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Fucking a tv/ts make u gay/bi?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

If someone fucks a tv/ts would you say they are bi or gay ?

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By *ablo minibar123Woman
over a year ago

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If a male fucks a TV I'd say that they are at least bi curious.

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By *ulgehunterMan
over a year ago

yorkshire

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By *ulgehunterMan
over a year ago

yorkshire

Depends on the channel

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you even look at my profile you will become full homo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well that al depends if you also like woman that would make you bi

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have a gay friend on here who sleeps with a FTM so does that make him straight??? haha does it bother you that much to know personally live and let live can’t label everything

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you even look at my profile you will become full homo "

I think he looked

He's learning show tunes as we speak

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Hahah I did look tbh lmao

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you even look at my profile you will become full homo

I think he looked

He's learning show tunes as we speak "

I looked too

Now sat here in a feather headdress and a rara skirt

Now there's an image for ya

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you even look at my profile you will become full homo

I think he looked

He's learning show tunes as we speak

I looked too

Now sat here in a feather headdress and a rara skirt

Now there's an image for ya "

I had a rara skirt back in the day - and I'm not even sorry

But the feather headdress is a bit if an overkill

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you even look at my profile you will become full homo

I think he looked

He's learning show tunes as we speak

I looked too

Now sat here in a feather headdress and a rara skirt

Now there's an image for ya "

Oh man you went not just full homo , you went full tranny mode as well

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you even look at my profile you will become full homo

I think he looked

He's learning show tunes as we speak "

They soon learn to multi task after looking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are you asking for a friend?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hahah I did look tbh lmao "

Welcome to the pink club . Your pounds in your bank will now be replaced with pink pounds by Monday .

Plus you will now find all your underwear will now have been replaced with jockstraps

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Haha I’ll be down to Swindon ASAP

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you even look at my profile you will become full homo "

I looked

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By *heDesiCandiTV/TS
over a year ago

Leicester


"If you even look at my profile you will become full homo "

I mean you are just wow!

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By *reatformeatWoman
over a year ago

my own bubble

Definitely bi sexual some kid themselves that because it’s a tv they are not bi . Sorry but the definition is definitely bi sexual but who needs a label? Be what you want call yourself whatever you want

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why does anyone care and why are some people so keen to label other people?

Btw I look at Libby’s profile all the time cos she’s lush xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Full on Alice in wonderland gay might as well ring Elton John up and ask him to organise a gangbang with you and the pet shop boys

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By *reatformeatWoman
over a year ago

my own bubble


"Full on Alice in wonderland gay might as well ring Elton John up and ask him to organise a gangbang with you and the pet shop boys "

Very sensible

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If someone fucks a tv/ts would you say they are bi or gay ?"

Well at least broke back mountain curious?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why does anyone care and why are some people so keen to label other people?

Btw I look at Libby’s profile all the time cos she’s lush xx"

I like labels- would you eat a tin of food without a label?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why does anyone care and why are some people so keen to label other people?

Btw I look at Libby’s profile all the time cos she’s lush xx

I like labels- would you eat a tin of food without a label?

"

I never eat from a tin.........

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By *reatformeatWoman
over a year ago

my own bubble


"Why does anyone care and why are some people so keen to label other people?

Btw I look at Libby’s profile all the time cos she’s lush xx

I like labels- would you eat a tin of food without a label?

"

No but I would open it to see what was inside first

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If someone fucks a tv/ts would you say they are bi or gay ?"

Happy, hopefully they are happy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why does anyone care and why are some people so keen to label other people?

Btw I look at Libby’s profile all the time cos she’s lush xx

I like labels- would you eat a tin of food without a label?

I never eat from a tin........."

Yeah that's actually gross

Would you suck a cock though

And would you be straight if you did if the cock was trans?

That's what the OP wants to know

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By *9alMan
over a year ago

Bridgend

I am bi enjoy sex with anybody but find more TV/ men are available for sex fun

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster


"If you even look at my profile you will become full homo

I think he looked

He's learning show tunes as we speak "
some of us tranny's are brill lip syncing to this is me !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you even look at my profile you will become full homo "

I’ve looked at your profile and I’m in the journey.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If someone fucks a tv/ts would you say they are bi or gay ?"

Most guys who I fuck say it's because I "look like a woman" meaning they fancy women but still end up reaching. Take from that what you will but personally I don't like labels, If you like it enjoy it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Shag who you fancy. Who cares about the labels?"

Totally agree. No labels here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why does anyone care and why are some people so keen to label other people?

Btw I look at Libby’s profile all the time cos she’s lush xx

I like labels- would you eat a tin of food without a label?

"

If it looks and smells appetising, give it a try

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

Serious answer;

In all honesty, as an outside perspective I’d say bi but it’s very much a difficult area regarding orientation and gender.

Self identification is a very important part of any sexuality and there are rarely cover all definitions of what someone is or isn’t.

Labels are important as they allow groups to find each other and grow support networks, those that say ‘I don’t believe in labels’ are either lying to themselves or others.

A trans woman is a woman, as they are recognised as they identify. Sexual organs are seen as being a separate matter, if a person doesn’t enjoy a penis as part of sex, then that might be a deal breaker (however not always). Again, this might be challenged on an individual basis according to how the person feels or identifies.

If a person identifies as straight but sleeps with a trans woman, that’s their prerogative. Whilst there might be some internalised repression going on, that’s not for us to say.

Much as folks on here are intolerant and trans/bi phobic, a little thought and personal empathy goes a long way. Ultimately there’s no one answer to this and making snide remarks just forces others to be even more repressed. Let people identify as they want and enjoy what they want to do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Serious answer;

In all honesty, as an outside perspective I’d say bi but it’s very much a difficult area regarding orientation and gender.

Self identification is a very important part of any sexuality and there are rarely cover all definitions of what someone is or isn’t.

Labels are important as they allow groups to find each other and grow support networks, those that say ‘I don’t believe in labels’ are either lying to themselves or others.

A trans woman is a woman, as they are recognised as they identify. Sexual organs are seen as being a separate matter, if a person doesn’t enjoy a penis as part of sex, then that might be a deal breaker (however not always). Again, this might be challenged on an individual basis according to how the person feels or identifies.

If a person identifies as straight but sleeps with a trans woman, that’s their prerogative. Whilst there might be some internalised repression going on, that’s not for us to say.

Much as folks on here are intolerant and trans/bi phobic, a little thought and personal empathy goes a long way. Ultimately there’s no one answer to this and making snide remarks just forces others to be even more repressed. Let people identify as they want and enjoy what they want to do"

I'm not lying to myself or others, If you both like it do it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why does anyone care and why are some people so keen to label other people?

Btw I look at Libby’s profile all the time cos she’s lush xx

I like labels- would you eat a tin of food without a label?

No but I would open it to see what was inside first "

What if i forgot my tin opener

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By *harisajidanWoman
over a year ago

london


"Serious answer;

In all honesty, as an outside perspective I’d say bi but it’s very much a difficult area regarding orientation and gender.

Self identification is a very important part of any sexuality and there are rarely cover all definitions of what someone is or isn’t.

Labels are important as they allow groups to find each other and grow support networks, those that say ‘I don’t believe in labels’ are either lying to themselves or others.

