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Alternative therapy for waterworks

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Hi

Is there any alternative therapist that deals with water works problems. Tej finds sex painful for a few years and uses creams etc. She has a condition, lichens i think you call it, not a sexual transmissible condition and people, men and women can have it on their body/arms etc and sadly women ca have it in their vagina.

She uses steroid creams on and off and

if/when we have sex, even creams are not a great help but she is able to tolerate gradually a finger then me and then a toy then demands full, hard sex but afterwards for days it is painful if not weeks and no sex for weeks.

Any ideas, free initial consultation we do not mind if the therapist is male or female.

She does were cotton knickers, lose ones and non at night as that is supposed to help and shower with non scented soaps etc but we need other help if possible as with the nHS it is creams and steroid creams.

During lockdown she has gone down to size ten and we were hoping to go to Leysdown on Sunday but Tej is not sure because she knows I'll introduce her to someone and one thing may lead to another, then enjoyment but then pain for weeks, possibly.

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Thanks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't have any idea about alternative therapy but I really hope you get sorted, sounds horrible. X

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

I think you mean lichen sclerosis? If it's got to to the point where her vulva has become scarred and vaginal opening occluded, there's not much that can be done other than surgery to release the tissue. I'd ask for referral to a urogynaecologist (not just a standard gynaecologist) for consideration. It is possible to use dilators to try and widen things but if that hasn't worked, consult the correct surgery people because it won't improve and probably only worsen, unfortunately.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Thank you both.

Kiny, you know a lot more than I do.

Thankfully, we careful play ie starting with rubbing, finger, rubbing g spot etc, then myself in there and then a dildo and it bigger then mine and I'm medium down there she takes it well and wants more and faster but it's afterwards the soreness inside.

Tej refuses to see gp's apart from initial contacts and official diagnosis and now just gets the repeat prescription. She does not even want to talk about it and acared intitally when touched down there but gradually it works but i too feel guilty re after affects so just pleasure myself.

I read somewhere a while back that natural jucies help and I was hoping that an alternative therapist would help. The other thing I've asked her to do is when this covid thing is under control is to have a full body massage from a well hung guy and I go out of the room and then re-enter when she is ready. Condoms are painful as we used to use them on the dildo but no longer.

I miss more than her watching her enjoy another guy and am eager to seek alternatives but I hear you and thank you.

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land

Has she got her diagnosis confirmed by a medic?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

The worst thing a woman can do if she finds sex painful is try to use sex as a cure for the pain. If she won't see a medical professional for this then it will get worse. There is no juice, or massage from a well hung but that will cure her.

Why doesn't she want to see a professional?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"The worst thing a woman can do if she finds sex painful is try to use sex as a cure for the pain. If she won't see a medical professional for this then it will get worse. There is no juice, or massage from a well hung but that will cure her.

Why doesn't she want to see a professional?

"

* Well hung guy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know somebody who suffers from lichen sclerosis. It's incurable but manageable with dermovate, washing with emulsifier and she uses coconut oil daily. She has given up on sex as it's too painful and was told that surgery does not have a good success rate. She unfortunately left here because of it

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Thanks all,

Official diagnosis is LS via NHS soem years ago.

Re coconut oil, how is that used?

Tej only washes down there with water and uses unscented loo paper and cotton kickers and sleeps knicker-less and in warmer weather with dress no knickers as this does help.

I miss the sex and especailly see her enjoy other guys that was some years ago.

We are older and freer and now was the time for gang bangs and me watching and she was only pleasing me but can't now and i never force her ie try to hard as i can only imagine how it feels down inside there

Thanks all and i look forward re coconut oil and what type, brand and how used and the emulsifier what is that bran and can you wash your private bits in that?

Thanks again

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

Lichen sclerosis pre-disposes the person to squamous cell carcinoma, so regular medical check ups are to be recommended. Steroid creams come in all sorts of types and potencies and there's other potential treatment too. "Years ago" means that the treatment might now be wrong. No amount of coconut oil is going to un-adhere the adhesions and scarring that cause her pain.

