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"Hello There have been a few negative posts recently and snidey things said. I have been on fab a very long time, but I think the last year or so has been the hardest for many people. There were a couple of people I wanted to reach out to to say sorry if I offended or upset and I hope to meet all of you at some point at a social or a club. If anyone else feels they may not have always behaved the best, feel free to use this thread to apologise.
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"I regret nothing. " This is me too I'm afraid. If you've had it from me then you've deserved it | |||
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Her x"Lily | |||
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Hope you're doing OK OP.
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"Aw she seemed nice
She really was "Agree. Don’t think this was her first visit to Fab. Might be back. | |||
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"Aw she seemed nice
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Agree. Don’t think this was her first visit to Fab. Might be back. "I hope so | |||
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"Some people don't know the power their words can have." So true. | |||
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"If I've upset anyone it's not been intentional. If anyone has been upset but something they've been told I've said, I'd very much like it if they'd let me know so that we can talk about it and clear the air. " Clear the air??? Have you farted?  | |||
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"If I've upset anyone it's not been intentional. If anyone has been upset but something they've been told I've said, I'd very much like it if they'd let me know so that we can talk about it and clear the air. Clear the air??? Have you farted? "Not as far as I know..... but you know what the rumour mill is like  | |||
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"If I've upset anyone it's not been intentional. If anyone has been upset but something they've been told I've said, I'd very much like it if they'd let me know so that we can talk about it and clear the air. Clear the air??? Have you farted?
Not as far as I know..... but you know what the rumour mill is like "You fucking have. You big old disguster | |||
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"If I've upset anyone it's not been intentional. If anyone has been upset but something they've been told I've said, I'd very much like it if they'd let me know so that we can talk about it and clear the air. Clear the air??? Have you farted?
Not as far as I know..... but you know what the rumour mill is like
You fucking have.
You big old disguster "See.... I knew eventually the rumour would get back to me! | |||
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"If I've upset anyone it's not been intentional. If anyone has been upset but something they've been told I've said, I'd very much like it if they'd let me know so that we can talk about it and clear the air. " Can we copy and paste that to our own profiles? After the Sidney Uni Disclaimer. | |||
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"Another one forced off Fab. Well done "But I will be here to haunt you forever.......................................... | |||
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"Another one forced off Fab. Well done
But I will be here to hunt you forever.......................................... "FifY Hey Ace  | |||
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"Another one forced off Fab. Well done "Ignorance is bliss as they say. | |||
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"Another one forced off Fab. Well done "We're still standing | |||
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"Another one forced off Fab. Well done
But I will be here to hunt you forever..........................................
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"Oh god I hope she is ok, and didnt take offence, I was just mucking about!" You couldn't offend an outraged person looking for offence.. | |||
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"Another one forced off Fab. Well done
We're still standing "You've been listening to too much Elton John methininks young Lady | |||
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"I liked Lily. I also liked being oblivious of all the behind the scenes shite once upon a time. " I liked Lily too....was sad to see the post. I'd glad I remain oblivious to all the shite that evidently goes on. Jeez times are bad enough! | |||
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"Another one forced off Fab. Well done
But I will be here to hunt you forever..........................................
