FabSwingers.com forum: NHS staff to get 4% pay rise.

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Well at least that's in Scotland, backdated to December 20, and of course there was the £500 bonus payment as well.

Not sure about rUK.

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By *itty9899Man
over a year ago

Craggy Island

They should all be exempt from tax for the rest of their working life's and get a pay rise.

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By *gent CoulsonMan
over a year ago

Secret hideaway in the pennines

So they should, having experience of the NHS over that last couple of months, I can't speak highly enough of them

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik

Our NHS staff deserve more than applause and 1% is not enough. @scotgov is offering a 4% pay rise, which would deliver guaranteed minimum increase of £1000 for those earning less than £25,000 & 5.4% increase for staff on lowest pay band...and all backdated to December 2020.

From Nic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m sure I’m not alone in feeling like this

I’ve worked through out and so have many many people to keep this country going but are we getting a pay rise or a bonus...no...it’s our jobs.

Millions are struggling due to job losses, surely they need help too.

Some have worked all their lives and then boooom..job loss and find themselves at food banks, frightened to put the heating on and so on..do we hear about them on the news and in the papers....no..

Rant over...

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

"They should all be exempt from tax for the rest of their working life's and get a pay rise. "

Pay rise ~ yes.

Exempt from paying tax ~ absolutely not.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I’m sure I’m not alone in feeling like this

I’ve worked through out and so have many many people to keep this country going but are we getting a pay rise or a bonus...no...it’s our jobs.

Millions are struggling due to job losses, surely they need help too.

Some have worked all their lives and then boooom..job loss and find themselves at food banks, frightened to put the heating on and so on..do we hear about them on the news and in the papers....no..

Rant over...

No you are not alone in thinking this. I think it too.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"They should all be exempt from tax for the rest of their working life's and get a pay rise. "

You really haven't thought that through.

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By *offiaCoolWoman
over a year ago

Kidsgrove

"I’m sure I’m not alone in feeling like this

I’ve worked through out and so have many many people to keep this country going but are we getting a pay rise or a bonus...no...it’s our jobs.

Millions are struggling due to job losses, surely they need help too.

Some have worked all their lives and then boooom..job loss and find themselves at food banks, frightened to put the heating on and so on..do we hear about them on the news and in the papers....no..

Rant over...

They did work in extraordinarily difficult conditions. All gowned up, sweating, unable to access fluid because of the gown/mask/visor/gloves. Trying to keep patient after patient alive while they gasped for breath, long punishing shifts etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Our NHS staff deserve more than applause and 1% is not enough. @scotgov is offering a 4% pay rise, which would deliver guaranteed minimum increase of £1000 for those earning less than £25,000 & 5.4% increase for staff on lowest pay band...and all backdated to December 2020.

From Nic

Much deserved I have to say but the synic in me says election looming.

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik

From Nic

Much deserved I have to say but the synic in me says election looming.

Probably why Johnson gave the equivalent southern health board 1% as he’s 4 years left

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By *orkiebar51Man
over a year ago

Keighley

Sturgeon always makes Johnson look a plonker - although hardly a difficult task

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
over a year ago

BRIDPORT

"I’m sure I’m not alone in feeling like this

I’ve worked through out and so have many many people to keep this country going but are we getting a pay rise or a bonus...no...it’s our jobs.

Millions are struggling due to job losses, surely they need help too.

Some have worked all their lives and then boooom..job loss and find themselves at food banks, frightened to put the heating on and so on..do we hear about them on the news and in the papers....no..

Rant over...

If you want to know what working in extraordinarily different conditions is like you are welcome to join me for a 16 hour shift in the corn dryer in mid august,

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

4% minimum will barely allow them to keep pace with inflation, with lower paid employees struggling the most from it Pay neess to catch up in real terms from stalling over 10+ years.

It's great that Scotland has recognised the need for this level this year

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
over a year ago

BRIDPORT

**difficult

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"I’m sure I’m not alone in feeling like this

I’ve worked through out and so have many many people to keep this country going but are we getting a pay rise or a bonus...no...it’s our jobs.

Millions are struggling due to job losses, surely they need help too.

Some have worked all their lives and then boooom..job loss and find themselves at food banks, frightened to put the heating on and so on..do we hear about them on the news and in the papers....no..

Rant over...

If you want to know what working in extraordinarily different conditions is like you are welcome to join me for a 16 hour shift in the corn dryer in mid august, "

It's sad that there's that comparison with the corn dryer, as few of us have our hearts and minds anything like trying to keep so many people alive, through their devastation, with the pain of losing so many of them.

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik

"4% minimum will barely allow them to keep pace with inflation, with lower paid employees struggling the most from it Pay neess to catch up in real terms from stalling over 10+ years.

