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"National celebrations, national song... To the grandson, its just not right!!! "maybe she has another bond escort, she wasnt there when they sang it at the opening ceremony either | |||
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"she was probably over with the germans catching up on old times.." Always someone about to make a cheap shot ...  | |||
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"National celebrations, national song... To the grandson, its just not right!!!
maybe she has another bond escort, she wasnt there when they sang it at the opening ceremony either"...I think she was after that mega 'Bond' entrance.
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"She hasn't been seen since she jumped out of that helicopter with Bond "Lizzy is swinging with Bond and Philip's with Moneypenny at Buck Hse this evening  | |||
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"I think the Olympics exemplifies youth, and having young Prince Harry at the closing ceremony shadowed the spirit and participation of the youth of the world in the games." thats a good point. i hear a lot of gender testing will be going on at the games in brazil | |||
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"National celebrations, national song... To the grandson, its just not right!!! "bloody hell would you send your gran out to a do at aged 84 til gone midnight having to sit out in the cold, i think she has done more than enough, Harry represents the Youth......go Harry!!! Jesus wept theres no pleasing some!!! | |||
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"I think the Olympics exemplifies youth, and having young Prince Harry at the closing ceremony shadowed the spirit and participation of the youth of the world in the games."  | |||
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"National celebrations, national song... To the grandson, its just not right!!! bloody hell would you send your gran out to a do at aged 84 til gone midnight having to sit out in the cold, i think she has done more than enough, Harry represents the Youth......go Harry!!! Jesus wept theres no pleasing some!!! "exactly! Bit of respect wouldn't go amiss!   | |||
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"National celebrations, national song... To the grandson, its just not right!!!
maybe she has another bond escort, she wasnt there when they sang it at the opening ceremony either
...I think she was after that mega 'Bond' entrance.
And they wouldn't have played the National Anthem until she arrived .. "Fairly sure they did at the beginning cos they sang both versus. I could be wrong though wouldnt be the first time lol | |||
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"National celebrations, national song... To the grandson, its just not right!!! bloody hell would you send your gran out to a do at aged 84 til gone midnight having to sit out in the cold, i think she has done more than enough, Harry represents the Youth......go Harry!!! Jesus wept theres no pleasing some!!! exactly! Bit of respect wouldn't go amiss! "Confused.....Bit of respect for who exactly? | |||
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"National celebrations, national song... To the grandson, its just not right!!! bloody hell would you send your gran out to a do at aged 84 til gone midnight having to sit out in the cold, i think she has done more than enough, Harry represents the Youth......go Harry!!! Jesus wept theres no pleasing some!!! "well said | |||
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"She hasn't been seen since she jumped out of that helicopter with Bond "Perhaps 007 is givin her a very secret service... | |||
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As the head of our country, the face of our nation, even the face on our money, it is god save our Queen..... Not any member of the royal family the happens to enjoy the events. | |||
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As the head of our country, the face of our nation, even the face on our money, it is god save our Queen..... Not any member of the royal family the happens to enjoy the events. "God save the Queen is sung all the time without the Queen being present, it's not a proviso of singing it that she is there to listen to it. It was stated that Harry was the official representative of the Queen. It's not as if they never told her that the event was being held and Harry just went along for the jolly.... | |||
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"I think both William and Harry have been stars of late, they come across really well." indeedy they are. A fine showing for a future Britain | |||
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"oh my god give her majesty a break!!! god bless her if she was up to it and had no other commitments or felt she aught to be she would have been i personally didnt feel let down cos she wasnt there!!" It is my opinion, and am entitled to it. Such a huge event, such pride for Britain and our Queen should of been there, or at the least, a pre recorded message of her thoughts and pride over the results!  | |||
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"She hasn't been seen since she jumped out of that helicopter with Bond
Lizzy is swinging with Bond and Philip's with Moneypenny at Buck Hse this evening "She told us she couldn't accommodate! | |||
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"Bet harry's dads as proud as punch
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"Bet harry's dads as proud as punch
does he still run that bar in Spain? "As if I waas hinting at that .....lol | |||
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"Does anyone else see it as handing a torch to the younger generation, or is it just me?" Just you. | |||
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"Does anyone else see it as handing a torch to the younger generation, or is it just me?" Its obvious to some | |||
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"Does anyone else see it as handing a torch to the younger generation, or is it just me?" I saw it that way as well......and it was great to witness it. | |||
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"_umour is one of royals is really poorly and they didn't want to spoil the euphoria???????" To be honest I thought this, as the speeches were addressed to 'Your Majesty, and your Royal Highnesses....' etc. I think she was supposed to be there and had to pull out last min, after they could change their speeches. | |||
