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"I fancy women, I don’t fancy men, ergo women are better looking then men. Simple maths. " Yep that’s the same answer I’d say too Great minds sausage man  | |||
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Men have only just rediscovered make up. To catch up.... | |||
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"Men don’t wear a mask of make up to attract the opposite sex so is the answer yes? "compare faces and find out lol. | |||
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"Yeah all of us women wear a ‘mask’ of make up along with our ‘cheating’ wonderbras solely to attract men. Because obviously that’s our ultimate goal in life! To look good for men! Couldn’t possibly be that’s it’s for US - to make ourselves feel good
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" And let's face it, if men's make up became mainstream.. you guys would all be doing it too! "Absolutely. I've often asked people, to nonplussed looks in return, what a make up routine for men would look like. Presumably it'd be intended to look stronger, more powerful, so what would that be? | |||
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"To be fair some men also need make up to attract the opposite sex!!" Oi! Don't bash it for me, it works far better than it does being a plain old man | |||
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"To be fair some men also need make up to attract the opposite sex!! Oi! Don't bash it for me, it works far better than it does being a plain old man "haha and some men suit it better than some women | |||
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" And let's face it, if men's make up became mainstream.. you guys would all be doing it too!
Absolutely. I've often asked people, to nonplussed looks in return, what a make up routine for men would look like. Presumably it'd be intended to look stronger, more powerful, so what would that be? "A lot of men do wear makeup to varying degrees. For some it's simple foundation to even out skin tone and some lip gloss, others it's more. | |||
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" And let's face it, if men's make up became mainstream.. you guys would all be doing it too!
Absolutely. I've often asked people, to nonplussed looks in return, what a make up routine for men would look like. Presumably it'd be intended to look stronger, more powerful, so what would that be?
A lot of men do wear makeup to varying degrees. For some it's simple foundation to even out skin tone and some lip gloss, others it's more. "I guess so. I just expect there could be an alternative universe where I have 10 different tubes of coloured goos and pastes that I deem somehow essential before I go out the door. I'm guessing they'd be to make me look as much like Jason Momoa as possible. Maybe I'd need 20! | |||
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"I used to wear nail varniah and mascara in my '80s 'rock god' days - for myself but it did attract a few women (who were all jealous of my naturally blonde wavy hair). I can appreciate the aesthetics of anybody but find women, from a sexual point of view, more physically attractive than men. But personality can decrease or increase attractiveness for me and I don't always find what is society's view of physical desirability desirable. In my experience physical attractiveness is not a good indicator of sexual compatibility." Seen my pic like that? Still think of resurrecting it at times! | |||
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"I fancy women, I don’t fancy men, ergo women are better looking then men. Simple maths. Yep that’s the same answer I’d say too Great minds sausage man "Behave! You fancy me!!! | |||
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"If you wear make up and other accessories to make your self feel better and look presentable, you're trying to tart up to attract men. If you be natural and don't conform to societal ideas of beauty, you’re some troll who’ll never get a fella. Its not all about men. Tired of the men vs women crap. Its not healthy. " | |||
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"If you wear make up and other accessories to make your self feel better and look presentable, you're trying to tart up to attract men. If you be natural and don't conform to societal ideas of beauty, you’re some troll who’ll never get a fella. Its not all about men. Tired of the men vs women crap. Its not healthy. " Agreed! I wear it because I want to, and it’s not a mask, it enhances, it doesn’t cover. | |||
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"I used to wear nail varniah and mascara in my '80s 'rock god' days - for myself but it did attract a few women (who were all jealous of my naturally blonde wavy hair). I can appreciate the aesthetics of anybody but find women, from a sexual point of view, more physically attractive than men. But personality can decrease or increase attractiveness for me and I don't always find what is society's view of physical desirability desirable. In my experience physical attractiveness is not a good indicator of sexual compatibility. Seen my pic like that? Still think of resurrecting it at times! " Just had a look
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"I used to wear nail varniah and mascara in my '80s 'rock god' days - for myself but it did attract a few women (who were all jealous of my naturally blonde wavy hair). I can appreciate the aesthetics of anybody but find women, from a sexual point of view, more physically attractive than men. But personality can decrease or increase attractiveness for me and I don't always find what is society's view of physical desirability desirable. In my experience physical attractiveness is not a good indicator of sexual compatibility. Seen my pic like that? Still think of resurrecting it at times! " Oooh guyliner!  | |||
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"Unfortunately, there are people in the world who judge people on how good they do their make up, or how well they use filters and photo-shop. " Because of years of media pressure telling us what we need to look like. | |||
