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"I enjoy reading about Elizabeth 1st her life and times and Tudor history in general. I also have a keen interest in pre-history in particular the bronze age. Nice. Bronze Age was very interesting to be fair. I’ve recently started educating myself on more modern times. But always enjoy reading about rise and fall of empires. " Ok, any particular empire? | |||
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"Egyptians and pyramids fascinating how they built them.....or did they have help from outer space...... " A Mars a day? | |||
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"I enjoy reading about Elizabeth 1st her life and times and Tudor history in general. I also have a keen interest in pre-history in particular the bronze age. Nice. Bronze Age was very interesting to be fair. I’ve recently started educating myself on more modern times. But always enjoy reading about rise and fall of empires. Ok, any particular empire? " Right now it has to be the link between Egyptian and Roman Empire how the power shift occurred and how the Egyptians lost power and how they were concurred. | |||
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"So so many. I'm fascinated with all of WW2 particularly how each oart of the world have a different start date for it. I'm obsessed with the Windrush generation and their influence on British music and politics. The battle of Lewisham / New Cross fire and lovers Rock in particular. " A lot of conspiracy theories around this and the whole Ottoman Empire as well. It’s a very interesting topic. | |||
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"I've been reading alot of alternative history, what if this happened instead of that, thrown in with some actual facts" There’s some really good people looking at what we perceive to be fact. For instance megalithic structures in turkey from an ancient civilisation that predates the Sumerians by at least 4000 years. If that’s the case it changes our whole history. | |||
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"I've been reading alot of alternative history, what if this happened instead of that, thrown in with some actual facts There’s some really good people looking at what we perceive to be fact. For instance megalithic structures in turkey from an ancient civilisation that predates the Sumerians by at least 4000 years. If that’s the case it changes our whole history. " I read about this I’m sure. Is this where they found village and all the houses has the entrances on the roof? | |||
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"I've been reading alot of alternative history, what if this happened instead of that, thrown in with some actual facts There’s some really good people looking at what we perceive to be fact. For instance megalithic structures in turkey from an ancient civilisation that predates the Sumerians by at least 4000 years. If that’s the case it changes our whole history. I read about this I’m sure. Is this where they found village and all the houses has the entrances on the roof?" It’s basically an ancient temple site. The top layer (the newest) is carbon dated around 13,000 years ago. They’ve used ground penetrating radar and the top layer is only the start. There’s temples etc underneath that layer that go back even further. It’s called gobekli tepe if you want to have a look yourself. | |||
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"I've been reading alot of alternative history, what if this happened instead of that, thrown in with some actual facts There’s some really good people looking at what we perceive to be fact. For instance megalithic structures in turkey from an ancient civilisation that predates the Sumerians by at least 4000 years. If that’s the case it changes our whole history. I read about this I’m sure. Is this where they found village and all the houses has the entrances on the roof? It’s basically an ancient temple site. The top layer (the newest) is carbon dated around 13,000 years ago. They’ve used ground penetrating radar and the top layer is only the start. There’s temples etc underneath that layer that go back even further. It’s called gobekli tepe if you want to have a look yourself. " Watching a youtube doc on this now. Thanks | |||
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"I've been reading alot of alternative history, what if this happened instead of that, thrown in with some actual facts There’s some really good people looking at what we perceive to be fact. For instance megalithic structures in turkey from an ancient civilisation that predates the Sumerians by at least 4000 years. If that’s the case it changes our whole history. I read about this I’m sure. Is this where they found village and all the houses has the entrances on the roof? It’s basically an ancient temple site. The top layer (the newest) is carbon dated around 13,000 years ago. They’ve used ground penetrating radar and the top layer is only the start. There’s temples etc underneath that layer that go back even further. It’s called gobekli tepe if you want to have a look yourself. Watching a youtube doc on this now. Thanks " No worries! I recommend Graham Hancock. He’s done like 5 podcasts with Joe rogan. Jump on them , so good! | |||
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"I've been reading alot of alternative history, what if this happened instead of that, thrown in with some actual facts There’s some really good people looking at what we perceive to be fact. For instance megalithic structures in turkey from an ancient civilisation that predates the Sumerians by at least 4000 years. If that’s the case it changes our whole history. I read about this I’m sure. Is this where they found village and all the houses has the entrances on the roof? It’s basically an ancient temple site. The top layer (the newest) is carbon dated around 13,000 years ago. They’ve used ground penetrating radar and the top layer is only the start. There’s temples etc underneath that layer that go back even further. It’s called gobekli tepe if you want to have a look yourself. Watching a youtube doc on this now. Thanks No worries! I recommend Graham Hancock. He’s done like 5 podcasts with Joe rogan. Jump on them , so good! " I used to read a fair bit of Graham Hancock. | |||
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"I've been reading alot of alternative history, what if this happened instead of that, thrown in with some actual facts There’s some really good people looking at what we perceive to be fact. For instance megalithic structures in turkey from an ancient civilisation that predates the Sumerians by at least 4000 years. If that’s the case it changes our whole history. I read about this I’m sure. Is this where they found village and all the houses has the entrances on the roof? It’s basically an ancient temple site. The top layer (the newest) is carbon dated around 13,000 years ago. They’ve used ground penetrating radar and the top layer is only the start. There’s temples etc underneath that layer that go back even further. It’s called gobekli tepe if you want to have a look yourself. Watching a youtube doc on this now. Thanks No worries! I recommend Graham Hancock. He’s done like 5 podcasts with Joe rogan. Jump on them , so good! I used to read a fair bit of Graham Hancock. " He’s fantastic. He did a few podcasts with Randall Carlson on Joe Rogan. Carlson is an American geologist who basically backs up Hancock’s theories with plenty of evidence. Highly recommend mate | |||
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"Being born in Rome, I have a sweet spot there but I like to read about all people history to understand the present habits. I live in Manchester and I'm amazed by how these men and women became the centre of the industrial revolution. I used to read a lot of WWII and I love to look at the BBC documentaries that may look too patriotic for a non-British but show the history from a different perspective than the one I was used" What amazes you so much about Manchester being so heavily involved in the industrial revolution? Just curious | |||
