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"I can 100% find someone physically attractive if I hate them... butbI couldn't be attracted by them if that makes sense " So you can acknowledge it but wouldn't act on it? Is that what you are saying? | |||
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"Despise them, possibly not although I've come close to this with an ex. I hated him but one look, one smile that I used to remember so well and I could have jumped into his arms again. Tough question OP. If they did something that was extremely serious then no. And I have no idea what a hate fuck is but it doesn't sound fun xx" I didnt look at it from an ex sort of angle. But I'm grateful you added it | |||
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"I couldn't possibly, polar opposite in fact. I might only start fancy them once I've started to know them." So no sex with a stranger? | |||
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"I've never understood what a hate fuck/angry sex is. If I dislike someone with my brain my vagene dislikes them too. If I'm angry or upset with someone I love I can't begin to feel turned on by them until the issue is sorted and in the past." There is an order of things.. | |||
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"not in the slightest. if i hate you or your personality or if you've said something vile or whatever, that's it.. Over and done with however when my partner and i argue, or ive deliberately bratted out and wound him up, the hate fucking is incredible almost like reclaim, but with anger and lust and frustration and fucking the brat out of you Px " Thanks for that Image!! | |||
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"I couldn't possibly, polar opposite in fact. I might only start fancy them once I've started to know them. So no sex with a stranger?" Not without some sort of conversation before hand. Even if they were stunning, I'd have to have some idea if what they the person were like. | |||
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"I could probably fuck them but not fancy them as I take fancy to me I'd want more than just fucking." Depends how we understand "fancy". Maybe I should have just asked - would you fuck them? | |||
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"Think semantics are getting in the way. Had sex with someone I didn’t want too, adored it physically, hated it mentally... yet so glad I did. Would never do it again, well unless.... If that’s what you are talking about, yup." They always get in my way of thinking too many word choices.. And yes I do understand the feelings around it. Giving in to physicality..insicts but thinking brain rejecting it. | |||
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"Hate is a strong word. I couldn't sleep with someone I hated, or even disliked. I could probably sleep with someone I found annoying though, if he was really hot. I'll just keep his mouth busy " It had a good ring to it. The post title. But I advised the caution. | |||
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"Think semantics are getting in the way. Had sex with someone I didn’t want too, adored it physically, hated it mentally... yet so glad I did. Would never do it again, well unless.... If that’s what you are talking about, yup." That sounds like a path to self destruction | |||
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"Think semantics are getting in the way. Had sex with someone I didn’t want too, adored it physically, hated it mentally... yet so glad I did. Would never do it again, well unless.... If that’s what you are talking about, yup. That sounds like a path to self destruction " No, just playing the edge. | |||
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"I can 100% find someone physically attractive if I hate them... butbI couldn't be attracted by them if that makes sense So you can acknowledge it but wouldn't act on it? Is that what you are saying?" I wouldnt feel an urge to act on it... I can separate thinking someone is physically beautiful without wanting to fuck them even without hating someone | |||
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"Think semantics are getting in the way. Had sex with someone I didn’t want too, adored it physically, hated it mentally... yet so glad I did. Would never do it again, well unless.... If that’s what you are talking about, yup. They always get in my way of thinking too many word choices.. And yes I do understand the feelings around it. Giving in to physicality..insicts but thinking brain rejecting it. " The power of naughty overrides the sense of right, the forbidden fruit feeling, I've felt it but not acted on it | |||
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"I could probably fuck them but not fancy them as I take fancy to me I'd want more than just fucking. Depends how we understand "fancy". Maybe I should have just asked - would you fuck them? " Yes I could fancy someone sexually/physically even if I didn't like them (it probably wouldn't go far). Conversly I could also fancy someone I liked but didn't initially physically/sexually fancy. For me personality can add or subtract from the desire for that person no matter physical qualities. | |||
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"Think semantics are getting in the way. Had sex with someone I didn’t want too, adored it physically, hated it mentally... yet so glad I did. Would never do it again, well unless.... If that’s what you are talking about, yup. They always get in my way of thinking too many word choices.. And yes I do understand the feelings around it. Giving in to physicality..insicts but thinking brain rejecting it. The power of naughty overrides the sense of right, the forbidden fruit feeling, I've felt it but not acted on it " I like how you described it. Thanks C x | |||