A trans woman is a woman, as they are recognised as they identify. Sexual organs are seen as being a separate matter, if a person doesn’t enjoy a penis as part of sex, then that might be a deal breaker (however not always). Again, this might be challenged on an individual basis according to how the person feels or identifies.

If a person identifies as straight but sleeps with a trans woman, that’s their prerogative. Whilst there might be some internalised repression going on, that’s not for us to say.

Much as folks on here are intolerant and trans/bi phobic, a little thought and personal empathy goes a long way. Ultimately there’s no one answer to this and making snide remarks just forces others to be even more repressed. Let people identify as they want and enjoy what they want to do"

“Let people identify how they want”—eh, yes that sounds good in theory.. but at what point are people being illogical or delusional about something?

If I am mostly sexually attracted and sexually active with the same sex, but still insist on identifying and calling myself straight...there’s some cognitive dissonance going on. I see it all the time on here.

Identifying a behavior by what it is, is not repressive— hence why I hate peoples argument about labels being useless or disliking them. Labels, as clunky as they can be, can sometimes bring awareness and pride.

Labels are not the issue. The issue is people’s biases and phobias towards those labels. The other issue is people wanting to stick with one label (e.g. straight) at all costs over other labels (e.g. bisexual or other) despite their proven sexual activity/attraction because of the privilege afforded to one.

One of the only way it improves is by casting off that privilege label of straight (when one isn’t) and rightfully claiming your accurate sexual identity... hence why there was an LGBT movement fighting exactly for that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In a more serious answer of sorts.

I have had sexual partners male and female both ask the questions. What does this make me ...

When it comes to sex and fantasies and them trying to justify in their head at the time , I have generally replied to them with “what would you like me to be?”

It’s on them not me how they see themselves after the event , I am just here for a good time and experience.

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By *harisajidanWoman
over a year ago

london


"In a more serious answer of sorts.

I have had sexual partners male and female both ask the questions. What does this make me ...

When it comes to sex and fantasies and them trying to justify in their head at the time , I have generally replied to them with “what would you like me to be?”

It’s on them not me how they see themselves after the event , I am just here for a good time and experience.

"

I think the root of people asking that is because ultimately they fear some societal reckoning or backlash for anything not neatly lined up as “straight”— when the real TEA is that most people operate on a spectrum of queerness. And the sooner everyone and society recognizes this, the better off we’ll be; and folks will stop clinging to the “straight label”.

Or rather, they should learn more terms to maybe describe themselves.. such as fluid or heteromantic, or biromantic, skoliosexual, etc etc — if they are really struggling with language to describe their tastes

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)


"Serious answer;

In all honesty, as an outside perspective I’d say bi but it’s very much a difficult area regarding orientation and gender.

Self identification is a very important part of any sexuality and there are rarely cover all definitions of what someone is or isn’t.

Labels are important as they allow groups to find each other and grow support networks, those that say ‘I don’t believe in labels’ are either lying to themselves or others.

A trans woman is a woman, as they are recognised as they identify. Sexual organs are seen as being a separate matter, if a person doesn’t enjoy a penis as part of sex, then that might be a deal breaker (however not always). Again, this might be challenged on an individual basis according to how the person feels or identifies.

If a person identifies as straight but sleeps with a trans woman, that’s their prerogative. Whilst there might be some internalised repression going on, that’s not for us to say.

Much as folks on here are intolerant and trans/bi phobic, a little thought and personal empathy goes a long way. Ultimately there’s no one answer to this and making snide remarks just forces others to be even more repressed. Let people identify as they want and enjoy what they want to do

“Let people identify how they want”—eh, yes that sounds good in theory.. but at what point are people being illogical or delusional about something?

If I am mostly sexually attracted and sexually active with the same sex, but still insist on identifying and calling myself straight...there’s some cognitive dissonance going on. I see it all the time on here.

Identifying a behavior by what it is, is not repressive— hence why I hate peoples argument about labels being useless or disliking them. Labels, as clunky as they can be, can sometimes bring awareness and pride.

Labels are not the issue. The issue is people’s biases and phobias towards those labels. The other issue is people wanting to stick with one label (e.g. straight) at all costs over other labels (e.g. bisexual or other) despite their proven sexual activity/attraction because of the privilege afforded to one.

One of the only way it improves is by casting off that privilege label of straight (when one isn’t) and rightfully claiming your accurate sexual identity... hence why there was an LGBT movement fighting exactly for that.

"

I agree with you on everything that you’ve written. It’s a very complex issue and books have been written without clarifying it, so a few paragraphs can’t even begin to cover it

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By *orny saintMan
over a year ago

Eastleigh

Gay

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By *ex HolesMan
over a year ago

Up North

Only if there’s eye contact are you ghay

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Serious answer;

In all honesty, as an outside perspective I’d say bi but it’s very much a difficult area regarding orientation and gender.

Self identification is a very important part of any sexuality and there are rarely cover all definitions of what someone is or isn’t.

Labels are important as they allow groups to find each other and grow support networks, those that say ‘I don’t believe in labels’ are either lying to themselves or others.

A trans woman is a woman, as they are recognised as they identify. Sexual organs are seen as being a separate matter, if a person doesn’t enjoy a penis as part of sex, then that might be a deal breaker (however not always). Again, this might be challenged on an individual basis according to how the person feels or identifies.

If a person identifies as straight but sleeps with a trans woman, that’s their prerogative. Whilst there might be some internalised repression going on, that’s not for us to say.

Much as folks on here are intolerant and trans/bi phobic, a little thought and personal empathy goes a long way. Ultimately there’s no one answer to this and making snide remarks just forces others to be even more repressed. Let people identify as they want and enjoy what they want to do

“Let people identify how they want”—eh, yes that sounds good in theory.. but at what point are people being illogical or delusional about something?

If I am mostly sexually attracted and sexually active with the same sex, but still insist on identifying and calling myself straight...there’s some cognitive dissonance going on. I see it all the time on here.

Identifying a behavior by what it is, is not repressive— hence why I hate peoples argument about labels being useless or disliking them. Labels, as clunky as they can be, can sometimes bring awareness and pride.

Labels are not the issue. The issue is people’s biases and phobias towards those labels. The other issue is people wanting to stick with one label (e.g. straight) at all costs over other labels (e.g. bisexual or other) despite their proven sexual activity/attraction because of the privilege afforded to one.

One of the only way it improves is by casting off that privilege label of straight (when one isn’t) and rightfully claiming your accurate sexual identity... hence why there was an LGBT movement fighting exactly for that.

I agree with you on everything that you’ve written. It’s a very complex issue and books have been written without clarifying it, so a few paragraphs can’t even begin to cover it"

I don't think it's complicated at all.

Denial is denial.

A man who chooses to dress as a woman is still a man.

And anyone who engages with someone of the same sex is not straight.

The only complicated thing about it is people that want to deny their sexuality.

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)


"In a more serious answer of sorts.

I have had sexual partners male and female both ask the questions. What does this make me ...

When it comes to sex and fantasies and them trying to justify in their head at the time , I have generally replied to them with “what would you like me to be?”

It’s on them not me how they see themselves after the event , I am just here for a good time and experience.

I think the root of people asking that is because ultimately they fear some societal reckoning or backlash for anything not neatly lined up as “straight”— when the real TEA is that most people operate on a spectrum of queerness. And the sooner everyone and society recognizes this, the better off we’ll be; and folks will stop clinging to the “straight label”.

