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"I once arranged her mortgage ,years ago. She was lovely ." She wasn't big bother then? | |||
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"I'm perimenopausal (I think!). I've had 2 periods in 8 months, in a way it's quite nice but that's the only symptom as yet. My nursey friend told me there's a blood test you can have to confirm whether you are in the menopause or not, but they don't offer it. DM said that the warnings/symptom list from the hrt is out of date and they have not been printing the new ones off until recently. New research shows that there is less risk of breast cancer than they thought many years ago! " You can buy tests from the pharmacy which are like pregnancy tests that tell you your levels. Not sure how accurate they are though | |||
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"I'm perimenopausal (I think!). I've had 2 periods in 8 months, in a way it's quite nice but that's the only symptom as yet. My nursey friend told me there's a blood test you can have to confirm whether you are in the menopause or not, but they don't offer it. DM said that the warnings/symptom list from the hrt is out of date and they have not been printing the new ones off until recently. New research shows that there is less risk of breast cancer than they thought many years ago! You can buy tests from the pharmacy which are like pregnancy tests that tell you your levels. Not sure how accurate they are though " I didn't know that, thanks ![]() | |||
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"Eye opening programme and much needed. So much ignorance around menopause, and so much stigma. Anything that helps demystify menopause has got to be a good thing." God, yes! | |||
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"Eye opening programme and much needed. So much ignorance around menopause, and so much stigma. Anything that helps demystify menopause has got to be a good thing." Yes. People still use 'menopausal woman' as an insult too. | |||
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"Anyone watching? So informative. She's great. Anyone taking hrt? She's just been saying that only 1 in 10 women take it, which I was very surprised about." Yes found it very good...no to HRT TAKING THE Alternative route to begin with ,the brain fog etc etc etc is awful need chocolate lol | |||
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"Eye opening programme and much needed. So much ignorance around menopause, and so much stigma. Anything that helps demystify menopause has got to be a good thing." Quite agree, my mum sailed through so hasn't got a clue when I talk to her about it | |||
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"What shocked me as a bloke is that the training for GPs is so poor, not good enough and I can't help think if this was a process men went through then it would be better addressed.. There's a petition running, saw it in the guardian to order Government by to look at the training for GPs.." Yes, that's quite shocking isn't it? I thought the Muslim doctor was amazing. | |||
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"What shocked me as a bloke is that the training for GPs is so poor, not good enough and I can't help think if this was a process men went through then it would be better addressed.. There's a petition running, saw it in the guardian to order Government by to look at the training for GPs.." Unfortunately, this is the case for many issues that are specific to women. Remember, hysteria is the reason a hysterectomy is so called.... ![]() | |||
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"I'm perimenopausal (I think!). I've had 2 periods in 8 months, in a way it's quite nice but that's the only symptom as yet. My nursey friend told me there's a blood test you can have to confirm whether you are in the menopause or not, but they don't offer it. DM said that the warnings/symptom list from the hrt is out of date and they have not been printing the new ones off until recently. New research shows that there is less risk of breast cancer than they thought many years ago! " There is a lab that advertises on Facebook that they will do detailed blood test for hormone levels for £150 and then give you the info to take to your GP or you can get private prescription from them. | |||
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"I'm perimenopausal (I think!). I've had 2 periods in 8 months, in a way it's quite nice but that's the only symptom as yet. My nursey friend told me there's a blood test you can have to confirm whether you are in the menopause or not, but they don't offer it. DM said that the warnings/symptom list from the hrt is out of date and they have not been printing the new ones off until recently. New research shows that there is less risk of breast cancer than they thought many years ago! There is a lab that advertises on Facebook that they will do detailed blood test for hormone levels for £150 and then give you the info to take to your GP or you can get private prescription from them." Expensive | |||
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"What shocked me as a bloke is that the training for GPs is so poor, not good enough and I can't help think if this was a process men went through then it would be better addressed.. There's a petition running, saw it in the guardian to order Government by to look at the training for GPs.." Unfortunately GP's are often the runt of the litter who are almost guaranteed a position because they are so scarce. | |||
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"I'm perimenopausal (I think!). I've had 2 periods in 8 months, in a way it's quite nice but that's the only symptom as yet. My nursey friend told me there's a blood test you can have to confirm whether you are in the menopause or not, but they don't offer it. DM said that the warnings/symptom list from the hrt is out of date and they have not been printing the new ones off until recently. New research shows that there is less risk of breast cancer than they thought many years ago! There is a lab that advertises on Facebook that they will do detailed blood test for hormone levels for £150 and then give you the info to take to your GP or you can get private prescription from them. Expensive" Not expensive for private sector. I hope you don't want to go abroad on holiday this year - the cost of Covid tests will give you a heart attack. ![]() | |||
