Difficult to predict, these things are multifactorial. The one thing that always struck me when doing comparative analysis of crime rates was the amount of accidental death I found in the US. The absolute numbers - could easily be caused by a combination of other factors. But the "aggravated (crime)" figures were staggering. So much needless bloodshed. | |||
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"...should we not be allowed guns over here?" I agree. We should not be allowed to carry guns over here. Think of the innocent sharks that might get shot. The one with fricking lasers on their head might be able to shoot back though | |||
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"I worked in Fort Lauderdale for a while, I was out with my boss when someone cut him up at a junction, when I said "you didn't even sound your horn !!" he replied "you don't do that here, he could have a gun in his glovebox". It really is a crazy country and not a nice place to live and work. Just think how much road rage here would evaporate if people thought the other driver was tooled up .." None. It would just escalate and cause fatalities. | |||
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"Soon you won't need a licence to carry a gun in Texas. It's called reinstating the First Amendment apparently. Not sure what these means but should we not be allowed guns over here?" We are allowed Guns here Difference is Self Defence isnt a valid reason to own one. Except i think Northern ireland possibly where it is and also Handguns are legal (They kinda are still legal here also but have to be a certain barrel length, I maybe wrong with that one) Its easier to get a Suppressor in this country than alot of States in the US Its perfectly legal to own and fire a Tank Main cannon if you have the right license, no HE shells though. We are allowed guns here | |||
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"Soon you won't need a licence to carry a gun in Texas. It's called reinstating the First Amendment apparently. Not sure what these means but should we not be allowed guns over here? We are allowed Guns here Difference is Self Defence isnt a valid reason to own one. Except i think Northern ireland possibly where it is and also Handguns are legal (They kinda are still legal here also but have to be a certain barrel length, I maybe wrong with that one) Its easier to get a Suppressor in this country than alot of States in the US Its perfectly legal to own and fire a Tank Main cannon if you have the right license, no HE shells though. We are allowed guns here" British law basically bans handguns (ie firearms with a barrel shorter than 12 inches, or total length less than 24 inches). There are exceptions however. Muzzle loading pistols can be permitted, as can some historical firearms. Pistols used for the humane dispatch of injured animals (deer etc) can also be permitted. Shotguns (including self loading or "semi automatic", but limited to no more than 3 cartridge capacity) are permitted on a Shotgun Certificate (SGC). Rifles are permitted on a Firearms Certificate (FAC), although self loading ("semi automatic") or pump action rifles are only permitted in .22 calibre. Anyone can apply for a SGC & /or FAC. For a SGC, it is up to the police to prove the applicant is not suitable to have one. For a FAC, it is up to the applicant to prove good reason to have one. I'm not sure as regards legally allowable handguns, but I would imagine the same would apply as for a FAC. If you require a suppressor (silencer) for either shotguns or rifles, then my understanding is that it has to be a specific item on a FAC. There are also restrictions as to certain types of ammunition. Self defence is not, to the best of my knowledge, a valid reason to get a FAC. However, any permitted firearm may be used, by a home owner, for self defence, providing it is reasonable (but I'm not sure what constitutes reasonable has ever been defined!). So yes, we are allowed (with restrictions), "guns" here | |||
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"Soon you won't need a licence to carry a gun in Texas. It's called reinstating the First Amendment apparently. Not sure what these means but should we not be allowed guns over here? We are allowed Guns here Difference is Self Defence isnt a valid reason to own one. Except i think Northern ireland possibly where it is and also Handguns are legal (They kinda are still legal here also but have to be a certain barrel length, I maybe wrong with that one) Its easier to get a Suppressor in this country than alot of States in the US Its perfectly legal to own and fire a Tank Main cannon if you have the right license, no HE shells though. We are allowed guns here British law basically bans handguns (ie firearms with a barrel shorter than 12 inches, or total length less than 24 inches). There are exceptions however. Muzzle loading pistols can be permitted, as can some historical firearms. Pistols used for the humane dispatch of injured animals (deer etc) can also be permitted. Shotguns (including self loading or "semi automatic", but limited to no more than 3 cartridge capacity) are permitted on a Shotgun Certificate (SGC). Rifles are permitted on a Firearms Certificate (FAC), although self loading ("semi automatic") or pump action rifles are only permitted in .22 calibre. Anyone can apply for a SGC & /or FAC. For a SGC, it is up to the police to prove the applicant is not suitable to have one. For a FAC, it is up to the applicant to prove good reason to have one. I'm not sure as regards legally allowable handguns, but I would imagine the same would apply as for a FAC. If you require a suppressor (silencer) for either shotguns or rifles, then my understanding is that it has to be a specific item on a FAC. There are also restrictions as to certain types of ammunition. Self defence is not, to the best of my knowledge, a valid reason to get a FAC. However, any permitted firearm may be used, by a home owner, for self defence, providing it is reasonable (but I'm not sure what constitutes reasonable has ever been defined!). So yes, we are allowed (with restrictions), "guns" here" Guns don't kill it's the idiot behind it. Still waiting on mine to go out on a shooting spree. The 1873 Winchester might do it on its own it's old and cranky. | |||
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"Soon you won't need a licence to carry a gun in Texas. It's called reinstating the First Amendment apparently. Not sure what these means but should we not be allowed guns over here? We are allowed Guns here Difference is Self Defence isnt a valid reason to own one. Except i think Northern ireland possibly where it is and also Handguns are legal (They kinda are still legal here also but have to be a certain barrel length, I maybe wrong with that one) Its easier to get a Suppressor in this country than alot of States in the US Its perfectly legal to own and fire a Tank Main cannon if you have the right license, no HE shells though. We are allowed guns here British law basically bans handguns (ie firearms with a barrel shorter than 12 inches, or total length less than 24 inches). There are exceptions however. Muzzle loading pistols can be permitted, as can some historical firearms. Pistols used for the humane dispatch of injured animals (deer etc) can also be permitted. Shotguns (including self loading or "semi automatic", but limited to no more than 3 cartridge capacity) are permitted on a Shotgun Certificate (SGC). Rifles are permitted on a Firearms Certificate (FAC), although self loading ("semi automatic") or pump action rifles are only permitted in .22 calibre. Anyone can apply for a SGC & /or FAC. For a SGC, it is up to the police to prove the applicant is not suitable to have one. For a FAC, it is up to the applicant to prove good reason to have one. I'm not sure as regards legally allowable handguns, but I would imagine the same would apply as for a FAC. If you require a suppressor (silencer) for either shotguns or rifles, then my understanding is that it has to be a specific item on a FAC. There are also restrictions as to certain types of ammunition. Self defence is not, to the best of my knowledge, a valid reason to get a FAC. However, any permitted firearm may be used, by a home owner, for self defence, providing it is reasonable (but I'm not sure what constitutes reasonable has ever been defined!). So yes, we are allowed (with restrictions), "guns" here Guns don't kill it's the idiot behind it. Still waiting on mine to go out on a shooting spree. The 1873 Winchester might do it on its own it's old and cranky." Even non-idiots make mistakes and mis-read situations in the heat of the moment. It happens with police who receive regular training so I can't see how fewer accidents would happen by having more guns in the hands of you or me. We can often be too keen to assert our 'rights' while infringing the 'rights' of others. | |||