Or rather, they should learn more terms to maybe describe themselves.. such as fluid or heteromantic, or biromantic, skoliosexual, etc etc — if they are really struggling with language to describe their tastes "

I agree. The stigma and phobic attitudes prevalent around *gestures broadly* don’t help in any of these situations

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By *manaWoman
over a year ago

Basingstoke

I think it's definitely complicated.

By saying if someone wants to sleep with the opposite sex is at least bi-curious you're not taking into account pre surgery trans for instance.

That IMO is very judgemental.

I'd say sleep with who you want and allow others the same right.

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)


"Serious answer;

In all honesty, as an outside perspective I’d say bi but it’s very much a difficult area regarding orientation and gender.

Self identification is a very important part of any sexuality and there are rarely cover all definitions of what someone is or isn’t.

Labels are important as they allow groups to find each other and grow support networks, those that say ‘I don’t believe in labels’ are either lying to themselves or others.

A trans woman is a woman, as they are recognised as they identify. Sexual organs are seen as being a separate matter, if a person doesn’t enjoy a penis as part of sex, then that might be a deal breaker (however not always). Again, this might be challenged on an individual basis according to how the person feels or identifies.

If a person identifies as straight but sleeps with a trans woman, that’s their prerogative. Whilst there might be some internalised repression going on, that’s not for us to say.

Much as folks on here are intolerant and trans/bi phobic, a little thought and personal empathy goes a long way. Ultimately there’s no one answer to this and making snide remarks just forces others to be even more repressed. Let people identify as they want and enjoy what they want to do

“Let people identify how they want”—eh, yes that sounds good in theory.. but at what point are people being illogical or delusional about something?

If I am mostly sexually attracted and sexually active with the same sex, but still insist on identifying and calling myself straight...there’s some cognitive dissonance going on. I see it all the time on here.

Identifying a behavior by what it is, is not repressive— hence why I hate peoples argument about labels being useless or disliking them. Labels, as clunky as they can be, can sometimes bring awareness and pride.

Labels are not the issue. The issue is people’s biases and phobias towards those labels. The other issue is people wanting to stick with one label (e.g. straight) at all costs over other labels (e.g. bisexual or other) despite their proven sexual activity/attraction because of the privilege afforded to one.

One of the only way it improves is by casting off that privilege label of straight (when one isn’t) and rightfully claiming your accurate sexual identity... hence why there was an LGBT movement fighting exactly for that.

I agree with you on everything that you’ve written. It’s a very complex issue and books have been written without clarifying it, so a few paragraphs can’t even begin to cover it

I don't think it's complicated at all.

Denial is denial.

A man who chooses to dress as a woman is still a man.

And anyone who engages with someone of the same sex is not straight.

The only complicated thing about it is people that want to deny their sexuality.

"

I’m not going to argue with you about your attitudes and your opinions. I’m just going to recommend that you do some research about this and try to have some empathy about how others feel and what they believe about their own bodies.

The belief that opinions about what someone is or isn’t, are actually relevant to someone about their own body, gender or sexuality, is frankly ludicrous.

We don’t get to sit in judgement of other people’s bodies or tell them how they feel, nor have such a narrow myopic view of gender and sexuality that it causes hurt to them. If you don’t understand or are ignorant, then education is the key

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By *hil153Man
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"If someone fucks a tv/ts would you say they are bi or gay ?"

Ive met lots of sexy .. u are who u are .. id say im pansexual ..ie find lots of things sexy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Serious answer;

In all honesty, as an outside perspective I’d say bi but it’s very much a difficult area regarding orientation and gender.

Self identification is a very important part of any sexuality and there are rarely cover all definitions of what someone is or isn’t.

Labels are important as they allow groups to find each other and grow support networks, those that say ‘I don’t believe in labels’ are either lying to themselves or others.

A trans woman is a woman, as they are recognised as they identify. Sexual organs are seen as being a separate matter, if a person doesn’t enjoy a penis as part of sex, then that might be a deal breaker (however not always). Again, this might be challenged on an individual basis according to how the person feels or identifies.

If a person identifies as straight but sleeps with a trans woman, that’s their prerogative. Whilst there might be some internalised repression going on, that’s not for us to say.

Much as folks on here are intolerant and trans/bi phobic, a little thought and personal empathy goes a long way. Ultimately there’s no one answer to this and making snide remarks just forces others to be even more repressed. Let people identify as they want and enjoy what they want to do

“Let people identify how they want”—eh, yes that sounds good in theory.. but at what point are people being illogical or delusional about something?

If I am mostly sexually attracted and sexually active with the same sex, but still insist on identifying and calling myself straight...there’s some cognitive dissonance going on. I see it all the time on here.

Identifying a behavior by what it is, is not repressive— hence why I hate peoples argument about labels being useless or disliking them. Labels, as clunky as they can be, can sometimes bring awareness and pride.

Labels are not the issue. The issue is people’s biases and phobias towards those labels. The other issue is people wanting to stick with one label (e.g. straight) at all costs over other labels (e.g. bisexual or other) despite their proven sexual activity/attraction because of the privilege afforded to one.

One of the only way it improves is by casting off that privilege label of straight (when one isn’t) and rightfully claiming your accurate sexual identity... hence why there was an LGBT movement fighting exactly for that.

I agree with you on everything that you’ve written. It’s a very complex issue and books have been written without clarifying it, so a few paragraphs can’t even begin to cover it

I don't think it's complicated at all.

Denial is denial.

A man who chooses to dress as a woman is still a man.

And anyone who engages with someone of the same sex is not straight.

The only complicated thing about it is people that want to deny their sexuality.

I’m not going to argue with you about your attitudes and your opinions. I’m just going to recommend that you do some research about this and try to have some empathy about how others feel and what they believe about their own bodies.

The belief that opinions about what someone is or isn’t, are actually relevant to someone about their own body, gender or sexuality, is frankly ludicrous.

We don’t get to sit in judgement of other people’s bodies or tell them how they feel, nor have such a narrow myopic view of gender and sexuality that it causes hurt to them. If you don’t understand or are ignorant, then education is the key"

OK Bro

Name calling is against the rules.

No one other than you called anyone uneducated and judgemental.

It was a pleasant light thread until these comments were made.

It seems to be a theme.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bi 100%.

However.. its just a label, who cares about labels

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Bi 100%.

However.. its just a label, who cares about labels "

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

No. What makes a person bi or gay is their own self-pperceived understanding of which gender they find attractive.

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By *atietvsheffTV/TS
over a year ago

Sheffield


"Serious answer;

In all honesty, as an outside perspective I’d say bi but it’s very much a difficult area regarding orientation and gender.

Self identification is a very important part of any sexuality and there are rarely cover all definitions of what someone is or isn’t.

Labels are important as they allow groups to find each other and grow support networks, those that say ‘I don’t believe in labels’ are either lying to themselves or others.

A trans woman is a woman, as they are recognised as they identify. Sexual organs are seen as being a separate matter, if a person doesn’t enjoy a penis as part of sex, then that might be a deal breaker (however not always). Again, this might be challenged on an individual basis according to how the person feels or identifies.

If a person identifies as straight but sleeps with a trans woman, that’s their prerogative. Whilst there might be some internalised repression going on, that’s not for us to say.

