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By *rincess peach OP   Woman
over a year ago

shits creek

I know this is LOOOOOOONG, I'm not gonna apologise for that. Today I've joined a support group and this was in there. I'm posting for those of us wondering why we can't seem to heal, to stop us giving ourselves such a hard time....and those who are cheating.... is this really what you want your partner to suffer?

When betrayal is disclosed, an array of long lasting physical, mental and emotional symptoms occur.

They say processing and recovery of these symptoms take 2-5 years provided the betrayed and the betrayer do what is required and both put in extreme effort and hard work. After 2-5 years – MAYBE you’ll start to feel like the old parts of you that you loved creep in.

But what happens before the 2-5 years? If you’ve discovered you’ve been sexually and/or emotionally betrayed, you’ve got one hell of an up-coming journey regardless if you stay or leave. It doesn’t matter if you were betrayed once or a thousand times; the symptoms and effort with processing are the same. If you’ve been betrayed, you will experience the following for 2-5 years – which your spouse won’t understand but may if it’s spelled out in black and white:

You will ask many many details of what they did, and

EACH answer will cause you to question more to try and connect the dots

EACH answer will cause you to rephrase the question to make sure they’re telling the truth

EACH answer will take minimum 7 days to process

EACH new discovery/answers to questions that have already been answered sets the betrayed back minimum 7 days

If you have 261 simultaneous thoughts and questions about the betrayal (I had/have more than this), and each take 7 days (or more) to process, there’s your 5 years.

Keep in mind, one thought takes 7 days, but we are not only thinking one thought. We are thinking and feeling:

a hundred thoughts at a time and ruminating about them all

about their afterthought guilt and shame and trying to find a fiber of compassion for them (seriously, I don’t know how we do it)

like zombies as if someone has taken over our bodies and minds

All the while – we’re:

working

taking care of parents

taking care of kids and really trying to stay patient

helping with homework

playing games with our kids

taking our kids to activities

playing fake happy face life with friends, family, co-workers and children

cooking

cleaning

grocery shopping

angry

enraged

resentful

anxious

disgusted by our spouse

thinking about hurting ourselves

blaming ourselves for being so stupid

suffering a severely diminished self esteem

ruminating about what they have that we don’t

in pain because of a STD

worried we’ve been exposed to HPV and need to go through screening for years

spending thousands of hours and dollars in counselling

spending thousands of dollars on medication

reading books and blogs on “How to Forgive Infidelity”

stalking the OW

conjuring up revenge scenarios

worried we’ll be homeless

worried the OW is pregnant

paranoid that he misses her/them

paranoid that he’s still talking to her/them

paranoid that he’s still meeting up with her/them

worried about what will happen to our children

hating our spouse

loving our spouse

suffering from PTSD

suffering nightmares of the affair(s)

suffering insomnia because of rumination and fear of the nightmares

drinking

doing drugs

not taking care of ourselves

feeling dirty

losing our identity

feeling like we want to run away

feel like we want to stay in bed

losing weight

fending off questions from our friends and family about what’s wrong

physical ailments from all of the stress hormones running though our bodies but still need to do all of the above patiently and gently so no one knows or sees your pain

And we don’t really remember doing ANY of the above because those 261 questions and thoughts are rolling around in there each with their 7 days of processing TAKE OVER OUR LIVES. You could be on day 5 for one, day 3 for another and day 7 for a new one which may cause the day 3 processing thought to reset and start the 7 days over again.

And then we get triggered – DAILY – by a song, driving by a place they met that was OUR place, frantically (and repeatedly) scouring though old emails, photos, texts, phone records, banking/credit card statement, pockets, drawers, behind couches and receipts trying to figure out the timeline and remember what exactly was going on that exact day, which causes more triggers, processing days and hours and hours of a domino effect of spiraling and going “there”.

Betrayers: hopefully this will help you understand that we can’t just “get over it”, why at year 1 we still have items that need 7 day processing, why at year 2 we’re starting to feel ok but still go “there”, why at year 5 we still aren’t ourselves and why we will never be ourselves again.