It's great that Scotland has recognised the need for this level this year

It’s on top of a 9% over 3 years that’s just expired as well

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands

"I’m sure I’m not alone in feeling like this

I’ve worked through out and so have many many people to keep this country going but are we getting a pay rise or a bonus...no...it’s our jobs.

Millions are struggling due to job losses, surely they need help too.

Some have worked all their lives and then boooom..job loss and find themselves at food banks, frightened to put the heating on and so on..do we hear about them on the news and in the papers....no..

Rant over...

'I dont get it so why should they' attitude is not a good look. Ive also mostly worked throughout all the lockdowns but I'm a tradesman. If I had to work horrifically long hours, covered head to toe in protective gear whilst risking my life to save others then I sure as shit would want a pay rise too.

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
over a year ago

BRIDPORT

"I’m sure I’m not alone in feeling like this

I’ve worked through out and so have many many people to keep this country going but are we getting a pay rise or a bonus...no...it’s our jobs.

Millions are struggling due to job losses, surely they need help too.

Some have worked all their lives and then boooom..job loss and find themselves at food banks, frightened to put the heating on and so on..do we hear about them on the news and in the papers....no..

Rant over...

If you want to know what working in extraordinarily different conditions is like you are welcome to join me for a 16 hour shift in the corn dryer in mid august,

The comparison merely serves to show that lots of people have to put up with pretty horrendous working conditions during the course of doing the job they signed up too.

If caring for dying patients isn’t your thing maybe a front line NHS job isn’t for you.

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By *DW1983Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen, Leeds, Sheffield

To an extent, I agree. On the one hand I'd love to see people such as NHS staff and other key workers (who we've suddenly realised are there and do a valuable job) get a pay rise, so long as it can be done affordably and sustainably. I'd like a pay rise. We all would, I'm sure.

On the other, until a couple of years ago I spent most of my working life as a bus driver, a job I very much enjoyed. Like many other professions they became "key workers" and got clapped for going to work and doing their jobs. Had I still been in the driving seat now, I'd be embarrassed and mortified to be clapped at for doing the job I signed up for. I did it day in, day out. Good days and bad. Because it was my job, because it's what I signed up for. It's what I was there for. To get people from A to B. Not just on the good days. And there were plenty of bad ones. A good number of former colleagues feel the same.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I was asked if I’d pay a pound or so a week on my tax but it would go just to the NHS d say yes and I think a lot of people would

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone that works for NHS, be it cleaners, carers, doctors and nurses deserve alot more recognition and respect for what they do, they're the backbone of Britain and each and every one has sacrificed so much to help others.

They have hearts of gold, they do unimaginable jobs that I could never think of doing I'd break down as I wouldnt be able to stomach what they have been through ...

They recently as of 2021 cured my dad of an aggressive bowel cancer and helped him back into good health, they picked it up quickly and within 4 months were able to cure him and I cant thank them enough....

Anyone that works for NHS and is reading this ... Thank you!

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By *ob rodMan
over a year ago

lancaster

Got a few friends who work for nhs in a nursing capacity no doctors

all but 1 earn well over 36k at least work 12 hr shifts but get 4 days a week off

They are embarrassed at hero worship don’t want endless discounts or free food and que jumping

Like everyone the would like a pay rise but with pension above average holiday allowance job security the don’t feel particularly hard done by

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That is actually a good news. Fair play for doing that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tick toc dances dont come cheap

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Anyone that works for NHS, be it cleaners, carers, doctors and nurses deserve alot more recognition and respect for what they do, they're the backbone of Britain and each and every one has sacrificed so much to help others.

They have hearts of gold, they do unimaginable jobs that I could never think of doing I'd break down as I wouldnt be able to stomach what they have been through ...

Anyone that works for NHS and is reading this ... Thank you! "

Thank you very much

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish

"Well at least that's in Scotland, backdated to December 20, and of course there was the £500 bonus payment as well.

Not sure about rUK."

Still waiting on my £500 bonus and so too are my colleagues. Plus it is getting taxed so will not be £500.

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By *xpressionistMan
over a year ago

ST. ALBANS

"I’m sure I’m not alone in feeling like this

I’ve worked through out and so have many many people to keep this country going but are we getting a pay rise or a bonus...no...it’s our jobs.

Millions are struggling due to job losses, surely they need help too.

Some have worked all their lives and then boooom..job loss and find themselves at food banks, frightened to put the heating on and so on..do we hear about them on the news and in the papers....no..

Rant over...

Exactly my thoughts. I had a forced pay cut instead, the same day the rent and council tax went up!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wonderful to hear. Anyone getting a payrise and just having a job in these times can be super grateful. Thank you to everyone who keeps our country running everyday and looking after those people needing help xxx

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By *ssexSwitchMan
over a year ago

hornchurch

"Sturgeon always makes Johnson look a plonker - although hardly a difficult task

You also have to consider the largest employer in Scotland is the nhs. There is an election in 2 months snd SNP need votes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Politics is an ugly business, I gave 4% vote me.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

"I’m sure I’m not alone in feeling like this

I’ve worked through out and so have many many people to keep this country going but are we getting a pay rise or a bonus...no...it’s our jobs.

