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"Yes I’m gonna get shot down in flames by the woke brigade but why are so my celebrities suddenly telling us about the battle with depression suicide thoughts etc, nobody would dare question if it’s true or not and they get much wanted press attention!!" Think of how many celebrities there actually are... then compare that to the number who are discussing their mental illness... You’ll find that it will probably correlate quite closely to the incidence of mental health issues and depression suffered by the general population. Anyone can have issues with their mental health in the same way anyone can have issues with their physical health. And people saying on social media about celebrities faking mental illness don’t realise the harm they do.... the celebrity won’t see what you say, but your friend/relative/loved one will and may not open up to you about it or seek help in case you don’t believe them either... Don’t be a dick | |||
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"Because 1 in 6 experience some form of mental health issues. And celebrities aren't immune from it, and maybe they think by telling their stories they may reduce the stigma surrounding it. But meh who cares what I say I'm clearly woke " I’m barely awake and yet simultaneously woke also... | |||
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"Perhaps because they have seen others do it and feel they can. It takes a lot of fucking courage to admit you're struggling with your mental health, especially when you're rich and famous, because people seem to feel they're not entitled to struggle too. They may seem to have everything, but they don't have good mental health, so in my opinion they have the right to reach out. What really upsets me is how people judge those who reach out to be needy, attention seekers, yet the minute one of those people take their lives or something, all of a sudden everyone says how sad it is. Look at Caroline Flack. Be kind, always. You never ever know what is going on behind closed doors of a house, a mansion or a palace. "This!! | |||
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"Yes I’m gonna get shot down in flames by the woke brigade but why are so my celebrities suddenly telling us about the battle with depression suicide thoughts etc, nobody would dare question if it’s true or not and they get much wanted press attention!!" Woke brigade 
Maybe they’re just people who care and why would you question it anyway. How would you decide what’s going on in someone else’s head or life ?
Someone says their struggling I’d think the majority of the time, it’s true.
Try a bit of empathy Op it’s a great attribute. | |||
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"Perhaps because they have seen others do it and feel they can. It takes a lot of fucking courage to admit you're struggling with your mental health, especially when you're rich and famous, because people seem to feel they're not entitled to struggle too. They may seem to have everything, but they don't have good mental health, so in my opinion they have the right to reach out. What really upsets me is how people judge those who reach out to be needy, attention seekers, yet the minute one of those people take their lives or something, all of a sudden everyone says how sad it is. Look at Caroline Flack. Be kind, always. You never ever know what is going on behind closed doors of a house, a mansion or a palace. "Well said! Being rich/famous whatever, does not make you immune to mental health issues. | |||
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"Perhaps because they have seen others do it and feel they can. It takes a lot of fucking courage to admit you're struggling with your mental health, especially when you're rich and famous, because people seem to feel they're not entitled to struggle too. They may seem to have everything, but they don't have good mental health, so in my opinion they have the right to reach out. What really upsets me is how people judge those who reach out to be needy, attention seekers, yet the minute one of those people take their lives or something, all of a sudden everyone says how sad it is. Look at Caroline Flack. Be kind, always. You never ever know what is going on behind closed doors of a house, a mansion or a palace. "Spot on There is a documentary on her next week I never watched those programmes she was in but I thought it was really sad,that she could see no way out. | |||
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"Still say certain celebrities are doing it for much needed attention seeking publicity that’s my opinion." With the pandemic going on I'm sure there are many many people who are currently depressed in one way or another. Celebrities are so much more important than us ordinary folk  | |||
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"Still say certain celebrities are doing it for much needed attention seeking publicity that’s my opinion." Yeah and people saying it attention seeking is why some people aren't getting the right help and suffer the consequences. I personally presume people are telling the truth, unless there's evidence to suggest not. It's too late when they feel they have no other option than take their own life | |||
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"Still say certain celebrities are doing it for much needed attention seeking publicity that’s my opinion. Yeah and people saying it attention seeking is why some people aren't getting the right help and suffer the consequences. I personally presume people are telling the truth, unless there's evidence to suggest not. It's too late when they feel they have no other option than take their own life " This! | |||
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"Yes I’m gonna get shot down in flames by the woke brigade but why are so my celebrities suddenly telling us about the battle with depression suicide thoughts etc, nobody would dare question if it’s true or not and they get much wanted press attention!! Woke brigade
Maybe they’re just people who care and why would you question it anyway. How would you decide what’s going on in someone else’s head or life ?
Someone says their struggling I’d think the majority of the time, it’s true.
Try a bit of empathy Op it’s a great attribute. "How do you know that the OP isn't suffering from depression and that this thread is their way of coping? #bekind | |||
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"Perhaps because they have seen others do it and feel they can. It takes a lot of fucking courage to admit you're struggling with your mental health, especially when you're rich and famous, because people seem to feel they're not entitled to struggle too. They may seem to have everything, but they don't have good mental health, so in my opinion they have the right to reach out. What really upsets me is how people judge those who reach out to be needy, attention seekers, yet the minute one of those people take their lives or something, all of a sudden everyone says how sad it is. Look at Caroline Flack. Be kind, always. You never ever know what is going on behind closed doors of a house, a mansion or a palace. "I was going to comment but you’ve basically said it for me | |||
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"Yes I’m gonna get shot down in flames by the woke brigade but why are so my celebrities suddenly telling us about the battle with depression suicide thoughts etc, nobody would dare question if it’s true or not and they get much wanted press attention!!" Mental illness doesn't discriminate anyone... maybe everything that's happening in the world to help and get people to speak out is actually working... | |||
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"Yes I’m gonna get shot down in flames by the woke brigade but why are so my celebrities suddenly telling us about the battle with depression suicide thoughts etc, nobody would dare question if it’s true or not and they get much wanted press attention!! Woke brigade
Maybe they’re just people who care and why would you question it anyway. How would you decide what’s going on in someone else’s head or life ?