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"Think semantics are getting in the way. Had sex with someone I didn’t want too, adored it physically, hated it mentally... yet so glad I did. Would never do it again, well unless.... If that’s what you are talking about, yup. They always get in my way of thinking too many word choices.. And yes I do understand the feelings around it. Giving in to physicality..insicts but thinking brain rejecting it. The power of naughty overrides the sense of right, the forbidden fruit feeling, I've felt it but not acted on it " And what would happen if you did? | |||
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"Think semantics are getting in the way. Had sex with someone I didn’t want too, adored it physically, hated it mentally... yet so glad I did. Would never do it again, well unless.... If that’s what you are talking about, yup. They always get in my way of thinking too many word choices.. And yes I do understand the feelings around it. Giving in to physicality..insicts but thinking brain rejecting it. The power of naughty overrides the sense of right, the forbidden fruit feeling, I've felt it but not acted on it And what would happen if you did?" I am jumping in. Not a question for me..but.. Boundary crossing? Breaking something what was a hard "moral" Limit? Regret? | |||
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"Think semantics are getting in the way. Had sex with someone I didn’t want too, adored it physically, hated it mentally... yet so glad I did. Would never do it again, well unless.... If that’s what you are talking about, yup. They always get in my way of thinking too many word choices.. And yes I do understand the feelings around it. Giving in to physicality..insicts but thinking brain rejecting it. The power of naughty overrides the sense of right, the forbidden fruit feeling, I've felt it but not acted on it And what would happen if you did? I am jumping in. Not a question for me..but.. Boundary crossing? Breaking something what was a hard "moral" Limit? Regret? " This Personally I would end up disliking myself and doubting my self worth and I don't want to feel that type of negativity. I've imagined the scenario but the after feelings are too high a price to pay for adventure | |||
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"Think semantics are getting in the way. Had sex with someone I didn’t want too, adored it physically, hated it mentally... yet so glad I did. Would never do it again, well unless.... If that’s what you are talking about, yup. They always get in my way of thinking too many word choices.. And yes I do understand the feelings around it. Giving in to physicality..insicts but thinking brain rejecting it. The power of naughty overrides the sense of right, the forbidden fruit feeling, I've felt it but not acted on it And what would happen if you did? I am jumping in. Not a question for me..but.. Boundary crossing? Breaking something what was a hard "moral" Limit? Regret? This Personally I would end up disliking myself and doubting my self worth and I don't want to feel that type of negativity. I've imagined the scenario but the after feelings are too high a price to pay for adventure" Boundaries are cognitive construct to keep our world safe. Important where trust is an issue, especially projected trust a byproduct from the past. I spent time with a Peruvian mystic (most odd person), who pointed out there are different levels of energy in this world. The worst being domestic. He said, “you should stand in line in a post office and start exaggerated singing and dancing, people will look at you, most will feel uncomfortable and smile. Yet most will remember you, remembering isn’t an event that happens in some lives”. Pushing boundaries is not always safe, yet it can be made safe with trust. Personally, I don’t trust those that cannot. So domestic energy or free energy? Remember or just live in the murk of domesticated life. | |||
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"I could probably fuck them but not fancy them as I take fancy to me I'd want more than just fucking. Depends how we understand "fancy". Maybe I should have just asked - would you fuck them? Yes I could fancy someone sexually/physically even if I didn't like them (it probably wouldn't go far). Conversly I could also fancy someone I liked but didn't initially physically/sexually fancy. For me personality can add or subtract from the desire for that person no matter physical qualities." If you take enough time with people it might be just like in that experiment in the big bang theory.. you might feel sort of affection or in this case attraction if you are willing to spend time and listen. If you can't stand what they have to say .. yes best to come together quickly and.. leave. Don't think neither would be fully satisfying though. No? | |||
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"I once knew a very attractive girl who flirted with me but I turned her down. I would not say I hated her, but the way she spoke to people and acted/behaved, made her unattractive to me." Did she treat you right then? | |||
