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"I would say that the main thing is that they arent sustainable for a long period of time as most of those diets are quick fixes that cut the calories to low, then the person gain the weight back if they stop it, the key is to find a sustainable diet. I follow flexible dieting which I find easy and it helps me to stay lean year round as you can eat all the foods that you like, bring the food into the circle not out, what diet do you follow? "Agreed and equally important in my opinion is mindset | |||
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 I dont eat pre made food and generally avoid sugars...quick fix diets are really un healthy... most of my friends who are constantly on diets are over weight and continue to get bigger over the years...its not really rocket science | |||
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"I would say that the main thing is that they arent sustainable for a long period of time as most of those diets are quick fixes that cut the calories to low, then the person gain the weight back if they stop it, the key is to find a sustainable diet. I follow flexible dieting which I find easy and it helps me to stay lean year round as you can eat all the foods that you like, bring the food into the circle not out, what diet do you follow?
Agreed and equally important in my opinion is mindset"I agree that people can't maintain the harsh goals they set themselves but what is flexible dieting Shag ? We all do flexible dieting...... one week lettuce by bed time a victoria sponge ......... deep fried. Now that's flexible. | |||
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"I don’t diet, I eat a healthy balanced diet, and it’s a permanent thing, rather than dieting. It’s easier when you’re in good habits, for me anyway. " This is exactly it. Good habits rather than diets. | |||
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"Isn’t it strange how our perception of ‘perfect bodies’ is in contradiction to how our bodies are actually designed. In order to maintain large muscles, a person must lift artificial weights/train regularly, eat large amounts to maintain that mass and regulate fat intake, all of which the body doesn’t want to do, just to meet a picture that society tells us is attractive... Ask any athlete or person about the effort and stress they put their bodies under to look that way" Agreed wholeheartedly. We are far too sedentary as the world has become mechanised. Gyms wouldn't be such big business otherwise. | |||
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"I follow the Seefood Diet I'm here all week "That sounds like a good diet too. I also like to eat alot of fish, tuna and salmon is my favourite | |||
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"I would say that the main thing is that they arent sustainable for a long period of time as most of those diets are quick fixes that cut the calories to low, then the person gain the weight back if they stop it, the key is to find a sustainable diet. I follow flexible dieting which I find easy and it helps me to stay lean year round as you can eat all the foods that you like, bring the food into the circle not out, what diet do you follow?
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"Intermittent fasting works well for us!" Yep, 5:2 for us, 5 years along, regulates our weight, and makes us feel good too, especially after a party/binge etc. Not for everyone, esp heavy workers. | |||
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"Isn’t it strange how our perception of ‘perfect bodies’ is in contradiction to how our bodies are actually designed. In order to maintain large muscles, a person must lift artificial weights/train regularly, eat large amounts to maintain that mass and regulate fat intake, all of which the body doesn’t want to do, just to meet a picture that society tells us is attractive... Ask any athlete or person about the effort and stress they put their bodies under to look that way" And ask them what happens admirer they retire......or just look at my body haha Our metabolism doesn’t change quick enough and we gain the pounds. | |||
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"I really don't believe in 'eat what you want but in moderation'........ People want doughnuts, chocolate and crisps...... what's moderation here ? One a day , one a week ? Any less than one a week and we are not 'eating what we want' but treating once per week. Eat REAL unprocessed food. Eat when you are hungry. Keep on the move ( no need for gyms - mums of toddlers, walker, people who clean their homes or cars yada yada it's all exercise ) Don't eat late at night ( say like after 7.30 or 8.00 ) Don't stay up late you will want another meal. Balance what you eat. You don't need loads of carbs unless you are a very hard manual worker. Never cut food groups. Balance your macros to suit YOU and your activity levels. Stay hydrated. Being thirsty is often mistaken for hunger. P.S. This is NOT a diet. It's self love. You deserve it. " Obviously you have to have the right mindset. There’s nothing wrong with having a donut, chocolate or crisps. If you have the craving, then that’s your body telling you that it needs sugar, carbs or whatever. Do it in moderation. | |||
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"Intermittent fasting works well for us! Yep, 5:2 for us, 5 years along, regulates our weight, and makes us feel good too, especially after a party/binge etc. Not for everyone, esp heavy workers." We do a mixture of 16:8 / 18:6 / 20:4 and 5:2 depending on how the weeks been going. We’re not super strict with it, but we find it lets us eat the stuff we want and it’s quite simple with no overly strict rules. | |||
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"I would say that the main thing is that they arent sustainable for a long period of time as most of those diets are quick fixes that cut the calories to low, then the person gain the weight back if they stop it, the key is to find a sustainable diet. I follow flexible dieting which I find easy and it helps me to stay lean year round as you can eat all the foods that you like, bring the food into the circle not out, what diet do you follow?
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We all do flexible dieting...... one week lettuce by bed time a victoria sponge ......... deep fried.
Now that's flexible. "Yes, maintaining those diets are hard and yes victoria sponge is tasty too, for me flexible diet means that you can enjoy all the foods within your calorie allowance, what I like to do is to keep the protein high, then what is rest of the calories. I can enjoy foods like pizzas, hamburgers, baguettes, yogurt, but still having portion control | |||
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"I follow the Seefood Diet I'm here all week That sounds like a good diet too. I also like to eat alot of fish, tuna and salmon is my favourite "Best reply | |||
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"Intermittent fasting works well for us! Yep, 5:2 for us, 5 years along, regulates our weight, and makes us feel good too, especially after a party/binge etc. Not for everyone, esp heavy workers. We do a mixture of 16:8 / 18:6 / 20:4 and 5:2 depending on how the weeks been going. We’re not super strict with it, but we find it lets us eat the stuff we want and it’s quite simple with no overly strict rules. " Would doing intermittent give better results if the person was already on a diet... I mean myself by the way. If I did fasting while doing WW I wonder if it can boost results. | |||
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"Diets don't work in the long term. It is true you can choose a diet, any diet and loose weight for the short term. Ghrelin will fight back, punching you in the face, because you're starving and want to eat. You end up putting all the weight you lost back on and more. Doing regular exercise and a healthy eating life plan, gradually reducing excess fat and becoming fitter over time. Working with your body, not against it. " You don’t have to starve while on a diet though. Iv been doing weight watchers for years and I’m hardly ever hungry and I don’t go to the gym at all. | |||
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"I really don't believe in 'eat what you want but in moderation'........ People want doughnuts, chocolate and crisps...... what's moderation here ? One a day , one a week ? Any less than one a week and we are not 'eating what we want' but treating once per week. Eat REAL unprocessed food. Eat when you are hungry. Keep on the move ( no need for gyms - mums of toddlers, walker, people who clean their homes or cars yada yada it's all exercise ) Don't eat late at night ( say like after 7.30 or 8.00 ) Don't stay up late you will want another meal. Balance what you eat. You don't need loads of carbs unless you are a very hard manual worker. Never cut food groups. Balance your macros to suit YOU and your activity levels. Stay hydrated. Being thirsty is often mistaken for hunger. P.S. This is NOT a diet. It's self love. You deserve it. Obviously you have to have the right mindset. There’s nothing wrong with having a donut, chocolate or crisps. If you have the craving, then that’s your body telling you that it needs sugar, carbs or whatever. Do it in moderation. " Nope. That's your body craving a fix. One doughnut leads to two leads to three...... People who are struggling wouldn't find it easy to restrict if they see that they can 'eat what they want' ..... A diet of shite got them there in the first place. Needing a bit of sugar? Have a nana or other fruit. A doughnut contains nothing but flour and sugar and has the same calorie content as a light meal. Choice is everything. One doughnut a day is 3.500 calories the equivalent of one pound of fat or 10 hours on a treadmill. | |||
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"I really don't believe in 'eat what you want but in moderation'........ People want doughnuts, chocolate and crisps...... what's moderation here ? One a day , one a week ? Any less than one a week and we are not 'eating what we want' but treating once per week. Eat REAL unprocessed food. Eat when you are hungry. Keep on the move ( no need for gyms - mums of toddlers, walker, people who clean their homes or cars yada yada it's all exercise ) Don't eat late at night ( say like after 7.30 or 8.00 ) Don't stay up late you will want another meal. Balance what you eat. You don't need loads of carbs unless you are a very hard manual worker. Never cut food groups. Balance your macros to suit YOU and your activity levels. Stay hydrated. Being thirsty is often mistaken for hunger. P.S. This is NOT a diet. It's self love. You deserve it. Obviously you have to have the right mindset. There’s nothing wrong with having a donut, chocolate or crisps. If you have the craving, then that’s your body telling you that it needs sugar, carbs or whatever. Do it in moderation. Nope. That's your body craving a fix. One doughnut leads to two leads to three...... People who are struggling wouldn't find it easy to restrict if they see that they can 'eat what they want' ..... A diet of shite got them there in the first place. Needing a bit of sugar? Have a nana or other fruit. A doughnut contains nothing but flour and sugar and has the same calorie content as a light meal. Choice is everything. One doughnut a day is 3.500 calories the equivalent of one pound of fat or 10 hours on a treadmill. " Personally I've found I can reset my cravings to better things by having something at the same time every day. If I want to eat more fruit for example, if I start having some mid morning, eventually I start to crave it around that time. | |||
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" I treat my self once a month for Mac Donald’s and sweet" Oh my God.... your stomach really has you under control , you poor thing | |||
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"My issue (one if them) is portion size and a fear of feeling hungry. When I eat out I tend to look for whatever gives me thd most food for my money, not necessarily what I fancy eating. If I go to my friends house for dinner I'm thinking on thd way there how I might be hungry on thd way home so plan a visit to the garage. I have no idea why I think like this. I was never starved as a child. I've ways had access to food. I do think that these intrusive thoughts about food are what are easily forgotten by those who simply spout eat less(right), move more. Yes, on paper energy intake and energy expenditure is a simple calculation but humans are not pieces of paper. We are complex beings with psychological issues alongside weight ones. " How do you feel if you do actually get to the hungry stage? Genuine question x | |||
