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"I'd cut all the religion and shaming girls and women (Eve tempted Adam therefore girls lead men to stray, etc). And I'd actually have some sex education." That was actually a thing?! | |||
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"Could have showed me some better positions, mish is boring " That’s what position of the week in magazines was for | |||
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"I'd cut all the religion and shaming girls and women (Eve tempted Adam therefore girls lead men to stray, etc). And I'd actually have some sex education. That was actually a thing?! " That was my sex education | |||
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"I'd cut all the religion and shaming girls and women (Eve tempted Adam therefore girls lead men to stray, etc). And I'd actually have some sex education. That was actually a thing?! That was my sex education " Sounds vaguely familiar, along with school assemblies where we had to kneel to check our skirts were long enough. As not to distract the boys | |||
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"Pegging " That would be an interesting lesson... “Did all of you remember to bring your strap ons? Jessica? Where’s your dildo? Gavin, leave that lube alone!” | |||
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"I actually didn't have any in my school at all. We were taught the biology of reproduction and that was essentially it. Think condoms may have been briefly mentioned in form 6 but only as a deterrent against pregnancy and AIDS, not how to use or anything useful. It's something that should be taught in schools, my parents told me nothing. Think a more rounded approach should be given not just the fundamentals of reproduction and how to use birth control. " This was my experience too, very little in school other than reproduction and parents didnt say much either. | |||
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"I'd cut all the religion and shaming girls and women (Eve tempted Adam therefore girls lead men to stray, etc). And I'd actually have some sex education. That was actually a thing?! That was my sex education Sounds vaguely familiar, along with school assemblies where we had to kneel to check our skirts were long enough. As not to distract the boys " Yup. All the hoops we had to go through. For the boys. | |||
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"I actually didn't have any in my school at all. We were taught the biology of reproduction and that was essentially it. Think condoms may have been briefly mentioned in form 6 but only as a deterrent against pregnancy and AIDS, not how to use or anything useful. It's something that should be taught in schools, my parents told me nothing. Think a more rounded approach should be given not just the fundamentals of reproduction and how to use birth control. " Much the same for me too. It was all about preventing pregnancy and that no sex was the best prevention against STI’s and pregnancy. | |||
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"I'd cut all the religion and shaming girls and women (Eve tempted Adam therefore girls lead men to stray, etc). And I'd actually have some sex education. That was actually a thing?! That was my sex education Sounds vaguely familiar, along with school assemblies where we had to kneel to check our skirts were long enough. As not to distract the boys Yup. All the hoops we had to go through. For the boys. " Oh how the tables have turned! | |||
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"I actually didn't have any in my school at all. We were taught the biology of reproduction and that was essentially it. Think condoms may have been briefly mentioned in form 6 but only as a deterrent against pregnancy and AIDS, not how to use or anything useful. It's something that should be taught in schools, my parents told me nothing. Think a more rounded approach should be given not just the fundamentals of reproduction and how to use birth control. " Same here. Though I knew that much already before it was even taught. | |||
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" Also talk about how sex isn't just for men!! " The problems with my sex ed were bigger, but also this. No, sex isn't about me submitting reluctantly to my duty because babies | |||
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"That STIs can be passed through oral sex. About HPV and the cervical cancer risk. I think it would have also been helpful for sex education to cover things like UTIs, thrush and BV. Maybe talk about potential sexual problems like erectile dysfunction, premature ejaculation, inadequate vaginal lubricantion or painful sex and things to help with these. Also talk about how sex isn't just for men!! " This would be a good start! I think talking about menstruation would be good too | |||
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"I'd cut all the religion and shaming girls and women (Eve tempted Adam therefore girls lead men to stray, etc). And I'd actually have some sex education. That was actually a thing?! That was my sex education Sounds vaguely familiar, along with school assemblies where we had to kneel to check our skirts were long enough. As not to distract the boys Yup. All the hoops we had to go through. For the boys. Oh how the tables have turned! " Sometimes. Haha | |||
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"I actually didn't have any in my school at all. We were taught the biology of reproduction and that was essentially it. Think condoms may have been briefly mentioned in form 6 but only as a deterrent against pregnancy and AIDS, not how to use or anything useful. It's something that should be taught in schools, my parents told me nothing. Think a more rounded approach should be given not just the fundamentals of reproduction and how to use birth control. " This was pretty much what I had...with the teacher awkwardly handing us 2 tampons in an oh so inconspicuous bright pink holder at the end of it | |||
