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By *abio OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

1 rule…. No Union bashing league and no league bashing union!

Right….. 1st topic…. Lions selection…. Whinge away! Lol

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By *abio OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

AJW going to captain tour….. I don’t think I would have done that because I don’t think he is a nailed on starter in the lions test XV … I would have gone with Maro Itjoe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Announcing side at 12.30 should be interesting ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Itoje gave to many penalties away in the 6 nations, awj will nail it

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By *andybeachWoman
over a year ago

In the middle

I think AWJ is the best choice, Itoje tho brilliant can be a bit of a liability

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well now...I like the Lions as a spectacle but I'm not overly enthusiastic about it. I would much rather see ireland win. I'm sure any rugby fan prefers their home nation rather than a hybrid team. But of course its rugby at a high level so always worth watching. I do have an issue with Galand. Not as a coach per se but in his attitude toward irish players. His parting with the IRFU was not the most pleasant and he has had a chip on his shoulder ever since. Not for a second am I suggesting that any irish player should have an automatic right but his treatment of Brian O Driscoll in 2013 was disgraceful. A coach that holds a gripe is not a good idea. We are still very wary of him here in ireland

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"AJW going to captain tour….. I don’t think I would have done that because I don’t think he is a nailed on starter in the lions test XV … I would have gone with Maro Itjoe"

I wouldn’t of even considered him for skipper and possibly not for the tour.

Having said that though I do think he’ll be good for the midweek side.

I presume the tour will be a normal lions format with provincial games midweek.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ll wait to see the official selection here as Fabio is always super reliable with this kind of info.

Cheers.

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By *abio OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Okay.. wow…. Did I miss johnny sextons name? Also…. James Ryan????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not sure about AWJ as captain but then again who else can be seriously considered, certainly not Farrell

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Okay.. wow…. Did I miss johnny sextons name? Also…. James Ryan????"
.. Not surprised with Sexton.. He has suffered injury and form not what it was. Surprised with Ryan though. AWJ a good choice at captain

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By *abio OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

His selections at 2nd row are going to be questioned… Corey hill and Courtney lawes over James Ryan and Ritchie gray!

Garry ringrose can consider himself unlucky to be left out…. Also Kyle sinckler and johnathon davies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Okay.. wow…. Did I miss johnny sextons name? Also…. James Ryan????"
yeah, big surprise no sexton or Ryan, thought sexton was a cert !!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Zammits parents must be glowing with pride, possibly the youngest lion to make a tour ??

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By *andybeachWoman
over a year ago

In the middle


"His selections at 2nd row are going to be questioned… Corey hill and Courtney lawes over James Ryan and Ritchie gray!

Garry ringrose can consider himself unlucky to be left out…. Also Kyle sinckler and johnathon davies

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Richie Gray is a proper work horse I would have him in my team, Kyle Sinckler is a 50/50 bet on wether he’s having a good day or a bad day Personally I don’t rate Stuart Hogg at all, he could have stayed at home for me

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By *andybeachWoman
over a year ago

In the middle


"Zammits parents must be glowing with pride, possibly the youngest lion to make a tour ??"

What a great young man to have on any team!! Well done to him

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By *ornyandmasseurCouple
over a year ago

new forest

AWJ is a good choice of Captain, see what he’s done with Wales, he’s a born winner and leader, great with referees and that’s what you need as a Captain. Itoje is still a bit too inexperienced to captain the tour and was a lot less disciplined in This 6 nations than what he used us to

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By *abio OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"His selections at 2nd row are going to be questioned… Corey hill and Courtney lawes over James Ryan and Ritchie gray!

Garry ringrose can consider himself unlucky to be left out…. Also Kyle sinckler and johnathon davies

Richie Gray is a proper work horse I would have him in my team, Kyle Sinckler is a 50/50 bet on wether he’s having a good day or a bad day Personally I don’t rate Stuart Hogg at all, he could have stayed at home for me "

Gatland saved me the argument of what use is Johnny may by leaving him out…

I like bundee Aki… but no way am I putting him in instead of ringrose! Johnny hill is a lucky boy as well!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Many league fans on here?

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By *abio OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

By the way… 11 English, 10 Welsh, 8 Irish and 8 Scots on the lions plane… about as even a split as I can remember

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By *abio OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Many league fans on here?"

I like Aussie rugby league and state of origin….

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By *reen31Man
over a year ago

Hawick


"His selections at 2nd row are going to be questioned… Corey hill and Courtney lawes over James Ryan and Ritchie gray!

Garry ringrose can consider himself unlucky to be left out…. Also Kyle sinckler and johnathon davies

Surely you mean Johnny Gray

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By *abio OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"His selections at 2nd row are going to be questioned… Corey hill and Courtney lawes over James Ryan and Ritchie gray!