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"No person is attractive unless another person thinks them so. " But aren't there societal attravtiveness 'norms' which may influence someone's idea of attravtiveness? | |||
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"No person is attractive unless another person thinks them so. " Deep  | |||
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"I used to wear nail varniah and mascara in my '80s 'rock god' days - for myself but it did attract a few women (who were all jealous of my naturally blonde wavy hair). I can appreciate the aesthetics of anybody but find women, from a sexual point of view, more physically attractive than men. But personality can decrease or increase attractiveness for me and I don't always find what is society's view of physical desirability desirable. In my experience physical attractiveness is not a good indicator of sexual compatibility. Seen my pic like that? Still think of resurrecting it at times! Oooh guyliner! "Boots no. 7 if I recall correctly! My nail varnish was usue "morticia" | |||
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"Makeup enhances features not mask them " | |||
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"Makeup enhances features not mask them "Media has always told us how we should look to be attractive. | |||
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"Men don’t wear a mask of make up to attract the opposite sex so is the answer yes? "Men lie to attract the opposite sex. They grovel, they write confrontational forum threads. I prefer women that don’t wear lots of makeup, but personality is what attracts me and keeps me interested, whichever gender they are. | |||
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"Makeup enhances features not mask them "I'm not in the "hate make up" camp, as has been said above its about you feeling good about yourself, and that is the part that matters regardless. But let's not kid ourselves, it is used to cover up and mask just as much as it enhances - not directly as the OP implies though. Bad skin days, acne/scars etc. | |||
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"Men don’t wear a mask of make up to attract the opposite sex so is the answer yes? "Your logic is infallible! | |||
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"No person is attractive unless another person thinks them so. But aren't there societal attravtiveness 'norms' which may influence someone's idea of attravtiveness?" Scientific = the symmetry of faces etc. Societal/cultural experiences do influence. As do traumas and early experiences which become hard wired. Most people find others attractive without knowing why. None of that changes what I said tho. Unless another finds you attractive - you are not attractive. Attraction needs two bodies. Like planets, magnets etc...... | |||
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"I’d say women because they rely on beauty to attract a mate where as men don’t. So women have been evolving for millions of years specifically to enhance beauty " I'd say. No. | |||
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"I’d say women because they rely on beauty to attract a mate where as men don’t. So women have been evolving for millions of years specifically to enhance beauty " The idea of beauty changes so often though, evolution couldn't keep up with it. | |||
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"A pig in lipstick is a pig in lipstick. Over to Betty Boobs for the weather." Damn. Should I add mascara? | |||
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"I’d say women because they rely on beauty to attract a mate where as men don’t. So women have been evolving for millions of years specifically to enhance beauty The idea of beauty changes so often though, evolution couldn't keep up with it. " It's fashion , it sells , it's very little to do with women these days and more to do with industry and the 'arrrtteeeessssts' that fool the gullible. | |||
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"I look way better with make up. I wear at least lipstick every day. I don't know if men are better looking than me when I've got it on though." I look a good bit better with a little powder on so I won’t lie. An old fwb bought me a little tub and if I’m going out I’ll brush a little on. Less is more and I find it just evens stuff out. Good makeup shouldn’t be noticed. | |||
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"A pig in lipstick is a pig in lipstick. Over to Betty Boobs for the weather. Damn. Should I add mascara? " Ha! Not you you daft duck. You do know that red lippy is supposed to be a labia imitation to fool men ....... If you are going to go out in Lippy don't be moaning if someone calls you fanny face and tries to kiss you. | |||
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"I’d say women because they rely on beauty to attract a mate where as men don’t. So women have been evolving for millions of years specifically to enhance beauty The idea of beauty changes so often though, evolution couldn't keep up with it. " The standard stuff can though, the main stuff. Feminine features, fave symmetry, hip to waist ratio. These things are hard wired in. So much so that studies have been done on blind from birth men and even with only touch they can pick the most symmetrical face, the more prefer hip to waist ratio. We’re creatures of design at the end of the day. | |||
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"I’d say women because they rely on beauty to attract a mate where as men don’t. So women have been evolving for millions of years specifically to enhance beauty " Men don't rely on beauty to attract mates? Really? They don't work out to get all buff and shit to attract mates? They don't spend thousands of pounds on grooming themselves each years (one of the fastest growing industries I believe). How many threads do we see where men bemoan the fact that they are not adinis like men and so no one wants to touch their peepee? Yes, yes..... Not all men but then not all women | |||