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"_umour is one of royals is really poorly and they didn't want to spoil the euphoria??????? To be honest I thought this, as the speeches were addressed to 'Your Majesty, and your Royal Highnesses....' etc. I think she was supposed to be there and had to pull out last min, after they could change their speeches." Princess Anne was there so your highness is still apt ... and the ginger one , think his dad runs a bar in spain....? | |||
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"_umour is one of royals is really poorly and they didn't want to spoil the euphoria??????? To be honest I thought this, as the speeches were addressed to 'Your Majesty, and your Royal Highnesses....' etc. I think she was supposed to be there and had to pull out last min, after they could change their speeches. Princess Anne was there so your highness is still apt ... and the ginger one , think his dad runs a bar in spain....?" Yeah, but there was no 'majesties' there, so it was odd to start the speeches with it. | |||
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"I will get bashed but who cares, not me. I actually think the comments about what they were doing instead disturbing. They are 86 and 92 years of age and we often comment that respect is not always shown to our elderly but it is okay to joke about them being out looking for meets or on drugs. Just because they are who they are, it is okay to disrespect them. " im with you _iew bearing in mind all the queen has had to attend this year i think regardless of how you see the royals she has earnt our respect and love handing on the baton is inevitable leave her be  | |||
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"_umour is one of royals is really poorly and they didn't want to spoil the euphoria??????? To be honest I thought this, as the speeches were addressed to 'Your Majesty, and your Royal Highnesses....' etc. I think she was supposed to be there and had to pull out last min, after they could change their speeches. Princess Anne was there so your highness is still apt ... and the ginger one , think his dad runs a bar in spain....? Yeah, but there was no 'majesties' there, so it was odd to start the speeches with it." There was from other countries | |||
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"_umour is one of royals is really poorly and they didn't want to spoil the euphoria??????? To be honest I thought this, as the speeches were addressed to 'Your Majesty, and your Royal Highnesses....' etc. I think she was supposed to be there and had to pull out last min, after they could change their speeches. Princess Anne was there so your highness is still apt ... and the ginger one , think his dad runs a bar in spain....? Yeah, but there was no 'majesties' there, so it was odd to start the speeches with it.There was from other countries "Good point! | |||
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" wonder how much they want for that flame thingy. look good in the garden for the roses that" Make a good BBQ too! | |||
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"some here are very easily amused piss take the queen ffs a swingers site, swingers adult ? some realy need to grow up mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm" Plenty of other topics, just let it go over your heads, dont dwell on the 1s you dont like. | |||
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"some here are very easily amused piss take the queen ffs a swingers site, swingers adult ? some realy need to grow up mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm" Well, if this is not going at someone's character - what is. It was pointed out to me a month ago, when I joined into a post, the the lounge is indeed - for GENERAL DISCUSSION. I will not go on any further but, oh I have more "opinion" to all of this!! | |||
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"lol. i think its good some other royal family member gets to attend or appear in her place. she is getting on and will reduce her public appearances. harry and william look the part and id prefer to see them at events anyway. but phil's health hasnt been good so maybe she is also considering him." | |||
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"When the Queen deputises one of the family to be at an event for her, she is still addressed as though she is there in person. As has been pointed out, other 'majesties' were also present. Before you say that if she can't be at everything she should step down, just think about the year she has had. She has been on a 7 month royal progress. She is in her 80s and Philip is in his 90s. They are still working this summer as Philip has shown by visiting the Isle of Wight today. It was a late night, loud and tiring affair. He has been ill. We never know if she is ill. She has family that are willing to help out. Wouldn't yours do the same for you?" Haha, I did at some previous point state that a pre recorded message should of, "in my opinion" been sent in - along with the dapper young Harry. It is a duty she has, maybe seeing as this was planned for umm, 4years * other duties* should of been prioritiesd. This was such a monuments occasion, she is the head of our nation - not just a 9-5 that I could send a fellow family member in to cover the hours on!! | |||
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"The Queen doesn't shirl her duties, in fact at her age she doesn't seem to have slowed down and attends many duties a week so it seems. The woman might have wanted to watch it with her feet up instead of having to need ear plugs. "As much as I do get your point, for your nan, or indeed my own - this was not a small little affair. Great Britain were showing off just how great they were, without their own mama holding their hand, or there to say how proud she is. It is cool that my opinion clearly is not seen, what it is all about | |||
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"I think she may have regretted the parachute jump video and distanced herself a little. I thought it was funny at the time but on reflection.... She has always been about dignity.... at all costs, I think she may have a lost a little. " You see I thought that at the time, one step too far, I like the fact they don't join in with anything like that. | |||