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"I'd cut all the religion and shaming girls and women (Eve tempted Adam therefore girls lead men to stray, etc). And I'd actually have some sex education. That was actually a thing?! That was my sex education Sounds vaguely familiar, along with school assemblies where we had to kneel to check our skirts were long enough. As not to distract the boys " Because big boobies weren't distracting, were they? | |||
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"That STIs can be passed through oral sex. About HPV and the cervical cancer risk. I think it would have also been helpful for sex education to cover things like UTIs, thrush and BV. Maybe talk about potential sexual problems like erectile dysfunction, premature ejaculation, inadequate vaginal lubricantion or painful sex and things to help with these. Also talk about how sex isn't just for men!! This would be a good start! I think talking about menstruation would be good too" Fortunately we had pretty good lessons about both male and female puberty in the last year of primary school. | |||
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"What did your sexual education classes miss that you would seem as essential information and how would you change them? " Do you know what current sex education in schools cover? I know mine was very basic, no positive reinforcement of homosexuality, consent, different gender and sexual identities, the risks, ramifications and responsibilities of sexual activity (pregnancy and STD’s), confirmation that everyones bits may look different (and thats ok and not an excuse for bullying behaviour), that sex can be fun and enjoyable and isn’t just for procreation, that enjoying sex isn't a bad thing | |||
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"What did your sexual education classes miss that you would seem as essential information and how would you change them? Do you know what current sex education in schools cover? I know mine was very basic, no positive reinforcement of homosexuality, consent, different gender and sexual identities, the risks, ramifications and responsibilities of sexual activity (pregnancy and STD’s), confirmation that everyones bits may look different (and thats ok and not an excuse for bullying behaviour), that sex can be fun and enjoyable and isn’t just for procreation, that enjoying sex isn't a bad thing" Omg this is an incredibly good point! I still have grown adults ask me how two women have sex. | |||
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"I'd cut all the religion and shaming girls and women (Eve tempted Adam therefore girls lead men to stray, etc). And I'd actually have some sex education. That was actually a thing?! That was my sex education Sounds vaguely familiar, along with school assemblies where we had to kneel to check our skirts were long enough. As not to distract the boys Because big boobies weren't distracting, were they?" Some of the more well endowed girls in my year were ripped into by our teachers. As if it were their fault. Fortunately before I left that school I was no more than a B cup | |||
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"Female masterbation (it's all about the males) and more into female contraceptives. Her x" That’s a good point. Everyone maturbates, destigmatising it would be great | |||
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"That STIs can be passed through oral sex. About HPV and the cervical cancer risk. I think it would have also been helpful for sex education to cover things like UTIs, thrush and BV. Maybe talk about potential sexual problems like erectile dysfunction, premature ejaculation, inadequate vaginal lubricantion or painful sex and things to help with these. Also talk about how sex isn't just for men!! " So agree with what you said. And information on what is and isn't normal vaginal discharge, how it changes in a cycle. That all labia look different not the small neat tucked in versions in the books. | |||
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"I'd cut all the religion and shaming girls and women (Eve tempted Adam therefore girls lead men to stray, etc). And I'd actually have some sex education. That was actually a thing?! That was my sex education Sounds vaguely familiar, along with school assemblies where we had to kneel to check our skirts were long enough. As not to distract the boys Because big boobies weren't distracting, were they? Some of the more well endowed girls in my year were ripped into by our teachers. As if it were their fault. Fortunately before I left that school I was no more than a B cup " I was picked on in school for having big boobs. As if I did it on purpose . | |||
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"I'd cut all the religion and shaming girls and women (Eve tempted Adam therefore girls lead men to stray, etc). And I'd actually have some sex education. That was actually a thing?! That was my sex education Sounds vaguely familiar, along with school assemblies where we had to kneel to check our skirts were long enough. As not to distract the boys Because big boobies weren't distracting, were they? Some of the more well endowed girls in my year were ripped into by our teachers. As if it were their fault. Fortunately before I left that school I was no more than a B cup I was picked on in school for having big boobs. As if I did it on purpose ." It's bad enough when just the kids do it, which they will. I'm sorry that happened to you. | |||