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"I’d say women because they rely on beauty to attract a mate where as men don’t. So women have been evolving for millions of years specifically to enhance beauty The idea of beauty changes so often though, evolution couldn't keep up with it. The standard stuff can though, the main stuff. Feminine features, fave symmetry, hip to waist ratio. These things are hard wired in. So much so that studies have been done on blind from birth men and even with only touch they can pick the most symmetrical face, the more prefer hip to waist ratio. We’re creatures of design at the end of the day. " Are they though? There was a time when plump women were all the rage (I can't spell the word but there's loads of paintings of plump women lol). Marlyn Monroe was once considered the sexiest woman alive, today's she's be called fat.... Pretty but fat. A few years ago it was all about size 0 supermodels, now maybe a size 10 will do. | |||
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"I’d say women because they rely on beauty to attract a mate where as men don’t. So women have been evolving for millions of years specifically to enhance beauty Men don't rely on beauty to attract mates? Really? They don't work out to get all buff and shit to attract mates? They don't spend thousands of pounds on grooming themselves each years (one of the fastest growing industries I believe). How many threads do we see where men bemoan the fact that they are not adinis like men and so no one wants to touch their peepee? Yes, yes..... Not all men but then not all women "Women more so Evolutionaly women evolved to attract via physical beauty Men evolved to attract through social hierarchy, ability to provide and protect etc | |||
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"Depends on who doing the looking. Men are men, you get what you see usually (but not always), if you are a 5 or a 6 then usually you will say that way. A bit of gym work and you can move up, but how you look is how you look. Women are able to take themselves up levels with nice makeup, fake tan, nice underwear etc, a natural 5-6 can easily got to a 7. Add in some beauty treatments and they are a 8-9. The question is, which do you prefer, id take the made up, sexy underwear wearing women anyway, who gives a fuck what they look like naturally. However for a meet or even more, I’d take a mature, sexually liberal, horny lady over anyone no matter what their visual attractiveness is, I would find that a hell of a lot more attractive." But surely that says way more about men's perception of beauty than it does anything else. If men have such a moveable scale, why are women labelled as cheating in the beauty stakes? | |||
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"I’d say women because they rely on beauty to attract a mate where as men don’t. So women have been evolving for millions of years specifically to enhance beauty The idea of beauty changes so often though, evolution couldn't keep up with it. The standard stuff can though, the main stuff. Feminine features, fave symmetry, hip to waist ratio. These things are hard wired in. So much so that studies have been done on blind from birth men and even with only touch they can pick the most symmetrical face, the more prefer hip to waist ratio. We’re creatures of design at the end of the day. Are they though? There was a time when plump women were all the rage (I can't spell the word but there's loads of paintings of plump women lol). Marlyn Monroe was once considered the sexiest woman alive, today's she's be called fat.... Pretty but fat. A few years ago it was all about size 0 supermodels, now maybe a size 10 will do. " Popular in mainstream media doesn’t = what men liked. I think it’s pretty fairly consistent with what guys like tnough tout history and lots of it seems to share certain ratios across different sized women | |||
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"I’d say women because they rely on beauty to attract a mate where as men don’t. So women have been evolving for millions of years specifically to enhance beauty Men don't rely on beauty to attract mates? Really? They don't work out to get all buff and shit to attract mates? They don't spend thousands of pounds on grooming themselves each years (one of the fastest growing industries I believe). How many threads do we see where men bemoan the fact that they are not adinis like men and so no one wants to touch their peepee? Yes, yes..... Not all men but then not all women
Women more so
Evolutionaly women evolved to attract via physical beauty
Men evolved to attract through social hierarchy, ability to provide and protect etc "I wonder why humans evolved in such a way when in other species its often the male that displays more brightly. | |||
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"I’d say women because they rely on beauty to attract a mate where as men don’t. So women have been evolving for millions of years specifically to enhance beauty Men don't rely on beauty to attract mates? Really? They don't work out to get all buff and shit to attract mates? They don't spend thousands of pounds on grooming themselves each years (one of the fastest growing industries I believe). How many threads do we see where men bemoan the fact that they are not adinis like men and so no one wants to touch their peepee? Yes, yes..... Not all men but then not all women
Women more so
Evolutionaly women evolved to attract via physical beauty
Men evolved to attract through social hierarchy, ability to provide and protect etc
I wonder why humans evolved in such a way when in other species its often the male that displays more brightly. "I’ve read different theories in books, I’d struggle to explain them here, but it’s very interesting stuff. | |||
