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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Go to Russia if you were black?

It's a genuine question.

I have a work thing.

I'm going to refuse to go - I'm scared

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is it that bad?

Goodness.

I wouldnt want to go if I was gay, thats for sure.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I'm watching something on BBC 2 now that's confirming me not to go

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Go to Russia if you were black?

It's a genuine question.

I have a work thing.

I'm going to refuse to go - I'm scared

I think you have every right to refuse if you feel threatened

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes from what I have heard it’s very friendly gets a bad name but from people that have been there not heard a bad thing

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Is it that bad?

Goodness.

I wouldnt want to go if I was gay, thats for sure."

Yes I saw something truly disgusting and disturbing about how the LBQT community are treated there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn’t go to Russia anyways.

But if any Russians read this and are offended I’m really sorry.

Keep sending the vodka.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

I'd raise your concerns with work and ask what they would do to keep you safe.

But I guess I'd ask of you'd do the same if you were asked to visit the states maybe?

I honestly don't know much about the race situation in Russia.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is it that bad?

Goodness.

I wouldnt want to go if I was gay, thats for sure."

I am of the same thought process

It is also why I won't visit a lot of Eastern Europe (outside of the tourist cities) and certainly won't visit any Islamic or African countries where homophobia is rife - and much of the Caribbean

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ve been to Russia and am black ..!!

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By *oirinMarkusCouple
over a year ago

West Midlands and West London

I'm not sure. And it depends with whom? My friend's dad is originally African and he says it's totally fine.

I think where in Russia and what the group of travellers look like will determine how you are treated x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Go to Russia if you were black?

It's a genuine question.

I have a work thing.

I'm going to refuse to go - I'm scared

If u feel scared, do not go against what your feeling,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is it that bad?

Goodness.

I wouldnt want to go if I was gay, thats for sure.

Yes I saw something truly disgusting and disturbing about how the LBQT community are treated there

I had a brief fling with Belarusian soldier (yeah, sounds like summat straight of gay porn right?

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He had to get out - it is truly atrocious for them in the Eastern Bloc

He lives happily in Hamburg now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was in Russia for 5years no problem then move to Uk country side had more problems more than Russia..!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I was in Russia for 5years no problem then move to Uk country side had more problems more than Russia..!! "

The British countryside is a hotbed of intolerance.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

First factor in where your going in russia, Moscow and St. Petersburg i dont think you would have a issue whatso ever theyre very tourist driven and very multicultural. Now if you were going to Tolyatti or Astrakhan smalleranti-Semitism and Tatarophobia is rife.

I know theres been alot of protesting out there from blm which prod the fire of racial equality as any protesting it always causes issues.

I felt very much the same as you when i went to south africa theres alot of racial tension but if your going along your own business your unlikely going to have issues.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

There's a couple of trains of thought.

1) If black people avoid the country/aren't seen, nothing will change (I know that's not a comfort!)

2) Is the trip likely to only involve "safe" venues like hotels, conference centres etc, in large groups, or would you be expected to travel on your own, around cities with few others around you?

You shouldn't be expected to place yourself at risk. You may want to look at the Home Office guidance for travel to Russia. This is from within it:

"Race

Most visitors experience no difficulties but racial discrimination may be an issue and might vary according to location. People of Asian or Afro-Caribbean descent may attract unwanted attention in public places and should take care, particularly when travelling late at night."

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By *anther81Man
over a year ago

Drogheda

A Black guy I knew married a Russian girl he went over a few times was an experience he said was fine when with her family. That was 15-20 years ago now hope would be better now.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

It's worth pointing out that males and females may have very different experiences. Women's rights in Russia aren't in the same league as ours, so there may be additional challenges being a black woman. I say may, because I don't know for sure.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

I would be reluctant to go to Russia full stop. Nevermind if I was part of a demographic more at risk.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think for a white person saying what they'd do 'if they were black' is an impossible question, we don't have an effing clue tbh.

But more generally I think if you're visiting a big Russian city in an organised professional context you will have few issues. Russia is an extraordinary country and I think you should take the opportunity to judge it for yourself.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

If it’s for work, speak to HR, line manager, travel security team for what they advise and how you will be looked after.

We always had a company member of staff collect an employee from the airport and they were escorted to/from airport, hotel, office.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I remember Reggie Yates did a documentary out there a few years ago.

Was interesting how outwardly extreme some of the views can be from some people and demonstrations he saw.

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands

"Go to Russia if you were black?

It's a genuine question.

I have a work thing.

I'm going to refuse to go - I'm scared

I wouldn't go to Russia even as a white person, backwards arse country can keep to itself

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