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"What did your sexual education classes miss that you would seem as essential information and how would you change them? Do you know what current sex education in schools cover? I know mine was very basic, no positive reinforcement of homosexuality, consent, different gender and sexual identities, the risks, ramifications and responsibilities of sexual activity (pregnancy and STD’s), confirmation that everyones bits may look different (and thats ok and not an excuse for bullying behaviour), that sex can be fun and enjoyable and isn’t just for procreation, that enjoying sex isn't a bad thing" My oldest boy is having sex education in school. so I get a good idea | |||
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"I'd cut all the religion and shaming girls and women (Eve tempted Adam therefore girls lead men to stray, etc). And I'd actually have some sex education. That was actually a thing?! That was my sex education Sounds vaguely familiar, along with school assemblies where we had to kneel to check our skirts were long enough. As not to distract the boys Because big boobies weren't distracting, were they?" Well mine weren't, was actually teased in school for being flat chested and looking too much like a boy. Puberty struck me late. And if any male get distracted from their work because of my large boobs which are obviously covered. They need to have a long hard look at themselves not my tits. | |||
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"I actually didn't have any in my school at all. We were taught the biology of reproduction and that was essentially it. Think condoms may have been briefly mentioned in form 6 but only as a deterrent against pregnancy and AIDS, not how to use or anything useful. It's something that should be taught in schools, my parents told me nothing. Think a more rounded approach should be given not just the fundamentals of reproduction and how to use birth control. This was pretty much what I had...with the teacher awkwardly handing us 2 tampons in an oh so inconspicuous bright pink holder at the end of it " I forgot about the bright pink tampon holders! They were given out after the girls were taken out of class for the "period" talk. I still think the boys should have been in that talk too. | |||
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"I'd cut all the religion and shaming girls and women (Eve tempted Adam therefore girls lead men to stray, etc). And I'd actually have some sex education. That was actually a thing?! That was my sex education Sounds vaguely familiar, along with school assemblies where we had to kneel to check our skirts were long enough. As not to distract the boys Because big boobies weren't distracting, were they? Well mine weren't, was actually teased in school for being flat chested and looking too much like a boy. Puberty struck me late. And if any male get distracted from their work because of my large boobs which are obviously covered. They need to have a long hard look at themselves not my tits. " Yup. Less "cover yourself girls" and more "control yourself, everyone" would be great. | |||
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"We didn't have sex education when I were a lad. We did have a chapter in our biology text book that covered the topic though along with pictures of the male and female anatomy. Needless to say the pages of that chapter were tatty and dogeared." And the sperm had moustaches drawn in? | |||
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"We didn't have sex education when I were a lad. We did have a chapter in our biology text book that covered the topic though along with pictures of the male and female anatomy. Needless to say the pages of that chapter were tatty and dogeared. And the sperm had moustaches drawn in?" and specs | |||
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"We didn't have sex education when I were a lad. We did have a chapter in our biology text book that covered the topic though along with pictures of the male and female anatomy. Needless to say the pages of that chapter were tatty and dogeared. And the sperm had moustaches drawn in? and specs" Obviously, how could I forget? Saw a while ago a Roman graffiti of a penis had been found carved into a wall. Good to know things don't change much. | |||
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"We didn't have sex education when I were a lad. We did have a chapter in our biology text book that covered the topic though along with pictures of the male and female anatomy. Needless to say the pages of that chapter were tatty and dogeared. And the sperm had moustaches drawn in? and specs Obviously, how could I forget? Saw a while ago a Roman graffiti of a penis had been found carved into a wall. Good to know things don't change much." If you go to Pompeii, they’re everywhere! | |||
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"I would think some way of explaining to adolescents that sex is not actually like porn" | |||
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"I would think some way of explaining to adolescents that sex is not actually like porn" Well, it can be but you hurt your back quite a lot... | |||
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"We were given a book in biology to look at, that was literally it. I saw the video they showed the then year 6's (6 years ago ish), clearly labelled cartoon people which morphed into actual people. I remember being a little shocked when they spoke about the clitorus. Not because I'm a prude or anything, I just thought ' is it important for an 11 year old to know that'!" I think it's important for people - particularly girls - to know the correct words for their anatomy. We don't shy away from talking about knees or ankles, why do we with clitorises (hmm, what is the plural of clitoris?!) or vulvas? | |||