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"Depends on who doing the looking. Men are men, you get what you see usually (but not always), if you are a 5 or a 6 then usually you will say that way. A bit of gym work and you can move up, but how you look is how you look. Women are able to take themselves up levels with nice makeup, fake tan, nice underwear etc, a natural 5-6 can easily got to a 7. Add in some beauty treatments and they are a 8-9. The question is, which do you prefer, id take the made up, sexy underwear wearing women anyway, who gives a fuck what they look like naturally. However for a meet or even more, I’d take a mature, sexually liberal, horny lady over anyone no matter what their visual attractiveness is, I would find that a hell of a lot more attractive." Make up is an option for men too. It's not exclusive to just women. Men are just and every bit as capable of "faking ourselves up" to compete with them, but we don't. They have that kind of advantage, because we as a society look down upon men in make up, thus removing ourselves from a more level playing field within that department. One major difference is that men are much more visually focused than women, so make up etc has a larger impact for a man. | |||
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"I’d say women because they rely on beauty to attract a mate where as men don’t. So women have been evolving for millions of years specifically to enhance beauty The idea of beauty changes so often though, evolution couldn't keep up with it. The standard stuff can though, the main stuff. Feminine features, fave symmetry, hip to waist ratio. These things are hard wired in. So much so that studies have been done on blind from birth men and even with only touch they can pick the most symmetrical face, the more prefer hip to waist ratio. We’re creatures of design at the end of the day. Are they though? There was a time when plump women were all the rage (I can't spell the word but there's loads of paintings of plump women lol). Marlyn Monroe was once considered the sexiest woman alive, today's she's be called fat.... Pretty but fat. A few years ago it was all about size 0 supermodels, now maybe a size 10 will do. Popular in mainstream media doesn’t = what men liked. I think it’s pretty fairly consistent with what guys like tnough tout history and lots of it seems to share certain ratios across different sized women " Any references to your thoughts? Mainstream usually indicates high interactions so why would something men don't like appear in popular mainstream media? | |||
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"I’d say women because they rely on beauty to attract a mate where as men don’t. So women have been evolving for millions of years specifically to enhance beauty Men don't rely on beauty to attract mates? Really? They don't work out to get all buff and shit to attract mates? They don't spend thousands of pounds on grooming themselves each years (one of the fastest growing industries I believe). How many threads do we see where men bemoan the fact that they are not adinis like men and so no one wants to touch their peepee? Yes, yes..... Not all men but then not all women
Women more so
Evolutionaly women evolved to attract via physical beauty
Men evolved to attract through social hierarchy, ability to provide and protect etc "I'd appreciate a pointer to reading about the above theories on evolution. | |||
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"I look way better with make up. I wear at least lipstick every day. I don't know if men are better looking than me when I've got it on though. I look a good bit better with a little powder on so I won’t lie. An old fwb bought me a little tub and if I’m going out I’ll brush a little on. Less is more and I find it just evens stuff out. Good makeup shouldn’t be noticed." I'm going to disagree with you there. I find some very noticeable make up looks really great. I think it depends on why the observer thinks the person is wearing it. I don't assume that a woman is wearing makeup to attract men, I know some might be but loads of us aren't. I'm as straight as a person can be but I love really heavy eye makeup on some women and men, huge false eyelashes, dark shadow etc. I'm also a big fan of scarlet lips. There is nothing sexual about it nor do I believe it makes the wearer more or less beautiful, I just like it. | |||
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"I’d say women because they rely on beauty to attract a mate where as men don’t. So women have been evolving for millions of years specifically to enhance beauty The idea of beauty changes so often though, evolution couldn't keep up with it. The standard stuff can though, the main stuff. Feminine features, fave symmetry, hip to waist ratio. These things are hard wired in. So much so that studies have been done on blind from birth men and even with only touch they can pick the most symmetrical face, the more prefer hip to waist ratio. We’re creatures of design at the end of the day. Are they though? There was a time when plump women were all the rage (I can't spell the word but there's loads of paintings of plump women lol). Marlyn Monroe was once considered the sexiest woman alive, today's she's be called fat.... Pretty but fat. A few years ago it was all about size 0 supermodels, now maybe a size 10 will do. Popular in mainstream media doesn’t = what men liked. I think it’s pretty fairly consistent with what guys like tnough tout history and lots of it seems to share certain ratios across different sized women Any references to your thoughts? Mainstream usually indicates high interactions so why would something men don't like appear in popular mainstream media? " Most media isn’t reflective of what the majority want, it’s often a small group that push an idea or style or whatever and the rest just go along for the ride. That’s how I feel it is. | |||
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"A pig in lipstick is a pig in lipstick. Over to Betty Boobs for the weather. Damn. Should I add mascara? Ha! Not you you daft duck. You do know that red lippy is supposed to be a labia imitation to fool men ....... If you are going to go out in Lippy don't be moaning if someone calls you fanny face and tries to kiss you." Was that what they were shouting when I walked past the building site? I thought they were saying funny face. I'm wearing green lipstick next time I go out...  | |||