Someone says their struggling I’d think the majority of the time, it’s true.
Try a bit of empathy Op it’s a great attribute.
How do you know that the OP isn't suffering from depression and that this thread is their way of coping?
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"Yes I’m gonna get shot down in flames by the woke brigade but why are so my celebrities suddenly telling us about the battle with depression suicide thoughts etc, nobody would dare question if it’s true or not and they get much wanted press attention!! Woke brigade
Maybe they’re just people who care and why would you question it anyway. How would you decide what’s going on in someone else’s head or life ?
Someone says their struggling I’d think the majority of the time, it’s true.
Try a bit of empathy Op it’s a great attribute.
How do you know that the OP isn't suffering from depression and that this thread is their way of coping?
#bekind
Attacking others isn’t coping "That's very judgemental. It may be for them, how do you know - are you an expert? #bekind - to everyone or you're a hypocrite | |||
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"Maybe because of the shit caroline flack went through and people are more open talking about mental health?" What the same woman that smashed a lamp over a guys head Come off it, reverse the genders and you would want the guy lynched in the street and you would be laughing at thought of the guy killing himself What happened was shit yeah, but she doesnt really deserve sympathy | |||
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"Maybe because of the shit caroline flack went through and people are more open talking about mental health? What the same woman that smashed a lamp over a guys head Come off it, reverse the genders and you would want the guy lynched in the street and you would be laughing at thought of the guy killing himself What happened was shit yeah, but she doesnt really deserve sympathy" No I wouldn't because I'm not a huge fan of fuckwits taking the law into their own hands. She deserved to face the consequences of her actions. She didnt deserve to be hounded on social media and by the press. There is a slight difference. | |||
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"Yes I’m gonna get shot down in flames by the woke brigade but why are so my celebrities suddenly telling us about the battle with depression suicide thoughts etc, nobody would dare question if it’s true or not and they get much wanted press attention!! Woke brigade
Maybe they’re just people who care and why would you question it anyway. How would you decide what’s going on in someone else’s head or life ?
Someone says their struggling I’d think the majority of the time, it’s true.
Try a bit of empathy Op it’s a great attribute.
How do you know that the OP isn't suffering from depression and that this thread is their way of coping?
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Attacking others isn’t coping
That's very judgemental. It may be for them, how do you know - are you an expert?
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"Maybe because of the shit caroline flack went through and people are more open talking about mental health? What the same woman that smashed a lamp over a guys head Come off it, reverse the genders and you would want the guy lynched in the street and you would be laughing at thought of the guy killing himself What happened was shit yeah, but she doesnt really deserve sympathy" Yeah, the same guy that didn't want to press charges because he knew what she was going through...that's the one | |||
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"Maybe because of the shit caroline flack went through and people are more open talking about mental health? What the same woman that smashed a lamp over a guys head Come off it, reverse the genders and you would want the guy lynched in the street and you would be laughing at thought of the guy killing himself What happened was shit yeah, but she doesnt really deserve sympathy Yeah, the same guy that didn't want to press charges because he knew what she was going through...that's the one " Again reverse the Genders There is a reason why people get charged for Domestic abuse by the police even if charges are dropped "He wont do it again, He loves me" sound familiar? | |||
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"Maybe because of the shit caroline flack went through and people are more open talking about mental health? What the same woman that smashed a lamp over a guys head Come off it, reverse the genders and you would want the guy lynched in the street and you would be laughing at thought of the guy killing himself What happened was shit yeah, but she doesnt really deserve sympathy Yeah, the same guy that didn't want to press charges because he knew what she was going through...that's the one Again reverse the Genders There is a reason why people get charged for Domestic abuse by the police even if charges are dropped "He wont do it again, He loves me" sound familiar? " But the discussion is about depression not domestic violence. No one condones violence but that doesn't mean we can't empathise with someone suffering with depression that leads them to suicide. | |||
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"It’s just an easy get out with some ppl look at Megan on Monday would you really follow it through it being pregnant no I don’t think any woman would. Caroline flack that was bad what happened Garry speed my best mate did just before he was going to get married I can mention a few my self 3 times it’s easy for some to say it but until u have actually been there and tried no one will ever know until u follow it through. It’s never an easy thing to admit it. Not sure I am making a typing sense with this subject " I hear you, have one attempt under my belt. And I told no one, I told people I wasn't coping and they said I was attention seeking. Or that it was the same old story. Took years to admit to anyone what I did. Nobody spoke of it in those days. I don't care of one of a myriad of celebs say they suffer. If it makes it easier for people to have the conversation. | |||
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"Yes I’m gonna get shot down in flames by the woke brigade but why are so my celebrities suddenly telling us about the battle with depression suicide thoughts etc, nobody would dare question if it’s true or not and they get much wanted press attention!!" We all struggle, wealth, status etc. doesn't stop that...if celebrities use there status to raise awareness, n help society move away from preconceptions and ideas of what is still a taboo subject, especially in some communities then all the power to the | |||
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"Perhaps because they have seen others do it and feel they can. It takes a lot of fucking courage to admit you're struggling with your mental health, especially when you're rich and famous, because people seem to feel they're not entitled to struggle too. They may seem to have everything, but they don't have good mental health, so in my opinion they have the right to reach out. What really upsets me is how people judge those who reach out to be needy, attention seekers, yet the minute one of those people take their lives or something, all of a sudden everyone says how sad it is. Look at Caroline Flack. Be kind, always. You never ever know what is going on behind closed doors of a house, a mansion or a palace. " totally this
plus in modern society as a celebrity you are a target for online trolls - its impossible to maintain that job and switch off from the press , but the press is no longer papers printed once per day , its a constant stream of online clickbait nonsense or “fans” direct into your inbox - the pressure to keep up and the abuse they must take surely leads to even more struggles with mental health than ever before
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"Yes I’m gonna get shot down in flames by the woke brigade but why are so my celebrities suddenly telling us about the battle with depression suicide thoughts etc, nobody would dare question if it’s true or not and they get much wanted press attention!!" You were right about being shot down  and people weren't particularly kind or measured in their responses.