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"I enjoy reading about Elizabeth 1st her life and times and Tudor history in general. I also have a keen interest in pre-history in particular the bronze age. Nice. Bronze Age was very interesting to be fair. I’ve recently started educating myself on more modern times. But always enjoy reading about rise and fall of empires. Ok, any particular empire? Right now it has to be the link between Egyptian and Roman Empire how the power shift occurred and how the Egyptians lost power and how they were concurred. " Fascinating stuff. I find the influence the Greeks had on ancient civilisations very interesting too | |||
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"I've been reading alot of alternative history, what if this happened instead of that, thrown in with some actual facts There’s some really good people looking at what we perceive to be fact. For instance megalithic structures in turkey from an ancient civilisation that predates the Sumerians by at least 4000 years. If that’s the case it changes our whole history. I read about this I’m sure. Is this where they found village and all the houses has the entrances on the roof? It’s basically an ancient temple site. The top layer (the newest) is carbon dated around 13,000 years ago. They’ve used ground penetrating radar and the top layer is only the start. There’s temples etc underneath that layer that go back even further. It’s called gobekli tepe if you want to have a look yourself. " That was really interesting, thanks I’m fascinated by the Stone Age, Stonehenge, Skara Brae, West Kennet Longbarrow, the Carnac stones, so many ancient mysterious places. How did they do it? It blows my mind. | |||
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"Brythonic history .... which oddly enough seems to be airbrushed from schools in the UK" How far does history extend back in time ? How much time have the children got in school ? Which are the most important places and times in history they should be taught and for what reason ? | |||
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"I am very interested in 20th Century history (and from the mid 19th). It's the time that Europe the world we know today was formed. It shapes many of our attitudes and institutions. Having grown up from the mid-70s, it's fascinating to understand many of the events that were talked about when I was young and shaped the world I know but had little understanding of. " I'm really enjoying 'Can't get you out of my head.' ...... the Adam Curtis 6 parter. Definitely 20th century. Political and Cultural..... a sort of how we got to where we are now our paranoias and why banks accumulated so much power... BBC originally. I watch on You Tube. | |||
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"I've been reading alot of alternative history, what if this happened instead of that, thrown in with some actual facts There’s some really good people looking at what we perceive to be fact. For instance megalithic structures in turkey from an ancient civilisation that predates the Sumerians by at least 4000 years. If that’s the case it changes our whole history. I read about this I’m sure. Is this where they found village and all the houses has the entrances on the roof? It’s basically an ancient temple site. The top layer (the newest) is carbon dated around 13,000 years ago. They’ve used ground penetrating radar and the top layer is only the start. There’s temples etc underneath that layer that go back even further. It’s called gobekli tepe if you want to have a look yourself. That was really interesting, thanks I’m fascinated by the Stone Age, Stonehenge, Skara Brae, West Kennet Longbarrow, the Carnac stones, so many ancient mysterious places. How did they do it? It blows my mind. " It’s amazing isn’t it. Like the pyramid dimensions are to the ratio of the rate in which the earth spins on its access and is aligned to true north. Ancient civilisations were more advanced than we think. All points to advanced humans way back in the human story being almost wiped out from cataclysmic events like asteroid strikes. There’s plenty of geological evidence to prove this. | |||
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"Someone above already mentioned Graham Hancock, I fucking love his shit it's so fascinating, I highly recommend watching his appearance's on Joe Rogan every episode will blow your mind, we are going to have to rewrite history because of what people like him are discovering, the episode where Randall Carlson joined them were pretty cool also." Yeah pal I mentioned all of that! I got bored at start of lockdown so binged watched them. Very interesting. | |||
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"Anything from 1800 onwards. Famous battles and not so famous ones. I've studied ww1 for years and years and consider myself a bit of an expert on it. " I find battles so hard to remember and get into. Know which battle was which, when it happened, the causes, the after-effects on both sides. There's just so much to it | |||
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"I enjoy reading about Elizabeth 1st her life and times and Tudor history in general. I also have a keen interest in pre-history in particular the bronze age. Nice. Bronze Age was very interesting to be fair. I’ve recently started educating myself on more modern times. But always enjoy reading about rise and fall of empires. Ok, any particular empire? Right now it has to be the link between Egyptian and Roman Empire how the power shift occurred and how the Egyptians lost power and how they were concurred. " I love ancient egypt & rome too, What I'd really love to knwo is where the heck all the advanced Egyptian knowledge went, especially medical. there's a scroll in new yourk with isn't far off what procedures are today, some is more advanced to the point surgeons are following their lead...obsidian scalpels = less scarring | |||
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"I'm an expert on Early Medieval English history. c410 - 1066." Are you! Respect to you. I've a few books on this period waiting to be read. | |||
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"Being born in Rome, I have a sweet spot there but I like to read about all people history to understand the present habits. I live in Manchester and I'm amazed by how these men and women became the centre of the industrial revolution. I used to read a lot of WWII and I love to look at the BBC documentaries that may look too patriotic for a non-British but show the history from a different perspective than the one I was used What amazes you so much about Manchester being so heavily involved in the industrial revolution? Just curious " I like the history of men and women that worked, the ingenuity that was used to improve the machines and the industrial processes. History is not just conquerors wars. And I'm an engineer, I like to look at the solution that they found | |||
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"I love the pre lockdown history. Did you know people used to go to a place called a "pub" and drink alcohol with friends and family?? Amazing I know!!!" That's years n years ago! | |||
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"But I do love reading about the ottoman empire. And the sacking of Constantinople and the Byzantium era." h Great period, especially the siege of Rhodes and Malta | |||
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"Do we have any history lovers. What’s your favourite historical topic?" Yes.. Modern history.. When we used to be able to meet work and have fun... | |||