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By *irty desireWoman
over a year ago

newcatle

This is amazing.. thank you for sharing something I couldn’t put into words

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By *iamondCougarWoman
over a year ago

Norfuck! / Lincolnshire

You’re a wise lady Peach you should be a councillor as this will help others too

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By *gent CoulsonMan
over a year ago

Secret hideaway in the pennines

It seems I have a long journey ahead of me

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By *rincess peach OP   Woman
over a year ago

shits creek


"This is amazing.. thank you for sharing something I couldn’t put into words "

It's obviously copy n pasted, but it made so much sense to me and kinda let me take a breath and stop wondering "why can't I heal? What more can I do?"

The truth is ... Time by the looks of things.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm glad you've finally sought support to try and heal.

But not so glad that you seem so willing to accept it on someone else's timeline

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By *ensuallover1000Man
over a year ago

Somewhere In The Ether…

A superb post m’lady xxx

Actions have consequences both direct and indirect, much akin to the ripples on a pond and the said effects upon others will invariably remain and be felt for long periods of time, even a lifetime.

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By *rincess peach OP   Woman
over a year ago

shits creek


"I'm glad you've finally sought support to try and heal.

But not so glad that you seem so willing to accept it on someone else's timeline "

If having a timeline that makes sense stops me feeling like I'm failing at healing, I'll accept it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m really feeling this today.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

One step at a time, one day at a time. There isn’t a set time line but you will get there.

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By *irty desireWoman
over a year ago

newcatle


"This is amazing.. thank you for sharing something I couldn’t put into words

It's obviously copy n pasted, but it made so much sense to me and kinda let me take a breath and stop wondering "why can't I heal? What more can I do?"

The truth is ... Time by the looks of things.

"

You are a beautiful human with your words and kindness.. I have faith that you will come out the other end!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *imi_RougeWoman
over a year ago

Portsmouth

And people on here wonder why they get a hard time for cheating.

They should read that!

(heart)

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By *imi_RougeWoman
over a year ago

Portsmouth

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

As someone else pointed out there doesn't need to be a set time frame for healing .

Do what you feels right for you , every day .

ya Peach

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thank you.

I don't think it will stop the cheaters but it can help people like me feel I'm not going crazy xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some of that really resonated with me, I know it takes time but I’m getting impatient with myself as I expected to be able to put it behind me x

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

I wouldn't say it took me 2 yeara to get over being cheated on. If anything I was kind of glad it happened in the end as it was the push I needed to see him for what he really was. It probably did take me years to get over the manipulation from that relationship though. I found it so hard to communicate my feelings when I first got with my current long term partner because I'd basically been conditioned not to as it always resulted in too much emotional turmoil. I'm past that now but I'm still an excessive apologiser and I still can't cope with someone raising their voice at me as it makes me panic inside. I don't think I'll ever fully get past those things but I can work around them with the right partners.

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By *uxom redCouple
over a year ago

Shrewsbury

Peach, I really need to give you a big hug.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm glad you've finally sought support to try and heal.

But not so glad that you seem so willing to accept it on someone else's timeline "

Sometimes having a timeline helps makes sense of pain and healing. They don't have to be set in stone but just like all sorts of healing, it can be a way of understanding and accepting that it's a process. A way of feeling a little more human.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sending you love and hugs Peach

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *issmorganWoman
over a year ago

Calderdale innit

You're one amazing strong lady peach, sending love, you will get through this and be even stronger on the other side x

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By *ookie46Woman
over a year ago

Deepest darkest Peru

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By *rincess peach OP   Woman
over a year ago

shits creek

I'm not gonna reply to every post, this OP was for all of us, not me.

Where I'm at now?

I've found myself self sabotaging a fair amount recently. In truth I've been bloody angry at myself for feeling no closer to being "better" than I was a year ago. Instead of the anger being directed outwardly tho it's redirected towards myself. Wondering what the fuck is wrong with me coz I'd not want him back so why do I still feel so shitty? That kinda thing.

The blanket ban on relationships that I've imposed on myself felt in some way defeatist.... but at the same time sensible and "right"

It's not like I think about him unless I'm responding to a thread and it's inkeeping, I don't miss him. For me it's mainly the trusting again, which is something that makes my stomach churn and chest pound just thinking about it.

So yeah, this helps me not be so hard on myself.

Much love to you all

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By *edeWoman
over a year ago

the abyss

As they say - time is a great healer

Sending love

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By *rincess peach OP   Woman
over a year ago

shits creek

I just lied I think. I do think about him more than I realise.