I think I know what you mean Leanne..... correct me if i'm wrong.
You think that there are genuine cases of depression and we would all help.. but there are some people who really are shameless enough to claim depression for the publicity.
That's the way I see it too. However we have to give everyone the benefit of the doubt just in case.
I watch celebrities and people on social media vomiting into the void in order to get attention - labelling their 'down days' as depression - calling their 'moods' depression - their fed up days as depression and their I didn't get my own way as depression .......
Ideas escalate and people just believe any bloody story and give sympathy, calling out anyone that isn't gullible.... and do injustice to those who are truly suffering from a diagnosable condition.
We can't take chances though - but I hear what you say .... very many self pitying publicity hungry people , cheapening a serious issue.
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"Still say certain celebrities are doing it for much needed attention seeking publicity that’s my opinion." What mentally stable person would fake mental illness? They wouldn't feel the need for 'attention' if they were well adjusted content people. If somebody is claiming to not be coping I tend to believe them. | |||
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"Still say certain celebrities are doing it for much needed attention seeking publicity that’s my opinion." You will often get people jumping on the bandwagon for whatever reason and it is possible that this may be happening here in some cases. However, the good that these people are doing by bringing it out into the open and reducing the stigma I think compensates for this. I also wonder how sad and unfulfilled a person's life must be to go to these lengths to seek attention in this way in the first place. I suspect that those 'attention seeking' actually have huge issues that they need help with. As others have said, there is no way of knowing what others are going through. | |||
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"Still say certain celebrities are doing it for much needed attention seeking publicity that’s my opinion. Yeah and people saying it attention seeking is why some people aren't getting the right help and suffer the consequences. I personally presume people are telling the truth, unless there's evidence to suggest not. It's too late when they feel they have no other option than take their own life " a medical professional will tell you too that its protocol to never assume its a cry for help (even when it is) , we have no idea what is going on in someones head , we have to take what they tell us at face value | |||
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"What the fuck do they have to be depressed about?" Could you live in Emmerdale Wonko . ? | |||
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"What the fuck do they have to be depressed about?" Depression doesn't vanish if you become famous. | |||
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"What the fuck do they have to be depressed about?" Family problems, anxiety, online abuse, fears over long term careers.... and the same things EVERYONE can suffer depression about... Please actually look into what depression actually is before making such a ridiculous and stupid comment | |||
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"What the fuck do they have to be depressed about? Could you live in Emmerdale Wonko . ? " Don't know I have never watched it | |||
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"What the fuck do they have to be depressed about? Family problems, anxiety, online abuse, fears over long term careers.... and the same things EVERYONE can suffer depression about... Please actually look into what depression actually is before making such a ridiculous and stupid comment " I am actually a long time sufferer but how were you to know | |||
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" Anyone can have issues with their mental health in the same way anyone can have issues with their physical health." But no one wants to read about a celebrity with a bad back or a colicky knee. But if they are mental, it’s an interesting read | |||
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"It’s just an easy get out with some ppl look at Megan on Monday would you really follow it through it being pregnant no I don’t think any woman would. Caroline flack that was bad what happened Garry speed my best mate did just before he was going to get married I can mention a few my self 3 times it’s easy for some to say it but until u have actually been there and tried no one will ever know until u follow it through. It’s never an easy thing to admit it. Not sure I am making a typing sense with this subject " it blows my mind that you can on one hand know what it is like and on the other dismiss others as an easy get out - “it’s easy to say” ... is it really? as someone who has been there do you remember just how hard it actually was to say? for some people the inability to be brave enough to say (or lack of someone to say to) is what literally what tips them over if being pregnant is the only thing stopping you from following through in your thoughts , should we still just dismiss because nah its not like shes gonna do it while shes having a baby | |||
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"What the fuck do they have to be depressed about? Family problems, anxiety, online abuse, fears over long term careers.... and the same things EVERYONE can suffer depression about... Please actually look into what depression actually is before making such a ridiculous and stupid comment I am actually a long time sufferer but how were you to know " Then don’t make a comment that belittles and downplays anyone else’s mental health, you should know full well the harm it can have | |||
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"Maybe because of the shit caroline flack went through and people are more open talking about mental health? What the same woman that smashed a lamp over a guys head Come off it, reverse the genders and you would want the guy lynched in the street and you would be laughing at thought of the guy killing himself What happened was shit yeah, but she doesnt really deserve sympathy" Because of course you know all the information on the incident. Even the boyfriend didn’t support the prosecution and said he wasn’t a victim. | |||
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"It’s just an easy get out with some ppl look at Megan on Monday would you really follow it through it being pregnant no I don’t think any woman would. Caroline flack that was bad what happened Garry speed my best mate did just before he was going to get married I can mention a few my self 3 times it’s easy for some to say it but until u have actually been there and tried no one will ever know until u follow it through. It’s never an easy thing to admit it. Not sure I am making a typing sense with this subject it blows my mind that you can on one hand know what it is like and on the other dismiss others as an easy get out - “it’s easy to say” ... is it really? as someone who has been there do you remember just how hard it actually was to say? for some people the inability to be brave enough to say (or lack of someone to say to) is what literally what tips them over if being pregnant is the only thing stopping you from following through in your thoughts , should we still just dismiss because nah its not like shes gonna do it while shes having a baby "I'm not really sure what the.poster was trying to say tbh. | |||