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"Medieval and I have armour used to renanctment" Used to? If you fancy getting back into it, we run a small but friendly society. | |||
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"I'm very interested in history of all types but veer towards social history in particular. I find the lives of 'ordinary' people fascinating, no matter what the era, location or culture. And I especially like reading about cultures dissimilar to my own because they expand your mind and give you food for thought." I couldn't agree more | |||
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"Do we have any history lovers. What’s your favourite historical topic?" you like hash? | |||
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"I've been reading alot of alternative history, what if this happened instead of that, thrown in with some actual facts" Did that include things like?: If Hitler had won WWWII The Chinese invent glass, instead of the West If the World wars never happened Pythagorus/Hero discovered steam power and put it to good use. All these things could have happened, but something else did. | |||
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"Being born in Rome, I have a sweet spot there but I like to read about all people history to understand the present habits. I live in Manchester and I'm amazed by how these men and women became the centre of the industrial revolution. I used to read a lot of WWII and I love to look at the BBC documentaries that may look too patriotic for a non-British but show the history from a different perspective than the one I was used What amazes you so much about Manchester being so heavily involved in the industrial revolution? Just curious I like the history of men and women that worked, the ingenuity that was used to improve the machines and the industrial processes. History is not just conquerors wars. And I'm an engineer, I like to look at the solution that they found" I take it you've had a good look in the Museum of Science and Industry? Some nice examples there plus The Rocket was there last time I went. There's a bunch of other key sites nearby too, like Quarry Bank Mill, where you can explore the industrial history (in normal times!) I used to take students on tours of Manchester, taking in all the industrial revolution bits as well as earlier history. | |||
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"I love many periods of history, but have a real love for the Plantagenets." But which side are you on? The anglo saxon period is shrouded in the unknown & mythical perhaps thats why it appeals to me... | |||
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"I love many periods of history, but have a real love for the Plantagenets. But which side are you on? The anglo saxon period is shrouded in the unknown & mythical perhaps thats why it appeals to me... " House of York, obvs. | |||
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" The anglo saxon period is shrouded in the unknown & mythical perhaps thats why it appeals to me... " That's the period I'm an expert on. There is so much that is uncertain, from the Adventus, the early careers of Penda and Eowa, the circumstances surrounding the murder of Osthryth, the antipathy of Winchester to Aethelstan, I could go on. It's a fascinating age. | |||
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"I love the pre lockdown history. Did you know people used to go to a place called a "pub" and drink alcohol with friends and family?? Amazing I know!!!" Dont know if it’s true but I’ve heard they were even allowed to go out in groups without wearing a mask or washing their hands every half hour | |||
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"“Reading up on systems such as from the rise off capitalism to say socialism/communist systems or the teachings off Marx (no I’m not into socialism etc I just like to read up on various parts off history) “ It seems to be a common theme that if one reads up on Karl Marx , one then feels obliged to point out that one is not a socialist or even more extreme a communist . I’ve encountered this a few times as I have spoke to friends and colleagues regarding my interest in Cuba and in particular Guevara, whom as a person I find very interesting indeed and to some degree admire ..not least for his tenacity . I’m painted at times as a Wolfie Smith type character for showing an interest in such ..It does amaze me though at how much , particularly “ Marx is held in some type of fear ..Interesting though to hear what a non socialist , whom reads to learn and because of interest , conclusion to Marx is " The human mind or way off thinking differs some jump to conclusions or go to the nearest thought process which comes to mind instead off at times wondering what it is that particularly intrigues one to read up on it....comes down to human nature /mindset and it’s association off certain topics in life. Reading up on different social or economic systems from capitalism to socialism/communism I find educates my mind on the various pros and cons off both.. Ultimately capitalism is more successful due to its freedom off trade or ownership as compared to the latter but like anything else in life it is full off faults and down sides but the pros more out weigh the cons.. Hence forth that is reason why history has shown that capitalism has thrived more around the world as compared to communism or socialism which lets face it if it was successful or more prominent it would overshadow or be implement more across world wide nations.. I also enjoyed reading in the past about civil rights not limited to one country or group but various causes ranging from the history off it to what brought it forward and it’s effects/conclusion and the current changes which took place in part off it.. | |||
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"Being born in Rome, I have a sweet spot there but I like to read about all people history to understand the present habits. I live in Manchester and I'm amazed by how these men and women became the centre of the industrial revolution. I used to read a lot of WWII and I love to look at the BBC documentaries that may look too patriotic for a non-British but show the history from a different perspective than the one I was used What amazes you so much about Manchester being so heavily involved in the industrial revolution? Just curious I like the history of men and women that worked, the ingenuity that was used to improve the machines and the industrial processes. History is not just conquerors wars. And I'm an engineer, I like to look at the solution that they found I take it you've had a good look in the Museum of Science and Industry? Some nice examples there plus The Rocket was there last time I went. There's a bunch of other key sites nearby too, like Quarry Bank Mill, where you can explore the industrial history (in normal times!) I used to take students on tours of Manchester, taking in all the industrial revolution bits as well as earlier history." I've visited MOSI a few times. Wonderful. Never been at the Quarry Bank Mill. I'll definitely go there as soon as it will be possible again. Thanks | |||
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"Do we have any history lovers. What’s your favourite historical topic?" The Easter rising | |||
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"I've been reading alot of alternative history, what if this happened instead of that, thrown in with some actual facts There’s some really good people looking at what we perceive to be fact. For instance megalithic structures in turkey from an ancient civilisation that predates the Sumerians by at least 4000 years. If that’s the case it changes our whole history. I read about this I’m sure. Is this where they found village and all the houses has the entrances on the roof? It’s basically an ancient temple site. The top layer (the newest) is carbon dated around 13,000 years ago. They’ve used ground penetrating radar and the top layer is only the start. There’s temples etc underneath that layer that go back even further. It’s called gobekli tepe if you want to have a look yourself. " It is certainly interesting but I'm not sure in what way it changes our whole history? Certainly it is evidence of communal activity earlier than once thought. Mr | |||