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"I really don't believe in 'eat what you want but in moderation'........ People want doughnuts, chocolate and crisps...... what's moderation here ? One a day , one a week ? Any less than one a week and we are not 'eating what we want' but treating once per week. Eat REAL unprocessed food. Eat when you are hungry. Keep on the move ( no need for gyms - mums of toddlers, walker, people who clean their homes or cars yada yada it's all exercise ) Don't eat late at night ( say like after 7.30 or 8.00 ) Don't stay up late you will want another meal. Balance what you eat. You don't need loads of carbs unless you are a very hard manual worker. Never cut food groups. Balance your macros to suit YOU and your activity levels. Stay hydrated. Being thirsty is often mistaken for hunger. P.S. This is NOT a diet. It's self love. You deserve it. Obviously you have to have the right mindset. There’s nothing wrong with having a donut, chocolate or crisps. If you have the craving, then that’s your body telling you that it needs sugar, carbs or whatever. Do it in moderation. Nope. That's your body craving a fix. One doughnut leads to two leads to three...... People who are struggling wouldn't find it easy to restrict if they see that they can 'eat what they want' ..... A diet of shite got them there in the first place. Needing a bit of sugar? Have a nana or other fruit. A doughnut contains nothing but flour and sugar and has the same calorie content as a light meal. Choice is everything. One doughnut a day is 3.500 calories the equivalent of one pound of fat or 10 hours on a treadmill. Personally I've found I can reset my cravings to better things by having something at the same time every day. If I want to eat more fruit for example, if I start having some mid morning, eventually I start to crave it around that time. " I wonder if that’s why I start my day with a chocolate bar & a cup of tea every single morning for breakfast. | |||
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"My issue (one if them) is portion size and a fear of feeling hungry. When I eat out I tend to look for whatever gives me thd most food for my money, not necessarily what I fancy eating. If I go to my friends house for dinner I'm thinking on thd way there how I might be hungry on thd way home so plan a visit to the garage. I have no idea why I think like this. I was never starved as a child. I've ways had access to food. I do think that these intrusive thoughts about food are what are easily forgotten by those who simply spout eat less(right), move more. Yes, on paper energy intake and energy expenditure is a simple calculation but humans are not pieces of paper. We are complex beings with psychological issues alongside weight ones. How do you feel if you do actually get to the hungry stage? Genuine question x " Great. I regularly go hungry , it’s put you back in control | |||
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"You’d be surprised how clueless the average person is when it comes to diets. Pretty much all diets work. It’s user error. People often massively underestimate what they eat They over estimate what they burn And they don’t seem to understand the basic idea of calories in vs calories out. A long with endless excuses why they can’t lose weight " Sorry but thats absolute rubbish. The reason diets are the single biggest search phrase on the internet and a multi billion pound industry is because none of them work so it’s a continuous revenue stream for those that continually make them up. They aren’t excuses , people do struggle with over eating and lack of exercise because they are unhappy and sugar and fat make them feel better, temporarily | |||
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"You’d be surprised how clueless the average person is when it comes to diets. Pretty much all diets work. It’s user error. People often massively underestimate what they eat They over estimate what they burn And they don’t seem to understand the basic idea of calories in vs calories out. A long with endless excuses why they can’t lose weight Sorry but thats absolute rubbish. The reason diets are the single biggest search phrase on the internet and a multi billion pound industry is because none of them work so it’s a continuous revenue stream for those that continually make them up. They aren’t excuses , people do struggle with over eating and lack of exercise because they are unhappy and sugar and fat make them feel better, temporarily " I disagree. Diets works because eating less works. If you “follow the diet” bit you don’t eat less, whose fault is it? It’s like Reading a map upside down then blaming the map when you get lost. Human error is the main reason diets fail. | |||
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"My issue (one if them) is portion size and a fear of feeling hungry. When I eat out I tend to look for whatever gives me thd most food for my money, not necessarily what I fancy eating. If I go to my friends house for dinner I'm thinking on thd way there how I might be hungry on thd way home so plan a visit to the garage. I have no idea why I think like this. I was never starved as a child. I've ways had access to food. I do think that these intrusive thoughts about food are what are easily forgotten by those who simply spout eat less(right), move more. Yes, on paper energy intake and energy expenditure is a simple calculation but humans are not pieces of paper. We are complex beings with psychological issues alongside weight ones. How do you feel if you do actually get to the hungry stage? Genuine question x " Hungry lol I know it's OK to be hungry. A guy at work who lost a lot of weight said the best thing he realised was that it's OK to feel hungry and I do try to be mindful of this but sometimes it slips. Don't get me wrong. I know this is not the only problem I gave around food. I do use it as a crutch. I do crave 'dirty food' (such as last night, my mouth needed something unctuous but I couldn't put my finger on what it wanted lol), I use food as rewards for achieving fitness goals (when I did parkrun I'd allow myself a piece of cake if I got a pb). I actually enjoy healthy foods as well. I love a nice crisp salad. I have stirfys with just spy sauce on and not those heavy, sugar laiden sauces. I know all of the science behind it all but will still buy dinner and something for on the wag home when I go to the supermarket! | |||
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"You’d be surprised how clueless the average person is when it comes to diets. Pretty much all diets work. It’s user error. People often massively underestimate what they eat They over estimate what they burn And they don’t seem to understand the basic idea of calories in vs calories out. A long with endless excuses why they can’t lose weight " I think you're right in terms of the underestimating how much food people are eating and over estimating how many calories exercise burns. I have tried logging things on myfitnesspal but I get bored weighing stuff out. | |||
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"Everyone has a diet, it just depends if it's the right one for you or not. Clearly mine is wrong at the moment but it's gradually getting better. I grew up on a farm and was surrounded by the fittest and strongest people I know. Did they have a 6 pack did they heck. Could they run after livestock in feilds in the morning and then fence a feild in the afternoon yes. I think we have a very narrow limit of what healthy is, my grandad wouldn't think most men we perceive as fit as fit. " Your last sentence is very true. My father is the same weight in his mind nineties that he was in his twenties. He still has visible muscle tone and is fitter than people ten years younger than him. He always had a physical job, frequently worked hard physically all day then we things like dig the garden when he came home, rode his bike into his late 80s etc. Today's lifestyle doesn't support fitness of good diet. It's too easy to get what you need without moving, it's too easy to eat high calorie, low nutrient food without moving from your front door. | |||
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"Everyone has a diet, it just depends if it's the right one for you or not. Clearly mine is wrong at the moment but it's gradually getting better. I grew up on a farm and was surrounded by the fittest and strongest people I know. Did they have a 6 pack did they heck. Could they run after livestock in feilds in the morning and then fence a feild in the afternoon yes. I think we have a very narrow limit of what healthy is, my grandad wouldn't think most men we perceive as fit as fit. Your last sentence is very true. My father is the same weight in his mind nineties that he was in his twenties. He still has visible muscle tone and is fitter than people ten years younger than him. He always had a physical job, frequently worked hard physically all day then we things like dig the garden when he came home, rode his bike into his late 80s etc. Today's lifestyle doesn't support fitness of good diet. It's too easy to get what you need without moving, it's too easy to eat high calorie, low nutrient food without moving from your front door. " That's the thing most of my family for generations until me, had physically demanding jobs. They didn't do exercise or monitored what they are. Their lifestyles were so different to mine. The pinnacle of health for them was can you do a hard day's work, not what you looked like. | |||
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"You’d be surprised how clueless the average person is when it comes to diets. Pretty much all diets work. It’s user error. People often massively underestimate what they eat They over estimate what they burn And they don’t seem to understand the basic idea of calories in vs calories out. A long with endless excuses why they can’t lose weight Sorry but thats absolute rubbish. The reason diets are the single biggest search phrase on the internet and a multi billion pound industry is because none of them work so it’s a continuous revenue stream for those that continually make them up. They aren’t excuses , people do struggle with over eating and lack of exercise because they are unhappy and sugar and fat make them feel better, temporarily I disagree. Diets works because eating less works. If you “follow the diet” bit you don’t eat less, whose fault is it? It’s like Reading a map upside down then blaming the map when you get lost. Human error is the main reason diets fail. " But when you follow a map you get a positive result (with practice) , it works because it leads to what you want without any negatives. When you try to follow a diet you are in conflict to what your brain is telling you it wants (sugar, fat) so you feel bad following it and eventually if other things in life too you , will rampage on pizza or donuts and undo all the work. Or you will just give up because the pain isn’t worth the rewards Unless you change your relationship with food and hunger and stop eating primarily for short term pleasure you will just yo-yo. If the diet works for you , you likely don’t need it, you know what your body needs and only eat for health, strength , energy, socially etc | |||
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"Everyone has a diet, it just depends if it's the right one for you or not. Clearly mine is wrong at the moment but it's gradually getting better. I grew up on a farm and was surrounded by the fittest and strongest people I know. Did they have a 6 pack did they heck. Could they run after livestock in feilds in the morning and then fence a feild in the afternoon yes. I think we have a very narrow limit of what healthy is, my grandad wouldn't think most men we perceive as fit as fit. Your last sentence is very true. My father is the same weight in his mind nineties that he was in his twenties. He still has visible muscle tone and is fitter than people ten years younger than him. He always had a physical job, frequently worked hard physically all day then we things like dig the garden when he came home, rode his bike into his late 80s etc. Today's lifestyle doesn't support fitness of good diet. It's too easy to get what you need without moving, it's too easy to eat high calorie, low nutrient food without moving from your front door. That's the thing most of my family for generations until me, had physically demanding jobs. They didn't do exercise or monitored what they are. Their lifestyles were so different to mine. The pinnacle of health for them was can you do a hard day's work, not what you looked like. " That's true. Being fit nowadays is something you need to think about and actively decide on for most people. | |||