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"A pig in lipstick is a pig in lipstick. Over to Betty Boobs for the weather." Talking of the news and weather, you never see an unattractive woman doing either of them. Male newsreaders can be as plain as day, but the women have to be made up and looking good for their close up Mr DeMille. Except Kate Adie in a war zone. Over to you Kate, keep your pretty head down darling. | |||
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"I look way better with make up. I wear at least lipstick every day. I don't know if men are better looking than me when I've got it on though. I look a good bit better with a little powder on so I won’t lie. An old fwb bought me a little tub and if I’m going out I’ll brush a little on. Less is more and I find it just evens stuff out. Good makeup shouldn’t be noticed. I'm going to disagree with you there. I find some very noticeable make up looks really great. I think it depends on why the observer thinks the person is wearing it. I don't assume that a woman is wearing makeup to attract men, I know some might be but loads of us aren't. I'm as straight as a person can be but I love really heavy eye makeup on some women and men, huge false eyelashes, dark shadow etc. I'm also a big fan of scarlet lips. There is nothing sexual about it nor do I believe it makes the wearer more or less beautiful, I just like it. " Make up is an art form now. | |||
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"I’d say women because they rely on beauty to attract a mate where as men don’t. So women have been evolving for millions of years specifically to enhance beauty Men don't rely on beauty to attract mates? Really? They don't work out to get all buff and shit to attract mates? They don't spend thousands of pounds on grooming themselves each years (one of the fastest growing industries I believe). How many threads do we see where men bemoan the fact that they are not adinis like men and so no one wants to touch their peepee? Yes, yes..... Not all men but then not all women
Women more so
Evolutionaly women evolved to attract via physical beauty
Men evolved to attract through social hierarchy, ability to provide and protect etc
I'd appreciate a pointer to reading about the above theories on evolution.
"Start with the selfish gene by Richard Dawkins to get a firm understanding of how genes and evolution work. He also did a great book on memes called Virus of the mind which is worth a read | |||
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"A pig in lipstick is a pig in lipstick. Over to Betty Boobs for the weather. Talking of the news and weather, you never see an unattractive woman doing either of them. Male newsreaders can be as plain as day, but the women have to be made up and looking good for their close up Mr DeMille. Except Kate Adie in a war zone. Over to you Kate, keep your pretty head down darling." I always found Kate Adie much more attractive. Think it was the combat fatigues. | |||
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"I look way better with make up. I wear at least lipstick every day. I don't know if men are better looking than me when I've got it on though. I look a good bit better with a little powder on so I won’t lie. An old fwb bought me a little tub and if I’m going out I’ll brush a little on. Less is more and I find it just evens stuff out. Good makeup shouldn’t be noticed. I'm going to disagree with you there. I find some very noticeable make up looks really great. I think it depends on why the observer thinks the person is wearing it. I don't assume that a woman is wearing makeup to attract men, I know some might be but loads of us aren't. I'm as straight as a person can be but I love really heavy eye makeup on some women and men, huge false eyelashes, dark shadow etc. I'm also a big fan of scarlet lips. There is nothing sexual about it nor do I believe it makes the wearer more or less beautiful, I just like it. " Yeah you know what, your right. The bright eye shadow, fake lashes, unbelievable the red lipstick. All very sexy | |||
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"I’d say women because they rely on beauty to attract a mate where as men don’t. So women have been evolving for millions of years specifically to enhance beauty The idea of beauty changes so often though, evolution couldn't keep up with it. The standard stuff can though, the main stuff. Feminine features, fave symmetry, hip to waist ratio. These things are hard wired in. So much so that studies have been done on blind from birth men and even with only touch they can pick the most symmetrical face, the more prefer hip to waist ratio. We’re creatures of design at the end of the day. Are they though? There was a time when plump women were all the rage (I can't spell the word but there's loads of paintings of plump women lol). Marlyn Monroe was once considered the sexiest woman alive, today's she's be called fat.... Pretty but fat. A few years ago it was all about size 0 supermodels, now maybe a size 10 will do. Popular in mainstream media doesn’t = what men liked. I think it’s pretty fairly consistent with what guys like tnough tout history and lots of it seems to share certain ratios across different sized women Any references to your thoughts? Mainstream usually indicates high interactions so why would something men don't like appear in popular mainstream media? Most media isn’t reflective of what the majority want, it’s often a small group that push an idea or style or whatever and the rest just go along for the ride. That’s how I feel it is. " Ah. So in your opinion popular mainstream beauty ideals are not popular... Got it | |||