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"Because 1 in 6 experience some form of mental health issues. And celebrities aren't immune from it, and maybe they think by telling their stories they may reduce the stigma surrounding it. But meh who cares what I say I'm clearly woke " I completely agree with you but it's actually 1 in 4. | |||
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" Anyone can have issues with their mental health in the same way anyone can have issues with their physical health. But no one wants to read about a celebrity with a bad back or a colicky knee. But if they are mental, it’s an interesting read " A bad back or knee doesn’t cause people to kill themselves | |||
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"It’s just an easy get out with some ppl look at Megan on Monday would you really follow it through it being pregnant no I don’t think any woman would. Caroline flack that was bad what happened Garry speed my best mate did just before he was going to get married I can mention a few my self 3 times it’s easy for some to say it but until u have actually been there and tried no one will ever know until u follow it through. It’s never an easy thing to admit it. Not sure I am making a typing sense with this subject it blows my mind that you can on one hand know what it is like and on the other dismiss others as an easy get out - “it’s easy to say” ... is it really? as someone who has been there do you remember just how hard it actually was to say? for some people the inability to be brave enough to say (or lack of someone to say to) is what literally what tips them over if being pregnant is the only thing stopping you from following through in your thoughts , should we still just dismiss because nah its not like shes gonna do it while shes having a baby
I'm not really sure what the.poster was trying to say tbh.""It’s just an easy get out with some ppl look at Megan on Monday would you really follow it through it being pregnant no I don’t think any woman would. i’ve added a return where i think 2 sentences should be split but it was pretty clear implication to me of “meagan was lying - as if anyone pregnant could ever kill themselves” | |||
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"Still say certain celebrities are doing it for much needed attention seeking publicity that’s my opinion." It's comments like this that stop people reaching out because they don't feel they will be believed. You might think this is just words on a screen and that you are just being controversial but your words could have serious consequences and that is worth considering. | |||
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" I been to see a counsellor few time was on anti depressants but at a reduced dose now and I can now spk about it and try and help others who are feeling down we all need to help each other. "I'm really glad you got and feel stronger. X | |||
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"What the fuck do they have to be depressed about?" This makes me so sad. Your lack of humanity, empathy and kindness towards others, when you yourself have experienced how it feels to be depressed. Mental health isn't just for those who aren't famous. Show some compassion. | |||
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"Yeah think I cocked my typing up saying it. Sorry if I messed up. Didn’t mean any harm or anything against her. " fair enough - stuff can come out differently written down than it would in conversation- thats why it blew my mine lol | |||
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"What the fuck do they have to be depressed about? This makes me so sad. Your lack of humanity, empathy and kindness towards others, when you yourself have experienced how it feels to be depressed. Mental health isn't just for those who aren't famous. Show some compassion. " some people genuinely think if you have a bit of money or fame then you have no problems which is sad in itself - i lost count of the number of times “princess megan in her castle” was bandied about at the start of the week as though a title and a fancy house is enough in life to make anyone happy - to me that says more about what would make the person saying it happy (or what they perhaps naively think would) | |||
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"Anyone else want to have a go at me for my comments? " I don't see the people have had a go at you, I see people have challenged what you said there is a big difference. | |||
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"Anyone else want to have a go at me for my comments? " No thanks, I've said what I needed to, think it just falls on deaf ears with you anyway. | |||
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"Anyone else want to have a go at me for my comments? No thanks, I've said what I needed to, think it just falls on deaf ears with you anyway. " I do listen. How I choose to respond is still my choice | |||
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"Anyone else want to have a go at me for my comments? No thanks, I've said what I needed to, think it just falls on deaf ears with you anyway. I do listen. How I choose to respond is still my choice " Yes it is and how people choose to respond to you is their choice. | |||
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"Anyone else want to have a go at me for my comments? No thanks, I've said what I needed to, think it just falls on deaf ears with you anyway. I do listen. How I choose to respond is still my choice " We all have how to respond, ppl also have the choice to challenge you on any response you do make | |||
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" Anyone can have issues with their mental health in the same way anyone can have issues with their physical health. But no one wants to read about a celebrity with a bad back or a colicky knee. But if they are mental, it’s an interesting read A bad back or knee doesn’t cause people to kill themselves " Living in constant, unremitting pain, irrespective of the cause, definitely causes people to seek a permanent solution, and no, I don't mean a knee replacement. | |||
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"Yes I’m gonna get shot down in flames by the woke brigade but why are so my celebrities suddenly telling us about the battle with depression suicide thoughts etc, nobody would dare question if it’s true or not and they get much wanted press attention!!" So what do you think now, OP? | |||
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"Wonko said he had or has depression. He should only be answered in positive terms and support should be given. According to what people on here say. And you mustn't question his claim. Why aren't people doing what they are calling for ? " Because he's not in the Clique. Only they get hugs and glitter. | |||