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Cheers for that one Bro "I am here for you. | |||
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"The ones that spout the "be kind" message are the worst....they need to take their own advice. This place is becoming a joke lately." I don't know what's gone on but I agree with what this post says. | |||
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"I liked Lily. I also liked being oblivious of all the behind the scenes shite once upon a time. " I wasn't aware of behind the scenes shit at all ... there were some intimations last week tho but nothing clear. | |||
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"The ones that spout the "be kind" message are the worst....they need to take their own advice. This place is becoming a joke lately. I don't know what's gone on but I agree with what this post says." Ditto. There are some nasty vindictive people around. Unfortunately a lie can run around the world before the truth has got it’s boots on. | |||
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"If I've upset anyone it's not been intentional. If anyone has been upset but something they've been told I've said, I'd very much like it if they'd let me know so that we can talk about it and clear the air. " I can’t imagine you upsetting anyone | |||
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"I liked Lily. I also liked being oblivious of all the behind the scenes shite once upon a time. I liked Lily too....was sad to see the post. I'd glad I remain oblivious to all the shite that evidently goes on. Jeez times are bad enough!" Lily who, sorry, I only know one lily and she’s still here | |||
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"The ones that spout the "be kind" message are the worst....they need to take their own advice. This place is becoming a joke lately. I don't know what's gone on but I agree with what this post says. Ditto. There are some nasty vindictive people around. Unfortunately a lie can run around the world before the truth has got it’s boots on. " Unfortunately these people don't see what they are doing or just don't care....hence the reason for the post. Its sad to see and witness. | |||
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"I’ve no idea what madness is going on behind the scenes but it’s very sad that people are leaving because of it. " This isn’t the first time that good folks have been forced off by vindictive people, as you know well! | |||
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"I liked Lily. I also liked being oblivious of all the behind the scenes shite once upon a time. I liked Lily too....was sad to see the post. I'd glad I remain oblivious to all the shite that evidently goes on. Jeez times are bad enough! Lily who, sorry, I only know one lily and she’s still here" So she is..I didn't check! Whoever it is..it's still a sad state of affairs. | |||
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"The ones that spout the "be kind" message are the worst....they need to take their own advice. This place is becoming a joke lately. I don't know what's gone on but I agree with what this post says. Ditto. There are some nasty vindictive people around. Unfortunately a lie can run around the world before the truth has got it’s boots on. Unfortunately these people don't see what they are doing or just don't care....hence the reason for the post. Its sad to see and witness." I think you give ‘them’ too much credit, often they know exactly what they’re doing. It’s part of the reason why myself and my lady spent the last year offline | |||
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"Another one forced off Fab. Well done
We're still standing
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"Well if it's not Lily , who is it ?" Good question! | |||
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"What did she post that offended people? " Probably a no when it should have been yes or in when it should have been out or fuck when it should have been kiss...... Something world shattering like that. | |||
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"What did she post that offended people? Probably a no when it should have been yes or in when it should have been out or fuck when it should have been kiss...... Something world shattering like that. " Snog | |||
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"What did she post that offended people? Probably a no when it should have been yes or in when it should have been out or fuck when it should have been kiss...... Something world shattering like that. " Hug | |||
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As I have NO idea who this is and NO idea what's gone on i'll nip n see what the 'others' are doing ... | |||
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"The ones that spout the "be kind" message are the worst....they need to take their own advice. This place is becoming a joke lately. I don't know what's gone on but I agree with what this post says. Ditto. There are some nasty vindictive people around. Unfortunately a lie can run around the world before the truth has got it’s boots on. Unfortunately these people don't see what they are doing or just don't care....hence the reason for the post. Its sad to see and witness. I think you give ‘them’ too much credit, often they know exactly what they’re doing. It’s part of the reason why myself and my lady spent the last year offline" This could be true. I've been dragged into drama before and left because of it.. Now I'm back, I do my own thing and stay away from the clique. | |||
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"Well if it's not Lily , who is it ? Good question!" It was ~Lily~ can’t remember her previous user name Never good to see individuals leave because they feel they have to, due to backstage remarks. | |||
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"Well if it's not Lily , who is it ?" That's for me to know, and you to find out  | |||
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"I was certain I saw -lily- Do I need new glasses?" you don't know your dashes from your tildas apparently ...... go to the naughty step PP. | |||
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"Well if it's not Lily , who is it ? That's for me to know, and you to find out "Do you KNOW you little sneak ? | |||
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"Dammit. I was hoping this was a certain forum troll. Sorry to see Lily go. " Soz. Still here x | |||
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"I was certain I saw -lily- Do I need new glasses? you don't know your dashes from your tildas apparently ...... go to the naughty step PP." I think I'll be heading there soon anyway | |||
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"Dammit. I was hoping this was a certain forum troll. Sorry to see Lily go. Soz. Still here x" . Your the oracle and know everything so you must know who it is..... | |||
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"I know the name but I don't recall her postings! It's a shame another person has left under these circumstances. I witnessed some poor soul being interrogated today. I honestly think some people don't actually realise they are bullies? They really lay into people who are not quite as confident as some, they show a little weakness. It's quite sad really but it's been here since I joined. " Interrogated about what? | |||
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"Well if it's not Lily , who is it ? That's for me to know, and you to find out
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"Well if it's not Lily , who is it ? That's for me to know, and you to find out
Do you KNOW you little sneak ?