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"The only Sex Ed I received was at the age of 15 when in a Religion class our form tutor told us he’d take us into town so we can watch gay men kissing down the back streets..." That's....that's.....wow. | |||
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"Ohhh this is a very hot topic with me right now! Highly recommended Jacob Hawley's podcast On Love, he has a whole episode about this. For me, I think normalising different kinds of sex, bodies and relationships. Normalising masturbation for all. Porn ain't real. COMMUNICATION. For starters! Mrs kf x" That’s really helpful! I think that consent is a vital part of required education, also around respect and what constitutes harassment | |||
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"I would think some way of explaining to adolescents that sex is not actually like porn " In the same way that dating is nothing like Love Island and all the other crap. | |||
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"The only Sex Ed I received was at the age of 15 when in a Religion class our form tutor told us he’d take us into town so we can watch gay men kissing down the back streets... That's....that's.....wow." Today's lesson is how to be a rent boy: that couldn't get any worse. If sex outside marriage is bad, how doe pedophile priests not cause the catholic church to feel guilty and kick out those perverts? | |||
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"That STIs can be passed through oral sex. About HPV and the cervical cancer risk. I think it would have also been helpful for sex education to cover things like UTIs, thrush and BV. Maybe talk about potential sexual problems like erectile dysfunction, premature ejaculation, inadequate vaginal lubricantion or painful sex and things to help with these. Also talk about how sex isn't just for men!! This would be a good start! I think talking about menstruation would be good too" oh we got the menstruation talk in primary school but they took the boys out the class for it , like it was some shameful girls secret then at lunch the boys pinched the samples of pads the girls were given (presumably tampons were also shameful) and stuck them to peoples backs | |||
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"We were given a book in biology to look at, that was literally it. I saw the video they showed the then year 6's (6 years ago ish), clearly labelled cartoon people which morphed into actual people. I remember being a little shocked when they spoke about the clitorus. Not because I'm a prude or anything, I just thought ' is it important for an 11 year old to know that'! I think it's important for people - particularly girls - to know the correct words for their anatomy. We don't shy away from talking about knees or ankles, why do we with clitorises (hmm, what is the plural of clitoris?!) or vulvas? " also i vividly remember kids in my registration class talking about being shall we say active in the park at the weekends in my first year at secondary school and this was 23 years ago before they had access to smart phones and the entire internet and pornhub to “teach” them it doesn’t bear thinking about but it is happening, if you wait longer to educate them its too late | |||
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"Interesting reading this thread. Yes some things should be taught at school, but I think they have to be careful what can be discussed taking into account cultural and religious differences. I signed a form start of secondary giving permission for sex Ed, to date nothing has been discussed nearly at the end of year 8. He had a week of it in Yr6 which covered more than I thought it would at that age. It also needs to happen at home, shouldn’t just be the school’s responsibility to educate the children on sex Ed and the wider topic and consequences " Agree with that last paragraph. Grew up in a very sexually repressed house and would've loved talking about it being normalized. | |||
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"Interesting reading this thread. Yes some things should be taught at school, but I think they have to be careful what can be discussed taking into account cultural and religious differences. I signed a form start of secondary giving permission for sex Ed, to date nothing has been discussed nearly at the end of year 8. He had a week of it in Yr6 which covered more than I thought it would at that age. It also needs to happen at home, shouldn’t just be the school’s responsibility to educate the children on sex Ed and the wider topic and consequences " I agree it should happen at home but some have mothers like mine who wouldn't even answer me when I asked what a period was when I read it in a book or what a condom was when it was mentioned in a gardening programme as they made plant waterers out of them! | |||
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"Not read the whole thread, apologies if I duplicate. Having gone to a Roman Catholic high school, was given no sex education at all. Nor was I told anything by my mother - not even about menstruation. Thank god I've always been an avid reader - used to go to the library after school and read biology reference books. I never understood why it was acceptable for my peers to disappear for a couple of months - until they'd had their abortions - and then rejoin school. The hypocrisy! Had they been educated, they'd have been equipped to know that you CAN get pregnant the 1st time, you Can get pregnant if you do it standing up. Shocking isn't it? But friends of mine - all intelligent A level students - believed this x" Yep my mam and dad believed they couldn't get pregnant the first time. So my mam ended up getting married at 17 and I arrived not long after. And she's not stupid she has A levels. It was a failure of both the education system and my grandparents in my opinion. | |||