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"I think most people have felt suicidal at some time in their life, I certainly have. more men kill themselves than women. but we are exposed to rich spoiled women in the media continually going on about being depressed its just part of the act. " I think that's an unfounded assumption | |||
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"Wonko said he had or has depression. He should only be answered in positive terms and support should be given. According to what people on here say. And you mustn't question his claim. Why aren't people doing what they are calling for ? Because he's not in the Clique. Only they get hugs and glitter. " well said, | |||
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"Wonko said he had or has depression. He should only be answered in positive terms and support should be given. According to what people on here say. And you mustn't question his claim. Why aren't people doing what they are calling for ? " Because my original comment is not deemed politically correct | |||
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"Wonko said he had or has depression. He should only be answered in positive terms and support should be given. According to what people on here say. And you mustn't question his claim. Why aren't people doing what they are calling for ? Because my original comment is not deemed politically correct" It was nothing to be with being pc. You asked what do celebrities have to be depressed about. Your question was answered quite categorically | |||
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"Wonko said he had or has depression. He should only be answered in positive terms and support should be given. According to what people on here say. And you mustn't question his claim. Why aren't people doing what they are calling for ? Because my original comment is not deemed politically correct" You're the real the victim here. | |||
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"Wonko said he had or has depression. He should only be answered in positive terms and support should be given. According to what people on here say. And you mustn't question his claim. Why aren't people doing what they are calling for ? " On sorry but I can't see anybody that has said the megane's claim should not be disputed I just think the way in which people have done it on this thread is shocking. Just because you have a mental health condition doesn't mean You can say what you like without others disagreeing. The original comment made by wonko wasn't compassionate and he was disputing the claim. All so he didn't disclose that until much further down the thread. | |||
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"Wonko said he had or has depression. He should only be answered in positive terms and support should be given. According to what people on here say. And you mustn't question his claim. Why aren't people doing what they are calling for ? Because my original comment is not deemed politically correct You're the real the victim here." Why does it come to victim state, its simply ppl having difference of opinion, and those being challenged thru conversation, | |||
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"Wonko said he had or has depression. He should only be answered in positive terms and support should be given. According to what people on here say. And you mustn't question his claim. Why aren't people doing what they are calling for ? Because my original comment is not deemed politically correct" Political correctness has nothing to do with it... your initial comment was I’ll thought out and crass, and you were rightly challenged for it. Having had mental health issues yourself doesn’t allow you to scorn others with the same issues | |||
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"Wonko said he had or has depression. He should only be answered in positive terms and support should be given. According to what people on here say. And you mustn't question his claim. Why aren't people doing what they are calling for ? Because he's not in the Clique. Only they get hugs and glitter. " That is absolute rubbish and you know it. If he had said he wanted support he would have got it but he didn't it is nothing to do with being in a clique. Seems you can't call anyone out or disagree without being told you are a the "clique" Some of the people calling for others to be kind maybe should consider how their comments come across. | |||
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"Wonko said he had or has depression. He should only be answered in positive terms and support should be given. According to what people on here say. And you mustn't question his claim. Why aren't people doing what they are calling for ? " nobody that i can see have challenged his claim of having depression they have challenged how he have suffered but appear to have little empathy for other sufferers - that is not unkind i know you are usually just devils advocate granny but in general online people have q real confusion for an alternative viewpoint being mean, personal, trolling, bullying - i can only assume its because tone of written text can be really hard to pick up | |||
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"I think regardless of the thinking behind it any cry for help should be listened too. I’d rather be tricked by 100 people looking for attention than miss a genuine person who needs help. As for celebrities, I’d say they are more prone to it. Imagine being constantly analysed and publicly judged by people. Being on edge all the time about how you’re acting and what you’re saying. Just because someone’s rich doesn’t make any difference to how they feel. " | |||
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"Wonko said he had or has depression. He should only be answered in positive terms and support should be given. According to what people on here say. And you mustn't question his claim. Why aren't people doing what they are calling for ? Because he's not in the Clique. Only they get hugs and glitter. That is absolute rubbish and you know it. If he had said he wanted support he would have got it but he didn't it is nothing to do with being in a clique. Seems you can't call anyone out or disagree without being told you are a the "clique" Some of the people calling for others to be kind maybe should consider how their comments come across. " It is true. | |||
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"Wonko said he had or has depression. He should only be answered in positive terms and support should be given. According to what people on here say. And you mustn't question his claim. Why aren't people doing what they are calling for ? On sorry but I can't see anybody that has said the megane's claim should not be disputed I just think the way in which people have done it on this thread is shocking. Just because you have a mental health condition doesn't mean You can say what you like without others disagreeing. The original comment made by wonko wasn't compassionate and he was disputing the claim. All so he didn't disclose that until much further down the thread." Exactly this. | |||