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"Being born in Rome, I have a sweet spot there but I like to read about all people history to understand the present habits. I live in Manchester and I'm amazed by how these men and women became the centre of the industrial revolution. I used to read a lot of WWII and I love to look at the BBC documentaries that may look too patriotic for a non-British but show the history from a different perspective than the one I was used What amazes you so much about Manchester being so heavily involved in the industrial revolution? Just curious I like the history of men and women that worked, the ingenuity that was used to improve the machines and the industrial processes. History is not just conquerors wars. And I'm an engineer, I like to look at the solution that they found I take it you've had a good look in the Museum of Science and Industry? Some nice examples there plus The Rocket was there last time I went. There's a bunch of other key sites nearby too, like Quarry Bank Mill, where you can explore the industrial history (in normal times!) I used to take students on tours of Manchester, taking in all the industrial revolution bits as well as earlier history. I've visited MOSI a few times. Wonderful. Never been at the Quarry Bank Mill. I'll definitely go there as soon as it will be possible again. Thanks" Have a read about the Angel Meadows area of Manchester too, lots of very interesting history and places you can still wander around today, to some extent. | |||
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"I've been reading alot of alternative history, what if this happened instead of that, thrown in with some actual facts There’s some really good people looking at what we perceive to be fact. For instance megalithic structures in turkey from an ancient civilisation that predates the Sumerians by at least 4000 years. If that’s the case it changes our whole history. I read about this I’m sure. Is this where they found village and all the houses has the entrances on the roof? It’s basically an ancient temple site. The top layer (the newest) is carbon dated around 13,000 years ago. They’ve used ground penetrating radar and the top layer is only the start. There’s temples etc underneath that layer that go back even further. It’s called gobekli tepe if you want to have a look yourself. It is certainly interesting but I'm not sure in what way it changes our whole history? Certainly it is evidence of communal activity earlier than once thought. Mr" This is more than “communal activity” this is mass building on a grand scale. This predates what was originally thought to be the earliest civilisations by thousands of years. If this is the case we’ve seen how humans have advanced in the last 6000 years especially in the last 100 or so years but if there were civilisations even further back then who knows how advanced they became before a global cataclysmic event wiped them out? If an asteroid hit today who’d be the people more likely to survive? Wouldn’t be us it would be the Hunter gatherer like tribes in the Amazon etc whod have to start the story again. | |||
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"I can assure you if modern humans died off tomorrow, there's plenty in the earth or on the earth to highlight our existence. Apart from stone architecture they’d be very little. Yes they’d still be signs on 50/100 years. When you get to a few thousand years even cities would be barely visible or anything remaining that could be easily found. This also highlights the issue with a lot of our info being stored online or on “the cloud”. A lot of our knowledge is no longer printed in books or into stone etc. If there was a mass extinction this would cause serious issues. " We've built loads of metal framed buildings, metal transport things like aeroplanes, ships, cars etc. These things won't just disappear. There will always be a layer of soil that contains the rubbish we leave, much of which is not biodegradable, like plastics, metals and other artificially created materials. We sift through the rubbish heaps of Vikings, Romans etc to understand their lives and they had far less in the way of enduring material to leave. The silicone chips and rare earth elements that comprise modern electronics are also going precisely nowhere for many thousands of years (or ever, in some cases). We're leaving nuclear reactors, nuclear bombs, nuclear waste etc etc. We've left an indelible mark on the earth since, say 1945 and it will be observed long into the future of civilisation. | |||
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"What metal will be gone in a few hundred years?! It might change shape, some metals will tarnish and rust but it's not going to disappear, dissolve or biodegrade! We dig up metals from the iron age and bronze age now, almost as good as the day it was buried, especially if buried in an oxygen free environment." I’m meaning left standing. | |||
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"What metal will be gone in a few hundred years?! It might change shape, some metals will tarnish and rust but it's not going to disappear, dissolve or biodegrade! We dig up metals from the iron age and bronze age now, almost as good as the day it was buried, especially if buried in an oxygen free environment. I’m meaning left standing. " It'll eventually be buried or whatever but we dig up the remains of houses from all eras and make a bunch of assumptions about wooden postholes (after the wood has rotted away) and the like. Modern buildings are far more permanent and will definitely be observable in some form for many thousands of years. Just the foundations we dig, the massive mix of metals, brick, plastic panels etc etc. Ceramic or slate roof tiles on houses. Etc. | |||
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"What metal will be gone in a few hundred years?! It might change shape, some metals will tarnish and rust but it's not going to disappear, dissolve or biodegrade! We dig up metals from the iron age and bronze age now, almost as good as the day it was buried, especially if buried in an oxygen free environment. I’m meaning left standing. It'll eventually be buried or whatever but we dig up the remains of houses from all eras and make a bunch of assumptions about wooden postholes (after the wood has rotted away) and the like. Modern buildings are far more permanent and will definitely be observable in some form for many thousands of years. Just the foundations we dig, the massive mix of metals, brick, plastic panels etc etc. Ceramic or slate roof tiles on houses. Etc." With metal buildings without maintenance nature will take over and with rain fall they won’t last as long as you think in their current format. Structures would become compromised. It’s amazing how we are finding massive structures and agriculture thousands of years before we thought possible. Therefore it’s a possibility that human civilisations stretch back even further | |||