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"Soon you won't need a licence to carry a gun in Texas. It's called reinstating the First Amendment apparently. Not sure what these means but should we not be allowed guns over here? We are allowed Guns here Difference is Self Defence isnt a valid reason to own one. Except i think Northern ireland possibly where it is and also Handguns are legal (They kinda are still legal here also but have to be a certain barrel length, I maybe wrong with that one) Its easier to get a Suppressor in this country than alot of States in the US Its perfectly legal to own and fire a Tank Main cannon if you have the right license, no HE shells though. We are allowed guns here British law basically bans handguns (ie firearms with a barrel shorter than 12 inches, or total length less than 24 inches). There are exceptions however. Muzzle loading pistols can be permitted, as can some historical firearms. Pistols used for the humane dispatch of injured animals (deer etc) can also be permitted. Shotguns (including self loading or "semi automatic", but limited to no more than 3 cartridge capacity) are permitted on a Shotgun Certificate (SGC). Rifles are permitted on a Firearms Certificate (FAC), although self loading ("semi automatic") or pump action rifles are only permitted in .22 calibre. Anyone can apply for a SGC & /or FAC. For a SGC, it is up to the police to prove the applicant is not suitable to have one. For a FAC, it is up to the applicant to prove good reason to have one. I'm not sure as regards legally allowable handguns, but I would imagine the same would apply as for a FAC. If you require a suppressor (silencer) for either shotguns or rifles, then my understanding is that it has to be a specific item on a FAC. There are also restrictions as to certain types of ammunition. Self defence is not, to the best of my knowledge, a valid reason to get a FAC. However, any permitted firearm may be used, by a home owner, for self defence, providing it is reasonable (but I'm not sure what constitutes reasonable has ever been defined!). So yes, we are allowed (with restrictions), "guns" here Guns don't kill it's the idiot behind it. Still waiting on mine to go out on a shooting spree. The 1873 Winchester might do it on its own it's old and cranky. Even non-idiots make mistakes and mis-read situations in the heat of the moment. It happens with police who receive regular training so I can't see how fewer accidents would happen by having more guns in the hands of you or me. We can often be too keen to assert our 'rights' while infringing the 'rights' of others. " Yet I have 32 guns and no issues what is the scientific data on my possession of them ? People want facts well my facts trump Those. 0 issues. They been sitting in the safe all snuggled up together. To think is a gun issue is absurd. It is a mentality issue. Like I said guns can't kill without someone pulling the trigger. They are a inanimate objects until called upon.. | |||
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"Yet I have 32 guns and no issues what is the scientific data on my possession of them ?Don't know about data - the NRA have opposed any attempt to keep stats on guns over the years - but here's the reality: if I lived next door to you, you would be a threat to me and my family. Once somebody decides to blow your safe and take your guns, you're a threat to the community also." Then don't live next to me I wouldn't be the only one you would have issues with. I live in a community that uses them your thought process is faulty and skewed. | |||
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"Yet I have 32 guns and no issues what is the scientific data on my possession of them ?Don't know about data - the NRA have opposed any attempt to keep stats on guns over the years - but here's the reality: if I lived next door to you, you would be a threat to me and my family. Once somebody decides to blow your safe and take your guns, you're a threat to the community also.Then don't live next to me I wouldn't be the only one you would have issues with. I live in a community that uses them your thought process is faulty and skewed. " You don't seem able to accept that others can hold a different view to yours? It's just as valid, not faulty or skewed as you put it. You can't deny other people their feelings. Mistakes happen, however much security, training or other 'safeguards' are in place. | |||
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"It would be interesting to see more empirical data on US gun safety without political interference. " Blimey.. ! Bet your great company at dinner parties..  | |||
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"Yet I have 32 guns and no issues what is the scientific data on my possession of them ?Don't know about data - the NRA have opposed any attempt to keep stats on guns over the years - but here's the reality: if I lived next door to you, you would be a threat to me and my family. Once somebody decides to blow your safe and take your guns, you're a threat to the community also.Then don't live next to me I wouldn't be the only one you would have issues with. I live in a community that uses them your thought process is faulty and skewed. You don't seem able to accept that others can hold a different view to yours? It's just as valid, not faulty or skewed as you put it. You can't deny other people their feelings. Mistakes happen, however much security, training or other 'safeguards' are in place. " And same goes for you we raised with them since childhood. So my feelings have to be put aside because of 0 understanding except what they "Feel" is right because politicians and media tells them? My safeguards have been working for generations. | |||
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"Soon you won't need a licence to carry a gun in Texas. It's called reinstating the First Amendment apparently. Not sure what these means but should we not be allowed guns over here?" 1) 2nd amendment 2) Texas is already an open carry state which means you can take it anywhere 3) I always find it interesting that republicans want more control over a woman’s body than they do an implement of death ( another subject for another time) 4) look at the number of deaths here by guns compared to the us… do I think you should allow guns here…. Hell no!!!! | |||
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"Yet I have 32 guns and no issues what is the scientific data on my possession of them ?Don't know about data - the NRA have opposed any attempt to keep stats on guns over the years - but here's the reality: if I lived next door to you, you would be a threat to me and my family. Once somebody decides to blow your safe and take your guns, you're a threat to the community also.Then don't live next to me I wouldn't be the only one you would have issues with. I live in a community that uses them your thought process is faulty and skewed. You don't seem able to accept that others can hold a different view to yours? It's just as valid, not faulty or skewed as you put it. You can't deny other people their feelings. Mistakes happen, however much security, training or other 'safeguards' are in place. And same goes for you we raised with them since childhood. So my feelings have to be put aside because of 0 understanding except what they "Feel" is right because politicians and media tells them? My safeguards have been working for generations. " I'm not denying you your feelings at all. It's possible for people to feel differently about guns. You clearly feel safe having them while others feel they're a threat. Both are legitimate views to hold. | |||