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"Wonko said he had or has depression. He should only be answered in positive terms and support should be given. According to what people on here say. And you mustn't question his claim. Why aren't people doing what they are calling for ? On sorry but I can't see anybody that has said the megane's claim should not be disputed I just think the way in which people have done it on this thread is shocking. Just because you have a mental health condition doesn't mean You can say what you like without others disagreeing. The original comment made by wonko wasn't compassionate and he was disputing the claim. All so he didn't disclose that until much further down the thread." I think it's fine for people to disagree - depressed or not. It's the double standards I find difficult. The very same people calling for kindness and compassion are not disagreeing without attacking. I don't know if Wonko is depressed but he says he is ......... so no one should question that ( i'm only using what others have said ) If others have said we must believe...... then they must believe. | |||
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"Wonko said he had or has depression. He should only be answered in positive terms and support should be given. According to what people on here say. And you mustn't question his claim. Why aren't people doing what they are calling for ? Because my original comment is not deemed politically correct You're the real the victim here. Why does it come to victim state, its simply ppl having difference of opinion, and those being challenged thru conversation, " Because he's justified the responses his post received on the grounds of political correctness. Political correctness and being woke are both right wing constructs intended to devalue, diminish and dismiss truth's they don't want said out loud and accepted. | |||
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"Wonko said he had or has depression. He should only be answered in positive terms and support should be given. According to what people on here say. And you mustn't question his claim. Why aren't people doing what they are calling for ? On sorry but I can't see anybody that has said the megane's claim should not be disputed I just think the way in which people have done it on this thread is shocking. Just because you have a mental health condition doesn't mean You can say what you like without others disagreeing. The original comment made by wonko wasn't compassionate and he was disputing the claim. All so he didn't disclose that until much further down the thread. I think it's fine for people to disagree - depressed or not. It's the double standards I find difficult. The very same people calling for kindness and compassion are not disagreeing without attacking. I don't know if Wonko is depressed but he says he is ......... so no one should question that ( i'm only using what others have said ) If others have said we must believe...... then they must believe. " Really sorry but I can't see what you were talking about. He made an initial statement that was very controversial, He was called out on that and as far as I can see nobody has attacked him but have just disagreed with him. Then several comments later said he had depression, I cannot see anything that suggests he has been attacked and just because Somebody has the same condition doesn't mean they can't be disagreed with. | |||
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"Pretty ignorant. For celebs Pressure being in the public eye, expectations, & theres alot of people that love celebrities but theres also alot of haters that get of abusing/trolling on social media ect... it takes its toll. Ive suffered for 6 years with it and attempted suicide twice, thankfully im out the otherside now, i was the last person anyone that knows me expected to be going through it but to speak out was the best thing i did, and if other followers of these certain celebrities are going through it and their idol of a celebrity does speak out.. i just hope it gives those the strength to speak out. "The ability to speak out should be encouraged, without fear of ridicule and the feeling if being judged, it wasent until I was shown the unconditional positive regard that I was unable to do this, which in turn allowed me to enter into the process of turning my life around 180 degrees | |||
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"Pretty ignorant. For celebs Pressure being in the public eye, expectations, & theres alot of people that love celebrities but theres also alot of haters that get of abusing/trolling on social media ect... it takes its toll. Ive suffered for 6 years with it and attempted suicide twice, thankfully im out the otherside now, i was the last person anyone that knows me expected to be going through it but to speak out was the best thing i did, and if other followers of these certain celebrities are going through it and their idol of a celebrity does speak out.. i just hope it gives those the strength to speak out.
The ability to speak out should be encouraged, without fear of ridicule and the feeling if being judged, it wasent until I was shown the unconditional positive regard that I was unable to do this, which in turn allowed me to enter into the process of turning my life around 180 degrees " thats good to hear | |||
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"Pretty ignorant. For celebs Pressure being in the public eye, expectations, & theres alot of people that love celebrities but theres also alot of haters that get of abusing/trolling on social media ect... it takes its toll. Ive suffered for 6 years with it and attempted suicide twice, thankfully im out the otherside now, i was the last person anyone that knows me expected to be going through it but to speak out was the best thing i did, and if other followers of these certain celebrities are going through it and their idol of a celebrity does speak out.. i just hope it gives those the strength to speak out.
The ability to speak out should be encouraged, without fear of ridicule and the feeling if being judged, it wasent until I was shown the unconditional positive regard that I was unable to do this, which in turn allowed me to enter into the process of turning my life around 180 degrees " you've done amazingly x | |||
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"Yes I suffer from depression Do I believe all the celebs claims. No I don't. Is my point of view Controversial yes. Did I specifically attack certain celebs. No I didn't. Do I care that my comments upset people. No because right or wrong we are all entitled to our own opinions " | |||
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"Yes I suffer from depression Do I believe all the celebs claims. No I don't. Is my point of view Controversial yes. Did I specifically attack certain celebs. No I didn't. Do I care that my comments upset people. No because right or wrong we are all entitled to our own opinions " So doesn't that mean that it's wrong to dismiss opinions that differ from yours on the grounds of political correctness? | |||