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"I think she may have regretted the parachute jump video and distanced herself a little. I thought it was funny at the time but on reflection.... She has always been about dignity.... at all costs, I think she may have a lost a little. " I can see why you might say that but no l don't think so. It was done very well and was a perfect, if surprise, part of a one off occasion. People who have met the Queen say she has a great sense of humour and this was a public insight. Now if she HAD jumped out of the'copter knickers a kimbo then yes. . . | |||
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"Did Harry have to make a speech on her behalf? No. Why? Because it is protocol that the Head if State opens the games (as she did brilliantly ) but the Olympic head closes it and the Mayors of the host and next host cities pass on the Olympic flag. I think the Royal Hoeusehold possibly knows more about where and when the Queen needs to be anywhere than the OP?" Did I say I know of a rule book?? Did I start with a question, then follow throughout the post with "my opinion"?? I think I did, so before you start with under hand remarks, kindly remember that I was not here to offend anyone * or be offended!!! | |||
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"oh my god give her majesty a break!!! god bless her if she was up to it and had no other commitments or felt she aught to be she would have been i personally didnt feel let down cos she wasnt there!! It is my opinion, and am entitled to it. Such a huge event, such pride for Britain and our Queen should of been there, or at the least, a pre recorded message of her thoughts and pride over the results! "The Queen opens parliament each year but she isn't required to be there to close it. She opened the Games but it wasn't deemed vital that she be there personally to close it. Harry represented his grandmother & family as a good ambassador for youth in this country and he performed his duties well. Remember, he will one day be supporting his brother when he becomes King and giving Harry such a central role in important events will assist him to serve his brother better when the time comes. William's training as a future monarch is in the hands of his father, grandmother and the Royal Household, Harry is a part of that. | |||
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"Did l set out to offend you? No. Just bringing fact into the discussion. But l found your having a couple of pops at someone l have the highest respect for offensive. She has served this country faultlessly for 60 years and some of the comments by you and others are quite uncalled for. Excuse me???? Have I actually said a bad word against our queen???? Or simply that as part of this country, and entitled to my opinion * she should have somehow portrayd her pride over her nations achievements!! And I stand by my thoughts!! " | |||
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"Did l set out to offend you? No. Just bringing fact into the discussion. But l found your having a couple of pops at someone l have the highest respect for offensive. She has served this country faultlessly for 60 years and some of the comments by you and others are quite uncalled for. Excuse me???? Have I actually said a bad word against our queen???? Or simply that as part of this country, and entitled to my opinion * she should have somehow portrayd her pride over her nations achievements!! And I stand by my thoughts!! " The Queen uses her traditional Christmas Day message to the nation to highlight events of the year that she feels worthy of note. You can be assured that she will mention the Olympics and her personal pride TeamGB's achievements. She didn't need to tell the world how good our athletes are as they already know having just witnessed them in action. Her message to them is a British affair and she'll applaud them at the right time and the right place. | |||
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"Did l set out to offend you? No. Just bringing fact into the discussion. But l found your having a couple of pops at someone l have the highest respect for offensive. She has served this country faultlessly for 60 years and some of the comments by you and others are quite uncalled for. Excuse me???? Have I actually said a bad word against our queen???? Or simply that as part of this country, and entitled to my opinion * she should have somehow portrayd her pride over her nations achievements!! And I stand by my thoughts!! The Queen uses her traditional Christmas Day message to the nation to highlight events of the year that she feels worthy of note. You can be assured that she will mention the Olympics and her personal pride TeamGB's achievements. She didn't need to tell the world how good our athletes are as they already know having just witnessed them in action. Her message to them is a British affair and she'll applaud them at the right time and the right place." YEY .. Leave the old girl alone she must be exhausted. To be honest so much going on im sure would have been too much.. the noise the fuss.. leave her be the young family took over shhe did the opening..! | |||
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"Did l set out to offend you? No. Just bringing fact into the discussion. But l found your having a couple of pops at someone l have the highest respect for offensive. She has served this country faultlessly for 60 years and some of the comments by you and others are quite uncalled for. Excuse me???? Have I actually said a bad word against our queen???? Or simply that as part of this country, and entitled to my opinion * she should have somehow portrayd her pride over her nations achievements!! And I stand by my thoughts!! The Queen uses her traditional Christmas Day message to the nation to highlight events of the year that she feels worthy of note. You can be assured that she will mention the Olympics and her personal pride TeamGB's achievements. She didn't need to tell the world how good our athletes are as they already know having just witnessed them in action. Her message to them is a British affair and she'll applaud them at the right time and the right place." You forgot the fact French was spoken before English in the start and finish celebrations, | |||
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"You forgot the fact French was spoken before English in the start and finish celebrations, " I believe French is always spoken first, then English, then local language at Olympics. Guess its because a Frenchman started the modern Olympics - so probably tradition. I may be wrong, so happy to be corrected ... | |||