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"You’d be surprised how clueless the average person is when it comes to diets. Pretty much all diets work. It’s user error. People often massively underestimate what they eat They over estimate what they burn And they don’t seem to understand the basic idea of calories in vs calories out. A long with endless excuses why they can’t lose weight Sorry but thats absolute rubbish. The reason diets are the single biggest search phrase on the internet and a multi billion pound industry is because none of them work so it’s a continuous revenue stream for those that continually make them up. They aren’t excuses , people do struggle with over eating and lack of exercise because they are unhappy and sugar and fat make them feel better, temporarily I disagree. Diets works because eating less works. If you “follow the diet” bit you don’t eat less, whose fault is it? It’s like Reading a map upside down then blaming the map when you get lost. Human error is the main reason diets fail. But when you follow a map you get a positive result (with practice) , it works because it leads to what you want without any negatives. When you try to follow a diet you are in conflict to what your brain is telling you it wants (sugar, fat) so you feel bad following it and eventually if other things in life too you , will rampage on pizza or donuts and undo all the work. Or you will just give up because the pain isn’t worth the rewards Unless you change your relationship with food and hunger and stop eating primarily for short term pleasure you will just yo-yo. If the diet works for you , you likely don’t need it, you know what your body needs and only eat for health, strength , energy, socially etc " So what your saying is the diet works if you follow the diet But you also need to actually put some effort in after to not yo-yo back That’s obvious right? People seem to think diets are magic that will do all the work for them. That it’s gonna be easy. You chose to get over weight. That was easy and fun. Now comes the hard work. But don’t blame the diet for human error. The diet works. It’s just a method to get you to lose weight. If you balloon back up afterwards, that’s on you | |||
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"Everyone has a diet, it just depends if it's the right one for you or not. Clearly mine is wrong at the moment but it's gradually getting better. I grew up on a farm and was surrounded by the fittest and strongest people I know. Did they have a 6 pack did they heck. Could they run after livestock in feilds in the morning and then fence a feild in the afternoon yes. I think we have a very narrow limit of what healthy is, my grandad wouldn't think most men we perceive as fit as fit. Your last sentence is very true. My father is the same weight in his mind nineties that he was in his twenties. He still has visible muscle tone and is fitter than people ten years younger than him. He always had a physical job, frequently worked hard physically all day then we things like dig the garden when he came home, rode his bike into his late 80s etc. Today's lifestyle doesn't support fitness of good diet. It's too easy to get what you need without moving, it's too easy to eat high calorie, low nutrient food without moving from your front door. That's the thing most of my family for generations until me, had physically demanding jobs. They didn't do exercise or monitored what they are. Their lifestyles were so different to mine. The pinnacle of health for them was can you do a hard day's work, not what you looked like. " You can still take control of your lifestyle, it’s actually easier now the choices and free time we have. I’ve worked from home for years on a laptop & phone but choose to stand all day not sit so get 10-15k daily steps and stretch well rather than 2-3K & back problems. You can walk and enjoy nature and peoples company rather than zone out on Netflix. You can learn to cook and cook for others and eat more socially and communally rather than alone. You can choose to give up food one day a week and get to know and control hunger. We really don’t need to eat 7x3. There’s lots you can do if you want to | |||
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"I spent the first 30 odd years of my life being that person who could eat what they wanted and was still classed as underweight Then I had to have a hysterectomy which put me into instant menopause and gained 3 stone. I've got half of it back off now but have had to change everything to do with my attitude to food "Let's not confuse the 'it's easy, just eat less' (mainly male) brigade by bringing hormones into it lol | |||
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"You’d be surprised how clueless the average person is when it comes to diets. Pretty much all diets work. It’s user error. People often massively underestimate what they eat They over estimate what they burn And they don’t seem to understand the basic idea of calories in vs calories out. A long with endless excuses why they can’t lose weight Sorry but thats absolute rubbish. The reason diets are the single biggest search phrase on the internet and a multi billion pound industry is because none of them work so it’s a continuous revenue stream for those that continually make them up. They aren’t excuses , people do struggle with over eating and lack of exercise because they are unhappy and sugar and fat make them feel better, temporarily I disagree. Diets works because eating less works. If you “follow the diet” bit you don’t eat less, whose fault is it? It’s like Reading a map upside down then blaming the map when you get lost. Human error is the main reason diets fail. But when you follow a map you get a positive result (with practice) , it works because it leads to what you want without any negatives. When you try to follow a diet you are in conflict to what your brain is telling you it wants (sugar, fat) so you feel bad following it and eventually if other things in life too you , will rampage on pizza or donuts and undo all the work. Or you will just give up because the pain isn’t worth the rewards Unless you change your relationship with food and hunger and stop eating primarily for short term pleasure you will just yo-yo. If the diet works for you , you likely don’t need it, you know what your body needs and only eat for health, strength , energy, socially etc So what your saying is the diet works if you follow the diet But you also need to actually put some effort in after to not yo-yo back That’s obvious right? People seem to think diets are magic that will do all the work for them. That it’s gonna be easy. You chose to get over weight. That was easy and fun. Now comes the hard work. But don’t blame the diet for human error. The diet works. It’s just a method to get you to lose weight. If you balloon back up afterwards, that’s on you" Agreed. The issue isn't losing the weight but keeping it off afterwards. That takes commitment, discipline and a new mindset. | |||
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"I spent the first 30 odd years of my life being that person who could eat what they wanted and was still classed as underweight Then I had to have a hysterectomy which put me into instant menopause and gained 3 stone. I've got half of it back off now but have had to change everything to do with my attitude to food
Let's not confuse the 'it's easy, just eat less' (mainly male) brigade by bringing hormones into it lol "This is another misconception woman often have with hormones and weight gain. Hormones won’t magically cause massive weight gain. They can cause short term small gains in water weight, but not actually weight gain People don’t go into menopause and put on 3 stone over night. A change in hormones can effect your TDEE, without your appetite slowing down. This can easily lead to weight gain. The issue I take is when women completely throw any personal responsibility out the window and say it’s impossible to avoid. The hormones did it. I’m not saying it’s easy, but it is avoidable. With proper weight management tools and some hard work you can absolutely minimise weight gain due to hormones. The problem is this idea of “well, gained weight cuz of hormone, not my fault” has spread so far, so many just take it for gospel. So when the hormones change and weight starts going up, instead of taking a proactive mentality they just give into it. No one said it would be easy, but it’s very easy to just say “not my fault it’s the hormones” and gain weight. But that only hurts yourself | |||
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"I spent the first 30 odd years of my life being that person who could eat what they wanted and was still classed as underweight Then I had to have a hysterectomy which put me into instant menopause and gained 3 stone. I've got half of it back off now but have had to change everything to do with my attitude to food
Let's not confuse the 'it's easy, just eat less' (mainly male) brigade by bringing hormones into it lol "Haha, I always find that me and Mr can do exactly the same thing diet wise and he'll lose twice as much as me, so annoying, especially as I'm heavier than him! | |||
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"Everyone has a diet, it just depends if it's the right one for you or not. Clearly mine is wrong at the moment but it's gradually getting better. I grew up on a farm and was surrounded by the fittest and strongest people I know. Did they have a 6 pack did they heck. Could they run after livestock in feilds in the morning and then fence a feild in the afternoon yes. I think we have a very narrow limit of what healthy is, my grandad wouldn't think most men we perceive as fit as fit. Your last sentence is very true. My father is the same weight in his mind nineties that he was in his twenties. He still has visible muscle tone and is fitter than people ten years younger than him. He always had a physical job, frequently worked hard physically all day then we things like dig the garden when he came home, rode his bike into his late 80s etc. Today's lifestyle doesn't support fitness of good diet. It's too easy to get what you need without moving, it's too easy to eat high calorie, low nutrient food without moving from your front door. That's the thing most of my family for generations until me, had physically demanding jobs. They didn't do exercise or monitored what they are. Their lifestyles were so different to mine. The pinnacle of health for them was can you do a hard day's work, not what you looked like. You can still take control of your lifestyle, it’s actually easier now the choices and free time we have. I’ve worked from home for years on a laptop & phone but choose to stand all day not sit so get 10-15k daily steps and stretch well rather than 2-3K & back problems. You can walk and enjoy nature and peoples company rather than zone out on Netflix. You can learn to cook and cook for others and eat more socially and communally rather than alone. You can choose to give up food one day a week and get to know and control hunger. We really don’t need to eat 7x3. There’s lots you can do if you want to " Of course there is as I mentioned in my first post. I'm making gradual changes to my diet and lifestyle. Which has been difficult after being bed bound for a considerable amount of time last year. My point being was that a 6 pack doesn't necessarily mean healthy. And you've assumed I sit and watch Netflix cause of my pictures. When I walked in excess of 9 miles on the weekend on the coast and a 5 mile hill walk during the week. It's condescending statements like you've just made. That make it difficult for those with mental health issues and illness to loose weight. I'm doing my best to regain my health in a gradual and sustainable manner. | |||
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"I spent the first 30 odd years of my life being that person who could eat what they wanted and was still classed as underweight Then I had to have a hysterectomy which put me into instant menopause and gained 3 stone. I've got half of it back off now but have had to change everything to do with my attitude to food
Let's not confuse the 'it's easy, just eat less' (mainly male) brigade by bringing hormones into it lol
This is another misconception woman often have with hormones and weight gain.
Hormones won’t magically cause massive weight gain. They can cause short term small gains in water weight, but not actually weight gain
People don’t go into menopause and put on 3 stone over night.
A change in hormones can effect your TDEE, without your appetite slowing down. This can easily lead to weight gain.
The issue I take is when women completely throw any personal responsibility out the window and say it’s impossible to avoid. The hormones did it.
I’m not saying it’s easy, but it is avoidable. With proper weight management tools and some hard work you can absolutely minimise weight gain due to hormones.
The problem is this idea of “well, gained weight cuz of hormone, not my fault” has spread so far, so many just take it for gospel.
So when the hormones change and weight starts going up, instead of taking a proactive mentality they just give into it.