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"Wonko said he had or has depression. He should only be answered in positive terms and support should be given. According to what people on here say. And you mustn't question his claim. Why aren't people doing what they are calling for ? On sorry but I can't see anybody that has said the megane's claim should not be disputed I just think the way in which people have done it on this thread is shocking. Just because you have a mental health condition doesn't mean You can say what you like without others disagreeing. The original comment made by wonko wasn't compassionate and he was disputing the claim. All so he didn't disclose that until much further down the thread. I think it's fine for people to disagree - depressed or not. It's the double standards I find difficult. The very same people calling for kindness and compassion are not disagreeing without attacking. I don't know if Wonko is depressed but he says he is ......... so no one should question that ( i'm only using what others have said ) If others have said we must believe...... then they must believe. Really sorry but I can't see what you were talking about. He made an initial statement that was very controversial, He was called out on that and as far as I can see nobody has attacked him but have just disagreed with him. Then several comments later said he had depression, I cannot see anything that suggests he has been attacked and just because Somebody has the same condition doesn't mean they can't be disagreed with. "
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"Yes I suffer from depression Do I believe all the celebs claims. No I don't. Is my point of view Controversial yes. Did I specifically attack certain celebs. No I didn't. Do I care that my comments upset people. No because right or wrong we are all entitled to our own opinions So doesn't that mean that it's wrong to dismiss opinions that differ from yours on the grounds of political correctness?" I said that my own comment was not politically correct. I didn't say that about anyone else's nor did I dismiss their claims | |||
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"Yes I suffer from depression Do I believe all the celebs claims. No I don't. Is my point of view Controversial yes. Did I specifically attack certain celebs. No I didn't. Do I care that my comments upset people. No because right or wrong we are all entitled to our own opinions So doesn't that mean that it's wrong to dismiss opinions that differ from yours on the grounds of political correctness? I said that my own comment was not politically correct. I didn't say that about anyone else's nor did I dismiss their claims " Your comment was nothing to do with being politically correct for the 2nd time. You posted an opinion. People disagreed. That's the point of a forum Feel like the thread is being completely derailed. | |||
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"Yes I’m gonna get shot down in flames by the woke brigade but why are so my celebrities suddenly telling us about the battle with depression suicide thoughts etc, nobody would dare question if it’s true or not and they get much wanted press attention!!" Celebrities are people too. They're not immune for mental health problems. | |||
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"Yes I suffer from depression Do I believe all the celebs claims. No I don't. Is my point of view Controversial yes. Did I specifically attack certain celebs. No I didn't. Do I care that my comments upset people. No because right or wrong we are all entitled to our own opinions So doesn't that mean that it's wrong to dismiss opinions that differ from yours on the grounds of political correctness? I said that my own comment was not politically correct. I didn't say that about anyone else's nor did I dismiss their claims Your comment was nothing to do with being politically correct for the 2nd time. You posted an opinion. People disagreed. That's the point of a forum Feel like the thread is being completely derailed." Agreed. | |||
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"Yes I’m gonna get shot down in flames by the woke brigade but why are so my celebrities suddenly telling us about the battle with depression suicide thoughts etc, nobody would dare question if it’s true or not and they get much wanted press attention!!" Oh no..... I've been called woke.... Whatever shall I do?! 
Why shouldn't they speak out a out it? People have the misguided perception that if you have fame and fortune you've got everything you should ever want and couldn't possibly experience depressions or suicidal thoughts. It's ridiculous.
A lot of people look up to celebrities regardless of how you feel about them and so for some to see that someone who they think is 'perfect' actually have the same thoughts and feelings as them can encourage people to try to get help (whatever little help there is available right now). How can anyone think that is a bad thing? Woke or not. | |||
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"And some people.. celebrity or not will use it to attention seek.. how do we know who is fake.." So because you think some are faking we should believe no one? Who is qualified to judge from a far who is telling the truth about it or not? Do those who shout loudly about celebrities faking it do the same to family avd friends? | |||
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"And some people.. celebrity or not will use it to attention seek.. how do we know who is fake.. So because you think some are faking we should believe no one? Who is qualified to judge from a far who is telling the truth about it or not? Do those who shout loudly about celebrities faking it do the same to family avd friends? " Well it's one thing having issues, it's one thing to attention seek and another entirely to lecture people who do not want to be lectured... | |||
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"And some people.. celebrity or not will use it to attention seek.. how do we know who is fake.. So because you think some are faking we should believe no one? Who is qualified to judge from a far who is telling the truth about it or not? Do those who shout loudly about celebrities faking it do the same to family avd friends? Well it's one thing having issues, it's one thing to attention seek and another entirely to lecture people who do not want to be lectured..." Who's lecturing? Why post on a thread if you don't want people to respond to it? Why ignore the points raised completely? I think we know. | |||
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"Yes I’m gonna get shot down in flames by the woke brigade but why are so my celebrities suddenly telling us about the battle with depression suicide thoughts etc, nobody would dare question if it’s true or not and they get much wanted press attention!! Woke brigade
Maybe they’re just people who care and why would you question it anyway. How would you decide what’s going on in someone else’s head or life ?
Someone says their struggling I’d think the majority of the time, it’s true.
Try a bit of empathy Op it’s a great attribute.
How do you know that the OP isn't suffering from depression and that this thread is their way of coping?