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"Does anybody remember the awful event that led to the ban on handguns in the UK? I'm sure no one would wish for that to happen again." Which one… dunblane or hungerford!!! Mind you the US have had Sandy hook, the pulse nightclub in Orlando, the concert in Las Vegas, the massacre at Virginia tech, and the parklands shooting… and none of them moved the needle…. | |||
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"Well in Tudor times I read that gentleman carried short stabby swords to defend themselves against robbers and street urchins.. crime has rocketed.. surely a modern day gentleman could carry a revolver for similar threats I believe that statistics indicate that carrying a gun vastly increases your chances of getting shot. So doesn't seem like any sort of good idea to me! I carry so does hubby no issues. People think it's the wild wild west. It is not. CDC states that close to 2 million are saved by defensive use of guns. Fort Smith recently. That could have changed real fast if it wasn't for a law biding citizen with a gun. Media does not mention that at all because it not fitting the narrative. Glad Texas going constitutional carry. Alot of other states are doing the same." Having the ability to end a life at the squeeze of the trigger and then allowing anyone who wants a weapon the right to carry one is just madness. People are killed everyday over nothing or by accident. That fact you even carry a gun means statistically your are way more likely to die or be shot. Unless you’re in the armed forces you shouldn’t have a gun. How many Texans are shot and killed each year compared to the UK? | |||
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"Does anybody remember the awful event that led to the ban on handguns in the UK? I'm sure no one would wish for that to happen again. Which one… dunblane or hungerford!!! Mind you the US have had Sandy hook, the pulse nightclub in Orlando, the concert in Las Vegas, the massacre at Virginia tech, and the parklands shooting… and none of them moved the needle…." You love the specifics of 1 gun. Yet 10 times are killed every year in Chicago. Yet nothing said. Mass shootings happen almost every weekend but you focus on the "white" political correct one according to media. Why ?. Handguns kill more yet you have a habit of going to focus on what white shooters do . Yet black on black 10 fold more deaths. Let's ignore those right. | |||
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"I would feel much safer carrying a gun.. especially if I had to visit london Give it a go, see what happens. What harm could it do?
No harm if trained right and he is confident in his skills. "Unless you get into a argument. Ends up in a fight. They take the gun from you and shoot you dead. Happens everyday in America. A toddler found a gun in his mommas purse. Shot his little brother by accident. Happens everyday in America. People are selfish and only think about themselves. They think it’ll never happen to me? 40,000 dead Americans every single years says otherwise. So grateful the UK has very strict guns laws and T theres zero fear of being shot from a burglar, robber or stressed commuter. I don’t need a gun to protect my self or my family. The UK is very safe. America with guns is a dangerous place to be. | |||
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"I would feel much safer carrying a gun.. especially if I had to visit london Give it a go, see what happens. What harm could it do?
No harm if trained right and he is confident in his skills.
Unless you get into a argument. Ends up in a fight. They take the gun from you and shoot you dead. Happens everyday in America.
A toddler found a gun in his mommas purse. Shot his little brother by accident. Happens everyday in America. People are selfish and only think about themselves. They think it’ll never happen to me?
40,000 dead Americans every single years says otherwise.
So grateful the UK has very strict guns laws and T
theres zero fear of being shot from a burglar, robber or stressed commuter.
I don’t need a gun to protect my self or my family. The UK is very safe. America with guns is a dangerous place to be. "60000 to 2.5 million each year save by them. I will take those odds over the former. According to fact CDC. | |||
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"I would feel much safer carrying a gun.. especially if I had to visit london Give it a go, see what happens. What harm could it do?
No harm if trained right and he is confident in his skills.
Unless you get into a argument. Ends up in a fight. They take the gun from you and shoot you dead. Happens everyday in America.
A toddler found a gun in his mommas purse. Shot his little brother by accident. Happens everyday in America. People are selfish and only think about themselves. They think it’ll never happen to me?
40,000 dead Americans every single years says otherwise.
So grateful the UK has very strict guns laws and T
theres zero fear of being shot from a burglar, robber or stressed commuter.
I don’t need a gun to protect my self or my family. The UK is very safe. America with guns is a dangerous place to be. 60000 to 2.5 million each year save by them. I will take those odds over the former. According to fact CDC."That's "defensive gun uses a year", not lives saved | |||
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"I would feel much safer carrying a gun.. especially if I had to visit london Give it a go, see what happens. What harm could it do?
No harm if trained right and he is confident in his skills.
Unless you get into a argument. Ends up in a fight. They take the gun from you and shoot you dead. Happens everyday in America.
A toddler found a gun in his mommas purse. Shot his little brother by accident. Happens everyday in America. People are selfish and only think about themselves. They think it’ll never happen to me?
40,000 dead Americans every single years says otherwise.
So grateful the UK has very strict guns laws and T
theres zero fear of being shot from a burglar, robber or stressed commuter.
I don’t need a gun to protect my self or my family. The UK is very safe. America with guns is a dangerous place to be. 60000 to 2.5 million each year save by them. I will take those odds over the former. According to fact CDC."Not sure where you get your facts from but when the US has 38,000 deaths from guns and the UK has only 33 deaths from guns a year it’s very difficult to argue that having more guns saves more lives?? The fact you need and have access to 32 guns is a bit worrying. Everybody is susceptible to stress and mental health issues. You might be fine today but tomorrow you may be very sad or very angry or get into a road rage incident or bar fight. Squeeze of the trigger it’s all over and you or someone else is part of the 38,000 guns death. Every year. | |||
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"I would feel much safer carrying a gun.. especially if I had to visit london Give it a go, see what happens. What harm could it do?
No harm if trained right and he is confident in his skills.
Unless you get into a argument. Ends up in a fight. They take the gun from you and shoot you dead. Happens everyday in America.
A toddler found a gun in his mommas purse. Shot his little brother by accident. Happens everyday in America. People are selfish and only think about themselves. They think it’ll never happen to me?
40,000 dead Americans every single years says otherwise.
So grateful the UK has very strict guns laws and T
theres zero fear of being shot from a burglar, robber or stressed commuter.
I don’t need a gun to protect my self or my family. The UK is very safe. America with guns is a dangerous place to be. 60000 to 2.5 million each year save by them. I will take those odds over the former. According to fact CDC.
Not sure where you get your facts from but when the US has 38,000 deaths from guns and the UK has only 33 deaths from guns a year it’s very difficult to argue that having more guns saves more lives??