Garry ringrose can consider himself unlucky to be left out…. Also Kyle sinckler and johnathon davies

Surely you mean Johnny Gray

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The younger gray whichever that one was lol I get them mixed up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sam simmonds

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By *ntrepid ExplorersCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham

Detroit Lions 2021 NFL Draft Picks:

Round 1: No. 7 – Penei Sewell, OT, Oregon

Round 2: No. 41 – Levi Onwuzurike, DT, Washington

Round 3: No. 72 – Alim McNeill, DT, NC State

Round 3: No. 101 (from LAR) – Ifeatu Melifonwu, CB, Syracuse

Round 4: No. 112 – Amon-Ra St. Brown, WR, USC

Round 4: No. 113 (from CAR through CLE) – Derrick Barnes, LB, Purdue

Round 7: No. 257 (from BUF through CLE) – Jermar Jefferson, RB, Oregon State

Erm. nope, don't know a thing about any of them, hope they work well Jared Goff though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Many league fans on here?

I like Aussie rugby league and state of origin…."

Super League isn't great at the moment, Shane to see it's decline

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By *andybeachWoman
over a year ago

In the middle


"His selections at 2nd row are going to be questioned… Corey hill and Courtney lawes over James Ryan and Ritchie gray!

Garry ringrose can consider himself unlucky to be left out…. Also Kyle sinckler and johnathon davies

Surely you mean Johnny Gray

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Blimey I got mixed up too

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By *urchoicenowCouple
over a year ago

Ashford


"By the way… 11 English, 10 Welsh, 8 Irish and 8 Scots on the lions plane… about as even a split as I can remember "

11 from a team that came 5th in the six nations ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Detroit Lions 2021 NFL Draft Picks:

Round 1: No. 7 – Penei Sewell, OT, Oregon

Round 2: No. 41 – Levi Onwuzurike, DT, Washington

Round 3: No. 72 – Alim McNeill, DT, NC State

Round 3: No. 101 (from LAR) – Ifeatu Melifonwu, CB, Syracuse

Round 4: No. 112 – Amon-Ra St. Brown, WR, USC

Round 4: No. 113 (from CAR through CLE) – Derrick Barnes, LB, Purdue

Round 7: No. 257 (from BUF through CLE) – Jermar Jefferson, RB, Oregon State

Erm. nope, don't know a thing about any of them, hope they work well Jared Goff though."

Not knocking it but nought to do with Lions (by the way good luck with Goff, confidence shot not good in a QB that can't read coverage)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"By the way… 11 English, 10 Welsh, 8 Irish and 8 Scots on the lions plane… about as even a split as I can remember

11 from a team that came 5th in the six nations ? "

The best English player going wasn’t ever anywhere near the six nations squad, (Sam simmonds).

I cannot believe he’s taking Elliot Daly

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)


"AJW going to captain tour….. I don’t think I would have done that because I don’t think he is a nailed on starter in the lions test XV … I would have gone with Maro Itjoe"

I agree.

There’s something to be said for the talisman aspect of AWJ but I can’t see him playing every game.

Perhaps Itoje will captain a couple of games?

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By *abio OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"By the way… 11 English, 10 Welsh, 8 Irish and 8 Scots on the lions plane… about as even a split as I can remember

11 from a team that came 5th in the six nations ?

The best English player going wasn’t ever anywhere near the six nations squad, (Sam simmonds).

I cannot believe he’s taking Elliot Daly "

I see why he took Daly… utility.. he can play wing, centre or full back! I don’t think he plays any well but that another discussion….

As my friend my friend said, gatland is a secret genius as he has managed to get The Irish, Welsh and English fighting against some Of their own inclusions… and when the Scots get over the fact they got 8 on the plane, they can join our discussion lol

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By *imbo59seMan
over a year ago

North Norfolk area

As far as 2nd rows go, Ryan hasn't been the same since injuries. Not much to choose between the 2 Jonny's. Gray provides pure grunt, Hill is a good lineout spoiler, gets around the park well, and scores tries...almost for fun. Beirne and Lawes are there as for 2nd row cover as well.

Surprised Underhill isn't going!

Sexton has had too many failed HIA's recently, plus can be a bit fragile, so for his health, glad he's not going. Personally, I'd like to have seen Paddy Jackson given a chance, he's certainly in form at the moment, although may be still a bit soon following his "transgressions"!

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By *imbo59seMan
over a year ago

North Norfolk area

Can sort of see why, in the absence of a crash ball merchant (Tuilagi etc) why "O'Aki" is going, but would rather have seen Slade on the plane, not least that he can provide FH cover.

Really can't see the justification of providing Van der Merwe with an all expenses trip home (certainly not at the expense of May). Still, at least he can order the beers in the local lingo!