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"I look way better with make up. I wear at least lipstick every day. I don't know if men are better looking than me when I've got it on though. I look a good bit better with a little powder on so I won’t lie. An old fwb bought me a little tub and if I’m going out I’ll brush a little on. Less is more and I find it just evens stuff out. Good makeup shouldn’t be noticed. I'm going to disagree with you there. I find some very noticeable make up looks really great. I think it depends on why the observer thinks the person is wearing it. I don't assume that a woman is wearing makeup to attract men, I know some might be but loads of us aren't. I'm as straight as a person can be but I love really heavy eye makeup on some women and men, huge false eyelashes, dark shadow etc. I'm also a big fan of scarlet lips. There is nothing sexual about it nor do I believe it makes the wearer more or less beautiful, I just like it. Make up is an art form now. " It is and I don't know if I'm alone in this but I know that a person isn't going to look the same when they remove it. | |||
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"I’d say women because they rely on beauty to attract a mate where as men don’t. So women have been evolving for millions of years specifically to enhance beauty The idea of beauty changes so often though, evolution couldn't keep up with it. The standard stuff can though, the main stuff. Feminine features, fave symmetry, hip to waist ratio. These things are hard wired in. So much so that studies have been done on blind from birth men and even with only touch they can pick the most symmetrical face, the more prefer hip to waist ratio. We’re creatures of design at the end of the day. Are they though? There was a time when plump women were all the rage (I can't spell the word but there's loads of paintings of plump women lol). Marlyn Monroe was once considered the sexiest woman alive, today's she's be called fat.... Pretty but fat. A few years ago it was all about size 0 supermodels, now maybe a size 10 will do. Popular in mainstream media doesn’t = what men liked. I think it’s pretty fairly consistent with what guys like tnough tout history and lots of it seems to share certain ratios across different sized women Any references to your thoughts? Mainstream usually indicates high interactions so why would something men don't like appear in popular mainstream media? Most media isn’t reflective of what the majority want, it’s often a small group that push an idea or style or whatever and the rest just go along for the ride. That’s how I feel it is. Ah. So in your opinion popular mainstream beauty ideals are not popular... Got it "They’re forced popularity. Read virus of the kind by Richard Dawkins | |||
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"And hands up I'll be the first to admit I look better with makeup than without, but it still doesn't mean I wear it purely to attract someone " I’ve learned this recently. I look better with a little powder, but I still put it on even if I’m out with the guys because it makes me feel more comfortable | |||
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"And hands up I'll be the first to admit I look better with makeup than without, but it still doesn't mean I wear it purely to attract someone I’ve learned this recently. I look better with a little powder, but I still put it on even if I’m out with the guys because it makes me feel more comfortable " Ooh I like this! Is it just like a foundation powder? | |||
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"And hands up I'll be the first to admit I look better with makeup than without, but it still doesn't mean I wear it purely to attract someone I’ve learned this recently. I look better with a little powder, but I still put it on even if I’m out with the guys because it makes me feel more comfortable Ooh I like this! Is it just like a foundation powder? " My last girl got it so I don’t know, it’s a little round tin with a little like sponge pad in it, I just rub a little bit of that on and it evens up my awful Irish skin tone | |||
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"I’d say women because they rely on beauty to attract a mate where as men don’t. So women have been evolving for millions of years specifically to enhance beauty Men don't rely on beauty to attract mates? Really? They don't work out to get all buff and shit to attract mates? They don't spend thousands of pounds on grooming themselves each years (one of the fastest growing industries I believe). How many threads do we see where men bemoan the fact that they are not adinis like men and so no one wants to touch their peepee? Yes, yes..... Not all men but then not all women
Women more so
Evolutionaly women evolved to attract via physical beauty
Men evolved to attract through social hierarchy, ability to provide and protect etc
I'd appreciate a pointer to reading about the above theories on evolution.
Start with the selfish gene by Richard Dawkins to get a firm understanding of how genes and evolution work. He also did a great book on memes called Virus of the mind which is worth a read "Thanks. I've read Dawkins but I asked for pointers to what you quote re evolution. | |||
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"I’d say women because they rely on beauty to attract a mate where as men don’t. So women have been evolving for millions of years specifically to enhance beauty Men don't rely on beauty to attract mates? Really? They don't work out to get all buff and shit to attract mates? They don't spend thousands of pounds on grooming themselves each years (one of the fastest growing industries I believe). How many threads do we see where men bemoan the fact that they are not adinis like men and so no one wants to touch their peepee? Yes, yes..... Not all men but then not all women
Women more so
Evolutionaly women evolved to attract via physical beauty
Men evolved to attract through social hierarchy, ability to provide and protect etc
I'd appreciate a pointer to reading about the above theories on evolution.
Start with the selfish gene by Richard Dawkins to get a firm understanding of how genes and evolution work. He also did a great book on memes called Virus of the mind which is worth a read
Thanks. I've read Dawkins but I asked for pointers to what you quote re evolution.