No one said it would be easy, but it’s very easy to just say “not my fault it’s the hormones” and gain weight. But that only hurts yourself "Spoken like a true man. I never said it was overnight, it took a couple of years but it is a very real thing when your body suddenly goes from producing normal levels of oestrogen to having zero. (I'm not talking about normal menopause here but surgical) there's plenty of research to show that lack of oestrogen contributes to the weigh the body processes sugars so I have to disagree that hormones have no bearing on weight gain, for me it certainly did, I ate in exactly the same way has I had for the previous 38 years of my life where I had struggled to gain as much as a couple of lbs. I even had a dietician involved in weight gain at one point to now having to watch what I eat | |||
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"Isn’t it strange how our perception of ‘perfect bodies’ is in contradiction to how our bodies are actually designed. In order to maintain large muscles, a person must lift artificial weights/train regularly, eat large amounts to maintain that mass and regulate fat intake, all of which the body doesn’t want to do, just to meet a picture that society tells us is attractive... Ask any athlete or person about the effort and stress they put their bodies under to look that way" On the other hand, society has never been so sedentary, so you could argue that bodies that don't do physical work are unnatural. | |||
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"Everyone has a diet, it just depends if it's the right one for you or not. Clearly mine is wrong at the moment but it's gradually getting better. I grew up on a farm and was surrounded by the fittest and strongest people I know. Did they have a 6 pack did they heck. Could they run after livestock in feilds in the morning and then fence a feild in the afternoon yes. I think we have a very narrow limit of what healthy is, my grandad wouldn't think most men we perceive as fit as fit. Your last sentence is very true. My father is the same weight in his mind nineties that he was in his twenties. He still has visible muscle tone and is fitter than people ten years younger than him. He always had a physical job, frequently worked hard physically all day then we things like dig the garden when he came home, rode his bike into his late 80s etc. Today's lifestyle doesn't support fitness of good diet. It's too easy to get what you need without moving, it's too easy to eat high calorie, low nutrient food without moving from your front door. That's the thing most of my family for generations until me, had physically demanding jobs. They didn't do exercise or monitored what they are. Their lifestyles were so different to mine. The pinnacle of health for them was can you do a hard day's work, not what you looked like. You can still take control of your lifestyle, it’s actually easier now the choices and free time we have. I’ve worked from home for years on a laptop & phone but choose to stand all day not sit so get 10-15k daily steps and stretch well rather than 2-3K & back problems. You can walk and enjoy nature and peoples company rather than zone out on Netflix. You can learn to cook and cook for others and eat more socially and communally rather than alone. You can choose to give up food one day a week and get to know and control hunger. We really don’t need to eat 7x3. There’s lots you can do if you want to Of course there is as I mentioned in my first post. I'm making gradual changes to my diet and lifestyle. Which has been difficult after being bed bound for a considerable amount of time last year. My point being was that a 6 pack doesn't necessarily mean healthy. And you've assumed I sit and watch Netflix cause of my pictures. When I walked in excess of 9 miles on the weekend on the coast and a 5 mile hill walk during the week. It's condescending statements like you've just made. That make it difficult for those with mental health issues and illness to loose weight. I'm doing my best to regain my health in a gradual and sustainable manner. " I meant in general, not to you, as a nation / society this is why people are generally overweight, people don’t need diets | |||
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"I spent the first 30 odd years of my life being that person who could eat what they wanted and was still classed as underweight Then I had to have a hysterectomy which put me into instant menopause and gained 3 stone. I've got half of it back off now but have had to change everything to do with my attitude to food
Let's not confuse the 'it's easy, just eat less' (mainly male) brigade by bringing hormones into it lol
This is another misconception woman often have with hormones and weight gain.
Hormones won’t magically cause massive weight gain. They can cause short term small gains in water weight, but not actually weight gain
People don’t go into menopause and put on 3 stone over night.
A change in hormones can effect your TDEE, without your appetite slowing down. This can easily lead to weight gain.
The issue I take is when women completely throw any personal responsibility out the window and say it’s impossible to avoid. The hormones did it.
I’m not saying it’s easy, but it is avoidable. With proper weight management tools and some hard work you can absolutely minimise weight gain due to hormones.
The problem is this idea of “well, gained weight cuz of hormone, not my fault” has spread so far, so many just take it for gospel.
So when the hormones change and weight starts going up, instead of taking a proactive mentality they just give into it.
No one said it would be easy, but it’s very easy to just say “not my fault it’s the hormones” and gain weight. But that only hurts yourself
Spoken like a true man. I never said it was overnight, it took a couple of years but it is a very real thing when your body suddenly goes from producing normal levels of oestrogen to having zero. (I'm not talking about normal menopause here but surgical) there's plenty of research to show that lack of oestrogen contributes to the weigh the body processes sugars so I have to disagree that hormones have no bearing on weight gain, for me it certainly did, I ate in exactly the same way has I had for the previous 38 years of my life where I had struggled to gain as much as a couple of lbs. I even had a dietician involved in weight gain at one point to now having to watch what I eat"If the hormone changes changed your TDEE and you continued to eat the same it’s no surprise you gained weight, which is exactly what I said. It’s totally avoidable. | |||
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"I have always eaten a balanced diet and exercised I dont eat pre made food and generally avoid sugars...quick fix diets are really un healthy... most of my friends who are constantly on diets are over weight and continue to get bigger over the years...its not really rocket science "And for the record i have had children...i too have had a hysterectomy and also suffered with low thyroid (side effect weight gain) but again i have never been over weight... All that said...being comfortable in your own skin is a healthy out look | |||
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"I spent the first 30 odd years of my life being that person who could eat what they wanted and was still classed as underweight Then I had to have a hysterectomy which put me into instant menopause and gained 3 stone. I've got half of it back off now but have had to change everything to do with my attitude to food
Let's not confuse the 'it's easy, just eat less' (mainly male) brigade by bringing hormones into it lol
This is another misconception woman often have with hormones and weight gain.
Hormones won’t magically cause massive weight gain. They can cause short term small gains in water weight, but not actually weight gain
People don’t go into menopause and put on 3 stone over night.
A change in hormones can effect your TDEE, without your appetite slowing down. This can easily lead to weight gain.
The issue I take is when women completely throw any personal responsibility out the window and say it’s impossible to avoid. The hormones did it.
I’m not saying it’s easy, but it is avoidable. With proper weight management tools and some hard work you can absolutely minimise weight gain due to hormones.
The problem is this idea of “well, gained weight cuz of hormone, not my fault” has spread so far, so many just take it for gospel.
So when the hormones change and weight starts going up, instead of taking a proactive mentality they just give into it.
No one said it would be easy, but it’s very easy to just say “not my fault it’s the hormones” and gain weight. But that only hurts yourself "And here he is ladies! Twisting things as well to fit his own narrative 
No one said it was an overnight thing. No one has said they can't lose weight because of hormones.
Changing a lifetime of habit isn't going to happen overnight and I fact weight gain can happen so slowly you don't even notice it.
This 'it's not hard really, is it' attitude is far more damaging to people's weight loss journey. Particularly if they are struggling. Having someone turn round and say you're not even trying is gonna piss you off. If that someone also has psychological issues with food is then going to retreat and comfort eat.
Yes. The science says just eat less(right) and move more. No one is disputing that but all bodies have slight little nuances that make things more difficult.
For example, I have pcos, insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes. All of which make it difficult (not I didn't say impossible!) to lose weight. Add menstruation cycles that are all over the place on top of that as well as other external factors that can cause weight gain and its actually very difficult. | |||
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"I spent the first 30 odd years of my life being that person who could eat what they wanted and was still classed as underweight Then I had to have a hysterectomy which put me into instant menopause and gained 3 stone. I've got half of it back off now but have had to change everything to do with my attitude to food
Let's not confuse the 'it's easy, just eat less' (mainly male) brigade by bringing hormones into it lol
This is another misconception woman often have with hormones and weight gain.
Hormones won’t magically cause massive weight gain. They can cause short term small gains in water weight, but not actually weight gain
People don’t go into menopause and put on 3 stone over night.
A change in hormones can effect your TDEE, without your appetite slowing down. This can easily lead to weight gain.
The issue I take is when women completely throw any personal responsibility out the window and say it’s impossible to avoid. The hormones did it.
I’m not saying it’s easy, but it is avoidable. With proper weight management tools and some hard work you can absolutely minimise weight gain due to hormones.
The problem is this idea of “well, gained weight cuz of hormone, not my fault” has spread so far, so many just take it for gospel.
So when the hormones change and weight starts going up, instead of taking a proactive mentality they just give into it.
No one said it would be easy, but it’s very easy to just say “not my fault it’s the hormones” and gain weight. But that only hurts yourself
Spoken like a true man. I never said it was overnight, it took a couple of years but it is a very real thing when your body suddenly goes from producing normal levels of oestrogen to having zero. (I'm not talking about normal menopause here but surgical) there's plenty of research to show that lack of oestrogen contributes to the weigh the body processes sugars so I have to disagree that hormones have no bearing on weight gain, for me it certainly did, I ate in exactly the same way has I had for the previous 38 years of my life where I had struggled to gain as much as a couple of lbs. I even had a dietician involved in weight gain at one point to now having to watch what I eat
If the hormone changes changed your TDEE and you continued to eat the same it’s no surprise you gained weight, which is exactly what I said. It’s totally avoidable. "Have your uterus removed and see how totally unavoidable it really is. | |||
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"I spent the first 30 odd years of my life being that person who could eat what they wanted and was still classed as underweight Then I had to have a hysterectomy which put me into instant menopause and gained 3 stone. I've got half of it back off now but have had to change everything to do with my attitude to food
Let's not confuse the 'it's easy, just eat less' (mainly male) brigade by bringing hormones into it lol
This is another misconception woman often have with hormones and weight gain.
Hormones won’t magically cause massive weight gain. They can cause short term small gains in water weight, but not actually weight gain
People don’t go into menopause and put on 3 stone over night.
A change in hormones can effect your TDEE, without your appetite slowing down. This can easily lead to weight gain.
The issue I take is when women completely throw any personal responsibility out the window and say it’s impossible to avoid. The hormones did it.
I’m not saying it’s easy, but it is avoidable. With proper weight management tools and some hard work you can absolutely minimise weight gain due to hormones.