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"You forgot the fact French was spoken before English in the start and finish celebrations, I believe French is always spoken first, then English, then local language at Olympics. Guess its because a Frenchman started the modern Olympics - so probably tradition. I may be wrong, so happy to be corrected ... " I seem to remember different but I could be wrong, always taught it is good manners to speak local language first. Where ever I have gone in world always learnt hello, please and thank you in local language and always served me well. | |||
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"You forgot the fact French was spoken before English in the start and finish celebrations, I believe French is always spoken first, then English, then local language at Olympics. Guess its because a Frenchman started the modern Olympics - so probably tradition. I may be wrong, so happy to be corrected ... " That's what Wikipedia says but some people have told me it's wrong. I suspect it's custom for them though so doesn't bother me. | |||
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"You forgot the fact French was spoken before English in the start and finish celebrations, I believe French is always spoken first, then English, then local language at Olympics. Guess its because a Frenchman started the modern Olympics - so probably tradition. I may be wrong, so happy to be corrected ... That's what Wikipedia says but some people have told me it's wrong. I suspect it's custom for them though so doesn't bother me." I know it shouldn't bother me but it does and I do not why but it does | |||
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"You forgot the fact French was spoken before English in the start and finish celebrations, I believe French is always spoken first, then English, then local language at Olympics. Guess its because a Frenchman started the modern Olympics - so probably tradition. I may be wrong, so happy to be corrected ... That's what Wikipedia says but some people have told me it's wrong. I suspect it's custom for them though so doesn't bother me. I know it shouldn't bother me but it does and I do not why but it does" The Olympics has two official languages and then also uses the local language. Eurovision has two official languages. In both cases it is usually French first then English. | |||
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"hump" Ah! I see what you are doing now... randomly inserting *umps into threads. | |||
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"I will get bashed but who cares, not me. I actually think the comments about what they were doing instead disturbing. They are 86 and 92 years of age and we often comment that respect is not always shown to our elderly but it is okay to joke about them being out looking for meets or on drugs. Just because they are who they are, it is okay to disrespect them. " Some horrible folk about and your so right with what you put here hun | |||
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"hump Ah! I see what you are doing now... randomly inserting *umps into threads." Quintessentially that is the essence of what we are trying our utmost to eventually become achievable almost immediately M'lady | |||
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"I think she may have regretted the parachute jump video and distanced herself a little. I thought it was funny at the time but on reflection.... She has always been about dignity.... at all costs, I think she may have a lost a little. " I agree View. Daniel Craig just walking through the palace with the corgis snapping at his heels and then going into the drawing room and the Queen turning to speak to him would have been enough. The parachute thing was a little naff. Oh and I also agree that the comments about the #ueen swinging and jibes about parentage a little daft, its hardly side splitting funny is it. A recorded message would have been a nice touch to those athletes who competed but I would imagine there was good reason it wasn't and a good reason why the #ueen didn't attend in person. I doubt she made the decision herself and thought 'oh I can't be arsed tonight'. | |||
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"go elect a democracticly elected head of state and save your energy from this pointless debate for a worthy cause.....many many deseving britons deserve a chance representing the people as head of state...long live the people" But we don't live in a republic, thank god. I could think of nothing more insidious than a Sarcozy-esque type character at the helm of this great nation and unable to get rid of the prat for 5 years. Our graceful monarch has not put a foot wrong in 60 years as Queen. Not a single faux pas, not one little 'bloody' has escaped her lips, nothing to make the country ashamed of her. She has adapted her role (and her family, how many can say that) when duty or current public mood has required it of her and never moaned about it. Her heart is with the Kingdom as it always has and always will be. So what that she was born to a role that some say she doesn't deserve to have just because of the circumstances of her birth, she still possessed the credentials to carry out her role with far more aplomb than our so called 'leaders', either political or business. The United Kingdom will miss her when she goes, and the world will have lost one of it's most gracious human beings. Long live the Queen. | |||
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"go elect a democracticly elected head of state and save your energy from this pointless debate for a worthy cause.....many many deseving britons deserve a chance representing the people as head of state...long live the people But we don't live in a republic, thank god. I could think of nothing more insidious than a Sarcozy-esque type character at the helm of this great nation and unable to get rid of the prat for 5 years. Our graceful monarch has not put a foot wrong in 60 years as Queen. Not a single faux pas, not one little 'bloody' has escaped her lips, nothing to make the country ashamed of her. She has adapted her role (and her family, how many can say that) when duty or current public mood has required it of her and never moaned about it. Her heart is with the Kingdom as it always has and always will be. So what that she was born to a role that some say she doesn't deserve to have just because of the circumstances of her birth, she still possessed the credentials to carry out her role with far more aplomb than our so called 'leaders', either political or business. The United Kingdom will miss her when she goes, and the world will have lost one of it's most gracious human beings. Long live the Queen." When i was younger i was a anti monarchist,but over the years i have totally changed. I found it fascinating how she literally given up her life for the country, you cant say it was for the "privileged" life style she leads as tbh if you gave me the choice of her life or mine ,I would take mine every time. Add to that she is the most experienced politician on the planet having spent time with the greatest politicians and artists who ever lived and she holds the commonwealth of nations (the biggest geo political group ever) together single handed is amazing . We rarely agree on stuff wishy but on ,this occasion i am going to as she is going to be a hard act to follow that is for sure . | |||