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"Anyways, from where I'm sitting and reading it still looks pretty grim. Rather than listening to rumours or all that bullshit how about growing some cahoonas and actually talking to people instead of bringing it here. I'm fucked off. I've had enough. I'm fucking sick of it. Whoever has a problem with who just goddam talk. " Well said Peach | |||
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"Anyways, from where I'm sitting and reading it still looks pretty grim. Rather than listening to rumours or all that bullshit how about growing some cahoonas and actually talking to people instead of bringing it here. I'm fucked off. I've had enough. I'm fucking sick of it. Whoever has a problem with who just goddam talk. " Yep, well said. It’s so unkind and unnecessary. | |||
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"Anyways, from where I'm sitting and reading it still looks pretty grim. Rather than listening to rumours or all that bullshit how about growing some cahoonas and actually talking to people instead of bringing it here. I'm fucked off. I've had enough. I'm fucking sick of it. Whoever has a problem with who just goddam talk. Yep, well said. It’s so unkind and unnecessary. "
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"I've been hiding my profile a lot recently and actively logging out in an attempt to stay away from the site The Forums have been mine sanctuary through some pretty murky times over the last few months If I was feeling fed up, an hour here could lift my spirits I have, however, lost that feeling A few personas aside, the fun has all but disappeared and it has, alas, been replaced by snarky comments dressed up as wit, a willingness to put others down and a complete disregard for newer forumites unless they fit into the 'shaggable' category There is also thread domination by groups of forumites. I won't use the word clique, because it isn't just one group, they are more factions. They talk to each other and ignore anyone else attempting to contribute, to the degree that those people feel they have no voice and give up I can't pass this off as 'that's the way it's always been' because it hasn't I also can't excuse any Covid effect, because, if anything, this should bring us closer together as opposed to driving wedges I rarely post anywhere but the lounge, so I am not including politics or virus forums in this analogy Sometimes when you're in it, you can't see the destruction because you're in the thick of it Sometimes you need to sit at the edge to see things objectively " | |||
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"Anyways, from where I'm sitting and reading it still looks pretty grim. Rather than listening to rumours or all that bullshit how about growing some cahoonas and actually talking to people instead of bringing it here. I'm fucked off. I've had enough. I'm fucking sick of it. Whoever has a problem with who just goddam talk. Yep, well said. It’s so unkind and unnecessary.