#bekind "Then let’s never have a discussion over any divisive comment, just on the off chance that person is suffering some kind of mental health illness. Also using ‘woke’ in a comment and actually admitting they may be shot down about their post, is clearly asking for people to give feedback that they know will challenge their initial thoughts on mental illness with celebrities. And finally I am ‘kind’ so don’t patronise me with your #bekind dig, the phrase ‘snowflake and woke’ affects my mental health so I’ll carry on calling out anyone using it. Especially if they decide to start a thread that can belittle other people’s suffering, just because they’re in the public eye. | |||
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"Yes I’m gonna get shot down in flames by the woke brigade but why are so my celebrities suddenly telling us about the battle with depression suicide thoughts etc, nobody would dare question if it’s true or not and they get much wanted press attention!!" I would hope that if I suddenly found myself with a platform I would use it to shine a spotlight on things that matter, mental health being one of them. If talking about it brings a level of acceptance and an acknowledgement that it's not something to be ashamed of then maybe that will help someone else to seek help in a dark hour. I don't give a shit if someone is jumping on the bandwagon or just doing it for the attention. I refuse to slate anyone opening up such a conversation, because although the celeb in question won't see me dismissing them as an attention whore, maybe a loved one is going through a tough time and that dismissive comment is the one that stops them speaking up. | |||
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"The lack of empathy on here is really something Yep "This is one of the reasons people still dont speak about it as well, general lack of empathy towards them and what they are going through from small minority. | |||
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"I’m struggling to put into words how shitty this thread has made me feel. Are celebrities not normal humans in some way? Is raising awareness not a positive thing? Is it not good to talk anymore? Is it really ok not to be ok? As someone who did reach out and did receive an ignorant response of ‘I don’t understand what you have to be miserable about’ and who was questioned like I was putting someone out by having a mental illness I can’t tell you how damaging this is. I’m very lucky to be alive, in spite of some people around me. The mental health of another person should never be up for discussion. If someone says they’re suffering, for the love of god believe them. " there are alot of depressing responses on this thread and for a few reasons i was feeling thoroughly down about the forum at the start of the week, but there is also lots of positivity in this thread and some others which i am trying to keep my focus on - people are not accepting the negative behaviour, they are sparking out against it which is great and I’ve even seen some late night threads of people reaching out for help that are hugely positive well done for reaching out for the help you needed and dont let some negative experience stop you from doing so again | |||
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"I’m struggling to put into words how shitty this thread has made me feel. Are celebrities not normal humans in some way? Is raising awareness not a positive thing? Is it not good to talk anymore? Is it really ok not to be ok? As someone who did reach out and did receive an ignorant response of ‘I don’t understand what you have to be miserable about’ and who was questioned like I was putting someone out by having a mental illness I can’t tell you how damaging this is. I’m very lucky to be alive, in spite of some people around me. The mental health of another person should never be up for discussion. If someone says they’re suffering, for the love of god believe them. " Hence my very first post in this thread. People are told to shut up and be happy. Ask for help and get nothing. People don't care. Some do care but I guess it depends who is asking for help. | |||
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"Why is it that we only ever claim that somebody is making things out to be worse than they are or attention seeking when it comes to mental health. I've never seen somebody say well you say you've got cancer but is it really that bad? Just snap out of it, Well they've got everything in life they've got a nice life fame and wealth so their cancer isn’t as valid as mine or the person over there. " you are so right-
similar to things like well i experienced it and i was fine - would you tell a lactose intolerant person to just eat the cheese because your stomach handles it fine?
its not a justification for it but i think some explanation is people find it hard to empathise with what they cannot relate to or see with their own eyes. so the visible unwell vs invisible unwell as you do see similar about people who have chronic pain or illness but function well day to day
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"Can’t say I’ve felt mental illness needs even more publicity from any quarter as it’s been a “hot” topic for the last few years on mainstream media! Not sure that celebrity “revelations” add much to the debate and, personally, if I had such an issue my first (and only?) reaction would be to seek professional help not bare all on social media. What possible use can that be to the celebrity themself other than open themselves up to attack and/or sympathy from all quarters? " This very much sounds like we should all just shut up and not talk about it. An arm also not sure how you can say it doesn't need any more publicity when suicide rates have increased by 5% in the last year and people needing hospital treatment for self inflicted injury is higher than its ever been. Comments like yours are exactly the reason why we do need to keep talking about it and the reason why it needs to be kept in the public eye. | |||
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"I think the more it's spoken about then the less shame and stigma that surrounds the subject so I have no problem with people talking about it, especially when it has been top of the headlines lately with Megan. It's a good reason to bring light to the subject I suppose. Do I think every person who posts about depression actually suffers? Honestly, no, I'm sure people lie for attention, sympathy or whatever. I know people who have lied for attention. But who am I to invalidate them just because I might have my doubts? I never truly know what someone is going through, so I'll support and encourage them for being open, as it would be so easy to dismiss them and that could cost them their life. " I wholly agree with your comment However I would argue that if somebody feels the need to lie and make out they are suffering when they are not for attention then I would strongly suggest that something isn't right with them. | |||
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"I think by the very nature of them being a celebrity shows they need external approval which in turn would mean a more delicate mental reaction to rejection maybe? The more we talk about bad mental health the less of a stigma it will be .... it’s not a trend or a fad it’s just not getting swept under the carpet as much. " That’s old fashioned thinking. Along with the idea that celebrities enjoy being famous. I’m sure a tiny minority of them like fame. Most don’t. All the people I know didn’t want fame or approval. They wanted success in their field, and they got it. Fame is just a bad side effect that comes along with success. unfortunately a lot of people think famous people have perfect lives and that it’s ok to bully them. The truth is much different. | |||
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"The idea that ordinary people create these celebrities by being interested in them is depressing enough as far as im concerned. I can honestly say that as I don't watch mainstream TV or read newspapers or magazines I just don't hear anything about these people so don't care a toss about them at all. " What a wonderfully empathetic soul | |||
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"The idea that ordinary people create these celebrities by being interested in them is depressing enough as far as im concerned. I can honestly say that as I don't watch mainstream TV or read newspapers or magazines I just don't hear anything about these people so don't care a toss about them at all. " Just because you can't see somebody's suffering or because you don't want to see doesn't mean it's not happening it just means they are suffering alone. | |||
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"The idea that ordinary people create these celebrities by being interested in them is depressing enough as far as im concerned. I can honestly say that as I don't watch mainstream TV or read newspapers or magazines I just don't hear anything about these people so don't care a toss about them at all. " Love for all hatred for none, love the thought for others, very humble | |||
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