FabSwingers.com forum: Gender appropriation

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

OK Fabbers, here's a debate opener:

Drag, as an entertainment form, relies on an exaggeration of what is perceived as femininity. It is usually (although not exclusively) perpetrated by those who identify as male.

So, legitimate artform or female appropriation and exploitation? Discuss.

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

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Artform in my eyes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

After an overwhelming few days / weeks / months on Social Media, I’m on a well-earned Identity Politics amnesty break day.

I’ll pop back tomorrow with an opinion.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"OK Fabbers, here's a debate opener:

Drag, as an entertainment form, relies on an exaggeration of what is perceived as femininity. It is usually (although not exclusively) perpetrated by those who identify as male.

So, legitimate artform or female appropriation and exploitation? Discuss."

And as a supplementary, a male fetishising dressing, with make up wig etc. (ie, not as a transgender/transition situation) - misogynistic sexualisation of femininity or legitimate self expression?

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

"OK Fabbers, here's a debate opener:

Drag, as an entertainment form, relies on an exaggeration of what is perceived as femininity. It is usually (although not exclusively) perpetrated by those who identify as male.

So, legitimate artform or female appropriation and exploitation? Discuss.

And as a supplementary, a male fetishising dressing, with make up wig etc. (ie, not as a transgender/transition situation) - misogynistic sexualisation of femininity or legitimate self expression?"

Expression ya nobber

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"OK Fabbers, here's a debate opener:

Drag, as an entertainment form, relies on an exaggeration of what is perceived as femininity. It is usually (although not exclusively) perpetrated by those who identify as male.

So, legitimate artform or female appropriation and exploitation? Discuss.

And as a supplementary, a male fetishising dressing, with make up wig etc. (ie, not as a transgender/transition situation) - misogynistic sexualisation of femininity or legitimate self expression?

Expression ya nobber"

OK that's those answered. Thread closed x

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

"OK Fabbers, here's a debate opener:

Drag, as an entertainment form, relies on an exaggeration of what is perceived as femininity. It is usually (although not exclusively) perpetrated by those who identify as male.

So, legitimate artform or female appropriation and exploitation? Discuss.

And as a supplementary, a male fetishising dressing, with make up wig etc. (ie, not as a transgender/transition situation) - misogynistic sexualisation of femininity or legitimate self expression?

Expression ya nobber

OK that's those answered. Thread closed x"

Fight fight fight

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"OK Fabbers, here's a debate opener:

Drag, as an entertainment form, relies on an exaggeration of what is perceived as femininity. It is usually (although not exclusively) perpetrated by those who identify as male.

So, legitimate artform or female appropriation and exploitation? Discuss.

And as a supplementary, a male fetishising dressing, with make up wig etc. (ie, not as a transgender/transition situation) - misogynistic sexualisation of femininity or legitimate self expression?

Expression ya nobber

OK that's those answered. Thread closed x

Fight fight fight "

No ones gonna fight you ya crazy fucking shortarse

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

"OK Fabbers, here's a debate opener:

Drag, as an entertainment form, relies on an exaggeration of what is perceived as femininity. It is usually (although not exclusively) perpetrated by those who identify as male.

So, legitimate artform or female appropriation and exploitation? Discuss.

And as a supplementary, a male fetishising dressing, with make up wig etc. (ie, not as a transgender/transition situation) - misogynistic sexualisation of femininity or legitimate self expression?

Expression ya nobber

OK that's those answered. Thread closed x

Fight fight fight

No ones gonna fight you ya crazy fucking shortarse "

*sigh*

Booooooooring

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"OK Fabbers, here's a debate opener:

Drag, as an entertainment form, relies on an exaggeration of what is perceived as femininity. It is usually (although not exclusively) perpetrated by those who identify as male.

So, legitimate artform or female appropriation and exploitation? Discuss.

And as a supplementary, a male fetishising dressing, with make up wig etc. (ie, not as a transgender/transition situation) - misogynistic sexualisation of femininity or legitimate self expression?

Expression ya nobber

OK that's those answered. Thread closed x

Fight fight fight

No ones gonna fight you ya crazy fucking shortarse

*sigh*

Booooooooring

I'll just undermine you by appropriating your gender identity.

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

"OK Fabbers, here's a debate opener:

Drag, as an entertainment form, relies on an exaggeration of what is perceived as femininity. It is usually (although not exclusively) perpetrated by those who identify as male.

