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NHS Dentistry: 4 nations

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By *orny PT OP   Man
over a year ago

Peterborough

4 different price lists and waiting lists.

NHS England is a nightmare for affordable and available treatment. What's it like in the other nations since devolution?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

I paid about £60 for an extraction last month. The amount of pain I was in I consider that quite reasonable.

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By *arker secrets 321Man
over a year ago

West Bromwich

Waiting over 6 months now 4 a crown should have ad it 2 wks ago dentist cancelled death in family .iv paid 286pounds 4 it x

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By *orny PT OP   Man
over a year ago

Peterborough

Yes it's money well spent but if you were in Scotland...

Then you would have paid a lot less: £7.32 according to Scottish dental in 2019.

We get the rough end of the stick here in England, when it comes to charges.

Price list

Examination no charge

Two small X-rays £5.12

Simple gum treatment(scale & polish) £11.68

Small amalgam (silver) filing £7.96

Large amalgam (silver) filing £20.40

Root canal treatment (front tooth) £43.00

Single crown (front tooth) £77.36

Simple extraction (one tooth) £7.32

Complete (upper and lower)dentures £161.52

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By *orny PT OP   Man
over a year ago

Peterborough


"Waiting over 6 months now 4 a crown should have ad it 2 wks ago dentist cancelled death in family .iv paid 286pounds 4 it x

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So why can't they get a locum? These clinics charge an absolute fortune.

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By *imi_RougeWoman
over a year ago

Portsmouth

What's a dentist?! Can't get in for love nor money here.

I had an emergency extraction a while back, 65 quid well spent.

But haven't been since!

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By *arker secrets 321Man
over a year ago

West Bromwich

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By *arker secrets 321Man
over a year ago

West Bromwich


"Waiting over 6 months now 4 a crown should have ad it 2 wks ago dentist cancelled death in family .iv paid 286pounds 4 it x

So why can't they get a locum? These clinics charge an absolute fortune."

They av orther dentist but can't get hour plus time slot 2 suit me

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London


"What's a dentist?! Can't get in for love nor money here.

I had an emergency extraction a while back, 65 quid well spent.

But haven't been since!"

Same here. All most of us are left with is emergency and not preventative treatment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Once people can travel again get your teeth sorted in Poland.

It's much cheaper and the work is just as good.

Cheap flight and hotel sorted

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By *orny PT OP   Man
over a year ago

Peterborough


"Once people can travel again get your teeth sorted in Poland.

It's much cheaper and the work is just as good.

Cheap flight and hotel sorted"

My partner's Polish...so we've had this chat. I've no passport.

I did mention this to a BUPA surgery, near me and they are so snobbish to foreign surgery as it's not as good as NHS work. Pure marketing bullshit, if you ask me.

I did publish the Scottish NHS prices above, or is NHS Scotland not good enough in NHS England's eyes? (He said sarcastically)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It sounds a pretty expensive job. I’m fortunate that beyond a check up a couple of times a year and the occasional polish I’ve never needed any dental work.

I should have had a brace when I was a teenager but at the time I refused. I regret that now and enquired about getting one a few years ago but it was going to be about £5000

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By *lbinoGorillaMan
over a year ago

Redditch

One thing I don't understand is that people pay to see an NHS dentist without too much issue, but if you mention maybe a charge of £30 to see a GP - even refunded if you actually turn up to the appointment - people go bat shit crazy with indignation at the idea

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By *orny PT OP   Man
over a year ago

Peterborough


"One thing I don't understand is that people pay to see an NHS dentist without too much issue, but if you mention maybe a charge of £30 to see a GP - even refunded if you actually turn up to the appointment - people go bat shit crazy with indignation at the idea"

It's not out of choice, it's health vs wealth. don't make us choose.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

We experienced such poor care from NHS dentists and a lot of the work they did had to be done privately anyway that we went private. We reckon we've actually saved money and received better care and dental work.

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By *orny PT OP   Man
over a year ago

Peterborough


"We experienced such poor care from NHS dentists and a lot of the work they did had to be done privately anyway that we went private. We reckon we've actually saved money and received better care and dental work."

Tell me more.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"One thing I don't understand is that people pay to see an NHS dentist without too much issue, but if you mention maybe a charge of £30 to see a GP - even refunded if you actually turn up to the appointment - people go bat shit crazy with indignation at the idea"

I think that's because when the NHS was founded it was promised to be 'free at the point of delivery'.

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By *orny PT OP   Man
over a year ago

Peterborough


"One thing I don't understand is that people pay to see an NHS dentist without too much issue, but if you mention maybe a charge of £30 to see a GP - even refunded if you actually turn up to the appointment - people go bat shit crazy with indignation at the idea

I think that's because when the NHS was founded it was promised to be 'free at the point of delivery'."

Yes.

That's before Maggie came along and went privatisation mad. If her own party hadn't had dragged her out of number 10, we'd have to shop around for Water companies and even Council Taxes...Oh what joy that would be.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"We experienced such poor care from NHS dentists and a lot of the work they did had to be done privately anyway that we went private. We reckon we've actually saved money and received better care and dental work.