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"Anyone watching? So informative. She's great. Anyone taking hrt? She's just been saying that only 1 in 10 women take it, which I was very surprised about." I found it strange and sad that the updated breast cancer/ HRT link information hasn't been widely publicised. ![]() | |||
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"How do you know if you should be taking hrt? What does it do?? " Replaces the oestrogen. I had to go in and describe my symptoms but it took them like 3 visits. | |||
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"I'm perimenopausal (I think!). I've had 2 periods in 8 months, in a way it's quite nice but that's the only symptom as yet. My nursey friend told me there's a blood test you can have to confirm whether you are in the menopause or not, but they don't offer it. DM said that the warnings/symptom list from the hrt is out of date and they have not been printing the new ones off until recently. New research shows that there is less risk of breast cancer than they thought many years ago! " My GP ordered the test and it cane back that i am peri. | |||
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"What shocked me as a bloke is that the training for GPs is so poor, not good enough and I can't help think if this was a process men went through then it would be better addressed.. There's a petition running, saw it in the guardian to order Government by to look at the training for GPs.." Also as a bloke had the same thoughts. So for 50% of the population it feels like we are stumbling around in the 1940s as far as health and medication. It's shocking. If just assumed that womens health was being looked after by our NHS but it would seem very far from it. Take a few anti depressants or pain relief and bugger off. That and poor diagnosis for endometriosis or drugs that are only tested on males but given to females and just expected to be efficacious. Great program. | |||
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"How do you know if you should be taking hrt? What does it do?? Replaces the oestrogen. I had to go in and describe my symptoms but it took them like 3 visits. " Oh you do exist. ![]() | |||
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"After reading this , I might give the programme a go but I really find Davina irritating to the nth degree. I'll watch it for the other info. The comment above about HRT and cancer links.... My doc tried to warn me about HRT and cancer links so I did my own research. The incidents of cancer were so low it was like warning people not to eat an ice cream in case you drown but do your own research on that one. I went back for the HRT. I've never been for a mammogram for much the same reason BUT do your own research on that too. Periods / sanitary towels / incontinence ..... all overlooked for no other reason than you are a WOMAN. Don't overlook that HYSTERectomies were given to HYSTERICAL women because well ....... women are mad, screaming, difficult creatures. " Granny hits the nail on the head, as always. Granny for PM ![]() | |||
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"Anyone watching? So informative. She's great. Anyone taking hrt? She's just been saying that only 1 in 10 women take it, which I was very surprised about." My colleague just told me about this so I'm going to find it on catch up if possible and watch it. I'm not one for HRT, my mum was on it and it contributed to her cancer diagnosis which she died from so I'd rather put up with being radgey and feeling like someone dropped me into hell than take that risk ![]() | |||
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"After watching it last night we had to ask why would any health organisation pay heed to a study carried out by the Americans then base their future treatment for their female population upon it? The mind boggles ![]() It absolutely boggles. An incomplete and flawed study at that. Contrast that with the approach to the c word... Covid? I seriously can't believe the lack of quality research into matters that are guaranteed to effect 50% of the population. Its scandalous. | |||
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"After watching it last night we had to ask why would any health organisation pay heed to a study carried out by the Americans then base their future treatment for their female population upon it? The mind boggles ![]() Women have been saying this for a long time, that women's health is not taken seriously, but here we are. There's plenty of research showing that doctors (gender irrelevant) assume pain experienced by women has an emotional origin and are more likely to prescribe anti depressants rather than investigate why they have pain. When men report pain, organic disease is more likely to be assumed and investigated. It's what Granny said above about hysteria. It's Victorian medical attitudes still pervading medical training and treatment. | |||
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"I'm perimenopausal (I think!). I've had 2 periods in 8 months, in a way it's quite nice but that's the only symptom as yet. My nursey friend told me there's a blood test you can have to confirm whether you are in the menopause or not, but they don't offer it. DM said that the warnings/symptom list from the hrt is out of date and they have not been printing the new ones off until recently. New research shows that there is less risk of breast cancer than they thought many years ago! " Oooooh, I think I'm peri too. Very odd dates and lengths. I'll have to look up this programme. Thanks for the info. | |||