Much as folks on here are intolerant and trans/bi phobic, a little thought and personal empathy goes a long way. Ultimately there’s no one answer to this and making snide remarks just forces others to be even more repressed. Let people identify as they want and enjoy what they want to do

“Let people identify how they want”—eh, yes that sounds good in theory.. but at what point are people being illogical or delusional about something?

If I am mostly sexually attracted and sexually active with the same sex, but still insist on identifying and calling myself straight...there’s some cognitive dissonance going on. I see it all the time on here.

Identifying a behavior by what it is, is not repressive— hence why I hate peoples argument about labels being useless or disliking them. Labels, as clunky as they can be, can sometimes bring awareness and pride.

Labels are not the issue. The issue is people’s biases and phobias towards those labels. The other issue is people wanting to stick with one label (e.g. straight) at all costs over other labels (e.g. bisexual or other) despite their proven sexual activity/attraction because of the privilege afforded to one.

One of the only way it improves is by casting off that privilege label of straight (when one isn’t) and rightfully claiming your accurate sexual identity... hence why there was an LGBT movement fighting exactly for that.

I agree with you on everything that you’ve written. It’s a very complex issue and books have been written without clarifying it, so a few paragraphs can’t even begin to cover it

I don't think it's complicated at all.

Denial is denial.

A man who chooses to dress as a woman is still a man.

And anyone who engages with someone of the same sex is not straight.

The only complicated thing about it is people that want to deny their sexuality.

"

99% of the guys who approach Katie and I must add it’s always men who approach as katie she does not ever make the 1st contact, 99% of men who approach for meets are straight and married, their wives have stopped wearing lingerie, won’t wear stockings and high heels, won’t swallow and don’t do anal. Men love the feminine image and the sexiness of the soft lingerie and the heels with stockings, I’m under no illusion that Katie is seen as a real woman, I know them men are wanting to fuck an ‘image’ of femininity that their wives do not or won’t do. So any woman who thinks their ‘straight’ husband is only interested in her might just be in for a surprise if truth be known. I’m not saying that’s every man BTW, but if the men who request meets with Katie as I say 99% are straight and married. If you are a woman who is meeting ‘straight’ men it would not surprise me that you think nothing more than that, and why should you not believe that he is straight, but when I ask straight guys why it doesn’t say he is into tvs on his profile the answers always the same, if I put that then it would put a real woman off meeting. It worries me for the real women out there who may be being misled

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)


"

OK Bro

Name calling is against the rules.

No one other than you called anyone uneducated and judgemental.

It was a pleasant light thread until these comments were made.

It seems to be a theme."

No name calling here. Just honest opinions.

The only theme is calling out bigotry a phobic attitudes where I see them. If that’s not you, then you don’t need to worry.

If the jokes were aimed at fat women, would everyone be laughing? Jokes about sexuality are just as gross

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire

I decide my sexuality no one else. When I’m in a straight relationship I’m monogamous, so will class myself straight as my past isn’t my present.

As long as my partner is aware of my sexual past I’m not lying to anyone.

If a woman or man had a relationship with a same sex partner in their youth, but then married and remained faithful in a heterosexual relationship. Do we label them as bisexual or just let that person / couple decide for themselves ?

For me it’s a simple answer...it’s non of my business

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By *harisajidanWoman
over a year ago

london


"Serious answer;

In all honesty, as an outside perspective I’d say bi but it’s very much a difficult area regarding orientation and gender.

Self identification is a very important part of any sexuality and there are rarely cover all definitions of what someone is or isn’t.

Labels are important as they allow groups to find each other and grow support networks, those that say ‘I don’t believe in labels’ are either lying to themselves or others.

A trans woman is a woman, as they are recognised as they identify. Sexual organs are seen as being a separate matter, if a person doesn’t enjoy a penis as part of sex, then that might be a deal breaker (however not always). Again, this might be challenged on an individual basis according to how the person feels or identifies.

If a person identifies as straight but sleeps with a trans woman, that’s their prerogative. Whilst there might be some internalised repression going on, that’s not for us to say.

Much as folks on here are intolerant and trans/bi phobic, a little thought and personal empathy goes a long way. Ultimately there’s no one answer to this and making snide remarks just forces others to be even more repressed. Let people identify as they want and enjoy what they want to do

“Let people identify how they want”—eh, yes that sounds good in theory.. but at what point are people being illogical or delusional about something?

If I am mostly sexually attracted and sexually active with the same sex, but still insist on identifying and calling myself straight...there’s some cognitive dissonance going on. I see it all the time on here.

Identifying a behavior by what it is, is not repressive— hence why I hate peoples argument about labels being useless or disliking them. Labels, as clunky as they can be, can sometimes bring awareness and pride.

Labels are not the issue. The issue is people’s biases and phobias towards those labels. The other issue is people wanting to stick with one label (e.g. straight) at all costs over other labels (e.g. bisexual or other) despite their proven sexual activity/attraction because of the privilege afforded to one.

One of the only way it improves is by casting off that privilege label of straight (when one isn’t) and rightfully claiming your accurate sexual identity... hence why there was an LGBT movement fighting exactly for that.

I agree with you on everything that you’ve written. It’s a very complex issue and books have been written without clarifying it, so a few paragraphs can’t even begin to cover it

I don't think it's complicated at all.

Denial is denial.

A man who chooses to dress as a woman is still a man.

And anyone who engages with someone of the same sex is not straight.

The only complicated thing about it is people that want to deny their sexuality.

99% of the guys who approach Katie and I must add it’s always men who approach as katie she does not ever make the 1st contact, 99% of men who approach for meets are straight and married, their wives have stopped wearing lingerie, won’t wear stockings and high heels, won’t swallow and don’t do anal. Men love the feminine image and the sexiness of the soft lingerie and the heels with stockings, I’m under no illusion that Katie is seen as a real woman, I know them men are wanting to fuck an ‘image’ of femininity that their wives do not or won’t do. So any woman who thinks their ‘straight’ husband is only interested in her might just be in for a surprise if truth be known. I’m not saying that’s every man BTW, but if the men who request meets with Katie as I say 99% are straight and married. If you are a woman who is meeting ‘straight’ men it would not surprise me that you think nothing more than that, and why should you not believe that he is straight, but when I ask straight guys why it doesn’t say he is into tvs on his profile the answers always the same, if I put that then it would put a real woman off meeting. It worries me for the real women out there who may be being misled"

LOL, my default assumption of men is they are never straight until proven otherwise—and that’s sometimes unprovable. So I’d never be surprised if they were into or tried “something else”. Most women would be wise to have this mindset too.

I think the general rule is we underestimate sexual fluidity/queerness in men and overestimate it in women. Half the women on this site are nowhere near as bi as they state, ha!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

OK Bro

Name calling is against the rules.

No one other than you called anyone uneducated and judgemental.

It was a pleasant light thread until these comments were made.

It seems to be a theme.

No name calling here. Just honest opinions.

The only theme is calling out bigotry a phobic attitudes where I see them. If that’s not you, then you don’t need to worry.

If the jokes were aimed at fat women, would everyone be laughing? Jokes about sexuality are just as gross"

Is 'fat' another insult along with 'uneducated and judgemental'?

Don't forget that I'm black and Bi too oh and poor - I'm sure you can find some more names to throw at me

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By *bsinthe_boyMan
over a year ago

Luton

Last year I discovered the term "situationally bi" which can apply here.