Tell me more."

We've paid a similar amount overall for better care. We believe the dentistry is better.

This wasn't the case about 15 years ago and before. I went to an excellent NHS dentist but I think things have changed since then and standards have dropped. There also seems to be fewer treatments funded by NHS.

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By *orny PT OP   Man
over a year ago

Peterborough


"We experienced such poor care from NHS dentists and a lot of the work they did had to be done privately anyway that we went private. We reckon we've actually saved money and received better care and dental work.

Tell me more.

We've paid a similar amount overall for better care. We believe the dentistry is better.

This wasn't the case about 15 years ago and before. I went to an excellent NHS dentist but I think things have changed since then and standards have dropped. There also seems to be fewer treatments funded by NHS."

That's my suspicions confirmed. Funny how whenever there's a video on how wonderful the NHS is, dentistry never gets mentioned nor the fact that England has prescription charges.

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By *orny PT OP   Man
over a year ago

Peterborough


"It sounds a pretty expensive job. I’m fortunate that beyond a check up a couple of times a year and the occasional polish I’ve never needed any dental work.

I should have had a brace when I was a teenager but at the time I refused. I regret that now and enquired about getting one a few years ago but it was going to be about £5000 "

Have a look at destination smile, see if that's better for you. Otherwise try NHS Scotland/Wales/Northern Ireland. Email their surgeries direct and see how things are different across the border.

Hope that helps.

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By *lbinoGorillaMan
over a year ago

Redditch


"One thing I don't understand is that people pay to see an NHS dentist without too much issue, but if you mention maybe a charge of £30 to see a GP - even refunded if you actually turn up to the appointment - people go bat shit crazy with indignation at the idea

I think that's because when the NHS was founded it was promised to be 'free at the point of delivery'."

Oh, yes, I realise that. But that doesn't mean it's a free service.

And I'm only suggesting a cover charge to apply to people who make appointments and don't keep them, this denying someone else the opportunity.

Also, if everything about the NHS is meant to be free at the point of delivery, how come we accept having to contribute towards dentistry?

And I know they this is a separate argument, but this discussion also shows why the NHS can never be reformed - it's the closest thing we have to a national religion in this country now and is considered sacrosanct, so no one can suggest changing it in any way. Regardless of whether it's actually fit for purpose for not, or cannot possibly hope to supply the demands placed on it

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By *iamondCougarWoman
over a year ago

Norfuck! / Lincolnshire


"One thing I don't understand is that people pay to see an NHS dentist without too much issue, but if you mention maybe a charge of £30 to see a GP - even refunded if you actually turn up to the appointment - people go bat shit crazy with indignation at the idea

I think that's because when the NHS was founded it was promised to be 'free at the point of delivery'.

Oh, yes, I realise that. But that doesn't mean it's a free service.

And I'm only suggesting a cover charge to apply to people who make appointments and don't keep them, this denying someone else the opportunity.

Also, if everything about the NHS is meant to be free at the point of delivery, how come we accept having to contribute towards dentistry?

And I know they this is a separate argument, but this discussion also shows why the NHS can never be reformed - it's the closest thing we have to a national religion in this country now and is considered sacrosanct, so no one can suggest changing it in any way. Regardless of whether it's actually fit for purpose for not, or cannot possibly hope to supply the demands placed on it"

I think there should be a nominal fee for GP appointment (with exceptions) and pensions pay a nominal 50p per item towards their prescriptions. It’s the OAPs that contribute to the most wastage

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By *orny PT OP   Man
over a year ago

Peterborough


"One thing I don't understand is that people pay to see an NHS dentist without too much issue, but if you mention maybe a charge of £30 to see a GP - even refunded if you actually turn up to the appointment - people go bat shit crazy with indignation at the idea

I think that's because when the NHS was founded it was promised to be 'free at the point of delivery'.

Oh, yes, I realise that. But that doesn't mean it's a free service.

And I'm only suggesting a cover charge to apply to people who make appointments and don't keep them, this denying someone else the opportunity.

Also, if everything about the NHS is meant to be free at the point of delivery, how come we accept having to contribute towards dentistry?

And I know they this is a separate argument, but this discussion also shows why the NHS can never be reformed - it's the closest thing we have to a national religion in this country now and is considered sacrosanct, so no one can suggest changing it in any way. Regardless of whether it's actually fit for purpose for not, or cannot possibly hope to supply the demands placed on it

I think there should be a nominal fee for GP appointment (with exceptions) and pensions pay a nominal 50p per item towards their prescriptions. It’s the OAPs that contribute to the most wastage"

True, as there's no need for mega cheap paracetamol to go on prescription.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

Our NHS dentist saw us for routine check ups in March. We paid the basic band 1 price, each. Free child. Easy to book, easy to go there despite the pandemic - we've had no problems BUT our dentist is in the city we lived in as uni students, which is when we registered at the practice. We cannot get an NHS dentist in the adjacent Greater Manchester town but it's no hardship because we both work in the city anyway.

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