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"What did your sexual education classes miss that you would seem as essential information and how would you change them? " Sex Ed when I was in school was a brief part of the Biology syllabus, strictly the very basics of reproduction. Modern education around consent, relationships , contraception etc. is much better but still far from the focus it needs to have | |||
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"I actually didn't have any in my school at all. We were taught the biology of reproduction and that was essentially it. Think condoms may have been briefly mentioned in form 6 but only as a deterrent against pregnancy and AIDS, not how to use or anything useful. It's something that should be taught in schools, my parents told me nothing. Think a more rounded approach should be given not just the fundamentals of reproduction and how to use birth control. " Same experience here except no mention of contraceptives exept in RE but I did go to a Catholic school. | |||
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"Interesting reading this thread. Yes some things should be taught at school, but I think they have to be careful what can be discussed taking into account cultural and religious differences. I signed a form start of secondary giving permission for sex Ed, to date nothing has been discussed nearly at the end of year 8. He had a week of it in Yr6 which covered more than I thought it would at that age. It also needs to happen at home, shouldn’t just be the school’s responsibility to educate the children on sex Ed and the wider topic and consequences I agree it should happen at home but some have mothers like mine who wouldn't even answer me when I asked what a period was when I read it in a book or what a condom was when it was mentioned in a gardening programme as they made plant waterers out of them! " I came from a similar home and I didn’t even know what a period was when it arrived, thank god for matron. For that reason I always said I’d be open. Nothing is taboo with my lad, a question gets asked and it will get an answer appropriate for his age. If I don’t know the answer he’ll get “I’ll get back to you on that one as don’t have first hand knowledge” or “when you are older we’ll come back to that” then it’s asking a friend who does. He is aware of a lot of things and to be honest probably more than I was in my early 20s It is definitely a generation thing, my folks know my lad and I talk quite openly about everything, which they say is great and they know they didn’t as it just wasn’t done then. | |||
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"I'm wondering what some feel that they would have got from sex ed that they didn't get from experience of sexual awakening. Like, what was missing " loads like folk have said above more information about our own bodies - that vaginas don’t all look the same, what bv and thrush are , how your discharge can change throughout your cycle, that there are more options for sanitary protection than a half inch thick pad , what contraceptions options are available and how they work stds, how common they are, how condoms are not 100% effective , how they should be properly used, what different types of condoms are available and why you might want to try different options, what lube is and why people might choose to use it relationships, consent, setting healthy boundaries, red flags and what constitutes abuse, what options for support you have if you are assaulted how sex is not just for reproduction, its also for pleasure, male and female, how not all sex needs to result in an orgasm and if it takes you time to learn that then its ok , that female orgasm can be more complicated than male and just p in v isn’t always gonna be enough to do it for most, the importance of foreplay, how exploring your own body and masturbation is natural and not shameful , how experimenting with your sexuality is also natural and not shameful took me a long long long time to learn most of that - it certainly wasn’t all apparent during my sexual awakening and most of it came from google | |||
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"I'm wondering what some feel that they would have got from sex ed that they didn't get from experience of sexual awakening. Like, what was missing " Just basic anatomy would have been a start at my school, then maybe the lad who decided to slap his dick on my desk wouldn’t have got slapped with a ruler as I thought it was some escaped rodent | |||
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"I'm wondering what some feel that they would have got from sex ed that they didn't get from experience of sexual awakening. Like, what was missing Just basic anatomy would have been a start at my school, then maybe the lad who decided to slap his dick on my desk wouldn’t have got slapped with a ruler as I thought it was some escaped rodent " To be fair, it was probably the best thing you could have done | |||