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"So she has to be everywhere the national anthem in sung....... Give her a break" Out of it all.... This was the only point you found?? Lol!! | |||
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" As far as thinking something from her towards these wonderful athletes and their achievements, seeing as the expected gold medals were 6. Anywho's, over n out! "only 6 gold medals expected?,way way short that figure,which sport?. they expected more than 6 in velodrome alone!. | |||
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"I was done commenting, but reading new responses, I have a little more to add. The fact the Queen does her summary of the year gone by on Christmas day was an over sight on my part. As far as thinking something from her towards these wonderful athletes and their achievements, seeing as the expected gold medals were 6. Anywho's, over n out! "To be honest its a good thread as i was surprised it was not her ,but then i thought you know what, given her age and the content, it was more appropriate for a younger member to go. Also if they do not step into these formal roles they will never get the experience they will need in the future,so i concluded its been as big year the 60th etc ,i hope she is at home putting her feet up and watching it on the tele. | |||
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"I was done commenting, but reading new responses, I have a little more to add. The fact the Queen does her summary of the year gone by on Christmas day was an over sight on my part. As far as thinking something from her towards these wonderful athletes and their achievements, seeing as the expected gold medals were 6. Anywho's, over n out! "There are some _umours the Duke of E isn't well at the moment and they are keeping it quiet. Maybe she wanted to spend time with him. | |||
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"go elect a democracticly elected head of state and save your energy from this pointless debate for a worthy cause.....many many deseving britons deserve a chance representing the people as head of state...long live the people But we don't live in a republic, thank god. I could think of nothing more insidious than a Sarcozy-esque type character at the helm of this great nation and unable to get rid of the prat for 5 years. Our graceful monarch has not put a foot wrong in 60 years as Queen. Not a single faux pas, not one little 'bloody' has escaped her lips, nothing to make the country ashamed of her. She has adapted her role (and her family, how many can say that) when duty or current public mood has required it of her and never moaned about it. Her heart is with the Kingdom as it always has and always will be. So what that she was born to a role that some say she doesn't deserve to have just because of the circumstances of her birth, she still possessed the credentials to carry out her role with far more aplomb than our so called 'leaders', either political or business. The United Kingdom will miss her when she goes, and the world will have lost one of it's most gracious human beings. Long live the Queen. When i was younger i was a anti monarchist,but over the years i have totally changed. I found it fascinating how she literally given up her life for the country, you cant say it was for the "privileged" life style she leads as tbh if you gave me the choice of her life or mine ,I would take mine every time. Add to that she is the most experienced politician on the planet having spent time with the greatest politicians and artists who ever lived and she holds the commonwealth of nations (the biggest geo political group ever) together single handed is amazing . We rarely agree on stuff wishy but on ,this occasion i am going to as she is going to be a hard act to follow that is for sure . "'Going to be a hard act to follow'...so do you think Charles has the gravitas, integrity, political sensitivity, and moral compass for the role of Monarch ?..unlike Sarkozy we can't vote him out. | |||
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"go elect a democracticly elected head of state and save your energy from this pointless debate for a worthy cause.....many many deseving britons deserve a chance representing the people as head of state...long live the people But we don't live in a republic, thank god. I could think of nothing more insidious than a Sarcozy-esque type character at the helm of this great nation and unable to get rid of the prat for 5 years. Our graceful monarch has not put a foot wrong in 60 years as Queen. Not a single faux pas, not one little 'bloody' has escaped her lips, nothing to make the country ashamed of her. She has adapted her role (and her family, how many can say that) when duty or current public mood has required it of her and never moaned about it. Her heart is with the Kingdom as it always has and always will be. So what that she was born to a role that some say she doesn't deserve to have just because of the circumstances of her birth, she still possessed the credentials to carry out her role with far more aplomb than our so called 'leaders', either political or business. The United Kingdom will miss her when she goes, and the world will have lost one of it's most gracious human beings. Long live the Queen. When i was younger i was a anti monarchist,but over the years i have totally changed. I found it fascinating how she literally given up her life for the country, you cant say it was for the "privileged" life style she leads as tbh if you gave me the choice of her life or mine ,I would take mine every time. Add to that she is the most experienced politician on the planet having spent time with the greatest politicians and artists who ever lived and she holds the commonwealth of nations (the biggest geo political group ever) together single handed is amazing . We rarely agree on stuff wishy but on ,this occasion i am going to as she is going to be a hard act to follow that is for sure . "100% agree with these two posts.. We are fortunate to have what Republics in general, wish they had! | |||