"I’ve got books at home I can’t remember the name of, endless podcasts I could probably find, but I’m not gonna paraphrase countless hours of reading and listening as I’ll do the authors a disservice. You’re welcome to just disagree | |||
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"Men, worried that a lack of make-up is going to ruin your chances with the opposite sex? Try the new Fever Tree face rug! The stick on beard will give you that lumbersexual appeal without the bothersome routine of not shaving. Add on top the Fever Tree approved chest enhancing fuzzy feel Pec rug, and you'll be knee deep in clunge in no time. *Fever Tree is in no way responsible for the quality of rug purchased." Can confirm, not shaving is hard, it eats up a lot of my day. Good product | |||
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"Men, worried that a lack of make-up is going to ruin your chances with the opposite sex? Try the new Fever Tree face rug! The stick on beard will give you that lumbersexual appeal without the bothersome routine of not shaving. Add on top the Fever Tree approved chest enhancing fuzzy feel Pec rug, and you'll be knee deep in clunge in no time. *Fever Tree is in no way responsible for the quality of rug purchased." What shades do they come in ? | |||
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"Men, worried that a lack of make-up is going to ruin your chances with the opposite sex? Try the new Fever Tree face rug! The stick on beard will give you that lumbersexual appeal without the bothersome routine of not shaving. Add on top the Fever Tree approved chest enhancing fuzzy feel Pec rug, and you'll be knee deep in clunge in no time. *Fever Tree is in no way responsible for the quality of rug purchased. What shades do they come in ?" I have the George Clungedeep salt and pepper grey. The Daniel Craigslist Bond Blond. The Philip Ginclub Silver Fox. The Ed Sheerpants Ginger Special Brew. | |||
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"I’d say women because they rely on beauty to attract a mate where as men don’t. So women have been evolving for millions of years specifically to enhance beauty Men don't rely on beauty to attract mates? Really? They don't work out to get all buff and shit to attract mates? They don't spend thousands of pounds on grooming themselves each years (one of the fastest growing industries I believe). How many threads do we see where men bemoan the fact that they are not adinis like men and so no one wants to touch their peepee? Yes, yes..... Not all men but then not all women
Women more so
Evolutionaly women evolved to attract via physical beauty
Men evolved to attract through social hierarchy, ability to provide and protect etc
I'd appreciate a pointer to reading about the above theories on evolution.
Start with the selfish gene by Richard Dawkins to get a firm understanding of how genes and evolution work. He also did a great book on memes called Virus of the mind which is worth a read
Thanks. I've read Dawkins but I asked for pointers to what you quote re evolution.
"I thought men evolved to like things like wider hips as they are signs of fertility. Facial symmetry in both sexes is another evolved attractive feature as it's a sign of health and asymmetry is an indicator of something going wrong at a key developmental stage. But this applies to both genders not women specifically. One theory is that faces that display less damage by free radicals after sun damage for example are more attractive and appear more youthful. So I guess make can help disguise signs of aging. | |||
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"I’d say women because they rely on beauty to attract a mate where as men don’t. So women have been evolving for millions of years specifically to enhance beauty Men don't rely on beauty to attract mates? Really? They don't work out to get all buff and shit to attract mates? They don't spend thousands of pounds on grooming themselves each years (one of the fastest growing industries I believe). How many threads do we see where men bemoan the fact that they are not adinis like men and so no one wants to touch their peepee? Yes, yes..... Not all men but then not all women
Women more so
Evolutionaly women evolved to attract via physical beauty
Men evolved to attract through social hierarchy, ability to provide and protect etc
I'd appreciate a pointer to reading about the above theories on evolution.
Start with the selfish gene by Richard Dawkins to get a firm understanding of how genes and evolution work. He also did a great book on memes called Virus of the mind which is worth a read
Thanks. I've read Dawkins but I asked for pointers to what you quote re evolution.
I thought men evolved to like things like wider hips as they are signs of fertility. Facial symmetry in both sexes is another evolved attractive feature as it's a sign of health and asymmetry is an indicator of something going wrong at a key developmental stage. But this applies to both genders not women specifically.