The fact you need and have access to 32 guns is a bit worrying. Everybody is susceptible to stress and mental health issues. You might be fine today but tomorrow you may be very sad or very angry or get into a road rage incident or bar fight. Squeeze of the trigger it’s all over and you or someone else is part of the 38,000 guns death. Every year. "And I can do it just as easily with a car or a knife. Still not a weapon issue it's a mental one. | |||
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"I would feel much safer carrying a gun.. especially if I had to visit london Give it a go, see what happens. What harm could it do?
No harm if trained right and he is confident in his skills.
Unless you get into a argument. Ends up in a fight. They take the gun from you and shoot you dead. Happens everyday in America.
A toddler found a gun in his mommas purse. Shot his little brother by accident. Happens everyday in America. People are selfish and only think about themselves. They think it’ll never happen to me?
40,000 dead Americans every single years says otherwise.
So grateful the UK has very strict guns laws and T
theres zero fear of being shot from a burglar, robber or stressed commuter.
I don’t need a gun to protect my self or my family. The UK is very safe. America with guns is a dangerous place to be. 60000 to 2.5 million each year save by them. I will take those odds over the former. According to fact CDC.
Not sure where you get your facts from but when the US has 38,000 deaths from guns and the UK has only 33 deaths from guns a year it’s very difficult to argue that having more guns saves more lives??
The fact you need and have access to 32 guns is a bit worrying. Everybody is susceptible to stress and mental health issues. You might be fine today but tomorrow you may be very sad or very angry or get into a road rage incident or bar fight. Squeeze of the trigger it’s all over and you or someone else is part of the 38,000 guns death. Every year.
And I can do it just as easily with a car or a knife. Still not a weapon issue it's a mental one.
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"I would feel much safer carrying a gun.. especially if I had to visit london Give it a go, see what happens. What harm could it do?
No harm if trained right and he is confident in his skills.
Unless you get into a argument. Ends up in a fight. They take the gun from you and shoot you dead. Happens everyday in America.
A toddler found a gun in his mommas purse. Shot his little brother by accident. Happens everyday in America. People are selfish and only think about themselves. They think it’ll never happen to me?
40,000 dead Americans every single years says otherwise.
So grateful the UK has very strict guns laws and T
theres zero fear of being shot from a burglar, robber or stressed commuter.
I don’t need a gun to protect my self or my family. The UK is very safe. America with guns is a dangerous place to be. 60000 to 2.5 million each year save by them. I will take those odds over the former. According to fact CDC.
Not sure where you get your facts from but when the US has 38,000 deaths from guns and the UK has only 33 deaths from guns a year it’s very difficult to argue that having more guns saves more lives??
The fact you need and have access to 32 guns is a bit worrying. Everybody is susceptible to stress and mental health issues. You might be fine today but tomorrow you may be very sad or very angry or get into a road rage incident or bar fight. Squeeze of the trigger it’s all over and you or someone else is part of the 38,000 guns death. Every year.
And I can do it just as easily with a car or a knife. Still not a weapon issue it's a mental one.
"those 38000 60 % are in fact suicides yet we have one of the lowest suicide rates. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate Since you love facts. I guess it's a weapon issue in all of the world too. Not a mental one | |||
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"Does anybody remember the awful event that led to the ban on handguns in the UK? I'm sure no one would wish for that to happen again. Which one… dunblane or hungerford!!! Mind you the US have had Sandy hook, the pulse nightclub in Orlando, the concert in Las Vegas, the massacre at Virginia tech, and the parklands shooting… and none of them moved the needle…. You love the specifics of 1 gun. Yet 10 times are killed every year in Chicago. Yet nothing said. Mass shootings happen almost every weekend but you focus on the "white" political correct one according to media. Why ?. Handguns kill more yet you have a habit of going to focus on what white shooters do . Yet black on black 10 fold more deaths. Let's ignore those right. Actually no…. What I was pointing out was that those mass shootings ( actually I could also have used the port Arthur massacre in Australia as another example like dunblane and hungerford) were so shocking to the public and to politicians that they actually did something that went beyond political partisanship with the greater support of the general public If kids being shot up in a mass shooting didn’t move the needle for some, then I doubt that anything actually will…" Just like many inner city shootings which triple mass shootings does not move the needle either. One gets media coverage the other dies not. Why is that? | |||
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"I stayed with a family in Penn State for a few days, a very long time ago. The host was my equivalent in the US, and I was visiting the company headquarters there. They invited me to a family dinner at their home one evening. It was an eye-opening experience for me, as they discussed their thoughts on England. It was all very polite but there was clearly a disconnect in their knowledge on a few things. They asked me about our "President" at the time, and I explained Tony Blair was a Prime Minister. I then proceeded to eviscerate him as I didn't like his politics. On my, they were shocked. I asked what was wrong, and apparently you don't "dis" the Pres. They said "You must be a Rebublican then", as they knew TB was "Democrat". I explained that I'm much further to the left than TB. Anyway, I digress. Guns. Oh yes, that came up alright. I was asked if I wanted to shoot a .44 Magnum as they had a gun safe with several weapons. I politely declined, whilst at the same time felt completely unsafe in their home with this revelation. They changed tack and said "We can go deer hunting in the morning if you want ?" I just did not understand the need to go out and kill an innocent creature. Neither of my hosts were 1 meal or more away from starvation. I politely declined again and we changed subject. I was offered to inspect the gun safe, but I knew if I agreed, things would be "brought out". I said I was tired and it was time to leave for the night. It was very bizarre. I would be very concerned living next to someone with 32 guns for many reasons. I'd be counting the days until they flip out and take the whole street out. Seriously, I'd just move. No one needs that ticking time-bomb next door. Sorry but that's how I feel." That was your choice your decision owning guns here is a right not a privilege. So killing innocent chickens fish crustaceans cattle ect. Is perfectly fine yet when we do it to keep the herds down so they do not starve is wrong. Even though we donate to homeless shelters some of the harvest. Really bizzare. | |||
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"No never!! X Once again your choice "Hopefully the choice of everyone in uk! Or god help us all! X | |||
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"I stay at the position I developed after Columbine, which was the first US mass shooting I was aware of. It's not my culture. I don't understand it. But I want no part of it." Definitely. I still remember as a kid of about nine going to France and seeing an armed police officer - made me feel awful. It was so alien. | |||