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"go elect a democracticly elected head of state and save your energy from this pointless debate for a worthy cause.....many many deseving britons deserve a chance representing the people as head of state...long live the people" We already elect a parliament. Look how that's turned out! | |||
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"go elect a democracticly elected head of state and save your energy from this pointless debate for a worthy cause.....many many deseving britons deserve a chance representing the people as head of state...long live the people But we don't live in a republic, thank god. I could think of nothing more insidious than a Sarcozy-esque type character at the helm of this great nation and unable to get rid of the prat for 5 years. Our graceful monarch has not put a foot wrong in 60 years as Queen. Not a single faux pas, not one little 'bloody' has escaped her lips, nothing to make the country ashamed of her. She has adapted her role (and her family, how many can say that) when duty or current public mood has required it of her and never moaned about it. Her heart is with the Kingdom as it always has and always will be. So what that she was born to a role that some say she doesn't deserve to have just because of the circumstances of her birth, she still possessed the credentials to carry out her role with far more aplomb than our so called 'leaders', either political or business. The United Kingdom will miss her when she goes, and the world will have lost one of it's most gracious human beings. Long live the Queen. When i was younger i was a anti monarchist,but over the years i have totally changed. I found it fascinating how she literally given up her life for the country, you cant say it was for the "privileged" life style she leads as tbh if you gave me the choice of her life or mine ,I would take mine every time. Add to that she is the most experienced politician on the planet having spent time with the greatest politicians and artists who ever lived and she holds the commonwealth of nations (the biggest geo political group ever) together single handed is amazing . We rarely agree on stuff wishy but on ,this occasion i am going to as she is going to be a hard act to follow that is for sure .
'Going to be a hard act to follow'...so do you think Charles has the gravitas, integrity, political sensitivity, and moral compass for the role of Monarch ?..unlike Sarkozy we can't vote him out."well TBH,i don't know ,who can know ? But for a monarch to reign it has to be with the consent of the people.I cant condemn him until he takes the crown and wont say he is not the man or woman for the job based on a lack of televisual appeal,sure he has made mistakes ,but who amongst us hasn't. He has been prepared for the Job all of his life ,unlike his mother ,which makes her achievements all the more remarkable,I think the Gravitas of being king and the need to follow in his mothers footsteps will be the final polish he requires tbh. But no one can ultimately tell at this point can they, the move to a republic would be a major move for this country as once you dismantle the monarchy it would be gone for ever. | |||
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"If I had my choice....we would skip a generation and give our nation a fresh outlook by having young William as our monarch." But is that fair to him? The Queen had no choice - after she saw what happened with her Uncle's abdication she would never do that. Charles has waited his whole life to fulfil one role. His son knows this. | |||
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"go elect a democracticly elected head of state and save your energy from this pointless debate for a worthy cause.....many many deseving britons deserve a chance representing the people as head of state...long live the people But we don't live in a republic, thank god. I could think of nothing more insidious than a Sarcozy-esque type character at the helm of this great nation and unable to get rid of the prat for 5 years. Our graceful monarch has not put a foot wrong in 60 years as Queen. Not a single faux pas, not one little 'bloody' has escaped her lips, nothing to make the country ashamed of her. She has adapted her role (and her family, how many can say that) when duty or current public mood has required it of her and never moaned about it. Her heart is with the Kingdom as it always has and always will be. So what that she was born to a role that some say she doesn't deserve to have just because of the circumstances of her birth, she still possessed the credentials to carry out her role with far more aplomb than our so called 'leaders', either political or business. The United Kingdom will miss her when she goes, and the world will have lost one of it's most gracious human beings. Long live the Queen. When i was younger i was a anti monarchist,but over the years i have totally changed. I found it fascinating how she literally given up her life for the country, you cant say it was for the "privileged" life style she leads as tbh if you gave me the choice of her life or mine ,I would take mine every time. Add to that she is the most experienced politician on the planet having spent time with the greatest politicians and artists who ever lived and she holds the commonwealth of nations (the biggest geo political group ever) together single handed is amazing . We rarely agree on stuff wishy but on ,this occasion i am going to as she is going to be a hard act to follow that is for sure .
'Going to be a hard act to follow'...so do you think Charles has the gravitas, integrity, political sensitivity, and moral compass for the role of Monarch ?..unlike Sarkozy we can't vote him out.
well TBH,i don't know ,who can know ?
But for a monarch to reign it has to be with the consent of the people.I cant condemn him until he takes the crown and wont say he is not the man or woman for the job based on a lack of televisual appeal,sure he has made mistakes ,but who amongst us hasn't.
He has been prepared for the Job all of his life ,unlike his mother ,which makes her achievements all the more remarkable,I think the Gravitas of being king and the need to follow in his mothers footsteps will be the final polish he requires tbh.