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"I can't stand Davina - but it's an interesting subject so I might have a look - what channel was it on? I'm not experiencing any symptoms yet - I'm a bit worried about it all to be honest ![]() Don't worry until you have to. I had very few symptoms and you might not either. Because menopause isn't openly discussed the bad stuff tends to be all that's mentioned so we tend to assume it will definitely happen to us too. The freedom that comes with a lack of periods is wonderful and not worrying about contraception another benefit. One thing I will say to all women. If you had stitches after child birth start moisturising the scar now. | |||
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"I can't stand Davina - but it's an interesting subject so I might have a look - what channel was it on? I'm not experiencing any symptoms yet - I'm a bit worried about it all to be honest ![]() What do you moisturise with? Had 3rd degree tears after my kids. | |||
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"I can't stand Davina - but it's an interesting subject so I might have a look - what channel was it on? I'm not experiencing any symptoms yet - I'm a bit worried about it all to be honest ![]() What worries me the most is I'm pretty nutty anyway ![]() ![]() | |||
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"How do you know if you should be taking hrt? What does it do?? Replaces the oestrogen. I had to go in and describe my symptoms but it took them like 3 visits. " There are different types and levels if you have it diagnosed correctly (I have read this recently) but NHS often only replace the oestrogen. | |||
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"I can't stand Davina - but it's an interesting subject so I might have a look - what channel was it on? I'm not experiencing any symptoms yet - I'm a bit worried about it all to be honest ![]() I would add, any bulges from the vagina, urine leakage or retention, difficulty in passing urine or faeces may be due to pelvic organ prolapse, which is very common, especially in women who have given birth. A urogynaecologist is the specialist to see ![]() | |||
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"After watching it last night we had to ask why would any health organisation pay heed to a study carried out by the Americans then base their future treatment for their female population upon it? The mind boggles ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I can't stand Davina - but it's an interesting subject so I might have a look - what channel was it on? I'm not experiencing any symptoms yet - I'm a bit worried about it all to be honest ![]() Don't worry about anything that hasn't yet happened. I'm not gloating but I didn't experience anything bad at all. No night sweats that I recall. I did tingle and go red every now n then but honestly it was mild and ' don't let them lock me up,' .... it felt nice and didn't last long. ( I went back for HRTyears after my menopause cos I thought it might help with the 'naughties' but I never told the doc that ) | |||
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"I remember I was FB'ing with a much younger man and thought the HRT would horny me up a bit .......... I laugh now .... fuck's sake." Did it horny you up? ![]() | |||
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"I remember I was FB'ing with a much younger man and thought the HRT would horny me up a bit .......... I laugh now .... fuck's sake." You need Testosterone for your libido to improve. | |||
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"I remember I was FB'ing with a much younger man and thought the HRT would horny me up a bit .......... I laugh now .... fuck's sake. Did it horny you up? ![]() Nah. I'm often horny even still but I thought it'd make me rage.... never did. | |||
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"I remember I was FB'ing with a much younger man and thought the HRT would horny me up a bit .......... I laugh now .... fuck's sake. You need Testosterone for your libido to improve. " I read/heard that only in the past year or so ....... I don't want a beard n dick tho | |||
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"After watching it last night we had to ask why would any health organisation pay heed to a study carried out by the Americans then base their future treatment for their female population upon it? The mind boggles ![]() Misogynistic indifference, it's all over society in too many areas.. | |||
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"What shocked me as a bloke is that the training for GPs is so poor, not good enough and I can't help think if this was a process men went through then it would be better addressed.. There's a petition running, saw it in the guardian to order Government by to look at the training for GPs.." Yep, exactly the same for breastfeeding issues too. Mrs kf x | |||
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"It's knowing when to start. I'm gonna be a nightmare I know I am. I've dropped down to 3 weekly cycles so don't think I'm far off " I try to go out on my bike at least 5 times a week... | |||
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"We also need employers to take this seriously and address it. Simple solutions such as a chill out room can make all the difference but how many have this available to them? Also consideration as to the mental effects - terrible anxiety and problems with concentration have just been met with veiled threats from my employers. I have a manager who is unfortunately clueless. " It's the knock on effects also. The thermostat wars got very nasty at work. | |||
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"After watching it last night we had to ask why would any health organisation pay heed to a study carried out by the Americans then base their future treatment for their female population upon it? The mind boggles ![]() This ![]() | |||