It was Lily. She’s fine."Glad to hear she is ok Inca | |||
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"I've been hiding my profile a lot recently and actively logging out in an attempt to stay away from the site The Forums have been mine sanctuary through some pretty murky times over the last few months If I was feeling fed up, an hour here could lift my spirits I have, however, lost that feeling A few personas aside, the fun has all but disappeared and it has, alas, been replaced by snarky comments dressed up as wit, a willingness to put others down and a complete disregard for newer forumites unless they fit into the 'shaggable' category There is also thread domination by groups of forumites. I won't use the word clique, because it isn't just one group, they are more factions. They talk to each other and ignore anyone else attempting to contribute, to the degree that those people feel they have no voice and give up I can't pass this off as 'that's the way it's always been' because it hasn't I also can't excuse any Covid effect, because, if anything, this should bring us closer together as opposed to driving wedges I rarely post anywhere but the lounge, so I am not including politics or virus forums in this analogy Sometimes when you're in it, you can't see the destruction because you're in the thick of it Sometimes you need to sit at the edge to see things objectively " xx | |||
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"I've been hiding my profile a lot recently and actively logging out in an attempt to stay away from the site The Forums have been mine sanctuary through some pretty murky times over the last few months If I was feeling fed up, an hour here could lift my spirits I have, however, lost that feeling A few personas aside, the fun has all but disappeared and it has, alas, been replaced by snarky comments dressed up as wit, a willingness to put others down and a complete disregard for newer forumites unless they fit into the 'shaggable' category There is also thread domination by groups of forumites. I won't use the word clique, because it isn't just one group, they are more factions. They talk to each other and ignore anyone else attempting to contribute, to the degree that those people feel they have no voice and give up I can't pass this off as 'that's the way it's always been' because it hasn't I also can't excuse any Covid effect, because, if anything, this should bring us closer together as opposed to driving wedges I rarely post anywhere but the lounge, so I am not including politics or virus forums in this analogy Sometimes when you're in it, you can't see the destruction because you're in the thick of it Sometimes you need to sit at the edge to see things objectively " xx | |||
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"Anyways, from where I'm sitting and reading it still looks pretty grim. Rather than listening to rumours or all that bullshit how about growing some cahoonas and actually talking to people instead of bringing it here. I'm fucked off. I've had enough. I'm fucking sick of it. Whoever has a problem with who just goddam talk. Yep, well said. It’s so unkind and unnecessary.
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"I've been hiding my profile a lot recently and actively logging out in an attempt to stay away from the site The Forums have been mine sanctuary through some pretty murky times over the last few months If I was feeling fed up, an hour here could lift my spirits I have, however, lost that feeling A few personas aside, the fun has all but disappeared and it has, alas, been replaced by snarky comments dressed up as wit, a willingness to put others down and a complete disregard for newer forumites unless they fit into the 'shaggable' category There is also thread domination by groups of forumites. I won't use the word clique, because it isn't just one group, they are more factions. They talk to each other and ignore anyone else attempting to contribute, to the degree that those people feel they have no voice and give up I can't pass this off as 'that's the way it's always been' because it hasn't I also can't excuse any Covid effect, because, if anything, this should bring us closer together as opposed to driving wedges I rarely post anywhere but the lounge, so I am not including politics or virus forums in this analogy Sometimes when you're in it, you can't see the destruction because you're in the thick of it Sometimes you need to sit at the edge to see things objectively " I think it's always been like this. The difference is the people who filled in the gaps have disappeared so it's just more obvious. | |||
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"I've been hiding my profile a lot recently and actively logging out in an attempt to stay away from the site The Forums have been mine sanctuary through some pretty murky times over the last few months If I was feeling fed up, an hour here could lift my spirits I have, however, lost that feeling A few personas aside, the fun has all but disappeared and it has, alas, been replaced by snarky comments dressed up as wit, a willingness to put others down and a complete disregard for newer forumites unless they fit into the 'shaggable' category There is also thread domination by groups of forumites. I won't use the word clique, because it isn't just one group, they are more factions. They talk to each other and ignore anyone else attempting to contribute, to the degree that those people feel they have no voice and give up I can't pass this off as 'that's the way it's always been' because it hasn't I also can't excuse any Covid effect, because, if anything, this should bring us closer together as opposed to driving wedges I rarely post anywhere but the lounge, so I am not including politics or virus forums in this analogy Sometimes when you're in it, you can't see the destruction because you're in the thick of it Sometimes you need to sit at the edge to see things objectively I think it's always been like this. The difference is the people who filled in the gaps have disappeared so it's just more obvious. " See, I don't think it was like this before Unless we were (historically) part of the issue and didn't see it Were we The Hindenbergs? Have we too been replaced by Hitlers? | |||
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"Anyways, from where I'm sitting and reading it still looks pretty grim. Rather than listening to rumours or all that bullshit how about growing some cahoonas and actually talking to people instead of bringing it here. I'm fucked off. I've had enough. I'm fucking sick of it. Whoever has a problem with who just goddam talk. Yep, well said. It’s so unkind and unnecessary.