But no one can ultimately tell at this point can they, the move to a republic would be a major move for this country as once you dismantle the monarchy it would be gone for ever. "Where do we tick the box to give him right to reign ? | |||
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" 'Going to be a hard act to follow'...so do you think Charles has the gravitas, integrity, political sensitivity, and moral compass for the role of Monarch ?..unlike Sarkozy we can't vote him out. Yes I do, he's been in training for it since the day he was born and has had fantastic role models in both his parents, whilst I'm in no hurry for this amazing Elizabethan age to end, the next King of England will be Charles III and he and Queen Camilla will have my full support" He's actually going to take the name 'King george VII' as they consider King Charles unlucky. Charles I lost his head literally and during Charles II reign was the plague and the Great Fire of London, amongst other crappy things. As for skipping a generation, you can't have a hereditary monarchy then ask one to miss his turn. I suspect he won't be around for long though, by the time he gets to the throne. | |||
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" 'Going to be a hard act to follow'...so do you think Charles has the gravitas, integrity, political sensitivity, and moral compass for the role of Monarch ?..unlike Sarkozy we can't vote him out. Yes I do, he's been in training for it since the day he was born and has had fantastic role models in both his parents, whilst I'm in no hurry for this amazing Elizabethan age to end, the next King of England will be Charles III and he and Queen Camilla will have my full support He's actually going to take the name 'King george VII' as they consider King Charles unlucky. Charles I lost his head literally and during Charles II reign was the plague and the Great Fire of London, amongst other crappy things. As for skipping a generation, you can't have a hereditary monarchy then ask one to miss his turn. I suspect he won't be around for long though, by the time he gets to the throne." Why didn't they think of that when they named him Charles in the first place | |||
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" 'Going to be a hard act to follow'...so do you think Charles has the gravitas, integrity, political sensitivity, and moral compass for the role of Monarch ?..unlike Sarkozy we can't vote him out. Yes I do, he's been in training for it since the day he was born and has had fantastic role models in both his parents, whilst I'm in no hurry for this amazing Elizabethan age to end, the next King of England will be Charles III and he and Queen Camilla will have my full support He's actually going to take the name 'King george VII' as they consider King Charles unlucky. Charles I lost his head literally and during Charles II reign was the plague and the Great Fire of London, amongst other crappy things. As for skipping a generation, you can't have a hereditary monarchy then ask one to miss his turn. I suspect he won't be around for long though, by the time he gets to the throne. Why didn't they think of that when they named him Charles in the first place " If they'd named him Edward he might have decided to take the title Charles III and to make sure he didn't they named him Charles. See. The Popes do the same thing y'know. | |||
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" 'Going to be a hard act to follow'...so do you think Charles has the gravitas, integrity, political sensitivity, and moral compass for the role of Monarch ?..unlike Sarkozy we can't vote him out. Yes I do, he's been in training for it since the day he was born and has had fantastic role models in both his parents, whilst I'm in no hurry for this amazing Elizabethan age to end, the next King of England will be Charles III and he and Queen Camilla will have my full support He's actually going to take the name 'King george VII' as they consider King Charles unlucky. Charles I lost his head literally and during Charles II reign was the plague and the Great Fire of London, amongst other crappy things. As for skipping a generation, you can't have a hereditary monarchy then ask one to miss his turn. I suspect he won't be around for long though, by the time he gets to the throne. Why didn't they think of that when they named him Charles in the first place If they'd named him Edward he might have decided to take the title Charles III and to make sure he didn't they named him Charles. See. The Popes do the same thing y'know. "But when I change my name .....they call it fraud | |||
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" 'Going to be a hard act to follow'...so do you think Charles has the gravitas, integrity, political sensitivity, and moral compass for the role of Monarch ?..unlike Sarkozy we can't vote him out. Yes I do, he's been in training for it since the day he was born and has had fantastic role models in both his parents, whilst I'm in no hurry for this amazing Elizabethan age to end, the next King of England will be Charles III and he and Queen Camilla will have my full support He's actually going to take the name 'King george VII' as they consider King Charles unlucky. Charles I lost his head literally and during Charles II reign was the plague and the Great Fire of London, amongst other crappy things. As for skipping a generation, you can't have a hereditary monarchy then ask one to miss his turn. I suspect he won't be around for long though, by the time he gets to the throne. Why didn't they think of that when they named him Charles in the first place " I think it's something he decided himself, otherwise they probably would have called him something else. | |||
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".....cut Where do we tick the box to give him right to reign ?" Yep i know what your saying ,I have considered the democracy issue as well  ,in the past the Charles and Diana debacle would have been solved with a fight between the houses of windsor and spencer on a battle field with the common man being the butcher bill for whoever won.I cant imagine how we will ever move on to anything other than a House of Windsor -except via a republican movement gaining ground.
But would the little kids come out to wave a flag at President Cameron or President Brown in a black limo,I cant see it personally.