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"I've been reading alot of alternative history, what if this happened instead of that, thrown in with some actual facts There’s some really good people looking at what we perceive to be fact. For instance megalithic structures in turkey from an ancient civilisation that predates the Sumerians by at least 4000 years. If that’s the case it changes our whole history. I read about this I’m sure. Is this where they found village and all the houses has the entrances on the roof? It’s basically an ancient temple site. The top layer (the newest) is carbon dated around 13,000 years ago. They’ve used ground penetrating radar and the top layer is only the start. There’s temples etc underneath that layer that go back even further. It’s called gobekli tepe if you want to have a look yourself. It is certainly interesting but I'm not sure in what way it changes our whole history? Certainly it is evidence of communal activity earlier than once thought. Mr This is more than “communal activity” this is mass building on a grand scale. This predates what was originally thought to be the earliest civilisations by thousands of years. If this is the case we’ve seen how humans have advanced in the last 6000 years especially in the last 100 or so years but if there were civilisations even further back then who knows how advanced they became before a global cataclysmic event wiped them out? If an asteroid hit today who’d be the people more likely to survive? Wouldn’t be us it would be the Hunter gatherer like tribes in the Amazon etc whod have to start the story again. that is very true, most things way back when were made of bio degradable materials so its unlikely we'll never find some things, lots were using science like light bouncing off mirrors to light a room with a tiny window. I agree it will be those hunter gathers and those who carry those gene traits will recreate what gets destroys. Very much so. They probably decided against using such materials like plastic that harm the planet. If humans disappeared today everything about us would be wiped from the earth within 1000 years l apart from monuments like the pyramids etc. Modern humans have been on earth for 200,000 and we are supposed to believe that in the last 6000 we have been civilised? What’s been going on for the past 194,000 years and why this sudden acceleration? One of the reasons given for the acceleration is farming. Until you farm you you don't have spare energy for civilisations. The energy you get from hunter/gathering is what you need to survive. When you farm, one man can grow enough calories to power himself farming plus others who can do other jobs beside produce food. This gives you the ability to have soldiers, scientists, teachers, priests etc etc none of whom spend their working life finding food to eat. To decide not to use plastic because it is harmful for the planet implies knowing what plastic is and that requires equipment and artifacts that would show up in such digs. The fact we only find stone suggests there was no metal in use (even though iron rusts it would leave a trace, gold, aluminium and others would likely survive). It seems highly unlikely that a civilisation that hadn't found aluminium would know how to make (and decide not to use) plastic. Mr In which at these ancient sites dated thousands of years before what academically accepted as start of mass agriculture is evidence of mass farming. So if there was mass farming up to 6000 years before initially thought the whole human timeline changes therefore it’s not unreasonable to suggest a civilisation perhaps reached a higher level than initially thought. And when a mass extinction level event occurred (which has happened many times to the earth) very small amounts of these advanced humans survived and colonised remaining Hunter gatherer tribes left on earth. I mean us as advanced humans flying to the Amazon in our helicopters with our current tech and “magic” medicine would seem god like to these people that haven’t seen the world outside of their tribe... we’d almost be described as gods by them... but that’s a slightly different rabbit hole to go down haha If humans became extinct now in a thousand years time they’d be nothing on earth to show we were here apart maybe some megalithic structures." I doubt they would have bothered to look for oil (never mind equipment)...since it would be most likened to tar which other than a brilliant glue is dangerous so probably would have stayed away from it out of fear. the reason why they believe farming started 6000 years ago is mesa whatsitcalled is because they have traced the genetics of grains like barley and wheat and found them relating to grasses found in dig sites etc. before this point there is no evidence suggesting purposeful farming, definitely the pureing of certain grasses to produce more grains but I agree with the other post suggesting that there just maybe no evidence for this, they may have planted in certain areas knowing both them and grazing animals migrated for summer/winter basically the same as the samo still do they follow the reindeer migration using yurks, they wouldn't leave traces, same with native tipees. That may be why we aren't finding settlements as such because you'd basically be looking for toilet area and a firepit that would be used each year upon return...bit of a needle in a haystack tbh. villages and perm settlements maybe, but given how advanced the Egyptians, myan, inca etc were with medical & engineering, I doubt that the timeline is absolute. we are so far behind with natural engineering because we became so obsessed with machines and simply forgot, witch hunts, wars etc never help either. | |||
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"The Romans What have they ever done for us??? " destroyed the place...they didn't bring roads or half the shit we think they did, most has been proven to be no more than either a designed story or were just missing puzzles pieces, we have older ones discovered here in the UK, Petra was epic engineering & long before rome. | |||
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"Below is a great video by Graham Hancock about gobekli tepe and the impact it has on what perceive to be our history. Give it a watch guys and let me know what you think! https://youtu.be/LVfttDdtN2A" It is interesting, However there is the Egyptian god Thoth who is meant to have said "not all knowledge is for that of humans" and the egyptian priests were the only ones privy to information specifically relating to Thoth (knowledge, wisdom, moon, writing, magic) Now on one hand you could say they were censoring the media/information known or it could be the wisdom being kept secret to prevent the Atlantis event. we have no idea what happen to most of these very advanced societies that were completely obliterated with no apparent reason so we know it was sudden which usually means a unexpected natural event like Pompeii. even the medical knowledge the Egyptians had was lost and hidden when Rome brought their presence to close, and look what rome done to the world...they annihilated it and absolutely driven by greed and power...not people you would give scientific knowledge to. could compare it to Kim & his Nukes... Why the hell Einstein did not burn those damn plans entirely, we'll never know. | |||
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"Below is a great video by Graham Hancock about gobekli tepe and the impact it has on what perceive to be our history. Give it a watch guys and let me know what you think! https://youtu.be/LVfttDdtN2A It is interesting, However there is the Egyptian god Thoth who is meant to have said "not all knowledge is for that of humans" and the egyptian priests were the only ones privy to information specifically relating to Thoth (knowledge, wisdom, moon, writing, magic) Now on one hand you could say they were censoring the media/information known or it could be the wisdom being kept secret to prevent the Atlantis event. we have no idea what happen to most of these very advanced societies that were completely obliterated with no apparent reason so we know it was sudden which usually means a unexpected natural event like Pompeii. even the medical knowledge the Egyptians had was lost and hidden when Rome brought their presence to close, and look what rome done to the world...they annihilated it and absolutely driven by greed and power...not people you would give scientific knowledge to. could compare it to Kim & his Nukes... Why the hell Einstein did not burn those damn plans entirely, we'll never know." Geologists have dated a cataclysmic event in a asteroid strike which is precisely the date Plato states that Atlantis was wiped out. It would have caused dramatic and instant destruction for large part of the earth. Now either it’s pure chance or Plato was able to date an geological proven event 9000 years before his time. He briefly touches on it in the video. | |||