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"Think semantics are getting in the way. Had sex with someone I didn’t want too, adored it physically, hated it mentally... yet so glad I did. Would never do it again, well unless.... If that’s what you are talking about, yup. They always get in my way of thinking too many word choices.. And yes I do understand the feelings around it. Giving in to physicality..insicts but thinking brain rejecting it. The power of naughty overrides the sense of right, the forbidden fruit feeling, I've felt it but not acted on it And what would happen if you did? I am jumping in. Not a question for me..but.. Boundary crossing? Breaking something what was a hard "moral" Limit? Regret? This Personally I would end up disliking myself and doubting my self worth and I don't want to feel that type of negativity. I've imagined the scenario but the after feelings are too high a price to pay for adventure Boundaries are cognitive construct to keep our world safe. Important where trust is an issue, especially projected trust a byproduct from the past. I spent time with a Peruvian mystic (most odd person), who pointed out there are different levels of energy in this world. The worst being domestic. He said, “you should stand in line in a post office and start exaggerated singing and dancing, people will look at you, most will feel uncomfortable and smile. Yet most will remember you, remembering isn’t an event that happens in some lives”. Pushing boundaries is not always safe, yet it can be made safe with trust. Personally, I don’t trust those that cannot. So domestic energy or free energy? Remember or just live in the murk of domesticated life." That is a really interesting thought and yes for me it's brought from my past and my domesticated life is my hard fought safe space | |||
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"I could probably fuck them but not fancy them as I take fancy to me I'd want more than just fucking. Depends how we understand "fancy". Maybe I should have just asked - would you fuck them? Yes I could fancy someone sexually/physically even if I didn't like them (it probably wouldn't go far). Conversly I could also fancy someone I liked but didn't initially physically/sexually fancy. For me personality can add or subtract from the desire for that person no matter physical qualities. If you take enough time with people it might be just like in that experiment in the big bang theory.. you might feel sort of affection or in this case attraction if you are willing to spend time and listen. If you can't stand what they have to say .. yes best to come together quickly and.. leave. Don't think neither would be fully satisfying though. No? " Degree of sexual satisfaction for me depends on what it feels like regardless of personality/looks. If I like how they kiss or suck my cock then it'll be good on my end. If they like what I do then, hopefully, they'd enjoy it to. | |||
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"I once knew a very attractive girl who flirted with me but I turned her down. I would not say I hated her, but the way she spoke to people and acted/behaved, made her unattractive to me. Did she treat you right then? " Yes in general, but did slap me when I told her I was not interested lol. Just in general a disrespectful person, and for me thats a turn off. | |||
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"I once knew a very attractive girl who flirted with me but I turned her down. I would not say I hated her, but the way she spoke to people and acted/behaved, made her unattractive to me. Did she treat you right then? Yes in general, but did slap me when I told her I was not interested lol. Just in general a disrespectful person, and for me thats a turn off." You kind of knew it was coming based on your observations ! | |||
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"I think you can & I have. I wouldn’t be able to go near them though as their personality would disgust me which would means I’d be dry as a bone! " I believe it's possible too. Maybe that's what some people call dirty sex. Hanging between wanting to scrub off your skin but still trembling at memory. | |||
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"I have enough trouble getting a shag from people I like..... " Are you a man with one of those faces? | |||
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"I have enough trouble getting a shag from people I like..... " You nicked my Hymn sheet ?? | |||
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"I have enough trouble getting a shag from people I like..... Are you a man with one of those faces?" How did you know? | |||
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"I have enough trouble getting a shag from people I like..... Are you a man with one of those faces? How did you know? " Don't need to be that observant to notice | |||
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"I have enough trouble getting a shag from people I like..... Are you a man with one of those faces? How did you know? Don't need to be that observant to notice " I thought I hid it well | |||
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"Can you still fancy someone sexually/physically if you despise them as a person/their behaviour/personality? Or the two cannot be separated? " I can be instantly turned off by behaviour and attitude, however attracted I was initially. There's no way I could fancy a person I really disliked. | |||
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"No. I have to like someone to want to have sex with them, if I disliked them I couldn’t let them touch me. I don’t think I’m even capable of “make up sex” because a row needs to be fully resolved and forgiven before I can consider having sex with the person." Yes. Nell pointed at something similar. | |||
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"Please don't be too led by the subject line. Pondering a question based on a conversation I had. Can you still fancy someone sexually/physically if you despise them as a person/their behaviour/personality? Or the two cannot be separated? And what on Earth is a hate fuck BTW? Excuse me if i don't reply to all. " No can’t fuck someone I hate or hate their personalities. | |||
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"I've only ever despised someone based on their terrible actions and I would not let them anywhere near my life. But I've certainly been sexually attracted to people whose personality I disliked and acted on this, although that was when I was younger. Now I only want to spend time with good people who I really like. " And who like you back I hope. Always two way street | |||