The problem is this idea of “well, gained weight cuz of hormone, not my fault” has spread so far, so many just take it for gospel.
So when the hormones change and weight starts going up, instead of taking a proactive mentality they just give into it.
No one said it would be easy, but it’s very easy to just say “not my fault it’s the hormones” and gain weight. But that only hurts yourself
And here he is ladies! Twisting things as well to fit his own narrative
No one said it was an overnight thing. No one has said they can't lose weight because of hormones.
Changing a lifetime of habit isn't going to happen overnight and I fact weight gain can happen so slowly you don't even notice it.
This 'it's not hard really, is it' attitude is far more damaging to people's weight loss journey. Particularly if they are struggling. Having someone turn round and say you're not even trying is gonna piss you off. If that someone also has psychological issues with food is then going to retreat and comfort eat.
Yes. The science says just eat less(right) and move more. No one is disputing that but all bodies have slight little nuances that make things more difficult.
For example, I have pcos, insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes. All of which make it difficult (not I didn't say impossible!) to lose weight. Add menstruation cycles that are all over the place on top of that as well as other external factors that can cause weight gain and its actually very difficult. "And spoke like a true woman that didn’t read what I put. I’ve literally saus, it’s not easy, it’s just avoidable. The whole “it’s not hard is it” attitude is completely wrong But the whole “it’s hormones, you can’t avoid it” is wrong too | |||
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"I spent the first 30 odd years of my life being that person who could eat what they wanted and was still classed as underweight Then I had to have a hysterectomy which put me into instant menopause and gained 3 stone. I've got half of it back off now but have had to change everything to do with my attitude to food
Let's not confuse the 'it's easy, just eat less' (mainly male) brigade by bringing hormones into it lol
This is another misconception woman often have with hormones and weight gain.
Hormones won’t magically cause massive weight gain. They can cause short term small gains in water weight, but not actually weight gain
People don’t go into menopause and put on 3 stone over night.
A change in hormones can effect your TDEE, without your appetite slowing down. This can easily lead to weight gain.
The issue I take is when women completely throw any personal responsibility out the window and say it’s impossible to avoid. The hormones did it.
I’m not saying it’s easy, but it is avoidable. With proper weight management tools and some hard work you can absolutely minimise weight gain due to hormones.
The problem is this idea of “well, gained weight cuz of hormone, not my fault” has spread so far, so many just take it for gospel.
So when the hormones change and weight starts going up, instead of taking a proactive mentality they just give into it.
No one said it would be easy, but it’s very easy to just say “not my fault it’s the hormones” and gain weight. But that only hurts yourself
And here he is ladies! Twisting things as well to fit his own narrative
No one said it was an overnight thing. No one has said they can't lose weight because of hormones.
Changing a lifetime of habit isn't going to happen overnight and I fact weight gain can happen so slowly you don't even notice it.
This 'it's not hard really, is it' attitude is far more damaging to people's weight loss journey. Particularly if they are struggling. Having someone turn round and say you're not even trying is gonna piss you off. If that someone also has psychological issues with food is then going to retreat and comfort eat.
Yes. The science says just eat less(right) and move more. No one is disputing that but all bodies have slight little nuances that make things more difficult.
For example, I have pcos, insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes. All of which make it difficult (not I didn't say impossible!) to lose weight. Add menstruation cycles that are all over the place on top of that as well as other external factors that can cause weight gain and its actually very difficult.
And spoke like a true woman that didn’t read what I put.
I’ve literally saus, it’s not easy, it’s just avoidable.
The whole “it’s not hard is it” attitude is completely wrong
But the whole “it’s hormones, you can’t avoid it” is wrong too "Point me to where anyone said 'it's hormones, you can't avoid it'? I think one person said 'it was hormones but I'm fixing it'. | |||
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"I spent the first 30 odd years of my life being that person who could eat what they wanted and was still classed as underweight Then I had to have a hysterectomy which put me into instant menopause and gained 3 stone. I've got half of it back off now but have had to change everything to do with my attitude to food
Let's not confuse the 'it's easy, just eat less' (mainly male) brigade by bringing hormones into it lol
This is another misconception woman often have with hormones and weight gain.
Hormones won’t magically cause massive weight gain. They can cause short term small gains in water weight, but not actually weight gain
People don’t go into menopause and put on 3 stone over night.
A change in hormones can effect your TDEE, without your appetite slowing down. This can easily lead to weight gain.
The issue I take is when women completely throw any personal responsibility out the window and say it’s impossible to avoid. The hormones did it.
I’m not saying it’s easy, but it is avoidable. With proper weight management tools and some hard work you can absolutely minimise weight gain due to hormones.
The problem is this idea of “well, gained weight cuz of hormone, not my fault” has spread so far, so many just take it for gospel.
So when the hormones change and weight starts going up, instead of taking a proactive mentality they just give into it.
No one said it would be easy, but it’s very easy to just say “not my fault it’s the hormones” and gain weight. But that only hurts yourself
Spoken like a true man. I never said it was overnight, it took a couple of years but it is a very real thing when your body suddenly goes from producing normal levels of oestrogen to having zero. (I'm not talking about normal menopause here but surgical) there's plenty of research to show that lack of oestrogen contributes to the weigh the body processes sugars so I have to disagree that hormones have no bearing on weight gain, for me it certainly did, I ate in exactly the same way has I had for the previous 38 years of my life where I had struggled to gain as much as a couple of lbs. I even had a dietician involved in weight gain at one point to now having to watch what I eat
If the hormone changes changed your TDEE and you continued to eat the same it’s no surprise you gained weight, which is exactly what I said. It’s totally avoidable.
Have your uterus removed and see how totally unavoidable it really is. "I imagine it would be very difficult but I’d work my best to avoid instead of just succumbing to “hormones, not my fault” | |||
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"I spent the first 30 odd years of my life being that person who could eat what they wanted and was still classed as underweight Then I had to have a hysterectomy which put me into instant menopause and gained 3 stone. I've got half of it back off now but have had to change everything to do with my attitude to food
Let's not confuse the 'it's easy, just eat less' (mainly male) brigade by bringing hormones into it lol
This is another misconception woman often have with hormones and weight gain.
Hormones won’t magically cause massive weight gain. They can cause short term small gains in water weight, but not actually weight gain
People don’t go into menopause and put on 3 stone over night.
A change in hormones can effect your TDEE, without your appetite slowing down. This can easily lead to weight gain.
The issue I take is when women completely throw any personal responsibility out the window and say it’s impossible to avoid. The hormones did it.
I’m not saying it’s easy, but it is avoidable. With proper weight management tools and some hard work you can absolutely minimise weight gain due to hormones.
The problem is this idea of “well, gained weight cuz of hormone, not my fault” has spread so far, so many just take it for gospel.
So when the hormones change and weight starts going up, instead of taking a proactive mentality they just give into it.
No one said it would be easy, but it’s very easy to just say “not my fault it’s the hormones” and gain weight. But that only hurts yourself
Spoken like a true man. I never said it was overnight, it took a couple of years but it is a very real thing when your body suddenly goes from producing normal levels of oestrogen to having zero. (I'm not talking about normal menopause here but surgical) there's plenty of research to show that lack of oestrogen contributes to the weigh the body processes sugars so I have to disagree that hormones have no bearing on weight gain, for me it certainly did, I ate in exactly the same way has I had for the previous 38 years of my life where I had struggled to gain as much as a couple of lbs. I even had a dietician involved in weight gain at one point to now having to watch what I eat
If the hormone changes changed your TDEE and you continued to eat the same it’s no surprise you gained weight, which is exactly what I said. It’s totally avoidable.
Have your uterus removed and see how totally unavoidable it really is.
I imagine it would be very difficult but I’d work my best to avoid instead of just succumbing to “hormones, not my fault” "Well I guess we aren't all as perfect as you then are we | |||
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"I spent the first 30 odd years of my life being that person who could eat what they wanted and was still classed as underweight Then I had to have a hysterectomy which put me into instant menopause and gained 3 stone. I've got half of it back off now but have had to change everything to do with my attitude to food
Let's not confuse the 'it's easy, just eat less' (mainly male) brigade by bringing hormones into it lol
This is another misconception woman often have with hormones and weight gain.
Hormones won’t magically cause massive weight gain. They can cause short term small gains in water weight, but not actually weight gain
People don’t go into menopause and put on 3 stone over night.
A change in hormones can effect your TDEE, without your appetite slowing down. This can easily lead to weight gain.
The issue I take is when women completely throw any personal responsibility out the window and say it’s impossible to avoid. The hormones did it.
I’m not saying it’s easy, but it is avoidable. With proper weight management tools and some hard work you can absolutely minimise weight gain due to hormones.
The problem is this idea of “well, gained weight cuz of hormone, not my fault” has spread so far, so many just take it for gospel.
So when the hormones change and weight starts going up, instead of taking a proactive mentality they just give into it.
No one said it would be easy, but it’s very easy to just say “not my fault it’s the hormones” and gain weight. But that only hurts yourself
And here he is ladies! Twisting things as well to fit his own narrative
No one said it was an overnight thing. No one has said they can't lose weight because of hormones.
Changing a lifetime of habit isn't going to happen overnight and I fact weight gain can happen so slowly you don't even notice it.
This 'it's not hard really, is it' attitude is far more damaging to people's weight loss journey. Particularly if they are struggling. Having someone turn round and say you're not even trying is gonna piss you off. If that someone also has psychological issues with food is then going to retreat and comfort eat.
Yes. The science says just eat less(right) and move more. No one is disputing that but all bodies have slight little nuances that make things more difficult.
For example, I have pcos, insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes. All of which make it difficult (not I didn't say impossible!) to lose weight. Add menstruation cycles that are all over the place on top of that as well as other external factors that can cause weight gain and its actually very difficult.
And spoke like a true woman that didn’t read what I put.
I’ve literally saus, it’s not easy, it’s just avoidable.