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"life after people from history channel is a good one to watch to see how long our modern structures would last....compared to those with out metal ours are just pish for longevity. rust is my arch enemy, i'm forever fighting it on my cars & no, steel will not last even a hundred years if it isn't oxygen free. the greek paladium (big one on hill in athens) was built using steel braces and it is these that rot and causes the collapses " Life After People is a brilliant series | |||
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"I actually just thought of similar advances that may have been in egypt. you know the bird in a cage thing on string (it's in sleepy hollow) well the same method can be used as a centrifuge for separating out plasma from blood and as far as we have found the Egyptians were the first to have glass so they could have made a microscope, DNA can be extracted rather easily too, alcohol and a tiny bit of heat & hey presto there the building blocks right there...could be why their civilization fell though if I go by Thoth's words & Plato's tales. some folk have a very keen eye for detail and most of their medical equipment although copper is the exact same or very similar designs to those in our operating theatres right now! who ever claimed patent on them...your a fibber unless your thousands of years old " Haha do the ancient Egyptians accept PayPal? It’s very interesting all of this. Even some materials and metallurgy in the pyramids perhaps points to use of electricity using hydro power too. History isn’t exactly what they’ve written in text books for the past 100 years. | |||
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"I actually just thought of similar advances that may have been in egypt. you know the bird in a cage thing on string (it's in sleepy hollow) well the same method can be used as a centrifuge for separating out plasma from blood and as far as we have found the Egyptians were the first to have glass so they could have made a microscope, DNA can be extracted rather easily too, alcohol and a tiny bit of heat & hey presto there the building blocks right there...could be why their civilization fell though if I go by Thoth's words & Plato's tales. some folk have a very keen eye for detail and most of their medical equipment although copper is the exact same or very similar designs to those in our operating theatres right now! who ever claimed patent on them...your a fibber unless your thousands of years old Haha do the ancient Egyptians accept PayPal? It’s very interesting all of this. Even some materials and metallurgy in the pyramids perhaps points to use of electricity using hydro power too. History isn’t exactly what they’ve written in text books for the past 100 years. " definitely they have for want of a better phrase 'white man washed' it they had canals built to transport the stones, as for a right angle look at your thumb! you can make one right there and one of the very few in nature...that is our gift. erm well I've seen hemp solar panels and batteries which are fairly simple I mean acid...hmm lemons, oranges etc, cooper, check away you go. silver nitrate for mirrors, melted silver + tea leaves. all the things we have are in nature we just lost HOW to harness them. Cannot figure the gasses in a bulb...yet..the bulb glass is easy, unless they used methane...waste bio digester that is sealed and has pipes (cane tubes maybe) to travel it through....you know same thing they are suggesting we go back to now for our energy needs. and I better stop telling secrets or Thoth will come get me...opps not until the world is less greedy & power hungry anyway | |||
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"Indeed. Pyramids themselves and how they were built must’ve have taken some ancient tech that we haven’t found traces of. To haul stones that big up that height as Graham Hancock would say “would need to be a big fucking ramp” talking miles long. I’m just looking into the Thoth texts and Hermes from the Hermetic scripts etc. Very interesting thanks for pointing me towards them. " They have just solved the stone henge theory, they were pulled on rolling logs, island sites used sea (orkney/shetland etc), tbh its all about technique and physics, i'm tiny, look like little strength but can pull 2.2t truck lol its the same if you look to Quackers, who we term as 'red necks' (cant think of a better term sorry & i do some thing they do) etc in America ask them to move a barn without machines... a whole town & a few logs will move that building no problem, we are just manually lazy. if you could secure a strong a frame structure and pulley systems (hemp ropes, wooden carved pullies, imported timber, its all just leverage. doesn't help hemp has been banned for near 100 years! need a fecking license to grow it even for the fibres and seeds, never mind the flower power medicine and soil regen properties...opps more secrets. (jeez even forgots its name there..stupid adhd) | |||
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"Indeed. Pyramids themselves and how they were built must’ve have taken some ancient tech that we haven’t found traces of. To haul stones that big up that height as Graham Hancock would say “would need to be a big fucking ramp” talking miles long. I’m just looking into the Thoth texts and Hermes from the Hermetic scripts etc. Very interesting thanks for pointing me towards them. They have just solved the stone henge theory, they were pulled on rolling logs, island sites used sea (orkney/shetland etc), tbh its all about technique and physics, i'm tiny, look like little strength but can pull 2.2t truck lol its the same if you look to Quackers, who we term as 'red necks' (cant think of a better term sorry & i do some thing they do) etc in America ask them to move a barn without machines... a whole town & a few logs will move that building no problem, we are just manually lazy. if you could secure a strong a frame structure and pulley systems (hemp ropes, wooden carved pullies, imported timber, its all just leverage. doesn't help hemp has been banned for near 100 years! need a fecking license to grow it even for the fibres and seeds, never mind the flower power medicine and soil regen properties...opps more secrets. (jeez even forgots its name there..stupid adhd) " Well that’s another rabbit hole “flower power”. Use of psychedelics in turn accelerated our growth and progression and have us art and expression and a sense of spirituality. Plenty of evidence of use of these drugs in human history like Moses and the burning bush etc. | |||