It was Lily. She’s fine.
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"I haven't seen it like this for many many many years. It's like a social-media sob off all the time. " You OK Hun? | |||
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"I've been hiding my profile a lot recently and actively logging out in an attempt to stay away from the site The Forums have been mine sanctuary through some pretty murky times over the last few months If I was feeling fed up, an hour here could lift my spirits I have, however, lost that feeling A few personas aside, the fun has all but disappeared and it has, alas, been replaced by snarky comments dressed up as wit, a willingness to put others down and a complete disregard for newer forumites unless they fit into the 'shaggable' category There is also thread domination by groups of forumites. I won't use the word clique, because it isn't just one group, they are more factions. They talk to each other and ignore anyone else attempting to contribute, to the degree that those people feel they have no voice and give up I can't pass this off as 'that's the way it's always been' because it hasn't I also can't excuse any Covid effect, because, if anything, this should bring us closer together as opposed to driving wedges I rarely post anywhere but the lounge, so I am not including politics or virus forums in this analogy Sometimes when you're in it, you can't see the destruction because you're in the thick of it Sometimes you need to sit at the edge to see things objectively " Couldn't agree more | |||
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"I haven't seen it like this for many many many years. It's like a social-media sob off all the time. " It’s a bit wet | |||
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"I've been hiding my profile a lot recently and actively logging out in an attempt to stay away from the site The Forums have been mine sanctuary through some pretty murky times over the last few months If I was feeling fed up, an hour here could lift my spirits I have, however, lost that feeling A few personas aside, the fun has all but disappeared and it has, alas, been replaced by snarky comments dressed up as wit, a willingness to put others down and a complete disregard for newer forumites unless they fit into the 'shaggable' category There is also thread domination by groups of forumites. I won't use the word clique, because it isn't just one group, they are more factions. They talk to each other and ignore anyone else attempting to contribute, to the degree that those people feel they have no voice and give up I can't pass this off as 'that's the way it's always been' because it hasn't I also can't excuse any Covid effect, because, if anything, this should bring us closer together as opposed to driving wedges I rarely post anywhere but the lounge, so I am not including politics or virus forums in this analogy Sometimes when you're in it, you can't see the destruction because you're in the thick of it Sometimes you need to sit at the edge to see things objectively " I did that and got slamed for it, so don't really take part anymore. There are few posts around on the subject so leave the discussions now for others. | |||
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"Dammit. I was hoping this was a certain forum troll. Sorry to see Lily go. Soz. Still here x" Nooo. Not you. Xx | |||
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"I haven't seen it like this for many many many years. It's like a social-media sob off all the time. You OK Hun? " Yes thanks Bussy. x x | |||
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"I’ve no idea what madness is going on behind the scenes but it’s very sad that people are leaving because of it. " This. No idea what's being going on and more to the point I don't want to know, sadly though people leave here because of how they are treated on the forums as well as behind the scene stuff. It sickens me. People can be so hurtful to others without giving them a 2nd thought. Grrrrrr, I find it damn right annoying and very sad. Hope whoever has left is ok. | |||
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"6 of 1 and half a dozen of the other. Everyone thinks they are in the right and nothing ever gets resolved. If I have an issue I take it direct to the person, but I only do it once. My apologies only come when deserved and not out of pressure to say it. It is a shame anybody feels they have to leave because of chinese whispers and silly tit-for-tat games x" Totally agree with this. | |||