For example I'm really not into men. But in a MMF or group situation I'll play with other men because it's hot. I do like cocks, they're fun. I've also played with a very sexy T-girl , again the situation was what worked for me.

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By *asycouple777Couple
over a year ago

bristol

We would love to have fun with tv

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By *harisajidanWoman
over a year ago

london


"I decide my sexuality no one else. When I’m in a straight relationship I’m monogamous, so will class myself straight as my past isn’t my present.

As long as my partner is aware of my sexual past I’m not lying to anyone.

If a woman or man had a relationship with a same sex partner in their youth, but then married and remained faithful in a heterosexual relationship. Do we label them as bisexual or just let that person / couple decide for themselves ?

For me it’s a simple answer...it’s non of my business

"

Uhhhhhhh.... your sexuality isn’t solely decided upon who you have relationships with .....

It’s about who you are sexually and romantically attracted to.

So just because you enter a monogamous relationship you stop being attracted to either gender? That’s silly lol.

Or if I never entered into a relationship until my 20s— I didn’t have a sexual orientation before that? I had be in a relationship first with a man to know or establish I was straight? Ok...

Sure you can say it’s no one’s business, but on this site where they ask for your sexual orientation on your profile— obviously they make it everyone else’s business.

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)


"

OK Bro

Name calling is against the rules.

No one other than you called anyone uneducated and judgemental.

It was a pleasant light thread until these comments were made.

It seems to be a theme.

No name calling here. Just honest opinions.

The only theme is calling out bigotry a phobic attitudes where I see them. If that’s not you, then you don’t need to worry.

If the jokes were aimed at fat women, would everyone be laughing? Jokes about sexuality are just as gross

Is 'fat' another insult along with 'uneducated and judgemental'?

Don't forget that I'm black and Bi too oh and poor - I'm sure you can find some more names to throw at me

"

I said that the opinions are uneducated and judgemental, not you. I’ve never met you so I’ve no clue what you look like so can’t possibly make assumptions based on words

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By *andyMinx_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

Leeds

Research "gynandromorphophilic men" (men who have a sexual interest in gynandromorphs (GAMs). GAMs possess a combination of male and female physical characteristics.

"Studies have shown that gynandromorphophilic men's arousal ran high when watching transgender women sex, while their attraction towards cisgender women was equal to that of heterosexuals, but towards men was very low, only slightly higher to that of heterosexuals. They are not repressed homosexuals. They can also be bisexual, but only in some cases".

Transgender individuals don't always have female "physical" characteristics but the same conclusions would no doubt apply if they outwardly display such characteristics.

I found it all very interesting, despite the participants of these studies being given lengthy and difficult to pronounce labels.

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By *harisajidanWoman
over a year ago

london


"Research "gynandromorphophilic men" (men who have a sexual interest in gynandromorphs (GAMs). GAMs possess a combination of male and female physical characteristics.

"Studies have shown that gynandromorphophilic men's arousal ran high when watching transgender women sex, while their attraction towards cisgender women was equal to that of heterosexuals, but towards men was very low, only slightly higher to that of heterosexuals. They are not repressed homosexuals. They can also be bisexual, but only in some cases".

Transgender individuals don't always have female "physical" characteristics but the same conclusions would no doubt apply if they outwardly display such characteristics.

I found it all very interesting, despite the participants of these studies being given lengthy and difficult to pronounce labels.

"

Yea, aka, skoliosexuals

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By *an4funMan
over a year ago

london


"Gay"

Good for you! This site welcomes all comers. Have you tried fab fellas?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh there we go again with this question. Comes back like herpes over and over and OVER lol

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster


"Serious answer;

In all honesty, as an outside perspective I’d say bi but it’s very much a difficult area regarding orientation and gender.

Self identification is a very important part of any sexuality and there are rarely cover all definitions of what someone is or isn’t.

Labels are important as they allow groups to find each other and grow support networks, those that say ‘I don’t believe in labels’ are either lying to themselves or others.

A trans woman is a woman, as they are recognised as they identify. Sexual organs are seen as being a separate matter, if a person doesn’t enjoy a penis as part of sex, then that might be a deal breaker (however not always). Again, this might be challenged on an individual basis according to how the person feels or identifies.

If a person identifies as straight but sleeps with a trans woman, that’s their prerogative. Whilst there might be some internalised repression going on, that’s not for us to say.

Much as folks on here are intolerant and trans/bi phobic, a little thought and personal empathy goes a long way. Ultimately there’s no one answer to this and making snide remarks just forces others to be even more repressed. Let people identify as they want and enjoy what they want to do

“Let people identify how they want”—eh, yes that sounds good in theory.. but at what point are people being illogical or delusional about something?

If I am mostly sexually attracted and sexually active with the same sex, but still insist on identifying and calling myself straight...there’s some cognitive dissonance going on. I see it all the time on here.

Identifying a behavior by what it is, is not repressive— hence why I hate peoples argument about labels being useless or disliking them. Labels, as clunky as they can be, can sometimes bring awareness and pride.

Labels are not the issue. The issue is people’s biases and phobias towards those labels. The other issue is people wanting to stick with one label (e.g. straight) at all costs over other labels (e.g. bisexual or other) despite their proven sexual activity/attraction because of the privilege afforded to one.

One of the only way it improves is by casting off that privilege label of straight (when one isn’t) and rightfully claiming your accurate sexual identity... hence why there was an LGBT movement fighting exactly for that.

I agree with you on everything that you’ve written. It’s a very complex issue and books have been written without clarifying it, so a few paragraphs can’t even begin to cover it

I don't think it's complicated at all.

Denial is denial.

A man who chooses to dress as a woman is still a man.

And anyone who engages with someone of the same sex is not straight.

The only complicated thing about it is people that want to deny their sexuality.

99% of the guys who approach Katie and I must add it’s always men who approach as katie she does not ever make the 1st contact, 99% of men who approach for meets are straight and married, their wives have stopped wearing lingerie, won’t wear stockings and high heels, won’t swallow and don’t do anal. Men love the feminine image and the sexiness of the soft lingerie and the heels with stockings, I’m under no illusion that Katie is seen as a real woman, I know them men are wanting to fuck an ‘image’ of femininity that their wives do not or won’t do. So any woman who thinks their ‘straight’ husband is only interested in her might just be in for a surprise if truth be known. I’m not saying that’s every man BTW, but if the men who request meets with Katie as I say 99% are straight and married. If you are a woman who is meeting ‘straight’ men it would not surprise me that you think nothing more than that, and why should you not believe that he is straight, but when I ask straight guys why it doesn’t say he is into tvs on his profile the answers always the same, if I put that then it would put a real woman off meeting. It worries me for the real women out there who may be being misled"
I've been in this site over 10 yrs now and the above is spot on ,all my tgirl friends say exactly the same things too , there is hoards of "straight" married men chasing and playing with us gurls , fact

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Question is.. why do folks feel the need to put a label on themselves?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just done the census fab straight wasnt an option which supprised me !!!

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By *manaWoman
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Question is.. why do folks feel the need to put a label on themselves?"

Absolutely!!

We are ALL allowed opinions but maybe some should be more carefully thought about.

I'm small, tubby, bi and a marmite lover. How would I feel if somebody began a thread saying one of these were different and strange?

I'd feel gutted.