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"What shocked me as a bloke is that the training for GPs is so poor, not good enough and I can't help think if this was a process men went through then it would be better addressed.. There's a petition running, saw it in the guardian to order Government by to look at the training for GPs.. Yep, exactly the same for breastfeeding issues too. Mrs kf x" Yep! I found help through my own hard work and research, but many people don't know where to find it... | |||
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"I remember I was FB'ing with a much younger man and thought the HRT would horny me up a bit .......... I laugh now .... fuck's sake. You need Testosterone for your libido to improve. I read/heard that only in the past year or so ....... I don't want a beard n dick tho " Total myth. It's all about the dosage. | |||
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"Let's face it, the average GP is scared to get into it. We had a young female doctor at our local surgery who decided that howvthings were wasn't good enough so went on a vigil to try to highlight the issues of menopause. She was brilliant but once she put her head above the parapet she was soon cast out. In a roundabout way she saved Mrs M's life but sadly she will never know. Good on her and anyone who flysheet the flag for change. " ![]() | |||
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"Remember going to the doctors saying i was only having period for 2 days all of a sudden from 7 days.. All i got from her arnt you lucky. Its just your age i walked out furious" When at the age of 28 my GP refereed me to see a gynaecologist regarding my persistent periods, SHE after reading my notes said to me well you've 3 options..1 go and have another baby (had 2 children already) 2, put up with it until menopause starts at 50 ish and 3, as you're body is making too much testosterone (first I'd heard) go away and become a man! I was 28..I could of willfully slapped her if I wasn't so stunned at the time.. I went back to GP repeated her words and he was disgusted..I ended up being referred to a different hospital and having a coil implant..best thing ever for me.. ![]() | |||
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"Remember going to the doctors saying i was only having period for 2 days all of a sudden from 7 days.. All i got from her arnt you lucky. Its just your age i walked out furious When at the age of 28 my GP refereed me to see a gynaecologist regarding my persistent periods, SHE after reading my notes said to me well you've 3 options..1 go and have another baby (had 2 children already) 2, put up with it until menopause starts at 50 ish and 3, as you're body is making too much testosterone (first I'd heard) go away and become a man! I was 28..I could of willfully slapped her if I wasn't so stunned at the time.. I went back to GP repeated her words and he was disgusted..I ended up being referred to a different hospital and having a coil implant..best thing ever for me.. ![]() Bloody hell! That's disgraceful! I was dismissed by a female GP that I saw for unusual bleeding. Made me feel like a complete fool. | |||
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"Remember going to the doctors saying i was only having period for 2 days all of a sudden from 7 days.. All i got from her arnt you lucky. Its just your age i walked out furious When at the age of 28 my GP refereed me to see a gynaecologist regarding my persistent periods, SHE after reading my notes said to me well you've 3 options..1 go and have another baby (had 2 children already) 2, put up with it until menopause starts at 50 ish and 3, as you're body is making too much testosterone (first I'd heard) go away and become a man! I was 28..I could of willfully slapped her if I wasn't so stunned at the time.. I went back to GP repeated her words and he was disgusted..I ended up being referred to a different hospital and having a coil implant..best thing ever for me.. ![]() i hope you made a serious complaint about that. unacceptable | |||
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"Remember going to the doctors saying i was only having period for 2 days all of a sudden from 7 days.. All i got from her arnt you lucky. Its just your age i walked out furious When at the age of 28 my GP refereed me to see a gynaecologist regarding my persistent periods, SHE after reading my notes said to me well you've 3 options..1 go and have another baby (had 2 children already) 2, put up with it until menopause starts at 50 ish and 3, as you're body is making too much testosterone (first I'd heard) go away and become a man! I was 28..I could of willfully slapped her if I wasn't so stunned at the time.. I went back to GP repeated her words and he was disgusted..I ended up being referred to a different hospital and having a coil implant..best thing ever for me.. ![]() It was disrespectful and wrong on every level..I just wanted to get out of her room ASAP.. No I didn't take it further than my GP...my word against hers at the end of the day. my problem was sorted out in the next few months.. What really upset me at the time,she had literally no empathy for a women in that situation.. | |||
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"Remember going to the doctors saying i was only having period for 2 days all of a sudden from 7 days.. All i got from her arnt you lucky. Its just your age i walked out furious When at the age of 28 my GP refereed me to see a gynaecologist regarding my persistent periods, SHE after reading my notes said to me well you've 3 options..1 go and have another baby (had 2 children already) 2, put up with it until menopause starts at 50 ish and 3, as you're body is making too much testosterone (first I'd heard) go away and become a man! I was 28..I could of willfully slapped her if I wasn't so stunned at the time.. I went back to GP repeated her words and he was disgusted..I ended up being referred to a different hospital and having a coil implant..best thing ever for me.. ![]() I had a female gynae & she too was vile. T is not a violent man - he lives in his own happy little world - but even he wanted to punch her for the way she spoke to me & kept moving the goalposts. J x | |||