Factor in the fascination globally with the royal family and you have a great tourist pull.I just think on balance we are best leaving it alone tbh,
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"Where do we tick the box to give him right to reign ?" Every time you vote you are voting for a system that supports a constitutional monarchy. Whether you like that or not that's what you are voting for (partly). | |||
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".....cut Where do we tick the box to give him right to reign ? Yep i know what your saying ,I have considered the democracy issue as well ,in the past the Charles and Diana debacle would have been solved with a fight between the houses of windsor and spencer on a battle field with the common man being the butcher bill for whoever won.I cant imagine how we will ever move on to anything other than a House of Windsor -except via a republican movement gaining ground.
But would the little kids come out to wave a flag at President Cameron or President Brown in a black limo,I cant see it personally.
Factor in the fascination globally with the royal family and you have a great tourist pull.I just think on balance we are best leaving it alone tbh,
A study a few years ago calculated it costs far more for a presidency that it does a royal family. "Not sure cost is paramount, and not sure that the rational for retaining a constitutional Monarch is as prosaic as 'they have a great tourist pull' I'm not advocating we should be abolishing the Monarchy, but in, what we all must hope, is a society based on meritocracy the role of a hereditary head of state is a valid subject for discussion. | |||
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"There is a useful mnemonic rhyme for memorising the Kings & Queens of England/Britain: ~ Willie, Willie, Harry, Steve, Harry, Dick, John, Harry Three, One-To-Three Neds, Richard Two, Harrys Four-Five-Six... then who? ~ Edwards Four-Five, Dick the Bad, Harrys (twain), Ned Six (the lad), Mary, Bessie, James you ken, Then Charlie, Charlie, James again... ~ Will & Mary, Anne of Gloria, Georges ( 4! ), Will Four, Victoria, Edward Seven next, and then Came George the Fifth in 1910... ~ Ned the Eighth soon abdicated, So George Six was coronated, Then Number Two Elizabeth... And that's all, folks (until her death...)!! And if the present line of succession holds, a substitute last-line will doubtless eventually become: Charles Three (and now I'm out of breath...!) ~ Translated into names, the order of succession is: WILLIAM I, WILLIAM II, HENRY I, STEPHEN, HENRY II, RICHARD I, JOHN, HENRY III, EDWARD I, EDWARD II, EDWARD III, RICHARD II, HENRY IV, HENRY V, HENRY VI, ~ EDWARD IV, EDWARD V, RICHARD III, HENRY VII, HENRY VIII, EDWARD VI, MARY I, ELIZABETH, JAMES I (& VI of Scotland), CHARLES I, CHARLES II, JAMES II, ~ WILLIAM III & MARY II, ANNE, GEORGE I, GEORGE II, GEORGE III, GEORGE IV, WILLIAM IV, VICTORIA, EDWARD VII, GEORGE V, EDWARD VIII, GEORGE VI, ELIZABETH II "At point do we start? How about Edwy 933 - 959 Edgar 959 - 975 Edward the Martyr 975 - 979 Ethelred the Unready 979 - 1016 Edmund Ironside 1016 Bloody Saxons Canute 1016 - 1035 Harold 1 1035 - 1040 Hardicanute 1040 - 1042 Damned Danes Edward the Confessor 1042 - 1066 Harold II (Godwinson) 1066 Freekin Saxons again Bill the conker player I think we all know what happened after that Ferkin Frogs Make a rhyme out of that | |||
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" A study a few years ago calculated it costs far more for a presidency that it does a royal family. Not sure cost is paramount, and not sure that the rational for retaining a constitutional Monarch is as prosaic as 'they have a great tourist pull' I'm not advocating we should be abolishing the Monarchy, but in, what we all must hope, is a society based on meritocracy the role of a hereditary head of state is a valid subject for discussion. " It is completely anachronistic and will always be up for discussion. Once you accept the anachronism then you just get on with it and treat it as part of the heritage and tradition of the country. | |||
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"Where do we tick the box to give him right to reign ? Every time you vote you are voting for a system that supports a constitutional monarchy. Whether you like that or not that's what you are voting for (partly)." Exactly | |||
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"go elect a democracticly elected head of state and save your energy from this pointless debate for a worthy cause.....many many deseving britons deserve a chance representing the people as head of state...long live the people But we don't live in a republic, thank god. I could think of nothing more insidious than a Sarcozy-esque type character at the helm of this great nation and unable to get rid of the prat for 5 years. Our graceful monarch has not put a foot wrong in 60 years as Queen. Not a single faux pas, not one little 'bloody' has escaped her lips, nothing to make the country ashamed of her. She has adapted her role (and her family, how many can say that) when duty or current public mood has required it of her and never moaned about it. Her heart is with the Kingdom as it always has and always will be. So what that she was born to a role that some say she doesn't deserve to have just because of the circumstances of her birth, she still possessed the credentials to carry out her role with far more aplomb than our so called 'leaders', either political or business. The United Kingdom will miss her when she goes, and the world will have lost one of it's most gracious human beings. Long live the Queen." | |||
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