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"I stay at the position I developed after Columbine, which was the first US mass shooting I was aware of. It's not my culture. I don't understand it. But I want no part of it. Definitely. I still remember as a kid of about nine going to France and seeing an armed police officer - made me feel awful. It was so alien." I saw my first gun - which is funny, because police in my state of Australia are routinely armed, I just never looked closely - in a US airport. It was jarring and threatening (particularly as it was a giant mofo and was being held with all the care and caution with with a teenager treats their school bag) | |||
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"I stayed with a family in Penn State for a few days, a very long time ago. The host was my equivalent in the US, and I was visiting the company headquarters there. They invited me to a family dinner at their home one evening. It was an eye-opening experience for me, as they discussed their thoughts on England. It was all very polite but there was clearly a disconnect in their knowledge on a few things. They asked me about our "President" at the time, and I explained Tony Blair was a Prime Minister. I then proceeded to eviscerate him as I didn't like his politics. On my, they were shocked. I asked what was wrong, and apparently you don't "dis" the Pres. They said "You must be a Rebublican then", as they knew TB was "Democrat". I explained that I'm much further to the left than TB. Anyway, I digress. Guns. Oh yes, that came up alright. I was asked if I wanted to shoot a .44 Magnum as they had a gun safe with several weapons. I politely declined, whilst at the same time felt completely unsafe in their home with this revelation. They changed tack and said "We can go deer hunting in the morning if you want ?" I just did not understand the need to go out and kill an innocent creature. Neither of my hosts were 1 meal or more away from starvation. I politely declined again and we changed subject. I was offered to inspect the gun safe, but I knew if I agreed, things would be "brought out". I said I was tired and it was time to leave for the night. It was very bizarre. I would be very concerned living next to someone with 32 guns for many reasons. I'd be counting the days until they flip out and take the whole street out. Seriously, I'd just move. No one needs that ticking time-bomb next door. Sorry but that's how I feel. That was your choice your decision owning guns here is a right not a privilege. So killing innocent chickens fish crustaceans cattle ect. Is perfectly fine yet when we do it to keep the herds down so they do not starve is wrong. Even though we donate to homeless shelters some of the harvest. Really bizzare." What did nature do before humans started interfering in their habitats and deciding they needed to cull animals? If you leave the animals alone and restore their habitat, they'll look after themselves. | |||
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"Does anybody remember the awful event that led to the ban on handguns in the UK? I'm sure no one would wish for that to happen again. Which one… dunblane or hungerford!!! Mind you the US have had Sandy hook, the pulse nightclub in Orlando, the concert in Las Vegas, the massacre at Virginia tech, and the parklands shooting… and none of them moved the needle…. You love the specifics of 1 gun. Yet 10 times are killed every year in Chicago. Yet nothing said. Mass shootings happen almost every weekend but you focus on the "white" political correct one according to media. Why ?. Handguns kill more yet you have a habit of going to focus on what white shooters do . Yet black on black 10 fold more deaths. Let's ignore those right. Actually no…. What I was pointing out was that those mass shootings ( actually I could also have used the port Arthur massacre in Australia as another example like dunblane and hungerford) were so shocking to the public and to politicians that they actually did something that went beyond political partisanship with the greater support of the general public If kids being shot up in a mass shooting didn’t move the needle for some, then I doubt that anything actually will… Just like many inner city shootings which triple mass shootings does not move the needle either. One gets media coverage the other dies not. Why is that? " See… you want to turn it into a racial issue…. I am not going to bite… If you and to compare what happened at Dunblane, with what happened at Sandy Hook, which i think if a fair comparison…. Then one group of people decided it was beyond the pale and did something to strengthen gun laws regardless of political persuasion…. And one large group of people fought tooth and nail to prevent anything even sensible from changing….. Massacre happens in Australia… jars a nation so much that gun laws were changed…. Massacre happens in the UK…. Jars a nation so much that gun laws were changed… Columbine, Arroura, Virginia Tech, Orlando, Sandy Hook, Las Vegas, Parkland…… nothing….. and almost a pride in doing nothing…. | |||
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"Does anybody remember the awful event that led to the ban on handguns in the UK? I'm sure no one would wish for that to happen again. Which one… dunblane or hungerford!!! Mind you the US have had Sandy hook, the pulse nightclub in Orlando, the concert in Las Vegas, the massacre at Virginia tech, and the parklands shooting… and none of them moved the needle…. You love the specifics of 1 gun. Yet 10 times are killed every year in Chicago. Yet nothing said. Mass shootings happen almost every weekend but you focus on the "white" political correct one according to media. Why ?. Handguns kill more yet you have a habit of going to focus on what white shooters do . Yet black on black 10 fold more deaths. Let's ignore those right. Actually no…. What I was pointing out was that those mass shootings ( actually I could also have used the port Arthur massacre in Australia as another example like dunblane and hungerford) were so shocking to the public and to politicians that they actually did something that went beyond political partisanship with the greater support of the general public If kids being shot up in a mass shooting didn’t move the needle for some, then I doubt that anything actually will… Just like many inner city shootings which triple mass shootings does not move the needle either. One gets media coverage the other dies not. Why is that? See… you want to turn it into a racial issue…. I am not going to bite… If you and to compare what happened at Dunblane, with what happened at Sandy Hook, which i think if a fair comparison…. Then one group of people decided it was beyond the pale and did something to strengthen gun laws regardless of political persuasion…. And one large group of people fought tooth and nail to prevent anything even sensible from changing….. Massacre happens in Australia… jars a nation so much that gun laws were changed…. Massacre happens in the UK…. Jars a nation so much that gun laws were changed… Columbine, Arroura, Virginia Tech, Orlando, Sandy Hook, Las Vegas, Parkland…… nothing….. and almost a pride in doing nothing…." I am not making this a racial issue. It's factual evidence. Everyone gets uncomfortable about it. Can't address 1 problem and expect the other to disappear. | |||