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By *imbo59seMan
over a year ago

North Norfolk area

Spencer is probably the form SH in the Premiership at the moment, but probably is still suffering from the Saracens "fall out".

On that subject, George, Daly, Mako and especially Farrell.....just why????

Sinckler can possibly feel a bit aggrieved.

Still, if I knew as much as the selectors.......

Glad I decided not to go, not entirely sure there will be spectators!!

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By * and R cple4Couple
over a year ago

swansea

Not saying this purely because I’m a Osprey fan and I’m welsh .Regardless if he plays every game there is no one better than Awj on and off the pitch he leads by example .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"AJW going to captain tour….. I don’t think I would have done that because I don’t think he is a nailed on starter in the lions test XV … I would have gone with Maro Itjoe

I agree.

There’s something to be said for the talisman aspect of AWJ but I can’t see him playing every game.

Perhaps Itoje will captain a couple of games? "

Tour captain doesn’t mean test captain. See the first test of the last tour

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"By the way… 11 English, 10 Welsh, 8 Irish and 8 Scots on the lions plane… about as even a split as I can remember

11 from a team that came 5th in the six nations ? "

But came 2nd in the World Cup. Maybe he can coach them better than Eddie can

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By *imbo59seMan
over a year ago

North Norfolk area


"By the way… 11 English, 10 Welsh, 8 Irish and 8 Scots on the lions plane… about as even a split as I can remember

11 from a team that came 5th in the six nations ? "

And also won the 6N and Autumn Cup, all within a 12 month period!!

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By *gent CoulsonMan
over a year ago

Secret hideaway in the pennines


"I think AWJ is the best choice, Itoje tho brilliant can be a bit of a liability "

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By *ugbycoachMan
over a year ago

Loughborough

Looks like it'll be the Tartan Dirt Trackers as the midweek tourists!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone else going to Twickenham on Saturday? Chiefs fan here

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By *abio OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Are we going to use this one as the lions thread.. or the one in the Wales forum or do we start a new one here?

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By *uke OzadeMan
over a year ago

Ho Chi Minge City

Looks like that’s the end of the tour for AWJ then. Real shame as he’s a dinosaur so wont make the next one

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By *abio OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Yep… 2 players gone… 2 players brought in, and a brand new tour captain…,well done Conor!

In the other rugby code… origin 2 is kicking off in the next hour… will Queensland come back from the humping they took from New South Wales in origin 1

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

Hogg captain for today’s match and start for Price and Russell

Russell and Farrell pairing interesting - apparently working well together in training

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By *uriousformoreMan
over a year ago

Northwest

I think Chris Harris is a secret weapon of the Lions... be great tobsee him start today with Farrels experiance inside him.

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By *uke OzadeMan
over a year ago

Ho Chi Minge City

So the Lions just got beaten by the Boks A side even though they played 10 mins with 13 men. Not looking good for the tests if this is the best Gatland had available today.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who what where when?

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By *uke OzadeMan
over a year ago

Ho Chi Minge City


"Who what where when?"

They’ve just finished. It’s one of the warm up games

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By *errynjuneCouple
over a year ago

Barnsley

That took ages before league was given its last rites, again.

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By *imbo59seMan
over a year ago

North Norfolk area

If that's a true SA 'A' Team (Marx, Koch, Etzebeth, du Toit, de Klerk, Le Roux etc etc), then we're screwed!

Owens was OK in the set, nothing else. Henderson might have played himself out of contention, as may have Faletau. Murray is too slow (as is Farrell, at 10, although his kicking may save him). Williams seems to be a bit of a lightweight, but may be concussed anyway. I had Harris as a possible, but not sure anymore.

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By *imbo59seMan
over a year ago

North Norfolk area

My starting XV for the first Test would be :

Wynn Jones

LDC

Sinckler

Itoje

Hill

Beirne

Curry

Conan

Price

Biggar

VDM

Farrell

Henderson (if fit, if not, Aki [reluctantly])

Adams

Watson

Bench :

Vunipola

George

Furlong

Lawes

Faletau

Murray

Hogg

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If that's a true SA 'A' Team (Marx, Koch, Etzebeth, du Toit, de Klerk, Le Roux etc etc), then we're screwed!

Owens was OK in the set, nothing else. Henderson might have played himself out of contention, as may have Faletau. Murray is too slow (as is Farrell, at 10, although his kicking may save him). Williams seems to be a bit of a lightweight, but may be concussed anyway. I had Harris as a possible, but not sure anymore."

It was an unofficial 4th test which might come back to haunt the Boks. Now Gatland has a chance to do the analysis work on them before the test series. Plus they didn’t score a single second half point. Things to work on but not hopeless yet

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