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"I haven't been around much and no longer know many of the apparent forum faves. Reading this thread, and not knowing the backstory, it reads like threads I've seen and contributed to in the past. Bussy, you say the pandemic isn't a reason, and it isn't, but I do think Lockdown III is the most exhausting, frustrating and fractious. I'm spending a lot of my work life feeling like I'm in a forum thread with people griping about each other to me. I don't know who the OP was but if they're recidivists they'll be back in a few weeks. If not, or this is the final break, I hope they're not checking the forum from afar and can let it all go and heal. And, as it's the thread for it, if I have offended anyone I'm sorry you have experienced me in that way. (I think that the non-apology-apology way, isn't it?) " I agree with you on this | |||
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"I've been hiding my profile a lot recently and actively logging out in an attempt to stay away from the site The Forums have been mine sanctuary through some pretty murky times over the last few months If I was feeling fed up, an hour here could lift my spirits I have, however, lost that feeling A few personas aside, the fun has all but disappeared and it has, alas, been replaced by snarky comments dressed up as wit, a willingness to put others down and a complete disregard for newer forumites unless they fit into the 'shaggable' category There is also thread domination by groups of forumites. I won't use the word clique, because it isn't just one group, they are more factions. They talk to each other and ignore anyone else attempting to contribute, to the degree that those people feel they have no voice and give up I can't pass this off as 'that's the way it's always been' because it hasn't I also can't excuse any Covid effect, because, if anything, this should bring us closer together as opposed to driving wedges I rarely post anywhere but the lounge, so I am not including politics or virus forums in this analogy Sometimes when you're in it, you can't see the destruction because you're in the thick of it Sometimes you need to sit at the edge to see things objectively " I agree Bussy. I've been using the forums for a long time now - the past couple of months I've experienced and read the unpleasant side to Fab and I can't say it's one I'm particularly fond of. If I do have an issue or want to clear the air I go direct to the person. Sadly toxicity is becoming more and more widespread on somewhere that's meant to be fun and escape for us all. For those I have genuinely upset, I'm going to borrow Lickety's words and say I'm sorry you got that side of me. What I can never agree with is anyone being bullied off of here - I'm hoping one day soon it will go back to being the slightly cliquey but at least reasonably welcoming place it was before. Lockdown is easing and with that I think a lot of people will be less frustrated/lonely/bored. | |||
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"6 of 1 and half a dozen of the other. Everyone thinks they are in the right and nothing ever gets resolved. If I have an issue I take it direct to the person, but I only do it once. My apologies only come when deserved and not out of pressure to say it. It is a shame anybody feels they have to leave because of chinese whispers and silly tit-for-tat games x Totally agree with this. " Which part .... ? I couldn't agree less with the sentiment of the first paragraph ... | |||
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"6 of 1 and half a dozen of the other. Everyone thinks they are in the right and nothing ever gets resolved. If I have an issue I take it direct to the person, but I only do it once. My apologies only come when deserved and not out of pressure to say it. It is a shame anybody feels they have to leave because of chinese whispers and silly tit-for-tat games x Totally agree with this. Which part .... ? I couldn't agree less with the sentiment of the first paragraph ... " You dont have to agree It was my opinion. | |||
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"6 of 1 and half a dozen of the other. Everyone thinks they are in the right and nothing ever gets resolved. If I have an issue I take it direct to the person, but I only do it once. My apologies only come when deserved and not out of pressure to say it. It is a shame anybody feels they have to leave because of chinese whispers and silly tit-for-tat games x Totally agree with this. Which part .... ? I couldn't agree less with the sentiment of the first paragraph ... " I read that as meaning that there are two sides to every story and that’s definitely true. I think that it’s a failing that we oftff egg n demonise people and make saints of those we consider the victim, not just on here but in the world in general. I think that lockdown has hit people far harder than we freely admit and whilst an individual might disagree, they can’t speak for everyone or the deeper consequences. It’s not just on here but SM as a whole is filled with more resentment, rage and frustration than I’ve ever seen it. It’s overly simplistic to say ‘be kind’ and disingenuous to expect it but tempers are frayed, emotions are high and frustrations are being worn on sleeves. I guess that this is symptomatic of that | |||
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