Songs etc. Reminders that you don't even notice as reminders.

Yeah, I fibbed.

Just goes to show how subconscious it is.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

If any fucker out there considers cheating, just get a grip of yourself, after reading this and letting it sink in.

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
over a year ago

Bedford

Ah,can love be trusted? Having never been there I'm not qualified to advise.

I'll say one thing, always expect the worst and save something in the bank emotionally when starting a relationship.

That way you come out the other end a little less scarred if things go south.

As for reminders, not much you can do.

Ride the storm until your in a better place.

Life's a bitch.

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By *j69funCouple
over a year ago

kildare

Great Post op , I struggled through this for 5 years and always taught i was losing it and I'd never let anyone into my life again. But just 2 year ago I meet the wonderful miss j and she made me belive in myself and is showing me the power of love.

So never give up and always talk things through with someone, love will find again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm not gonna reply to every post, this OP was for all of us, not me.

Where I'm at now?

I've found myself self sabotaging a fair amount recently. In truth I've been bloody angry at myself for feeling no closer to being "better" than I was a year ago. Instead of the anger being directed outwardly tho it's redirected towards myself. Wondering what the fuck is wrong with me coz I'd not want him back so why do I still feel so shitty? That kinda thing.

The blanket ban on relationships that I've imposed on myself felt in some way defeatist.... but at the same time sensible and "right"

It's not like I think about him unless I'm responding to a thread and it's inkeeping, I don't miss him. For me it's mainly the trusting again, which is something that makes my stomach churn and chest pound just thinking about it.

So yeah, this helps me not be so hard on myself.

Much love to you all "

When you slide back, and drop into old habits, that’s when you can see the progress you’ve made, and the healing you’ve done.

All your emotions are valid and part of a process.

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

I don’t have anything to add other than I’m so glad that you’re getting support and you should be proud of yourself.

You were never failing, just healing and that takes time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thanks for sharing that.

I'm not sure how many betrayers will pay attention but it's great to show them consequences

The interesting things to me were how long it takes if BOTH parties hard to fix the breach in the relationship

And also how the ptsd is described. Being triggered by seemingly anything or everything is exhausting.

People dismiss you as being overly dramatic or too sensitive. But it's not like that.

For me my triggers were red towels, chlorine, empty swimming pools. Sometimes it was an accent of someone who looked like my abuser, or a beard like his or his cul de sac haircut.

And I didn't even remember that something had happened but part of me knew.

So again PP thank you. Forum therapy is intense but good.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm glad you've finally sought support to try and heal.

But not so glad that you seem so willing to accept it on someone else's timeline "

Perhaps when you’re feeling lost, battered and bruised, knowing there is an end to it by some means, any means, can help give hope.

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By *inkySeeKinkyDoWoman
over a year ago

'tween PontyCarlo & CasVegas in West Yorks

Peach i totally hear you and have experienced all the things you are going through.

Time is definitely the key, and there is no limit to that time.

19 years on I can now think of my betrayer and not have the awful dark thoughts about him that i once did. Those thoughts controlled my every day life for so long, but im free of them now.

I read your posts and feel such empathy for you, but keep the faith darlin, you will get there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I couldn't reply to this at the time. Thank you for this post Peach. It got me thinking about my past,a long way in to my past. I'm still a work in progress but some things are starting to make sense.

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

Great post, OP.

I am not holding grudges, I am able to forgive and move on with relative ease.

That post explains though why there are a couple of things (essentially blatant lies some 12 years ago) which, when I think about them today still stir up the same emotion of betrayal. I could never be with that person again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

all i can do is shut the door.

blank them, in everything.

no anger, rage or shouting back. just silence.

they no longer exist.

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By *rincess peach OP   Woman
over a year ago

shits creek


"I couldn't reply to this at the time. Thank you for this post Peach. It got me thinking about my past,a long way in to my past. I'm still a work in progress but some things are starting to make sense. "

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By *viatrixWoman
over a year ago

Redhill

Thanks for that....

Nearly 4 years on and I haven’t healed! The rage episodes have subsided though.

Finding out about the betrayal felt quite literally like being struck on the head with a big beam with a sharp nail on the end. Some articles I’ve read equal it to feeling a gunshot.

Much love to those of you who have felt that. x

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