Which is why I personally treat others how I want to be treated

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

The marmite bit is a bit iffy

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By * Sophie xTV/TS
over a year ago

Derby

Shag a tv and you catch they Ghey....when will you ever learn

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By *manaWoman
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Shag a tv and you catch they Ghey....when will you ever learn "

Best teach me Sophie

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By *manaWoman
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"The marmite bit is a bit iffy "

take that back!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The marmite bit is a bit iffy

take that back!!"

Sorry I agree! May even do a thread

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By *manaWoman
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"The marmite bit is a bit iffy

take that back!!

Sorry I agree! May even do a thread "

Nora!!! No!! Marmite is good stuff!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can you imagine if you had never tasted marmite and it had no label

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By *ndy64hMan
over a year ago

Plymouth

You are what you want to be.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can you imagine if you had never tasted marmite and it had no label "

I can’t even get my nose near it without heaving!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you enjoy it, who cares what you call yourself ! X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Definitely bi but if your mates find out then officially gay

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can you imagine if you had never tasted marmite and it had no label

I can’t even get my nose near it without heaving!"

Don't be like that Nora Marmite is food from the God's

I'm sure that must make you some sort of 'ist' or a Marmaphobe

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By *manaWoman
over a year ago

Basingstoke

Nora, you are marmitist!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So scrolling through this thread, I see alot about labels,

Labels are just a man made construct so we fit nicely into society...

Having said that ppl should be free to express themselves how they see fit...however in an imperfect world, where ppl judge and are judged by ingrained standards and belief systems as to how we should behave and be. This is not always possible.

Ppl are not always comfortable in exposing what they maybe.....so stick within the confines of said given label...all very sad in this day n age

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you even look at my profile you will become full homo

I think he looked

He's learning show tunes as we speak "

We've all looked.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can you imagine if you had never tasted marmite and it had no label

I can’t even get my nose near it without heaving!

Don't be like that Nora Marmite is food from the God's

I'm sure that must make you some sort of 'ist' or a Marmaphobe "

Shall I organise a Marmiphile Pride?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nora, you are marmitist!! "

You know what I think i am . Don’t tell anyone!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you even look at my profile you will become full homo "

She's not lieing op

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can you imagine if you had never tasted marmite and it had no label

I can’t even get my nose near it without heaving!

Don't be like that Nora Marmite is food from the God's

I'm sure that must make you some sort of 'ist' or a Marmaphobe "

Marmaphobe! I like it. I want to be that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can you imagine if you had never tasted marmite and it had no label

I can’t even get my nose near it without heaving!

Don't be like that Nora Marmite is food from the God's

I'm sure that must make you some sort of 'ist' or a Marmaphobe

Shall I organise a Marmiphile Pride?"

I'm in

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)


"So scrolling through this thread, I see alot about labels,

Labels are just a man made construct so we fit nicely into society...

Having said that ppl should be free to express themselves how they see fit...however in an imperfect world, where ppl judge and are judged by ingrained standards and belief systems as to how we should behave and be. This is not always possible.

Ppl are not always comfortable in exposing what they maybe.....so stick within the confines of said given label...all very sad in this day n age

"

This is very true.

I always find it interesting when people say stuff like “labels are just man made constructs, so we don’t need them”, so is language, society, money, philosophy... shall we do away with those too?

Labels are a good thing, until someone disagrees with how it applies to them. So long as labels are defined by you and don’t define you, it’s all good

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
over a year ago

Reading


"If you even look at my profile you will become full homo

I think he looked

He's learning show tunes as we speak

I looked too

Now sat here in a feather headdress and a rara skirt

Now there's an image for ya

I had a rara skirt back in the day - and I'm not even sorry

But the feather headdress is a bit if an overkill "

Mine was hot pink.

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By *aulaxd2020TV/TS
over a year ago

dudley

That is the most difficult question to answer, I think for men it’s probably a guilt free way too dabble with the other side I get loads of men looking at my profile fabbing my photos messaging asking to meet etc (lots of these don’t even mention an interest in tv/Ts on their profile), personally I myself have no interest in men sexually I do however love other nice tgirls, I actually class them as women and strangely class myself as lesbian when I’m “Paula”

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By *adysueandneroCouple
over a year ago

witney


"If you even look at my profile you will become full homo "

Oh dear, I knew I shouldn't have looked.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everyone's like spaghetti, straight until wet.

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By *avelovesfeetMan
over a year ago

Kettering

I would say bi curious

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

There’s plenty of TVs on here that are more attractive than most of the women

So isn’t being straight vs bi about what your attracted too? So if you sleep with an absolute pig of a woman your straight but if you sleep with a TV that looks like a super model your bi? Doesn’t make sense to me

I’d argue that sleeping with some of the women I’ve seen on here makes you more bi than sleeping with some of the absolutely stunning TVs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If someone fucks a tv/ts would you say they are bi or gay ?"

I’d say ask them?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you can't meet women then you go different road.

Everyone has needs

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By *edGMan
over a year ago

Daventry

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"Serious answer;

In all honesty, as an outside perspective I’d say bi but it’s very much a difficult area regarding orientation and gender.

Self identification is a very important part of any sexuality and there are rarely cover all definitions of what someone is or isn’t.

Labels are important as they allow groups to find each other and grow support networks, those that say ‘I don’t believe in labels’ are either lying to themselves or others.

A trans woman is a woman, as they are recognised as they identify. Sexual organs are seen as being a separate matter, if a person doesn’t enjoy a penis as part of sex, then that might be a deal breaker (however not always). Again, this might be challenged on an individual basis according to how the person feels or identifies.

If a person identifies as straight but sleeps with a trans woman, that’s their prerogative. Whilst there might be some internalised repression going on, that’s not for us to say.

Much as folks on here are intolerant and trans/bi phobic, a little thought and personal empathy goes a long way. Ultimately there’s no one answer to this and making snide remarks just forces others to be even more repressed. Let people identify as they want and enjoy what they want to do"

Surely a man who sleeps with a man who identifies as a woman is straight? Is sexually determined by the gender or sex of people you sleep with ?

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

If you really need a label then I’d say bi. But who needs labels? Just do you

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By *VineMan
over a year ago

The right place


"If you even look at my profile you will become full homo "

But you do get to see some great tits

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By *ruebameMan
over a year ago

from the womb and tryout to get back

I fucked a tv once it fell off the wall and exploded luckily the insurance paid out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you even look at my profile you will become full homo "

I now a confirmed full homo... I looked LOL

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If someone fucks a tv/ts would you say they are bi or gay ?"

I identify as straight but boy tv’s turn me on but not been fortunate to meet one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There’s plenty of TVs on here that are more attractive than most of the women

So isn’t being straight vs bi about what your attracted too? So if you sleep with an absolute pig of a woman your straight but if you sleep with a TV that looks like a super model your bi? Doesn’t make sense to me

I’d argue that sleeping with some of the women I’ve seen on here makes you more bi than sleeping with some of the absolutely stunning TVs. "

Exactly, it’s pretty much the attraction that people experience to the Trans/or TV. If a trans woman passes pretty nicely as a woman, how can people suggest that the person is bi?

So using logic, bi curiosity or bisexuality is mainly a label to those who have an attraction to the same gender and people who identify as their gender normally (ill throw in cross dressers in the mix)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If someone fucks a tv/ts would you say they are bi or gay ?"