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"Not read the whole thread, apologies if I duplicate. Having gone to a Roman Catholic high school, was given no sex education at all. Nor was I told anything by my mother - not even about menstruation. Thank god I've always been an avid reader - used to go to the library after school and read biology reference books. I never understood why it was acceptable for my peers to disappear for a couple of months - until they'd had their abortions - and then rejoin school. The hypocrisy! Had they been educated, they'd have been equipped to know that you CAN get pregnant the 1st time, you Can get pregnant if you do it standing up. Shocking isn't it? But friends of mine - all intelligent A level students - believed this x Yep my mam and dad believed they couldn't get pregnant the first time. So my mam ended up getting married at 17 and I arrived not long after. And she's not stupid she has A levels. It was a failure of both the education system and my grandparents in my opinion. " It was very poor. I mean, my parents had 6 bloody kids yet couldn't talk about sex. It was completely taboo. My older sister left home at 16 and went to London, so I couldn't even ask her. Thank god I didn't start my periods til I was 13 & had read up on it, otherwise I'd have been like Carrie in the film - thinking I was dying | |||
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"I'd cut all the religion and shaming girls and women (Eve tempted Adam therefore girls lead men to stray, etc). And I'd actually have some sex education. That was actually a thing?! That was my sex education Sounds vaguely familiar, along with school assemblies where we had to kneel to check our skirts were long enough. As not to distract the boys Yup. All the hoops we had to go through. For the boys. " I dont think the boys would gave minded I used to play hockey and thought the girls hockey skirts were fine | |||
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"I'm wondering what some feel that they would have got from sex ed that they didn't get from experience of sexual awakening. Like, what was missing Just basic anatomy would have been a start at my school, then maybe the lad who decided to slap his dick on my desk wouldn’t have got slapped with a ruler as I thought it was some escaped rodent To be fair, it was probably the best thing you could have done " True nobody messed with me after that, didn’t stop him though. | |||
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" took me a long long long time to learn most of that - it certainly wasn’t all apparent during my sexual awakening and most of it came from google " But isn't that like a lot of things in life? You don't start off as an expert, but pick things up as you go? | |||
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" took me a long long long time to learn most of that - it certainly wasn’t all apparent during my sexual awakening and most of it came from google But isn't that like a lot of things in life? You don't start off as an expert, but pick things up as you go? " i think there is alot of that stuff you shouldn’t have to just muddle through finding out , and lets face it the internet is not always a reliable source and teenagers are “learning” from porn its not about starting as an expert, its about having facts to keep you safe, healthy, and knowledgeable enough not to spend half your life ashamed of your own body or desires til you just happen to find out it could be otherwise | |||
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" took me a long long long time to learn most of that - it certainly wasn’t all apparent during my sexual awakening and most of it came from google But isn't that like a lot of things in life? You don't start off as an expert, but pick things up as you go? i think there is alot of that stuff you shouldn’t have to just muddle through finding out , and lets face it the internet is not always a reliable source and teenagers are “learning” from porn its not about starting as an expert, its about having facts to keep you safe, healthy, and knowledgeable enough not to spend half your life ashamed of your own body or desires til you just happen to find out it could be otherwise " | |||
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" took me a long long long time to learn most of that - it certainly wasn’t all apparent during my sexual awakening and most of it came from google But isn't that like a lot of things in life? You don't start off as an expert, but pick things up as you go? i think there is alot of that stuff you shouldn’t have to just muddle through finding out , and lets face it the internet is not always a reliable source and teenagers are “learning” from porn its not about starting as an expert, its about having facts to keep you safe, healthy, and knowledgeable enough not to spend half your life ashamed of your own body or desires til you just happen to find out it could be otherwise " I get what you're saying. But I don't think that's always an inevitable reality of some scant sex ed | |||
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" took me a long long long time to learn most of that - it certainly wasn’t all apparent during my sexual awakening and most of it came from google But isn't that like a lot of things in life? You don't start off as an expert, but pick things up as you go? i think there is alot of that stuff you shouldn’t have to just muddle through finding out , and lets face it the internet is not always a reliable source and teenagers are “learning” from porn its not about starting as an expert, its about having facts to keep you safe, healthy, and knowledgeable enough not to spend half your life ashamed of your own body or desires til you just happen to find out it could be otherwise I get what you're saying. But I don't think that's always an inevitable reality of some scant sex ed" i think thats kind of the point, it shouldn’t be some scant sex ed, it should be a well rounded comprehensive and inclusive curriculum | |||
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