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"Please don't be too led by the subject line. Pondering a question based on a conversation I had. Can you still fancy someone sexually/physically if you despise them as a person/their behaviour/personality? Or the two cannot be separated? And what on Earth is a hate fuck BTW? Excuse me if i don't reply to all. " Yes have done | |||
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"Very interesting topic Tuberose... I believe this can definitely happen and its so annoying when it does... Her picture is on your dart board but for some reason you just can't throw that dart!! " That's all I have to give. Odd thoughts I like that analogy. Thanks. | |||
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"I once knew a very attractive girl who flirted with me but I turned her down. I would not say I hated her, but the way she spoke to people and acted/behaved, made her unattractive to me." As they say, they're personality was a natural contraceptive!! | |||
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"Please don't be too led by the subject line. Pondering a question based on a conversation I had. Can you still fancy someone sexually/physically if you despise them as a person/their behaviour/personality? Or the two cannot be separated? And what on Earth is a hate fuck BTW? Excuse me if i don't reply to all. " If I despise someone or don't like their personality I wouldn't fuck them. An angry/hate fuck in my opinion is "I fancy the arse off you but I'm really pissed off with you." It's brilliant. Imagine fucking them because you REALLY want to but at the same time get to be aggressive and call them a (insert worst swear word) whilst doing so. | |||
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"It could be a power thing in certain circumstances depending on the nature of the hatred. " That gives me an idea for another thread actually. Thanks. | |||
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"Very interesting topic Tuberose... I believe this can definitely happen and its so annoying when it does... Her picture is on your dart board but for some reason you just can't throw that dart!! That's all I have to give. Odd thoughts I like that analogy. Thanks. " .. Thanks Tuberose... Very interesting thread... Oh and your new profile pic is so amazing.. Wow | |||
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"No absolutely not. I can't be attracted to arseholes no matter how good they look " This!! Her x | |||
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"I've only ever despised someone based on their terrible actions and I would not let them anywhere near my life. But I've certainly been sexually attracted to people whose personality I disliked and acted on this, although that was when I was younger. Now I only want to spend time with good people who I really like. And who like you back I hope. Always two way street " I actually prefer this one; https://youtu.be/o90GHE0r_n4 Especially the line “we (are) different people; Adam and Evil” | |||
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"I've only ever despised someone based on their terrible actions and I would not let them anywhere near my life. But I've certainly been sexually attracted to people whose personality I disliked and acted on this, although that was when I was younger. Now I only want to spend time with good people who I really like. And who like you back I hope. Always two way street I actually prefer this one; https://youtu.be/o90GHE0r_n4 Especially the line “we (are) different people; Adam and Evil” " I liked the pearls tied around like a noose..;-) and I need her collar. | |||
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"I've only ever despised someone based on their terrible actions and I would not let them anywhere near my life. But I've certainly been sexually attracted to people whose personality I disliked and acted on this, although that was when I was younger. Now I only want to spend time with good people who I really like. And who like you back I hope. Always two way street I actually prefer this one; https://youtu.be/o90GHE0r_n4 Especially the line “we (are) different people; Adam and Evil” " I quoted the wrong person. What a nugget I am today | |||
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"I've only ever despised someone based on their terrible actions and I would not let them anywhere near my life. But I've certainly been sexually attracted to people whose personality I disliked and acted on this, although that was when I was younger. Now I only want to spend time with good people who I really like. And who like you back I hope. Always two way street I actually prefer this one; https://youtu.be/o90GHE0r_n4 Especially the line “we (are) different people; Adam and Evil” I liked the pearls tied around like a noose..;-) and I need her collar. " Try Dr Watson once you know the meaning behind it (Watson Pharmaceuticals) it all makes sense | |||
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"Very interesting topic Tuberose... I believe this can definitely happen and its so annoying when it does... Her picture is on your dart board but for some reason you just can't throw that dart!! That's all I have to give. Odd thoughts I like that analogy. Thanks. .. Thanks Tuberose... Very interesting thread... Oh and your new profile pic is so amazing.. Wow " It is not new but I didn't "wear" it in a while. Spring clean of profile;-) Thank you. | |||
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"I think attraction and hate are two sides of the same coin. I am going to disagree with most of the forum and say you can have/want sex with someone you intensely dislike. I would argue it is more common than most people want to let on because often the reason you hate someone/thing is because there is an element inside it you really want but can’t admit it to yourself." I think it would be good if you elaborated on second paragraph. I'm not sure if I understood? | |||