She has a chronic inflammatory condition that results in the mucosal surfaces of the vulva scarring and sticking together. Forcing anything to push past the areas that are adhered together is like someone trying to force a cucumber up your urethra or something. It's no longer an elastic and pliable set of tissues, but a lichenified, thickened scar tissue.

Proper assessment by a urogynaecologist is what is required to see what can be done with conservative treatment or surgery. Allowing the inflammation to continue unchecked will potentially lead to the vaginal opening and/or the urethral opening becoming so small to be non functional or completely closed up.

A woman can live with no vaginal opening, but they sure as heck can't live without a urethral opening. "Years ago" needs to be updated to "recent examination".

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By *rotic desiresWoman
over a year ago

Here and there

Hi,

if you are looking into alternative therapies and treatments for this condition, I might suggest a homeopath, reflexologist or aromatherapist.

I am a reflexologist and aromatherapist myself. The first thing I would say is, always take medical advice from your general practitioner and heed their referrals to any other specialists. Inform them on any alternative treatments you may be partaking in. Query any medications you are on and potentially what side effects they may have... might they be part of the cause?

There is no known cause for this condition, an overactive immune system or hormonal imbalance may be part of the cause...hence the query on meds...

The next thing I would say is that the most important thing in life is to have balance, a healthy and balanced diet with plenty of fresh unprocessed foods, lots of water, take note of any foods which might irritate and exclude those. A mix of cardiovascular and weight bearing exercise for a healthy heart and joints. A healthy sleep pattern, avoid stress...these are all things that can have a massive impact on our immune systems.

As for essential oils, lemon and teatree are great for boosting the immune system. Frankincense is great for skin conditions and grounding. Rose is great for balancing the female hormones. Please get advice from your local health food store on how to use these or consult an aromatherapist as these oils are VERY POTENT...this could be combined with a reflexology treatment which I will go into also.

As for the coconut oil, if you decide to try this, go with organic, unrefined. Just apply to labia twice a day. You will need to be careful for any changes as there may be increased risk of thrush which would obviously aggravate the condition, but coconut oil lubricates and soothes otherwise...

If you decide to go with a reflexologist, get a referral. I'm not sure of the registration process where you are. Again ask a doctor...

Reflexology is not a quick fix. You would be given a treatment plan, which should be adjusted over the course of time. Initially you may need weekly sessions, while being asked to address certain lifestyle aspects...

There are many different holistic and alternative approaches. This is just one I would be familiar with...

I do hope you get some relief. In saying you, I mean both of you, as I understand that you are both suffering in your own individual ways with the condition.

All the best to you both x

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By *rotic desiresWoman
over a year ago

Here and there

And as the previous poster pointed out, an up to date examination, assessment of the condition by a general practitioner and whomever they refer you to, is important! Particularly if it has progressed to extensive scarring where surgery may be the only option!

Alternative therapies can only do so much.

xxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Thank you both, very helpful. To confirm, she did get it diagnosed a few years ago a full check up.

We are aware re risks.

Thanks again to you both for the detailed posts very helpful.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"...

During lockdown she has gone down to size ten and we were hoping to go to Leysdown on Sunday but Tej is not sure because she knows I'll introduce her to someone and one thing may lead to another, then enjoyment but then pain for weeks, possibly.

PM if you wish

Thanks

"

You are trying to get her to meet for sex with someone against her will?

Covid?

Wtf

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Thank you both, very helpful. To confirm, she did get it diagnosed a few years ago a full check up.

We are aware re risks.

Thanks again to you both for the detailed posts very helpful."

A few years is not now. This is a progressive condition that can cause the vagina and urethra to completely close up due to the inflammation and scarring. The vagina isn't essential but the urethra is. She should be seen at least annually by a specialist in the condition.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

thank you, tej will contact the gp.

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