Very interesting. My thread is always filled with straight guys looking for trans and I've thought the same, however I am not in anyway bi but would play with a couple. I don't have an issue with having sex with females I just know I would never have a relationship with one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't worry what others think

None of their business who you meet etc.

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

Chesterfield

Depends how much you enjoy it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If someone fucks a tv/ts would you say they are bi or gay ?

Very interesting. My thread is always filled with straight guys looking for trans and I've thought the same, however I am not in anyway bi but would play with a couple. I don't have an issue with having sex with females I just know I would never have a relationship with one. "

Ha i get you.

since starting hormones I started having the curiosity to try out a couple (MF) but I’d only do it once I had the *snip* as that’s when I’d feel comfortable with my own body to be able to play with both

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why does there even have to be a label for these things. Really what does it actually matter in the grand scheme of things.

Look at who you wanna look at, kiss who you wanna kiss, fuck who you want wanna fuck, love who you want.

Just be happy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why does there even have to be a label for these things. Really what does it actually matter in the grand scheme of things.

Look at who you wanna look at, kiss who you wanna kiss, fuck who you want wanna fuck, love who you want.

Just be happy. "

Sadly as a society it fucks with people brains… the amount of guys who are happy to fuck a girl like me on the DL, but then they would clearly say “no chance I’d admit it to my mates”

And my trans-ness shouldn’t even come into it as yes it’s part of me but it isn’t THE thing that defines me. It’s exhausting.

But the whole pointing finger and labelling is detrimental to the guys (or girls) who sleep with trans and ultimately affects us trans women and men..

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By *ougie321Man
over a year ago

Milford Haven


"There’s plenty of TVs on here that are more attractive than most of the women

So isn’t being straight vs bi about what your attracted too? So if you sleep with an absolute pig of a woman your straight but if you sleep with a TV that looks like a super model your bi? Doesn’t make sense to me

I’d argue that sleeping with some of the women I’ve seen on here makes you more bi than sleeping with some of the absolutely stunning TVs.

Exactly, it’s pretty much the attraction that people experience to the Trans/or TV. If a trans woman passes pretty nicely as a woman, how can people suggest that the person is bi?

So using logic, bi curiosity or bisexuality is mainly a label to those who have an attraction to the same gender and people who identify as their gender normally (ill throw in cross dressers in the mix)"

I have always believed myself as being straight. Reading through this topic also looking at profiles of pictures that truthfully I found attractive and stunning will now prompt my changing to bi curious on profile.

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By *angerous123Man
over a year ago

Leeds

You can't really put a label on them other than to call them a tgirl admirer. The average gay man won't entertain a man in knickers nevermind a full on TV, trans, cd as theyre attracted to masculinity. A tgirl in many instances understands what appeals to man about feminimity far better than a lot of actual women.

It's not a clear cut thing at all. I'd say once a man plays with a man projecting as a man that you're into the realms of bisexuality. Of course some guys will have homosexual thoughts and a tgirl is a light way of testing the water but for a lot of guys they have zero interest in men yet still fuck tgirls

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By *batMan
over a year ago

Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales)

I would say that fucking a TV doesn't make you Bi, you were Bi already!!!!

Gbat

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire


"You can't really put a label on them other than to call them a tgirl admirer. The average gay man won't entertain a man in knickers nevermind a full on TV, trans, cd as theyre attracted to masculinity. A tgirl in many instances understands what appeals to man about feminimity far better than a lot of actual women.

It's not a clear cut thing at all. I'd say once a man plays with a man projecting as a man that you're into the realms of bisexuality. Of course some guys will have homosexual thoughts and a tgirl is a light way of testing the water but for a lot of guys they have zero interest in men yet still fuck tgirls "

Actually, thanks to these forums, there is a label Gynosexuality, is the attraction to Femininity.

Absolutely agree with your other points I lost a gay friend a few years ago when I came out to him as a TV. He actually found it disgusting that I had the desires to dress and maybe explore a bisexual side. His attitude was prevalent with the macho gay crowd but the more tolerant gay community were very supportive.

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By *acha1TV/TS
over a year ago

Bolton

Why put a label on it, we’re all individuals just enjoy what turns you on

I’ve meet what they call themselves 100% straight guys who have told me they don’t want to touch my cock at all

With in seconds of meeting their on their knees sucking me

One was so devastated he’d sucked my cock..... obviously after he’d cum and the guilt set in x

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By *angerous123Man
over a year ago

Leeds


"You can't really put a label on them other than to call them a tgirl admirer. The average gay man won't entertain a man in knickers nevermind a full on TV, trans, cd as theyre attracted to masculinity. A tgirl in many instances understands what appeals to man about feminimity far better than a lot of actual women.

It's not a clear cut thing at all. I'd say once a man plays with a man projecting as a man that you're into the realms of bisexuality. Of course some guys will have homosexual thoughts and a tgirl is a light way of testing the water but for a lot of guys they have zero interest in men yet still fuck tgirls

Actually, thanks to these forums, there is a label Gynosexuality, is the attraction to Femininity.

Absolutely agree with your other points I lost a gay friend a few years ago when I came out to him as a TV. He actually found it disgusting that I had the desires to dress and maybe explore a bisexual side. His attitude was prevalent with the macho gay crowd but the more tolerant gay community were very supportive. "

Never actually heard that term before!

Yeah its crazy how some gay guys are towards trans. I've only been active with guys for 5 years so still relatively new. It was a major shock to see how some men are towards trans given how persecuted gay men are and were. I would of thought they'd have solidarity with the trans community. Its a shame some are real venomous about it, in fact I stopped seeing one particular guy as his attitude was frankly disgusting, it was as though they were just dirt to him

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By *ancer36Woman
over a year ago

Stirling

I detest labels and these little boxes were all meant to fit in, if you want to try something and you have the balls to go do it all power to you, I couldn’t care who people chose to kiss/fuck/date as long as that person is happy then why not x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You can't really put a label on them other than to call them a tgirl admirer. The average gay man won't entertain a man in knickers nevermind a full on TV, trans, cd as theyre attracted to masculinity. A tgirl in many instances understands what appeals to man about feminimity far better than a lot of actual women.

It's not a clear cut thing at all. I'd say once a man plays with a man projecting as a man that you're into the realms of bisexuality. Of course some guys will have homosexual thoughts and a tgirl is a light way of testing the water but for a lot of guys they have zero interest in men yet still fuck tgirls "

Exactly! I agree with what u say x either way it’s such a difficult area to define as lines start to blur x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You can't really put a label on them other than to call them a tgirl admirer. The average gay man won't entertain a man in knickers nevermind a full on TV, trans, cd as theyre attracted to masculinity. A tgirl in many instances understands what appeals to man about feminimity far better than a lot of actual women.

It's not a clear cut thing at all. I'd say once a man plays with a man projecting as a man that you're into the realms of bisexuality. Of course some guys will have homosexual thoughts and a tgirl is a light way of testing the water but for a lot of guys they have zero interest in men yet still fuck tgirls

Actually, thanks to these forums, there is a label Gynosexuality, is the attraction to Femininity.

Absolutely agree with your other points I lost a gay friend a few years ago when I came out to him as a TV. He actually found it disgusting that I had the desires to dress and maybe explore a bisexual side. His attitude was prevalent with the macho gay crowd but the more tolerant gay community were very supportive.

Never actually heard that term before!