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"I think it depends if you can dissociate looks and personality. Someone's attractive looks don't change just because the exhibit bad behaviour. We look at people as a whole package I think, so initially looks are what draws you in, but it's personality that keeps you interested. So even though they are two different things I think, you can't have one without the other. " I did wonder that. How many people actually do that? Just drawing a line and not bothering about liking each other as long as there is a desire. | |||
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"I think it depends if you can dissociate looks and personality. Someone's attractive looks don't change just because the exhibit bad behaviour. We look at people as a whole package I think, so initially looks are what draws you in, but it's personality that keeps you interested. So even though they are two different things I think, you can't have one without the other. I did wonder that. How many people actually do that? Just drawing a line and not bothering about liking each other as long as there is a desire. " If I go from some of my friends responses over the years. I know he's an idiot but he's so cute etc. So I think it depends on if it's a night of passion or a relationship they are after. | |||
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"I think it depends if you can dissociate looks and personality. Someone's attractive looks don't change just because the exhibit bad behaviour. We look at people as a whole package I think, so initially looks are what draws you in, but it's personality that keeps you interested. So even though they are two different things I think, you can't have one without the other. I did wonder that. How many people actually do that? Just drawing a line and not bothering about liking each other as long as there is a desire. If I go from some of my friends responses over the years. I know he's an idiot but he's so cute etc. So I think it depends on if it's a night of passion or a relationship they are after. " I tbink if we stick to just fab context.. probably more likely the former. | |||
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"I reread the thread and realised I missed the bottom part of the original post. Hate fucking. My understanding is its that you fuck someone like you would if you hated them. Rough hands pulling at tits and ass, hard and fast, hair pulling, no tenderness. " So it's just role-playing? | |||
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"I reread the thread and realised I missed the bottom part of the original post. Hate fucking. My understanding is its that you fuck someone like you would if you hated them. Rough hands pulling at tits and ass, hard and fast, hair pulling, no tenderness. So it's just role-playing? " That's my understanding. Or acting with genitals | |||
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"Of course I'm positive there are people who do hate the people they have sex with but that's not about sex. That's about power and control" Do you talk here about consented scenarios or sexual abuse? | |||
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"Of course I'm positive there are people who do hate the people they have sex with but that's not about sex. That's about power and control Do you talk here about consented scenarios or sexual abuse? " sexual abuse and domestic dynamics. | |||
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"Of course I'm positive there are people who do hate the people they have sex with but that's not about sex. That's about power and control Do you talk here about consented scenarios or sexual abuse? sexual abuse and domestic dynamics. " I doubt though being abused they still feel attraction? | |||
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"Of course I'm positive there are people who do hate the people they have sex with but that's not about sex. That's about power and control" I've heard of people having sex with their ex who they don't like anymore though I think that's because of lingering feelings and familiarity so it's kind of bittersweet. | |||
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"Please don't be too led by the subject line. Pondering a question based on a conversation I had. Can you still fancy someone sexually/physically if you despise them as a person/their behaviour/personality? Or the two cannot be separated? And what on Earth is a hate fuck BTW? Absolutely yes! I’ve had an ex that I actually despise as a person she’s just trash and she would make me really really angry and then fling herself at me and I would pound her as hard as I physically could and she’d love it and scream and scratch and bite and demand more etc and that is a hate fuck in my eyes...obviously there’s more to it than that and I’m summarising very briefly but basically yes. Excuse me if i don't reply to all. " | |||
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"Of course I'm positive there are people who do hate the people they have sex with but that's not about sex. That's about power and control Do you talk here about consented scenarios or sexual abuse? sexual abuse and domestic dynamics. I doubt though being abused they still feel attraction? " I met a couple here and made real world friends with them. They are in the process of breaking up for the last 5 years although I don't think they know they are. She hates or at least resents him but fucks him because she can't raise the kids on her own. He's not abusing her. He's just not able to read the room. I don't even know if he likes her all that much anymore. And sexual abuse isn't actually about sex. That's just the expression of the control and power. Even typing this makes me feel ill. But an answer needed to be given | |||
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