Millions are struggling due to job losses, surely they need help too.

Some have worked all their lives and then boooom..job loss and find themselves at food banks, frightened to put the heating on and so on..do we hear about them on the news and in the papers....no..

Rant over...

It isn't really a payrise though. NHS staff have had their pay frozen for years with no cost of living increases (when pay is adjusted in line with inflation to keep you effectively earning the same) so as much as I support the 4% increase in Scotland, this still doesn't even catch them up in this regard.

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land

I feel maybe we should wait and backdate if needs be. We still don't fully know the financial implications of the pandemic. People have lost their jobs, struggling to pay for food, may loose their homes etc. I'd rather wait assess and see everyone that needs it is cared for.

This does appear as a popularity thing, with the upcoming elections soon.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The whole bonus thing is a joke in my opinion, a bonus scheme for working at the NHS. The occupation comes with risk and care of duty! just look at the retired staff who returned to work during this pandemic! True hero’s.

People these days just want hand outs and use the NHS name to push their own agendas.

I work for the NHS, but I am not frontline. Therefore I don’t deserve applauding, I don’t deserve bonuses, I don’t deserve all these discounts.

This should not be about NHS staff but the frontline workers only. Otherwise how can you justify this argument for NHS staff, working from the safety of their homes while teachers, shop workers, public transport staff etc etc get zero special treatment or recognition for doing their jobs which are way more risky but don’t hold the NHS tag.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’m sure I’m not alone in feeling like this

I’ve worked through out and so have many many people to keep this country going but are we getting a pay rise or a bonus...no...it’s our jobs.

Millions are struggling due to job losses, surely they need help too.

Some have worked all their lives and then boooom..job loss and find themselves at food banks, frightened to put the heating on and so on..do we hear about them on the news and in the papers....no..

Rant over...

Nope. Totally agree.

The NHS workers have been amazing! And of course they deserve praise and a pay rise aswell as a fuck tonne of respect and a appreciation.

So does everyone else that's been considered a front line/key worker. From cleaners to cashiers and all that's inbetween.

It's taken more than the NHS to get us through.

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By *uliaChrisCouple
over a year ago

westerham

Very generous action by Scotland......

Very generous with other people's money.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’m sure I’m not alone in feeling like this

I’ve worked through out and so have many many people to keep this country going but are we getting a pay rise or a bonus...no...it’s our jobs.

Millions are struggling due to job losses, surely they need help too.

Some have worked all their lives and then boooom..job loss and find themselves at food banks, frightened to put the heating on and so on..do we hear about them on the news and in the papers....no..

Rant over...

This is also spot on

NHS workers should be paid a lot more. That was the case before the rona tho.

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik

"Politics is an ugly business, I gave 4% vote me.

Use your vote to show your displeasure at the SNHS being given a fair reward.

Oh wait....

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By *offiaCoolWoman
over a year ago

Kidsgrove

"Politics is an ugly business, I gave 4% vote me.

Use your vote to show your displeasure at the SNHS being given a fair reward.

Oh wait....

Forum's are great filters

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik

"Politics is an ugly business, I gave 4% vote me.

Use your vote to show your displeasure at the SNHS being given a fair reward.

Oh wait....

Forum's are great filters

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So the average wage in the United Kingdom is c£28,000 with some regional variations. The average nurse gets paid £33,000. These figures were reported in The Times and are verifiable. The public sector pension is also still favourable to those in the private sector. On the face of it this isn’t a bad deal.

Lots of people worked hard in different ways during the pandemic, whether its care home staff, police, prison officers, bus drivers, farmers, working with homeless people etc. Even your man in his corn dryer with a sweat on is helping keep someone fed and healthy ultimately. Some of these industries never get recognition. If you think about Christmas there is often thanks for firemen, nurses and police officers- no one thinks of the prison officers who provide a 24/7 service 365 days a year and see some pretty disturbing things.

This is a difficult issue with the NHS as what price do you place on making someone better, saving someone’s life or making somebody who is dying comfortable and dignified. For me you can’t put a money value on this and do nothing will ever seem right. That being said I’ve always thought that working in medicine was a vocation that went beyond money to something else. I’d support a 4% pay rise as I think it’s been exceptional this last year, and so long as wages keep up with inflation that’s probably fair.

Overall we just need to be better at recognising the contributions people make.

Ultimately everyone should pay tax (except very low incomes) because we all take out of the system at some point in some way and it’s part of our social contract.

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