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"Indeed. Pyramids themselves and how they were built must’ve have taken some ancient tech that we haven’t found traces of. To haul stones that big up that height as Graham Hancock would say “would need to be a big fucking ramp” talking miles long. I’m just looking into the Thoth texts and Hermes from the Hermetic scripts etc. Very interesting thanks for pointing me towards them. They have just solved the stone henge theory, they were pulled on rolling logs, island sites used sea (orkney/shetland etc), tbh its all about technique and physics, i'm tiny, look like little strength but can pull 2.2t truck lol its the same if you look to Quackers, who we term as 'red necks' (cant think of a better term sorry & i do some thing they do) etc in America ask them to move a barn without machines... a whole town & a few logs will move that building no problem, we are just manually lazy. if you could secure a strong a frame structure and pulley systems (hemp ropes, wooden carved pullies, imported timber, its all just leverage. doesn't help hemp has been banned for near 100 years! need a fecking license to grow it even for the fibres and seeds, never mind the flower power medicine and soil regen properties...opps more secrets. (jeez even forgots its name there..stupid adhd) Well that’s another rabbit hole “flower power”. Use of psychedelics in turn accelerated our growth and progression and have us art and expression and a sense of spirituality. Plenty of evidence of use of these drugs in human history like Moses and the burning bush etc. " absolutely, the problem now is how they are used like to hide pains rather than to open the mind (I smoke believe it or not to shut mine up or i'll go quantum and back ) some were always meant as medicines like poppy seed morphine aka heroin or coca plants for high accents (mountain tops) probably for rare plants etc. lsd/ecstasy = cactus & many others again have medical purpose but are misused so much. then there's things like yoga/martial arts etc & consciousness ...just wow. | |||
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"Indeed. Pyramids themselves and how they were built must’ve have taken some ancient tech that we haven’t found traces of. To haul stones that big up that height as Graham Hancock would say “would need to be a big fucking ramp” talking miles long. I’m just looking into the Thoth texts and Hermes from the Hermetic scripts etc. Very interesting thanks for pointing me towards them. They have just solved the stone henge theory, they were pulled on rolling logs, island sites used sea (orkney/shetland etc), tbh its all about technique and physics, i'm tiny, look like little strength but can pull 2.2t truck lol its the same if you look to Quackers, who we term as 'red necks' (cant think of a better term sorry & i do some thing they do) etc in America ask them to move a barn without machines... a whole town & a few logs will move that building no problem, we are just manually lazy. if you could secure a strong a frame structure and pulley systems (hemp ropes, wooden carved pullies, imported timber, its all just leverage. doesn't help hemp has been banned for near 100 years! need a fecking license to grow it even for the fibres and seeds, never mind the flower power medicine and soil regen properties...opps more secrets. (jeez even forgots its name there..stupid adhd) Well that’s another rabbit hole “flower power”. Use of psychedelics in turn accelerated our growth and progression and have us art and expression and a sense of spirituality. Plenty of evidence of use of these drugs in human history like Moses and the burning bush etc. absolutely, the problem now is how they are used like to hide pains rather than to open the mind (I smoke believe it or not to shut mine up or i'll go quantum and back ) some were always meant as medicines like poppy seed morphine aka heroin or coca plants for high accents (mountain tops) probably for rare plants etc. lsd/ecstasy = cactus & many others again have medical purpose but are misused so much. then there's things like yoga/martial arts etc & consciousness ...just wow. " . It’s a war on consciousness I believe. They’d rather people get hooked on prescription drugs in order to keep us in line instead of using natural herbs etc to cure pain and aid our mental thinking. Evidence of Greeks and Romans spiking their wine and beer for this too with hundreds of substances from ergot found on wheat to magic mushrooms. Links into Thoth scripts. We’ve lost our connection to our spiritual selves and the universe. | |||
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"Indeed. Pyramids themselves and how they were built must’ve have taken some ancient tech that we haven’t found traces of. To haul stones that big up that height as Graham Hancock would say “would need to be a big fucking ramp” talking miles long. I’m just looking into the Thoth texts and Hermes from the Hermetic scripts etc. Very interesting thanks for pointing me towards them. They have just solved the stone henge theory, they were pulled on rolling logs, island sites used sea (orkney/shetland etc), tbh its all about technique and physics, i'm tiny, look like little strength but can pull 2.2t truck lol its the same if you look to Quackers, who we term as 'red necks' (cant think of a better term sorry & i do some thing they do) etc in America ask them to move a barn without machines... a whole town & a few logs will move that building no problem, we are just manually lazy. if you could secure a strong a frame structure and pulley systems (hemp ropes, wooden carved pullies, imported timber, its all just leverage. doesn't help hemp has been banned for near 100 years! need a fecking license to grow it even for the fibres and seeds, never mind the flower power medicine and soil regen properties...opps more secrets. (jeez even forgots its name there..stupid adhd) Well that’s another rabbit hole “flower power”. Use of psychedelics in turn accelerated our growth and progression and have us art and expression and a sense of spirituality. Plenty of evidence of use of these drugs in human history like Moses and the burning bush etc. absolutely, the problem now is how they are used like to hide pains rather than to open the mind (I smoke believe it or not to shut mine up or i'll go quantum and back ) some were always meant as medicines like poppy seed morphine aka heroin or coca plants for high accents (mountain tops) probably for rare plants etc. lsd/ecstasy = cactus & many others again have medical purpose but are misused so much. then there's things like yoga/martial arts etc & consciousness ...just wow. . It’s a war on consciousness I believe. They’d rather people get hooked on prescription drugs in order to keep us in line instead of using natural herbs etc to cure pain and aid our mental thinking. Evidence of Greeks and Romans spiking their wine and beer for this too with hundreds of substances from ergot found on wheat to magic mushrooms. Links into Thoth scripts. We’ve lost our connection to our spiritual selves and the universe. " that is exactly it, teach them what to think, not how to think (see that often) has been going for last 100 odd years & its easy to get people to follow when they don't know how to think for themselves. as in greek/rome were drugging folk to keep them dull? it wouldn't surprise me. exactly, we're forgot we are part of, not rulers of. world wasn't made for just us and we are supposed to look after other beings. | |||