So, legitimate artform or female appropriation and exploitation? Discuss.

And as a supplementary, a male fetishising dressing, with make up wig etc. (ie, not as a transgender/transition situation) - misogynistic sexualisation of femininity or legitimate self expression?

Expression ya nobber

OK that's those answered. Thread closed x

Fight fight fight

No ones gonna fight you ya crazy fucking shortarse

*sigh*

Booooooooring

I'll just undermine you by appropriating your gender identity."

I heard "ner ner ner ner ner ner nerrrrrrrr"

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"OK Fabbers, here's a debate opener:

Drag, as an entertainment form, relies on an exaggeration of what is perceived as femininity. It is usually (although not exclusively) perpetrated by those who identify as male.

So, legitimate artform or female appropriation and exploitation? Discuss.

And as a supplementary, a male fetishising dressing, with make up wig etc. (ie, not as a transgender/transition situation) - misogynistic sexualisation of femininity or legitimate self expression?

Expression ya nobber

OK that's those answered. Thread closed x

Fight fight fight

No ones gonna fight you ya crazy fucking shortarse

*sigh*

Booooooooring

I'll just undermine you by appropriating your gender identity.

I heard "ner ner ner ner ner ner nerrrrrrrr""

Thats cos it had a few too many long words!

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

"OK Fabbers, here's a debate opener:

Drag, as an entertainment form, relies on an exaggeration of what is perceived as femininity. It is usually (although not exclusively) perpetrated by those who identify as male.

So, legitimate artform or female appropriation and exploitation? Discuss.

And as a supplementary, a male fetishising dressing, with make up wig etc. (ie, not as a transgender/transition situation) - misogynistic sexualisation of femininity or legitimate self expression?

Expression ya nobber

OK that's those answered. Thread closed x

Fight fight fight

No ones gonna fight you ya crazy fucking shortarse

*sigh*

Booooooooring

I'll just undermine you by appropriating your gender identity.

I heard "ner ner ner ner ner ner nerrrrrrrr"

Thats cos it had a few too many long words!"

You spelt way wrong ya plonker!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Bump.

Just putting it out there...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bump.

Just putting it out there..."

Stop being serious and bake us a sourdough Jennie

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By *ljamMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh

It's an interesting issue. For me, although drag has a connection to sort of hyper-exaggerated femininity, it's really it's own thing with a very long lineage and internal culture. Drag artists aren't really trying to be women, they're being drag artists.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Bump.

Just putting it out there...

Stop being serious and bake us a sourdough Jennie

I can be.

Sometimes

Granted I am not that good at it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OK Fabbers, here's a debate opener:

Drag, as an entertainment form, relies on an exaggeration of what is perceived as femininity. It is usually (although not exclusively) perpetrated by those who identify as male.

So, legitimate artform or female appropriation and exploitation? Discuss."

It can be argued that it could be both somehow. It depends on the perspective of feminity drags drawn on which ultimately stems from what society perceives as feminine.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

It could be argued that women have appropriated certain characteristics and labelled them feminine to prevent men exhibiting them.

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By * Sophie xTV/TS
over a year ago

Derby

"It could be argued that women have appropriated certain characteristics and labelled them feminine to prevent men exhibiting them."

What she said.....I want to be able to flaunt my moobs and not be called a sissy

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It could be argued that women have appropriated certain characteristics and labelled them feminine to prevent men exhibiting them."

Wow ... thats a take I hadn't considered

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By * Sophie xTV/TS
over a year ago

Derby

(I dont actually have moobs)

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By *londenewcoupleCouple
over a year ago

Stafford

If sexuality and arguably gender are a continuum - then this whole debate lacks any validity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Art form - it see it as a celebration of feminity. Playing with attributes, styles, manners considered as feminine and elevating them to an art.

Also I don’t understand the concept of female appropriation. There are various degrees of feminity in each of us and it’s not a finite resource: by adopting feminine attributes, you’re not depriving anybody else. So why feel threaten and claim feminity is the exclusive reserve of women?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think drag is an artform

It goes back thousands of years

I think it's wonderful, especially the old school stuff

I love watching the videos on the RVT FB page of the shows in the 60's & 70's

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"(I dont actually have moobs)

I didn't mean physical characteristics but if you did have them you flaunt them

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