Yeah its crazy how some gay guys are towards trans. I've only been active with guys for 5 years so still relatively new. It was a major shock to see how some men are towards trans given how persecuted gay men are and were. I would of thought they'd have solidarity with the trans community. Its a shame some are real venomous about it, in fact I stopped seeing one particular guy as his attitude was frankly disgusting, it was as though they were just dirt to him"

I’ve heard some of the nastiest comments fromt the gay crowd actually, literals. Thankfully it’s the minority but the so called beef cakes who are masc4masc tend to be the ones who seem to be anti-femininity … including trans …

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire


"You can't really put a label on them other than to call them a tgirl admirer. The average gay man won't entertain a man in knickers nevermind a full on TV, trans, cd as theyre attracted to masculinity. A tgirl in many instances understands what appeals to man about feminimity far better than a lot of actual women.

It's not a clear cut thing at all. I'd say once a man plays with a man projecting as a man that you're into the realms of bisexuality. Of course some guys will have homosexual thoughts and a tgirl is a light way of testing the water but for a lot of guys they have zero interest in men yet still fuck tgirls

Actually, thanks to these forums, there is a label Gynosexuality, is the attraction to Femininity.

Absolutely agree with your other points I lost a gay friend a few years ago when I came out to him as a TV. He actually found it disgusting that I had the desires to dress and maybe explore a bisexual side. His attitude was prevalent with the macho gay crowd but the more tolerant gay community were very supportive.

Never actually heard that term before!

Yeah its crazy how some gay guys are towards trans. I've only been active with guys for 5 years so still relatively new. It was a major shock to see how some men are towards trans given how persecuted gay men are and were. I would of thought they'd have solidarity with the trans community. Its a shame some are real venomous about it, in fact I stopped seeing one particular guy as his attitude was frankly disgusting, it was as though they were just dirt to him"

A d*unken gay guy in Manchester Village wandered up to me, in a well known TV bar and said ‘there’s a reason why the ‘T’ in LGBT is at the end’ …’as you’re an add on’

I would say the straight crowd in my experience in a gay bar in Manchester will be a lot less hostile than the gay crowd. Although I hasten to add though I have had support from plenty of Gay Men and Lesbians as well, it’s only a few that will actually express their distaste verbally, I’m used to the occasional dirty looks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

One to ponder when I’ve been to empire.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You can't really put a label on them other than to call them a tgirl admirer. The average gay man won't entertain a man in knickers nevermind a full on TV, trans, cd as theyre attracted to masculinity. A tgirl in many instances understands what appeals to man about feminimity far better than a lot of actual women.

It's not a clear cut thing at all. I'd say once a man plays with a man projecting as a man that you're into the realms of bisexuality. Of course some guys will have homosexual thoughts and a tgirl is a light way of testing the water but for a lot of guys they have zero interest in men yet still fuck tgirls

Actually, thanks to these forums, there is a label Gynosexuality, is the attraction to Femininity.

Absolutely agree with your other points I lost a gay friend a few years ago when I came out to him as a TV. He actually found it disgusting that I had the desires to dress and maybe explore a bisexual side. His attitude was prevalent with the macho gay crowd but the more tolerant gay community were very supportive.

Never actually heard that term before!

Yeah its crazy how some gay guys are towards trans. I've only been active with guys for 5 years so still relatively new. It was a major shock to see how some men are towards trans given how persecuted gay men are and were. I would of thought they'd have solidarity with the trans community. Its a shame some are real venomous about it, in fact I stopped seeing one particular guy as his attitude was frankly disgusting, it was as though they were just dirt to him

A d*unken gay guy in Manchester Village wandered up to me, in a well known TV bar and said ‘there’s a reason why the ‘T’ in LGBT is at the end’ …’as you’re an add on’

I would say the straight crowd in my experience in a gay bar in Manchester will be a lot less hostile than the gay crowd. Although I hasten to add though I have had support from plenty of Gay Men and Lesbians as well, it’s only a few that will actually express their distaste verbally, I’m used to the occasional dirty looks. "

Absolutely I have also amazing gay friends too that have been my rock.. so

I guess nastiest are absolutely everywhere.. but I just am so baffled when some gay people come at us. That’s all x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bi or gay nothing to be ashamed of I don’t personally understand why it makes any difference to some not involved in that situation!

To be honest look how hot the tv/ts are in thread and tell me otherwise given half a chance I’d love to play with them with zero shame!

Beautiful

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I'm considered gay for thinking some TV/TS on here are beautiful and I'd happily spend a night with them, then so be it. Attraction is attraction at this point. I've no time for labels. We are who we are.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

Why label

You like what you like

Going with a ts makes you straight if we are talking labels

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By *indergirlWoman
over a year ago

somewhere, someplace


"If I'm considered gay for thinking some TV/TS on here are beautiful and I'd happily spend a night with them, then so be it. Attraction is attraction at this point. I've no time for labels. We are who we are."

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By *heeky_chap999Man
over a year ago

caerphilly

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By *heeky_chap999Man
over a year ago

caerphilly

WOW some of the TS / TV girls on this forum are amazing !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

very odd question, of courrse playing with a tv etc makes you bi, but whats wrong with that?

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By *lexeatonMan
over a year ago

Lichfield


"very odd question, of courrse playing with a tv etc makes you bi, but whats wrong with that?"

Don't think he says there is anything wrong with it? Just asking whether it makes you gay/bi.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If I'm considered gay for thinking some TV/TS on here are beautiful and I'd happily spend a night with them, then so be it. Attraction is attraction at this point. I've no time for labels. We are who we are."

It shouldn’t really matter but it’s so annoying and disrespectful if say I was dating a guy and everyone was going at him saying. you are gay for dating kylie.

Invalidates me totally as a woman…. And also creates pressure on guys and hence why some keep us as secrets Only. I’m a woman, who happens to be transgender. End of the story

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also it’s proven that the brain of a trans woman activity is similar to the one of a cisgender woman, and same trans men is identical to the one of a cisgender men.

So when girls like me say, we are literally like trapped in a body that don’t belong to us. Believe us…

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If I'm considered gay for thinking some TV/TS on here are beautiful and I'd happily spend a night with them, then so be it. Attraction is attraction at this point. I've no time for labels. We are who we are.

It shouldn’t really matter but it’s so annoying and disrespectful if say I was dating a guy and everyone was going at him saying. you are gay for dating kylie.

Invalidates me totally as a woman…. And also creates pressure on guys and hence why some keep us as secrets Only. I’m a woman, who happens to be transgender. End of the story "

Last but not least, regarding labels, let that person identity as they want.. if they identity as straight don’t doubt them. If they identity as bi curious.. same thing

it’s finger pointing. Imagine if everyone was pointing at that person back during the Salem years, saying “you are a witch” and then he/she say… but I’m really not.

And then gets burnt at the stake cos everyone was saying “witch”

It affects people and the way they behave (not everyone but hella lot of people)

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Also it’s proven that the brain of a trans woman activity is similar to the one of a cisgender woman, and same trans men is identical to the one of a cisgender men.

So when girls like me say, we are literally like trapped in a body that don’t belong to us. Believe us… "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dono iv only ever been the one dressed up an getting fucked an used so maybe bi for sure but it does feel nice having a total strangers cock inside you using your hole to pleasure himself then fill you up n head home to his wifey :P

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