The whole “it’s not hard is it” attitude is completely wrong
But the whole “it’s hormones, you can’t avoid it” is wrong too
Point me to where anyone said 'it's hormones, you can't avoid it'? I think one person said 'it was hormones but I'm fixing it'. "The way you worded it that is way menopause that caused it was what made me think that. Because menopause didn’t cause it. It caused a change in your TDEE which wasnt closely monitored which lead to accidental over eating. That’s what caused it. That’s the thing I wanna get past. I want people to know you have the power to change these things, to completely avoid them if you work. But whenever you bring that up (see above) women are so quick to jump down your throat. I’ll end it there coz I’ve made my point. You can only help yourself. | |||
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"I spent the first 30 odd years of my life being that person who could eat what they wanted and was still classed as underweight Then I had to have a hysterectomy which put me into instant menopause and gained 3 stone. I've got half of it back off now but have had to change everything to do with my attitude to food
Let's not confuse the 'it's easy, just eat less' (mainly male) brigade by bringing hormones into it lol
This is another misconception woman often have with hormones and weight gain.
Hormones won’t magically cause massive weight gain. They can cause short term small gains in water weight, but not actually weight gain
People don’t go into menopause and put on 3 stone over night.
A change in hormones can effect your TDEE, without your appetite slowing down. This can easily lead to weight gain.
The issue I take is when women completely throw any personal responsibility out the window and say it’s impossible to avoid. The hormones did it.
I’m not saying it’s easy, but it is avoidable. With proper weight management tools and some hard work you can absolutely minimise weight gain due to hormones.
The problem is this idea of “well, gained weight cuz of hormone, not my fault” has spread so far, so many just take it for gospel.
So when the hormones change and weight starts going up, instead of taking a proactive mentality they just give into it.
No one said it would be easy, but it’s very easy to just say “not my fault it’s the hormones” and gain weight. But that only hurts yourself "How about T3 and T4? | |||
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"I spent the first 30 odd years of my life being that person who could eat what they wanted and was still classed as underweight Then I had to have a hysterectomy which put me into instant menopause and gained 3 stone. I've got half of it back off now but have had to change everything to do with my attitude to food
Let's not confuse the 'it's easy, just eat less' (mainly male) brigade by bringing hormones into it lol
This is another misconception woman often have with hormones and weight gain.
Hormones won’t magically cause massive weight gain. They can cause short term small gains in water weight, but not actually weight gain
People don’t go into menopause and put on 3 stone over night.
A change in hormones can effect your TDEE, without your appetite slowing down. This can easily lead to weight gain.
The issue I take is when women completely throw any personal responsibility out the window and say it’s impossible to avoid. The hormones did it.
I’m not saying it’s easy, but it is avoidable. With proper weight management tools and some hard work you can absolutely minimise weight gain due to hormones.
The problem is this idea of “well, gained weight cuz of hormone, not my fault” has spread so far, so many just take it for gospel.
So when the hormones change and weight starts going up, instead of taking a proactive mentality they just give into it.
No one said it would be easy, but it’s very easy to just say “not my fault it’s the hormones” and gain weight. But that only hurts yourself
Spoken like a true man. I never said it was overnight, it took a couple of years but it is a very real thing when your body suddenly goes from producing normal levels of oestrogen to having zero. (I'm not talking about normal menopause here but surgical) there's plenty of research to show that lack of oestrogen contributes to the weigh the body processes sugars so I have to disagree that hormones have no bearing on weight gain, for me it certainly did, I ate in exactly the same way has I had for the previous 38 years of my life where I had struggled to gain as much as a couple of lbs. I even had a dietician involved in weight gain at one point to now having to watch what I eat
If the hormone changes changed your TDEE and you continued to eat the same it’s no surprise you gained weight, which is exactly what I said. It’s totally avoidable.
Have your uterus removed and see how totally unavoidable it really is.
I imagine it would be very difficult but I’d work my best to avoid instead of just succumbing to “hormones, not my fault” "It's also a matter of how your cells decide to use the glucose your body has. There's an interesting Ted Talk on Diabetes I came across a couple of years ago I found educational. Serotonin plays a bit part in appetite and hunger too. I researched that when my psychiatrist handed 7½ stone me a prescription and said "They will make you put on weight" and within a year I was 17½ stone and craving carbs. When I say craving I mean I had to have food loaded with carbs and sugar like Mars Bars and Cola, chicken curry with chips. I'd gone from eating one meal a day and drinking only tea and water, to hoovering up cartons of custard and crap, until my stomach hurt. Now I'm at war with my stomach, who thinks it needs carbs when the sun goes down and I feel tired. | |||
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"I spent the first 30 odd years of my life being that person who could eat what they wanted and was still classed as underweight Then I had to have a hysterectomy which put me into instant menopause and gained 3 stone. I've got half of it back off now but have had to change everything to do with my attitude to food
Let's not confuse the 'it's easy, just eat less' (mainly male) brigade by bringing hormones into it lol
This is another misconception woman often have with hormones and weight gain.
Hormones won’t magically cause massive weight gain. They can cause short term small gains in water weight, but not actually weight gain
People don’t go into menopause and put on 3 stone over night.
A change in hormones can effect your TDEE, without your appetite slowing down. This can easily lead to weight gain.
The issue I take is when women completely throw any personal responsibility out the window and say it’s impossible to avoid. The hormones did it.
I’m not saying it’s easy, but it is avoidable. With proper weight management tools and some hard work you can absolutely minimise weight gain due to hormones.
The problem is this idea of “well, gained weight cuz of hormone, not my fault” has spread so far, so many just take it for gospel.
So when the hormones change and weight starts going up, instead of taking a proactive mentality they just give into it.
No one said it would be easy, but it’s very easy to just say “not my fault it’s the hormones” and gain weight. But that only hurts yourself
Spoken like a true man. I never said it was overnight, it took a couple of years but it is a very real thing when your body suddenly goes from producing normal levels of oestrogen to having zero. (I'm not talking about normal menopause here but surgical) there's plenty of research to show that lack of oestrogen contributes to the weigh the body processes sugars so I have to disagree that hormones have no bearing on weight gain, for me it certainly did, I ate in exactly the same way has I had for the previous 38 years of my life where I had struggled to gain as much as a couple of lbs. I even had a dietician involved in weight gain at one point to now having to watch what I eat
If the hormone changes changed your TDEE and you continued to eat the same it’s no surprise you gained weight, which is exactly what I said. It’s totally avoidable.
Have your uterus removed and see how totally unavoidable it really is.
I imagine it would be very difficult but I’d work my best to avoid instead of just succumbing to “hormones, not my fault” "If course you would never mind the fact that it's a fairly intrusive operation with a lengthy recovery period, throws your body into massive hormonal changes and probably fucks with your head. Among all of the changes your body goes through the thing foremost in your mind is how your hormones are fucking up your weight?
To be perfectly honest I don't think it's that healthy to obsess over your weight when going through a very major life changing event. As the poster who mentioned it as a contributing factor said, they've managed to lose half of the weight but have had to learn to have a completely different relationship with food because of it. | |||
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"I spent the first 30 odd years of my life being that person who could eat what they wanted and was still classed as underweight Then I had to have a hysterectomy which put me into instant menopause and gained 3 stone. I've got half of it back off now but have had to change everything to do with my attitude to food
Let's not confuse the 'it's easy, just eat less' (mainly male) brigade by bringing hormones into it lol
This is another misconception woman often have with hormones and weight gain.
Hormones won’t magically cause massive weight gain. They can cause short term small gains in water weight, but not actually weight gain
People don’t go into menopause and put on 3 stone over night.
A change in hormones can effect your TDEE, without your appetite slowing down. This can easily lead to weight gain.
The issue I take is when women completely throw any personal responsibility out the window and say it’s impossible to avoid. The hormones did it.
I’m not saying it’s easy, but it is avoidable. With proper weight management tools and some hard work you can absolutely minimise weight gain due to hormones.
The problem is this idea of “well, gained weight cuz of hormone, not my fault” has spread so far, so many just take it for gospel.
So when the hormones change and weight starts going up, instead of taking a proactive mentality they just give into it.
No one said it would be easy, but it’s very easy to just say “not my fault it’s the hormones” and gain weight. But that only hurts yourself
And here he is ladies! Twisting things as well to fit his own narrative
No one said it was an overnight thing. No one has said they can't lose weight because of hormones.
Changing a lifetime of habit isn't going to happen overnight and I fact weight gain can happen so slowly you don't even notice it.
This 'it's not hard really, is it' attitude is far more damaging to people's weight loss journey. Particularly if they are struggling. Having someone turn round and say you're not even trying is gonna piss you off. If that someone also has psychological issues with food is then going to retreat and comfort eat.
Yes. The science says just eat less(right) and move more. No one is disputing that but all bodies have slight little nuances that make things more difficult.
For example, I have pcos, insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes. All of which make it difficult (not I didn't say impossible!) to lose weight. Add menstruation cycles that are all over the place on top of that as well as other external factors that can cause weight gain and its actually very difficult.
And spoke like a true woman that didn’t read what I put.
I’ve literally saus, it’s not easy, it’s just avoidable.
The whole “it’s not hard is it” attitude is completely wrong
But the whole “it’s hormones, you can’t avoid it” is wrong too
Point me to where anyone said 'it's hormones, you can't avoid it'? I think one person said 'it was hormones but I'm fixing it'.
The way you worded it that is way menopause that caused it was what made me think that.
Because menopause didn’t cause it. It caused a change in your TDEE which wasnt closely monitored which lead to accidental over eating. That’s what caused it.
That’s the thing I wanna get past. I want people to know you have the power to change these things, to completely avoid them if you work.
But whenever you bring that up (see above) women are so quick to jump down your throat.
I’ll end it there coz I’ve made my point. You can only help yourself."My issue with your comments is how massively judgmental you come across, like someone who has gained weight is somehow inferior to you and that doesn't sit well with me. It was me that said about menopause. If you actually read what I said is that I went into menopause and gained 3 stone, nowhere did I say it was the hormones, but the fact that I continued to eat as I had before. If you also bothered to read the rest I also said that I'd lost half of it by changing my attitude to food, nowhere did I claim that it I felt sorry for myself or that I couldn't do it or it was hard | |||
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"I spent the first 30 odd years of my life being that person who could eat what they wanted and was still classed as underweight Then I had to have a hysterectomy which put me into instant menopause and gained 3 stone. I've got half of it back off now but have had to change everything to do with my attitude to food
Let's not confuse the 'it's easy, just eat less' (mainly male) brigade by bringing hormones into it lol
This is another misconception woman often have with hormones and weight gain.