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"Indeed. Pyramids themselves and how they were built must’ve have taken some ancient tech that we haven’t found traces of. To haul stones that big up that height as Graham Hancock would say “would need to be a big fucking ramp” talking miles long. I’m just looking into the Thoth texts and Hermes from the Hermetic scripts etc. Very interesting thanks for pointing me towards them. They have just solved the stone henge theory, they were pulled on rolling logs, island sites used sea (orkney/shetland etc), tbh its all about technique and physics, i'm tiny, look like little strength but can pull 2.2t truck lol its the same if you look to Quackers, who we term as 'red necks' (cant think of a better term sorry & i do some thing they do) etc in America ask them to move a barn without machines... a whole town & a few logs will move that building no problem, we are just manually lazy. if you could secure a strong a frame structure and pulley systems (hemp ropes, wooden carved pullies, imported timber, its all just leverage. doesn't help hemp has been banned for near 100 years! need a fecking license to grow it even for the fibres and seeds, never mind the flower power medicine and soil regen properties...opps more secrets. (jeez even forgots its name there..stupid adhd) Well that’s another rabbit hole “flower power”. Use of psychedelics in turn accelerated our growth and progression and have us art and expression and a sense of spirituality. Plenty of evidence of use of these drugs in human history like Moses and the burning bush etc. absolutely, the problem now is how they are used like to hide pains rather than to open the mind (I smoke believe it or not to shut mine up or i'll go quantum and back ) some were always meant as medicines like poppy seed morphine aka heroin or coca plants for high accents (mountain tops) probably for rare plants etc. lsd/ecstasy = cactus & many others again have medical purpose but are misused so much. then there's things like yoga/martial arts etc & consciousness ...just wow. . It’s a war on consciousness I believe. They’d rather people get hooked on prescription drugs in order to keep us in line instead of using natural herbs etc to cure pain and aid our mental thinking. Evidence of Greeks and Romans spiking their wine and beer for this too with hundreds of substances from ergot found on wheat to magic mushrooms. Links into Thoth scripts. We’ve lost our connection to our spiritual selves and the universe. that is exactly it, teach them what to think, not how to think (see that often) has been going for last 100 odd years & its easy to get people to follow when they don't know how to think for themselves. as in greek/rome were drugging folk to keep them dull? it wouldn't surprise me. exactly, we're forgot we are part of, not rulers of. world wasn't made for just us and we are supposed to look after other beings. " Oh the very opposite of dull. They’ve found ancient wine carriers and jugs from Greek times containing many different types of spiked wine many of which have been psychedelics. For instance they believe that spiked wine and beer was used at Eleusis just outside Athens where people went to “speak to the gods”. Joe rogan does a podcast with Hancock and another guy who’s specialises in this field. Really good watch. | |||
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"I love the pre lockdown history. Did you know people used to go to a place called a "pub" and drink alcohol with friends and family?? Amazing I know!!! Dont know if it’s true but I’ve heard they were even allowed to go out in groups without wearing a mask or washing their hands every half hour" and even travel to foreign beaches and have sex with selected strangers...lucky sods. | |||
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"20th century ..particularly around the nazis.Did a degree in history and 1 of the modules was about the final solution. Also Russia,the revolution,the rise of stalin etc The cold war is dead interesting too." I occasionally tinker in modern history. Occasionally | |||
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"20th century ..particularly around the nazis.Did a degree in history and 1 of the modules was about the final solution. Also Russia,the revolution,the rise of stalin etc The cold war is dead interesting too. I occasionally tinker in modern history. Occasionally " Yes and when you read about the rampage the allied forces went on regards women and the r word, following on from the liberation of Europe and the end of ww2. Absolutely shocking | |||
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"20th century ..particularly around the nazis.Did a degree in history and 1 of the modules was about the final solution. Also Russia,the revolution,the rise of stalin etc The cold war is dead interesting too. I occasionally tinker in modern history. Occasionally Yes and when you read about the rampage the allied forces went on regards women and the r word, following on from the liberation of Europe and the end of ww2. Absolutely shocking " It's hard to look at honestly, any period of history, and not get at least a little depressed about the human condition. | |||
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"20th century ..particularly around the nazis.Did a degree in history and 1 of the modules was about the final solution. Also Russia,the revolution,the rise of stalin etc The cold war is dead interesting too. I occasionally tinker in modern history. Occasionally Yes and when you read about the rampage the allied forces went on regards women and the r word, following on from the liberation of Europe and the end of ww2. Absolutely shocking " I think the Russians were quite bad but considering how much they had suffered at the hands of the nazis.. | |||
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"20th century ..particularly around the nazis.Did a degree in history and 1 of the modules was about the final solution. Also Russia,the revolution,the rise of stalin etc The cold war is dead interesting too. I occasionally tinker in modern history. Occasionally Yes and when you read about the rampage the allied forces went on regards women and the r word, following on from the liberation of Europe and the end of ww2. Absolutely shocking It's hard to look at honestly, any period of history, and not get at least a little depressed about the human condition." I find a lot of history in this country is sanitised. I'm not sure if this goes on in other countries or not. | |||
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"20th century ..particularly around the nazis.Did a degree in history and 1 of the modules was about the final solution. Also Russia,the revolution,the rise of stalin etc The cold war is dead interesting too. I occasionally tinker in modern history. Occasionally Yes and when you read about the rampage the allied forces went on regards women and the r word, following on from the liberation of Europe and the end of ww2. Absolutely shocking It's hard to look at honestly, any period of history, and not get at least a little depressed about the human condition." Talking of the human condition. I watched a film called the Stanford prison experiment based on a true story... Amazing what we can be conditioned to do in a very short space of time... | |||
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"20th century ..particularly around the nazis.Did a degree in history and 1 of the modules was about the final solution. Also Russia,the revolution,the rise of stalin etc The cold war is dead interesting too. I occasionally tinker in modern history. Occasionally Yes and when you read about the rampage the allied forces went on regards women and the r word, following on from the liberation of Europe and the end of ww2. Absolutely shocking It's hard to look at honestly, any period of history, and not get at least a little depressed about the human condition. I find a lot of history in this country is sanitised. I'm not sure if this goes on in other countries or not." Absolutely it does. | |||
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"20th century ..particularly around the nazis.Did a degree in history and 1 of the modules was about the final solution. Also Russia,the revolution,the rise of stalin etc The cold war is dead interesting too. I occasionally tinker in modern history. Occasionally Yes and when you read about the rampage the allied forces went on regards women and the r word, following on from the liberation of Europe and the end of ww2. Absolutely shocking It's hard to look at honestly, any period of history, and not get at least a little depressed about the human condition. Talking of the human condition. I watched a film called the Stanford prison experiment based on a true story... Amazing what we can be conditioned to do in a very short space of time... " For sure. A horrifying but very interesting criminological experiment. | |||
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