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"Does anybody remember the awful event that led to the ban on handguns in the UK? I'm sure no one would wish for that to happen again. Which one… dunblane or hungerford!!! Mind you the US have had Sandy hook, the pulse nightclub in Orlando, the concert in Las Vegas, the massacre at Virginia tech, and the parklands shooting… and none of them moved the needle…. You love the specifics of 1 gun. Yet 10 times are killed every year in Chicago. Yet nothing said. Mass shootings happen almost every weekend but you focus on the "white" political correct one according to media. Why ?. Handguns kill more yet you have a habit of going to focus on what white shooters do . Yet black on black 10 fold more deaths. Let's ignore those right. Actually no…. What I was pointing out was that those mass shootings ( actually I could also have used the port Arthur massacre in Australia as another example like dunblane and hungerford) were so shocking to the public and to politicians that they actually did something that went beyond political partisanship with the greater support of the general public If kids being shot up in a mass shooting didn’t move the needle for some, then I doubt that anything actually will… Just like many inner city shootings which triple mass shootings does not move the needle either. One gets media coverage the other dies not. Why is that? See… you want to turn it into a racial issue…. I am not going to bite… If you and to compare what happened at Dunblane, with what happened at Sandy Hook, which i think if a fair comparison…. Then one group of people decided it was beyond the pale and did something to strengthen gun laws regardless of political persuasion…. And one large group of people fought tooth and nail to prevent anything even sensible from changing….. Massacre happens in Australia… jars a nation so much that gun laws were changed…. Massacre happens in the UK…. Jars a nation so much that gun laws were changed… Columbine, Arroura, Virginia Tech, Orlando, Sandy Hook, Las Vegas, Parkland…… nothing….. and almost a pride in doing nothing…. I am not making this a racial issue. It's factual evidence. Everyone gets uncomfortable about it. Can't address 1 problem and expect the other to disappear." Why are you ignoring the point about school shootings? Does it make you feel uncomfortable? | |||
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" That sounds insane considering they also have a stand your ground law which means you can shoot anyone you like and just say you felt in fear for your life. " surely that would make more sense if the wierdo's with guns shot the people they dislike instead? | |||
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"Does anybody remember the awful event that led to the ban on handguns in the UK? I'm sure no one would wish for that to happen again. Which one… dunblane or hungerford!!! Mind you the US have had Sandy hook, the pulse nightclub in Orlando, the concert in Las Vegas, the massacre at Virginia tech, and the parklands shooting… and none of them moved the needle…. You love the specifics of 1 gun. Yet 10 times are killed every year in Chicago. Yet nothing said. Mass shootings happen almost every weekend but you focus on the "white" political correct one according to media. Why ?. Handguns kill more yet you have a habit of going to focus on what white shooters do . Yet black on black 10 fold more deaths. Let's ignore those right. Actually no…. What I was pointing out was that those mass shootings ( actually I could also have used the port Arthur massacre in Australia as another example like dunblane and hungerford) were so shocking to the public and to politicians that they actually did something that went beyond political partisanship with the greater support of the general public If kids being shot up in a mass shooting didn’t move the needle for some, then I doubt that anything actually will… Just like many inner city shootings which triple mass shootings does not move the needle either. One gets media coverage the other dies not. Why is that? See… you want to turn it into a racial issue…. I am not going to bite… If you and to compare what happened at Dunblane, with what happened at Sandy Hook, which i think if a fair comparison…. Then one group of people decided it was beyond the pale and did something to strengthen gun laws regardless of political persuasion…. And one large group of people fought tooth and nail to prevent anything even sensible from changing….. Massacre happens in Australia… jars a nation so much that gun laws were changed…. Massacre happens in the UK…. Jars a nation so much that gun laws were changed… Columbine, Arroura, Virginia Tech, Orlando, Sandy Hook, Las Vegas, Parkland…… nothing….. and almost a pride in doing nothing…. I am not making this a racial issue. It's factual evidence. Everyone gets uncomfortable about it. Can't address 1 problem and expect the other to disappear. Why are you ignoring the point about school shootings? Does it make you feel uncomfortable?" Does not make me feel uncomfortable does the truth about US gun violence according to the facts make you feel uncomfortable? | |||
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"Does anybody remember the awful event that led to the ban on handguns in the UK? I'm sure no one would wish for that to happen again. Which one… dunblane or hungerford!!! Mind you the US have had Sandy hook, the pulse nightclub in Orlando, the concert in Las Vegas, the massacre at Virginia tech, and the parklands shooting… and none of them moved the needle…. You love the specifics of 1 gun. Yet 10 times are killed every year in Chicago. Yet nothing said. Mass shootings happen almost every weekend but you focus on the "white" political correct one according to media. Why ?. Handguns kill more yet you have a habit of going to focus on what white shooters do . Yet black on black 10 fold more deaths. Let's ignore those right. Actually no…. What I was pointing out was that those mass shootings ( actually I could also have used the port Arthur massacre in Australia as another example like dunblane and hungerford) were so shocking to the public and to politicians that they actually did something that went beyond political partisanship with the greater support of the general public If kids being shot up in a mass shooting didn’t move the needle for some, then I doubt that anything actually will… Just like many inner city shootings which triple mass shootings does not move the needle either. One gets media coverage the other dies not. Why is that? See… you want to turn it into a racial issue…. I am not going to bite… If you and to compare what happened at Dunblane, with what happened at Sandy Hook, which i think if a fair comparison…. Then one group of people decided it was beyond the pale and did something to strengthen gun laws regardless of political persuasion…. And one large group of people fought tooth and nail to prevent anything even sensible from changing….. Massacre happens in Australia… jars a nation so much that gun laws were changed…. Massacre happens in the UK…. Jars a nation so much that gun laws were changed… Columbine, Arroura, Virginia Tech, Orlando, Sandy Hook, Las Vegas, Parkland…… nothing….. and almost a pride in doing nothing…. I am not making this a racial issue. It's factual evidence. Everyone gets uncomfortable about it. Can't address 1 problem and expect the other to disappear. Why are you ignoring the point about school shootings? Does it make you feel uncomfortable? Does not make me feel uncomfortable does the truth about US gun violence according to the facts make you feel uncomfortable?" If I'd seen you present any truth I might be able to answer the question. | |||
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"Does anybody remember the awful event that led to the ban on handguns in the UK? I'm sure no one would wish for that to happen again. Which one… dunblane or hungerford!!! Mind you the US have had Sandy hook, the pulse nightclub in Orlando, the concert in Las Vegas, the massacre at Virginia tech, and the parklands shooting… and none of them moved the needle…. You love the specifics of 1 gun. Yet 10 times are killed every year in Chicago. Yet nothing said. Mass shootings happen almost every weekend but you focus on the "white" political correct one according to media. Why ?. Handguns kill more yet you have a habit of going to focus on what white shooters do . Yet black on black 10 fold more deaths. Let's ignore those right. Actually no…. What I was pointing out was that those mass shootings ( actually I could also have used the port Arthur massacre in Australia as another example like dunblane and hungerford) were so shocking to the public and to politicians that they actually did something that went beyond political partisanship with the greater support of the general public If kids being shot up in a mass shooting didn’t move the needle for some, then I doubt that anything actually will… Just like many inner city shootings which triple mass shootings does not move the needle either. One gets media coverage the other dies not. Why is that? See… you want to turn it into a racial issue…. I am not going to bite… If you and to compare what happened at Dunblane, with what happened at Sandy Hook, which i think if a fair comparison…. Then one group of people decided it was beyond the pale and did something to strengthen gun laws regardless of political persuasion…. And one large group of people fought tooth and nail to prevent anything even sensible from changing….. Massacre happens in Australia… jars a nation so much that gun laws were changed…. Massacre happens in the UK…. Jars a nation so much that gun laws were changed… Columbine, Arroura, Virginia Tech, Orlando, Sandy Hook, Las Vegas, Parkland…… nothing….. and almost a pride in doing nothing…. I am not making this a racial issue. It's factual evidence. Everyone gets uncomfortable about it. Can't address 1 problem and expect the other to disappear. Why are you ignoring the point about school shootings? Does it make you feel uncomfortable? Does not make me feel uncomfortable does the truth about US gun violence according to the facts make you feel uncomfortable? If I'd seen you present any truth I might be able to answer the question. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/02/23/young-black-men-teens-made-up-more-than-third-2019-gun-homicides/4559929001/ Oh. A mainstream media article. That's compelling information. I'm more used to criminological data and analysis - you got any of that?" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States | |||
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"Does anybody remember the awful event that led to the ban on handguns in the UK? I'm sure no one would wish for that to happen again. Which one… dunblane or hungerford!!! Mind you the US have had Sandy hook, the pulse nightclub in Orlando, the concert in Las Vegas, the massacre at Virginia tech, and the parklands shooting… and none of them moved the needle…. You love the specifics of 1 gun. Yet 10 times are killed every year in Chicago. Yet nothing said. Mass shootings happen almost every weekend but you focus on the "white" political correct one according to media. Why ?. Handguns kill more yet you have a habit of going to focus on what white shooters do . Yet black on black 10 fold more deaths. Let's ignore those right. Actually no…. What I was pointing out was that those mass shootings ( actually I could also have used the port Arthur massacre in Australia as another example like dunblane and hungerford) were so shocking to the public and to politicians that they actually did something that went beyond political partisanship with the greater support of the general public If kids being shot up in a mass shooting didn’t move the needle for some, then I doubt that anything actually will… Just like many inner city shootings which triple mass shootings does not move the needle either. One gets media coverage the other dies not. Why is that? See… you want to turn it into a racial issue…. I am not going to bite… If you and to compare what happened at Dunblane, with what happened at Sandy Hook, which i think if a fair comparison…. Then one group of people decided it was beyond the pale and did something to strengthen gun laws regardless of political persuasion…. And one large group of people fought tooth and nail to prevent anything even sensible from changing….. Massacre happens in Australia… jars a nation so much that gun laws were changed…. Massacre happens in the UK…. Jars a nation so much that gun laws were changed… Columbine, Arroura, Virginia Tech, Orlando, Sandy Hook, Las Vegas, Parkland…… nothing….. and almost a pride in doing nothing…. I am not making this a racial issue. It's factual evidence. Everyone gets uncomfortable about it. Can't address 1 problem and expect the other to disappear. Why are you ignoring the point about school shootings? Does it make you feel uncomfortable? Does not make me feel uncomfortable does the truth about US gun violence according to the facts make you feel uncomfortable? Still ignoring the point I see. To answer your question, when I think about gun violence in the US, I do feel uncomfortable... I feel uncomfortable about the social roots of gun crime in the black community, and I feel uncomfortable about the mentality of people like yourself who prize gun ownership over the lives of their compatriots." That is the 2 cultural differences I not giving them up being a law abiding owner. Gangs are not going to magically turn theirs in now are they. | |||
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"Does anybody remember the awful event that led to the ban on handguns in the UK? I'm sure no one would wish for that to happen again. Which one… dunblane or hungerford!!! Mind you the US have had Sandy hook, the pulse nightclub in Orlando, the concert in Las Vegas, the massacre at Virginia tech, and the parklands shooting… and none of them moved the needle…. You love the specifics of 1 gun. Yet 10 times are killed every year in Chicago. Yet nothing said. Mass shootings happen almost every weekend but you focus on the "white" political correct one according to media. Why ?. Handguns kill more yet you have a habit of going to focus on what white shooters do . Yet black on black 10 fold more deaths. Let's ignore those right. Actually no…. What I was pointing out was that those mass shootings ( actually I could also have used the port Arthur massacre in Australia as another example like dunblane and hungerford) were so shocking to the public and to politicians that they actually did something that went beyond political partisanship with the greater support of the general public If kids being shot up in a mass shooting didn’t move the needle for some, then I doubt that anything actually will… Just like many inner city shootings which triple mass shootings does not move the needle either. One gets media coverage the other dies not. Why is that? See… you want to turn it into a racial issue…. I am not going to bite… If you and to compare what happened at Dunblane, with what happened at Sandy Hook, which i think if a fair comparison…. Then one group of people decided it was beyond the pale and did something to strengthen gun laws regardless of political persuasion…. And one large group of people fought tooth and nail to prevent anything even sensible from changing….. Massacre happens in Australia… jars a nation so much that gun laws were changed…. Massacre happens in the UK…. Jars a nation so much that gun laws were changed… Columbine, Arroura, Virginia Tech, Orlando, Sandy Hook, Las Vegas, Parkland…… nothing….. and almost a pride in doing nothing…. I am not making this a racial issue. It's factual evidence. Everyone gets uncomfortable about it. Can't address 1 problem and expect the other to disappear. Why are you ignoring the point about school shootings? Does it make you feel uncomfortable? Does not make me feel uncomfortable does the truth about US gun violence according to the facts make you feel uncomfortable? Still ignoring the point I see. To answer your question, when I think about gun violence in the US, I do feel uncomfortable... I feel uncomfortable about the social roots of gun crime in the black community, and I feel uncomfortable about the mentality of people like yourself who prize gun ownership over the lives of their compatriots. That is the 2 cultural differences I not giving them up being a law abiding owner. Gangs are not going to magically turn theirs in now are they. " So putting aside your insistence on returning to black-on-black crime, when it comes to school shootings and massacres you see the cultural difference in response to a massacre? You don't ever wonder about the difference in values that it represents? | |||