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"After watching it last night we had to ask why would any health organisation pay heed to a study carried out by the Americans then base their future treatment for their female population upon it? The mind boggles ![]() I believe it's how we ended up with Viagra, instead of a treatment for severe period pains, which is what it was originally researched for ![]() | |||
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"After watching it last night we had to ask why would any health organisation pay heed to a study carried out by the Americans then base their future treatment for their female population upon it? The mind boggles ![]() ![]() Wasn't viagra originally for hypertension ? | |||
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"Anyone watching? So informative. She's great. Anyone taking hrt? She's just been saying that only 1 in 10 women take it, which I was very surprised about." This one of the nine women would never take it. Just because it's there, doesn't make it useful. What is severely lacking is other therapies and robust research but hey, there's no money to be made out of womens health ![]() | |||
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"Anyone watching? So informative. She's great. Anyone taking hrt? She's just been saying that only 1 in 10 women take it, which I was very surprised about. This one of the nine women would never take it. Just because it's there, doesn't make it useful. What is severely lacking is other therapies and robust research but hey, there's no money to be made out of womens health ![]() Is that really the reason though? I mean 50% of the population? And almost every one of them is going to "catch" menopause... That's a pretty big and guaranteed market place. Whatever the reasons are ive been genuinely shocked at how little research and understanding there is for half of the populations health. | |||
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"Nobody has yet mentioned one of the biggest medical benefits of HRT, the reason why nearly all women who are able to take it, should do: to reduce the danger of brittle bones. Post menopause there is increased loss of calcium from bones, thus women suffer from brittle bones far more than men in later age. Yes HRT has a tiny cancer risk, but the benefits in reduced risk of broken hips, spinal shrinkage etc are enormous. Again this is a thing that if it affected men, would be shouted from the rooftops. As it is, so many male doctors actively advise women against it for what I can only assume are misogynistic reasons. " I found the piece about Alzheimers interesting also. I was unaware of that connection. | |||
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"Nobody has yet mentioned one of the biggest medical benefits of HRT, the reason why nearly all women who are able to take it, should do: to reduce the danger of brittle bones. Post menopause there is increased loss of calcium from bones, thus women suffer from brittle bones far more than men in later age. Yes HRT has a tiny cancer risk, but the benefits in reduced risk of broken hips, spinal shrinkage etc are enormous. Again this is a thing that if it affected men, would be shouted from the rooftops. As it is, so many male doctors actively advise women against it for what I can only assume are misogynistic reasons." That's also the reason i pushed to be given HRT. | |||
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"Nobody has yet mentioned one of the biggest medical benefits of HRT, the reason why nearly all women who are able to take it, should do: to reduce the danger of brittle bones. Post menopause there is increased loss of calcium from bones, thus women suffer from brittle bones far more than men in later age. Yes HRT has a tiny cancer risk, but the benefits in reduced risk of broken hips, spinal shrinkage etc are enormous. Again this is a thing that if it affected men, would be shouted from the rooftops. As it is, so many male doctors actively advise women against it for what I can only assume are misogynistic reasons." I never realised there were all those other benefits associated with hrt until I saw this programme. I think I'd take it if I needed to and was offered it. | |||
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"New programme with Davina on tonight. Channel 4, 9pm. ![]() Got it recorded so I can watch in peace ![]() | |||
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"New programme with Davina on tonight. Channel 4, 9pm. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"After watching it last night we had to ask why would any health organisation pay heed to a study carried out by the Americans then base their future treatment for their female population upon it? The mind boggles ![]() ![]() Because we men don't go through it? Perhaps a very simplistic view but like many other issues that are detrimental to women and that should shame us as a society our governance, institutions etc are patriarchal.. | |||
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"For those of you who don’t know …. If you think you are peri menopausal you can have a blood test to check. Ask if your GP surgery has a GP that specialises in or is menopause aware - it’s helps and it’s easier! The shortage of HRT products is purely down to supply and demand…. Manufacturers can’t just up their production overnight or ship stock in as quickly as they like. Please don’t get cross with surgery or pharmacy staff - it’s not their fault when they can’t obtain supplies to meet demand " I got cross at my pharmacy staff. They thought it was highly amusing that it was in short supply. Laughing loudly and chatting in front of other customers about my medication! | |||
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