Hormones won’t magically cause massive weight gain. They can cause short term small gains in water weight, but not actually weight gain
People don’t go into menopause and put on 3 stone over night.
A change in hormones can effect your TDEE, without your appetite slowing down. This can easily lead to weight gain.
The issue I take is when women completely throw any personal responsibility out the window and say it’s impossible to avoid. The hormones did it.
I’m not saying it’s easy, but it is avoidable. With proper weight management tools and some hard work you can absolutely minimise weight gain due to hormones.
The problem is this idea of “well, gained weight cuz of hormone, not my fault” has spread so far, so many just take it for gospel.
So when the hormones change and weight starts going up, instead of taking a proactive mentality they just give into it.
No one said it would be easy, but it’s very easy to just say “not my fault it’s the hormones” and gain weight. But that only hurts yourself "That my friend is actually where you are wrong ... hormones do intrinsically affect weight unfortunately and even more so in ladies! Tell anyone with a thyroid problem that it doesn't directly affect their weight! | |||
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"I spent the first 30 odd years of my life being that person who could eat what they wanted and was still classed as underweight Then I had to have a hysterectomy which put me into instant menopause and gained 3 stone. I've got half of it back off now but have had to change everything to do with my attitude to food
Let's not confuse the 'it's easy, just eat less' (mainly male) brigade by bringing hormones into it lol
This is another misconception woman often have with hormones and weight gain.
Hormones won’t magically cause massive weight gain. They can cause short term small gains in water weight, but not actually weight gain
People don’t go into menopause and put on 3 stone over night.
A change in hormones can effect your TDEE, without your appetite slowing down. This can easily lead to weight gain.
The issue I take is when women completely throw any personal responsibility out the window and say it’s impossible to avoid. The hormones did it.
I’m not saying it’s easy, but it is avoidable. With proper weight management tools and some hard work you can absolutely minimise weight gain due to hormones.
The problem is this idea of “well, gained weight cuz of hormone, not my fault” has spread so far, so many just take it for gospel.
So when the hormones change and weight starts going up, instead of taking a proactive mentality they just give into it.
No one said it would be easy, but it’s very easy to just say “not my fault it’s the hormones” and gain weight. But that only hurts yourself
That my friend is actually where you are wrong ... hormones do intrinsically affect weight unfortunately and even more so in ladies! Tell anyone with a thyroid problem that it doesn't directly affect their weight! "I have mentioned T3 and T4 above. Even the tiniest change in those levels can have a direct effect on metabolism and there's no diet or exercise in the world that will help | |||
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"I spent the first 30 odd years of my life being that person who could eat what they wanted and was still classed as underweight Then I had to have a hysterectomy which put me into instant menopause and gained 3 stone. I've got half of it back off now but have had to change everything to do with my attitude to food
Let's not confuse the 'it's easy, just eat less' (mainly male) brigade by bringing hormones into it lol
Haha, I always find that me and Mr can do exactly the same thing diet wise and he'll lose twice as much as me, so annoying, especially as I'm heavier than him!"I have the same issue with my partner. He lives off a very carb heavy diet and drinks beer. I go to the gym 4-6 hours a week and eat a healthy diet with the occasional treat. He's still only a medium but decides he doesn't like having a bit of belly podge, decides to start walking to work and loses half a stone! Not fair . | |||
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"I spent the first 30 odd years of my life being that person who could eat what they wanted and was still classed as underweight Then I had to have a hysterectomy which put me into instant menopause and gained 3 stone. I've got half of it back off now but have had to change everything to do with my attitude to food
Let's not confuse the 'it's easy, just eat less' (mainly male) brigade by bringing hormones into it lol
This is another misconception woman often have with hormones and weight gain.
Hormones won’t magically cause massive weight gain. They can cause short term small gains in water weight, but not actually weight gain
People don’t go into menopause and put on 3 stone over night.
A change in hormones can effect your TDEE, without your appetite slowing down. This can easily lead to weight gain.
The issue I take is when women completely throw any personal responsibility out the window and say it’s impossible to avoid. The hormones did it.
I’m not saying it’s easy, but it is avoidable. With proper weight management tools and some hard work you can absolutely minimise weight gain due to hormones.
The problem is this idea of “well, gained weight cuz of hormone, not my fault” has spread so far, so many just take it for gospel.
So when the hormones change and weight starts going up, instead of taking a proactive mentality they just give into it.
No one said it would be easy, but it’s very easy to just say “not my fault it’s the hormones” and gain weight. But that only hurts yourself
Spoken like a true man. I never said it was overnight, it took a couple of years but it is a very real thing when your body suddenly goes from producing normal levels of oestrogen to having zero. (I'm not talking about normal menopause here but surgical) there's plenty of research to show that lack of oestrogen contributes to the weigh the body processes sugars so I have to disagree that hormones have no bearing on weight gain, for me it certainly did, I ate in exactly the same way has I had for the previous 38 years of my life where I had struggled to gain as much as a couple of lbs. I even had a dietician involved in weight gain at one point to now having to watch what I eat
If the hormone changes changed your TDEE and you continued to eat the same it’s no surprise you gained weight, which is exactly what I said. It’s totally avoidable.
Have your uterus removed and see how totally unavoidable it really is.
I imagine it would be very difficult but I’d work my best to avoid instead of just succumbing to “hormones, not my fault”
It's also a matter of how your cells decide to use the glucose your body has. There's an interesting Ted Talk on Diabetes I came across a couple of years ago I found educational.
Serotonin plays a bit part in appetite and hunger too. I researched that when my psychiatrist handed 7½ stone me a prescription and said "They will make you put on weight" and within a year I was 17½ stone and craving carbs.
When I say craving I mean I had to have food loaded with carbs and sugar like Mars Bars and Cola, chicken curry with chips.
I'd gone from eating one meal a day and drinking only tea and water, to hoovering up cartons of custard and crap, until my stomach hurt.
Now I'm at war with my stomach, who thinks it needs carbs when the sun goes down and I feel tired.
"The seretonin thing is interesting. That explains why when I was depressed I had zero interest in food and trying to force myself to eat was awful. I don't think my brain responded right to supplementing seretonin though as antidepressants just made me feel like my skin was crawling. It didn't help to improve my appetite at all unfortunately. My experience with them doesn't seem to be very typical though. | |||
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"I really don't believe in 'eat what you want but in moderation'........ People want doughnuts, chocolate and crisps...... what's moderation here ? One a day , one a week ? Any less than one a week and we are not 'eating what we want' but treating once per week. Eat REAL unprocessed food. Eat when you are hungry. Keep on the move ( no need for gyms - mums of toddlers, walker, people who clean their homes or cars yada yada it's all exercise ) Don't eat late at night ( say like after 7.30 or 8.00 ) Don't stay up late you will want another meal. Balance what you eat. You don't need loads of carbs unless you are a very hard manual worker. Never cut food groups. Balance your macros to suit YOU and your activity levels. Stay hydrated. Being thirsty is often mistaken for hunger. P.S. This is NOT a diet. It's self love. You deserve it. Obviously you have to have the right mindset. There’s nothing wrong with having a donut, chocolate or crisps. If you have the craving, then that’s your body telling you that it needs sugar, carbs or whatever. Do it in moderation. Nope. That's your body craving a fix. One doughnut leads to two leads to three...... People who are struggling wouldn't find it easy to restrict if they see that they can 'eat what they want' ..... A diet of shite got them there in the first place. Needing a bit of sugar? Have a nana or other fruit. A doughnut contains nothing but flour and sugar and has the same calorie content as a light meal. Choice is everything. One doughnut a day is 3.500 calories the equivalent of one pound of fat or 10 hours on a treadmill. " Did you deliberately ignore my comment about mindset and moderation to make your argument valid? 
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"I spent the first 30 odd years of my life being that person who could eat what they wanted and was still classed as underweight Then I had to have a hysterectomy which put me into instant menopause and gained 3 stone. I've got half of it back off now but have had to change everything to do with my attitude to food
Let's not confuse the 'it's easy, just eat less' (mainly male) brigade by bringing hormones into it lol
This is another misconception woman often have with hormones and weight gain.
Hormones won’t magically cause massive weight gain. They can cause short term small gains in water weight, but not actually weight gain
People don’t go into menopause and put on 3 stone over night.
A change in hormones can effect your TDEE, without your appetite slowing down. This can easily lead to weight gain.
The issue I take is when women completely throw any personal responsibility out the window and say it’s impossible to avoid. The hormones did it.
I’m not saying it’s easy, but it is avoidable. With proper weight management tools and some hard work you can absolutely minimise weight gain due to hormones.
The problem is this idea of “well, gained weight cuz of hormone, not my fault” has spread so far, so many just take it for gospel.
So when the hormones change and weight starts going up, instead of taking a proactive mentality they just give into it.
No one said it would be easy, but it’s very easy to just say “not my fault it’s the hormones” and gain weight. But that only hurts yourself
Spoken like a true man. I never said it was overnight, it took a couple of years but it is a very real thing when your body suddenly goes from producing normal levels of oestrogen to having zero. (I'm not talking about normal menopause here but surgical) there's plenty of research to show that lack of oestrogen contributes to the weigh the body processes sugars so I have to disagree that hormones have no bearing on weight gain, for me it certainly did, I ate in exactly the same way has I had for the previous 38 years of my life where I had struggled to gain as much as a couple of lbs. I even had a dietician involved in weight gain at one point to now having to watch what I eat
If the hormone changes changed your TDEE and you continued to eat the same it’s no surprise you gained weight, which is exactly what I said. It’s totally avoidable.
Have your uterus removed and see how totally unavoidable it really is.