One theory is that faces that display less damage by free radicals after sun damage for example are more attractive and appear more youthful. So I guess make can help disguise signs of aging. "Yeah. So I guess what we call “attractive” is what our genes call “good baby making skills”. Guys love young looking women with certain hip to waist ratio because it’s a sign they’re very fertile. Women love popular confident successful men because it’s a sign that he can provide for and protect that baby. Evolution is crazy. If a wasp can learn through evolution to know it needs to find a spider to lay its eggs in, without anyone telling it, just imagine the crazy hard wired things we have in our complex brains Very interesting | |||
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"I’d say women because they rely on beauty to attract a mate where as men don’t. So women have been evolving for millions of years specifically to enhance beauty Men don't rely on beauty to attract mates? Really? They don't work out to get all buff and shit to attract mates? They don't spend thousands of pounds on grooming themselves each years (one of the fastest growing industries I believe). How many threads do we see where men bemoan the fact that they are not adinis like men and so no one wants to touch their peepee? Yes, yes..... Not all men but then not all women
Women more so
Evolutionaly women evolved to attract via physical beauty
Men evolved to attract through social hierarchy, ability to provide and protect etc
I'd appreciate a pointer to reading about the above theories on evolution.
Start with the selfish gene by Richard Dawkins to get a firm understanding of how genes and evolution work. He also did a great book on memes called Virus of the mind which is worth a read
Thanks. I've read Dawkins but I asked for pointers to what you quote re evolution.
I thought men evolved to like things like wider hips as they are signs of fertility. Facial symmetry in both sexes is another evolved attractive feature as it's a sign of health and asymmetry is an indicator of something going wrong at a key developmental stage. But this applies to both genders not women specifically.
One theory is that faces that display less damage by free radicals after sun damage for example are more attractive and appear more youthful. So I guess make can help disguise signs of aging.
Yeah. So I guess what we call “attractive” is what our genes call “good baby making skills”.
Guys love young looking women with certain hip to waist ratio because it’s a sign they’re very fertile.
Women love popular confident successful men because it’s a sign that he can provide for and protect that baby.
Evolution is crazy. If a wasp can learn through evolution to know it needs to find a spider to lay its eggs in, without anyone telling it, just imagine the crazy hard wired things we have in our complex brains
Very interesting "I think in previous generations attraction was based on the perceived fertility of both genders. And the ability of males to provide a stable environment. But I don't think it's as clear cut these days. We had the 90's where being waif thin with no hips was all the rage. And I think many women are changing what they look for in a mate, men who are looking to take a more active role in child rearing are more attractive rather than just seen as bread winners. There is definitely a nature versus nurture debate to be had with attractiveness. | |||
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"I’d say women because they rely on beauty to attract a mate where as men don’t. So women have been evolving for millions of years specifically to enhance beauty Men don't rely on beauty to attract mates? Really? They don't work out to get all buff and shit to attract mates? They don't spend thousands of pounds on grooming themselves each years (one of the fastest growing industries I believe). How many threads do we see where men bemoan the fact that they are not adinis like men and so no one wants to touch their peepee? Yes, yes..... Not all men but then not all women
Women more so
Evolutionaly women evolved to attract via physical beauty
Men evolved to attract through social hierarchy, ability to provide and protect etc
I'd appreciate a pointer to reading about the above theories on evolution.
Start with the selfish gene by Richard Dawkins to get a firm understanding of how genes and evolution work. He also did a great book on memes called Virus of the mind which is worth a read
Thanks. I've read Dawkins but I asked for pointers to what you quote re evolution.
I thought men evolved to like things like wider hips as they are signs of fertility. Facial symmetry in both sexes is another evolved attractive feature as it's a sign of health and asymmetry is an indicator of something going wrong at a key developmental stage. But this applies to both genders not women specifically.
One theory is that faces that display less damage by free radicals after sun damage for example are more attractive and appear more youthful. So I guess make can help disguise signs of aging.
Yeah. So I guess what we call “attractive” is what our genes call “good baby making skills”.
Guys love young looking women with certain hip to waist ratio because it’s a sign they’re very fertile.
Women love popular confident successful men because it’s a sign that he can provide for and protect that baby.
Evolution is crazy. If a wasp can learn through evolution to know it needs to find a spider to lay its eggs in, without anyone telling it, just imagine the crazy hard wired things we have in our complex brains
Very interesting
I think in previous generations attraction was based on the perceived fertility of both genders. And the ability of males to provide a stable environment.
But I don't think it's as clear cut these days. We had the 90's where being waif thin with no hips was all the rage. And I think many women are changing what they look for in a mate, men who are looking to take a more active role in child rearing are more attractive rather than just seen as bread winners. There is definitely a nature versus nurture debate to be had with attractiveness. "I think that’s where memetics and Richard Dawkins virus of the mind cone into play. We’ve evolved these brains so complex and powerful that we can try to over ride naturally instincts. We should all be baby making machines as soon as we become fertile, yet many people hold off until the time is right. Many go into their 30s/40s still not wanting kids. This should go against every single biological drive we have. It can be good or it can be bad. Our caveman brains aren’t designed for this world | |||
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