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"Does anybody remember the awful event that led to the ban on handguns in the UK? I'm sure no one would wish for that to happen again. Which one… dunblane or hungerford!!! Mind you the US have had Sandy hook, the pulse nightclub in Orlando, the concert in Las Vegas, the massacre at Virginia tech, and the parklands shooting… and none of them moved the needle…. You love the specifics of 1 gun. Yet 10 times are killed every year in Chicago. Yet nothing said. Mass shootings happen almost every weekend but you focus on the "white" political correct one according to media. Why ?. Handguns kill more yet you have a habit of going to focus on what white shooters do . Yet black on black 10 fold more deaths. Let's ignore those right. Actually no…. What I was pointing out was that those mass shootings ( actually I could also have used the port Arthur massacre in Australia as another example like dunblane and hungerford) were so shocking to the public and to politicians that they actually did something that went beyond political partisanship with the greater support of the general public If kids being shot up in a mass shooting didn’t move the needle for some, then I doubt that anything actually will… Just like many inner city shootings which triple mass shootings does not move the needle either. One gets media coverage the other dies not. Why is that? See… you want to turn it into a racial issue…. I am not going to bite… If you and to compare what happened at Dunblane, with what happened at Sandy Hook, which i think if a fair comparison…. Then one group of people decided it was beyond the pale and did something to strengthen gun laws regardless of political persuasion…. And one large group of people fought tooth and nail to prevent anything even sensible from changing….. Massacre happens in Australia… jars a nation so much that gun laws were changed…. Massacre happens in the UK…. Jars a nation so much that gun laws were changed… Columbine, Arroura, Virginia Tech, Orlando, Sandy Hook, Las Vegas, Parkland…… nothing….. and almost a pride in doing nothing…. I am not making this a racial issue. It's factual evidence. Everyone gets uncomfortable about it. Can't address 1 problem and expect the other to disappear. Why are you ignoring the point about school shootings? Does it make you feel uncomfortable? Does not make me feel uncomfortable does the truth about US gun violence according to the facts make you feel uncomfortable? Still ignoring the point I see. To answer your question, when I think about gun violence in the US, I do feel uncomfortable... I feel uncomfortable about the social roots of gun crime in the black community, and I feel uncomfortable about the mentality of people like yourself who prize gun ownership over the lives of their compatriots. That is the 2 cultural differences I not giving them up being a law abiding owner. Gangs are not going to magically turn theirs in now are they. So putting aside your insistence on returning to black-on-black crime, when it comes to school shootings and massacres you see the cultural difference in response to a massacre? You don't ever wonder about the difference in values that it represents? Yes I do 0 understanding in cultural differences. I carry for personal protection. So does my husband. So I am supposed to just give that protection up just to satisfy a fallacy that criminals are going to give thiers up? Not going to happen. Since pandemic riots and social unrest gun sales soared. Then you wonder why Texas enacted the legislation. Cause and effect. Do nothing about riots and unrest then it falls on the individual rights to protect ones self and family. Trust the system it didn't work. " There was no need for texas to enact this since it is an open carry state….. i mean do you really want people who couldn’t get a licence before to now be able to get one? ……. Also… nice avoidance of the school shooting issue… which is why we explicitly compared Dunblane to Sandy Hook……. Like we said…. Columbine, Sandy hook, Virginia Tech, Parkland…….. | |||
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"My perspective being a legal gun owners. Just like millions of others. I do not expect anyone outside my life sphere to understand. Giving a glimpse on why we the way we are. Be mad if you want throw statistics like I have. Just the way we are. Rather have the protection more then ever now. Then be a statistic." No one I can see is mad - just trying to understand a mentality that prizes the right to gun ownership over the safety of kids in schools. The hostility which even the mildest gun reform proposals are met with is baffling to me. | |||
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"Does anybody remember the awful event that led to the ban on handguns in the UK? I'm sure no one would wish for that to happen again. Which one… dunblane or hungerford!!! Mind you the US have had Sandy hook, the pulse nightclub in Orlando, the concert in Las Vegas, the massacre at Virginia tech, and the parklands shooting… and none of them moved the needle…. You love the specifics of 1 gun. Yet 10 times are killed every year in Chicago. Yet nothing said. Mass shootings happen almost every weekend but you focus on the "white" political correct one according to media. Why ?. Handguns kill more yet you have a habit of going to focus on what white shooters do . Yet black on black 10 fold more deaths. Let's ignore those right. Actually no…. What I was pointing out was that those mass shootings ( actually I could also have used the port Arthur massacre in Australia as another example like dunblane and hungerford) were so shocking to the public and to politicians that they actually did something that went beyond political partisanship with the greater support of the general public If kids being shot up in a mass shooting didn’t move the needle for some, then I doubt that anything actually will… Just like many inner city shootings which triple mass shootings does not move the needle either. One gets media coverage the other dies not. Why is that? See… you want to turn it into a racial issue…. I am not going to bite… If you and to compare what happened at Dunblane, with what happened at Sandy Hook, which i think if a fair comparison…. Then one group of people decided it was beyond the pale and did something to strengthen gun laws regardless of political persuasion…. And one large group of people fought tooth and nail to prevent anything even sensible from changing….. Massacre happens in Australia… jars a nation so much that gun laws were changed…. Massacre happens in the UK…. Jars a nation so much that gun laws were changed… Columbine, Arroura, Virginia Tech, Orlando, Sandy Hook, Las Vegas, Parkland…… nothing….. and almost a pride in doing nothing…. I am not making this a racial issue. It's factual evidence. Everyone gets uncomfortable about it. Can't address 1 problem and expect the other to disappear. Why are you ignoring the point about school shootings? Does it make you feel uncomfortable? Does not make me feel uncomfortable does the truth about US gun violence according to the facts make you feel uncomfortable? Still ignoring the point I see. To answer your question, when I think about gun violence in the US, I do feel uncomfortable... I feel uncomfortable about the social roots of gun crime in the black community, and I feel uncomfortable about the mentality of people like yourself who prize gun ownership over the lives of their compatriots. That is the 2 cultural differences I not giving them up being a law abiding owner. Gangs are not going to magically turn theirs in now are they. So putting aside your insistence on returning to black-on-black crime, when it comes to school shootings and massacres you see the cultural difference in response to a massacre? You don't ever wonder about the difference in values that it represents? Yes I do 0 understanding in cultural differences. I carry for personal protection. So does my husband. So I am supposed to just give that protection up just to satisfy a fallacy that criminals are going to give thiers up? Not going to happen. Since pandemic riots and social unrest gun sales soared. Then you wonder why Texas enacted the legislation. Cause and effect. Do nothing about riots and unrest then it falls on the individual rights to protect ones self and family. Trust the system it didn't work. There was no need for texas to enact this since it is an open carry state….. i mean do you really want people who couldn’t get a licence before to now be able to get one? ……. Also… nice avoidance of the school shooting issue… which is why we explicitly compared Dunblane to Sandy Hook……. Like we said…. Columbine, Sandy hook, Virginia Tech, Parkland…….." Why are people purchasing guns at record levels. It's not just a mass shooting issue now is it ? They not all republicans buying them now are they. | |||
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