I imagine it would be very difficult but I’d work my best to avoid instead of just succumbing to “hormones, not my fault”
It's also a matter of how your cells decide to use the glucose your body has. There's an interesting Ted Talk on Diabetes I came across a couple of years ago I found educational.
Serotonin plays a bit part in appetite and hunger too. I researched that when my psychiatrist handed 7½ stone me a prescription and said "They will make you put on weight" and within a year I was 17½ stone and craving carbs.
When I say craving I mean I had to have food loaded with carbs and sugar like Mars Bars and Cola, chicken curry with chips.
I'd gone from eating one meal a day and drinking only tea and water, to hoovering up cartons of custard and crap, until my stomach hurt.
Now I'm at war with my stomach, who thinks it needs carbs when the sun goes down and I feel tired.
The seretonin thing is interesting. That explains why when I was depressed I had zero interest in food and trying to force myself to eat was awful. I don't think my brain responded right to supplementing seretonin though as antidepressants just made me feel like my skin was crawling. It didn't help to improve my appetite at all unfortunately. My experience with them doesn't seem to be very typical though. "Have you heard of L-tryptophan? It’s increases the levels of serotonin. | |||
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I get it - it's impossible to relate to how PMT or going through the menopause feels because you will never have to endure it.
I am aware of calories in and calories out and TDEE, wholefoods, moving more etc ..
But it still doesn't change my emotional attachment to food.
I have been overweight since I was a child - that's 46yrs of battles with my weight.
Like I said before - it's better not to get fat in the first place because you will always struggle.
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"I spent the first 30 odd years of my life being that person who could eat what they wanted and was still classed as underweight Then I had to have a hysterectomy which put me into instant menopause and gained 3 stone. I've got half of it back off now but have had to change everything to do with my attitude to food
Let's not confuse the 'it's easy, just eat less' (mainly male) brigade by bringing hormones into it lol
This is another misconception woman often have with hormones and weight gain.
Hormones won’t magically cause massive weight gain. They can cause short term small gains in water weight, but not actually weight gain
People don’t go into menopause and put on 3 stone over night.
A change in hormones can effect your TDEE, without your appetite slowing down. This can easily lead to weight gain.
The issue I take is when women completely throw any personal responsibility out the window and say it’s impossible to avoid. The hormones did it.
I’m not saying it’s easy, but it is avoidable. With proper weight management tools and some hard work you can absolutely minimise weight gain due to hormones.
The problem is this idea of “well, gained weight cuz of hormone, not my fault” has spread so far, so many just take it for gospel.
So when the hormones change and weight starts going up, instead of taking a proactive mentality they just give into it.
No one said it would be easy, but it’s very easy to just say “not my fault it’s the hormones” and gain weight. But that only hurts yourself
Spoken like a true man. I never said it was overnight, it took a couple of years but it is a very real thing when your body suddenly goes from producing normal levels of oestrogen to having zero. (I'm not talking about normal menopause here but surgical) there's plenty of research to show that lack of oestrogen contributes to the weigh the body processes sugars so I have to disagree that hormones have no bearing on weight gain, for me it certainly did, I ate in exactly the same way has I had for the previous 38 years of my life where I had struggled to gain as much as a couple of lbs. I even had a dietician involved in weight gain at one point to now having to watch what I eat
If the hormone changes changed your TDEE and you continued to eat the same it’s no surprise you gained weight, which is exactly what I said. It’s totally avoidable.
Have your uterus removed and see how totally unavoidable it really is.
I imagine it would be very difficult but I’d work my best to avoid instead of just succumbing to “hormones, not my fault”
It's also a matter of how your cells decide to use the glucose your body has. There's an interesting Ted Talk on Diabetes I came across a couple of years ago I found educational.
Serotonin plays a bit part in appetite and hunger too. I researched that when my psychiatrist handed 7½ stone me a prescription and said "They will make you put on weight" and within a year I was 17½ stone and craving carbs.
When I say craving I mean I had to have food loaded with carbs and sugar like Mars Bars and Cola, chicken curry with chips.
I'd gone from eating one meal a day and drinking only tea and water, to hoovering up cartons of custard and crap, until my stomach hurt.
Now I'm at war with my stomach, who thinks it needs carbs when the sun goes down and I feel tired.
The seretonin thing is interesting. That explains why when I was depressed I had zero interest in food and trying to force myself to eat was awful. I don't think my brain responded right to supplementing seretonin though as antidepressants just made me feel like my skin was crawling. It didn't help to improve my appetite at all unfortunately. My experience with them doesn't seem to be very typical though.
Have you heard of L-tryptophan? It’s increases the levels of serotonin. "No but a partner bought me 5-htp supplements which Google says are related? Didn't really notice much difference with them. The only thing I've ever found noticeably beneficial is Omega 3. | |||
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"I spent the first 30 odd years of my life being that person who could eat what they wanted and was still classed as underweight Then I had to have a hysterectomy which put me into instant menopause and gained 3 stone. I've got half of it back off now but have had to change everything to do with my attitude to food
Let's not confuse the 'it's easy, just eat less' (mainly male) brigade by bringing hormones into it lol
This is another misconception woman often have with hormones and weight gain.
Hormones won’t magically cause massive weight gain. They can cause short term small gains in water weight, but not actually weight gain
People don’t go into menopause and put on 3 stone over night.
A change in hormones can effect your TDEE, without your appetite slowing down. This can easily lead to weight gain.
The issue I take is when women completely throw any personal responsibility out the window and say it’s impossible to avoid. The hormones did it.
I’m not saying it’s easy, but it is avoidable. With proper weight management tools and some hard work you can absolutely minimise weight gain due to hormones.
The problem is this idea of “well, gained weight cuz of hormone, not my fault” has spread so far, so many just take it for gospel.
So when the hormones change and weight starts going up, instead of taking a proactive mentality they just give into it.
No one said it would be easy, but it’s very easy to just say “not my fault it’s the hormones” and gain weight. But that only hurts yourself
Spoken like a true man. I never said it was overnight, it took a couple of years but it is a very real thing when your body suddenly goes from producing normal levels of oestrogen to having zero. (I'm not talking about normal menopause here but surgical) there's plenty of research to show that lack of oestrogen contributes to the weigh the body processes sugars so I have to disagree that hormones have no bearing on weight gain, for me it certainly did, I ate in exactly the same way has I had for the previous 38 years of my life where I had struggled to gain as much as a couple of lbs. I even had a dietician involved in weight gain at one point to now having to watch what I eat
If the hormone changes changed your TDEE and you continued to eat the same it’s no surprise you gained weight, which is exactly what I said. It’s totally avoidable.
Have your uterus removed and see how totally unavoidable it really is.
I imagine it would be very difficult but I’d work my best to avoid instead of just succumbing to “hormones, not my fault”
It's also a matter of how your cells decide to use the glucose your body has. There's an interesting Ted Talk on Diabetes I came across a couple of years ago I found educational.
Serotonin plays a bit part in appetite and hunger too. I researched that when my psychiatrist handed 7½ stone me a prescription and said "They will make you put on weight" and within a year I was 17½ stone and craving carbs.
When I say craving I mean I had to have food loaded with carbs and sugar like Mars Bars and Cola, chicken curry with chips.
I'd gone from eating one meal a day and drinking only tea and water, to hoovering up cartons of custard and crap, until my stomach hurt.
Now I'm at war with my stomach, who thinks it needs carbs when the sun goes down and I feel tired.
The seretonin thing is interesting. That explains why when I was depressed I had zero interest in food and trying to force myself to eat was awful. I don't think my brain responded right to supplementing seretonin though as antidepressants just made me feel like my skin was crawling. It didn't help to improve my appetite at all unfortunately. My experience with them doesn't seem to be very typical though.
Have you heard of L-tryptophan? It’s increases the levels of serotonin.
No but a partner bought me 5-htp supplements which Google says are related? Didn't really notice much difference with them. The only thing I've ever found noticeably beneficial is Omega 3."I tried 5-htp, but found L-tryptophan worked better, and now I take 1 of each | |||
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"I would say that the main thing is that they arent sustainable for a long period of time as most of those diets are quick fixes that cut the calories to low, then the person gain the weight back if they stop it, the key is to find a sustainable diet. I follow flexible dieting which I find easy and it helps me to stay lean year round as you can eat all the foods that you like, bring the food into the circle not out, what diet do you follow? "I don’t follow a diet Shag, never have, never will, I don’t think it’s healthy to have that type of relationship with food, but some people seem obsessed with them, if that’s your thing then great, but most people have far more rewarding and interesting things to focus on. | |||
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"I would say that the main thing is that they arent sustainable for a long period of time as most of those diets are quick fixes that cut the calories to low, then the person gain the weight back if they stop it, the key is to find a sustainable diet. I follow flexible dieting which I find easy and it helps me to stay lean year round as you can eat all the foods that you like, bring the food into the circle not out, what diet do you follow?
I don’t follow a diet Shag, never have, never will, I don’t think it’s healthy to have that type of relationship with food, but some people seem obsessed with them, if that’s your thing then great, but most people have far more rewarding and interesting things to focus on. "
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"I would say that the main thing is that they arent sustainable for a long period of time as most of those diets are quick fixes that cut the calories to low, then the person gain the weight back if they stop it, the key is to find a sustainable diet. I follow flexible dieting which I find easy and it helps me to stay lean year round as you can eat all the foods that you like, bring the food into the circle not out, what diet do you follow?
I don’t follow a diet Shag, never have, never will, I don’t think it’s healthy to have that type of relationship with food, but some people seem obsessed with them, if that’s your thing then great, but most people have far more rewarding and interesting things to focus on. "That is good and yes. I like the obsession with it as I like to maintain my 6pack, so I have to be very strict in that way too | |||
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"Intermittent fasting works well for us!" Yes me too. Have used various length fast fitted around normal eating ( feast famine) Also try to eat as clean as possible with as little processed foods as poss and good quality less quantity of food. Works for me. | |||
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"Because sugar is addictive. "Yes, it can be that too | |||
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