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"I agree. Kindness should be the default. And NSP ... you are the perfect example x" Jennie you're a gorgeous example too xx I can be a bitch, like anyone. But I do my best to keep it internal. And it's never deliberately cruel.... | |||
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"I agree. Kindness should be the default. And NSP ... you are the perfect example x Jennie you're a gorgeous example too xx I can be a bitch, like anyone. But I do my best to keep it internal. And it's never deliberately cruel.... " I once read that one should never be unintentionally rude! | |||
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"I think that the internet brings out the best and worst in people, it turns most (if not all) of us into caricatures of ourselves and can exacerbate our best and worst traits. Often people forget that there’s a living breathing human behind the words on the screen and treat them like characters in a game. Using them for attention, to vent stress, desire or bad moods according to how they feel. The internet is a place of immediacy whereas conscience can be slow" Hey you! Yay I’ve got Someone to argue with now! . Lovely to see you back! x | |||
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"It's usually a lot more about the person doing it than the person they're doing it to, even if that doesn't make it any easier for the victim. " Agreed. I was talking about this with another forumite - if we could all have a general truth session, air our grievances and leave it be, that would be fantastic. Generally if I have an issue/want to discuss something I go straight to the person. The nasty undercurrents that I've not been aware of until these past few months have made me a bit sick of it all to be honest so I'm taking a step back from various things. Anyway, I think we've all displayed less than kind behaviour on here at various times - whether that's a passive aggressive reply (I want to burn those thumbs ups at times!), a bitchy status, messages, unkind words about another... the list is endless. I think don't be deliberately unkind is a far better sentiment than be kind buuut, I'm not going to be telling others what to do. Instead I'm going to focus on self improvement, putting aforementioned actions to rest and being civil even if others are twunts. | |||
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"The world gets more toxic every year it seems. The internet has a massive part in this problem.. online problems spilling into real life and making some people less tolerant and toxic each day that goes by.. That's just my opinion " I'd agree, but I don't get why some people feel the need to create problems out of nothing. Online or offline. | |||
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"Absolutely. Had to with a few on here who were unnessaarily rude towards me. One even called me the rudest c**t on here because I didn't reply to his one message because he lived hundreds of miles from me. I come on here for escapism not to be abused. Had my fair share of that from my ex. " Same here.... this should be an escape. | |||
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"It's usually a lot more about the person doing it than the person they're doing it to, even if that doesn't make it any easier for the victim. " It really is.... but yet as you say, it doesn't make it easier for the victim | |||
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"Yes it bloody should be . Sadly not everyone is , and that makes me sad !! Being kind is not a weakness , it's a strength xx" It is. Sadly it's a strength that some people see as weak | |||
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"If you have nothing nice to say dont say anything at all comes to mind" Precisely. Yet some manage to only say the nasty | |||
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"I don't have the energy for negativity. We all have private lives with sh*t going on. But to purposely pull someone down because you're having issues is wrong and nasty behaviour. We love and it's that simple. Jo.Xx " And that's one of the reasons you're so loved | |||
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"I agree. Kindness should be the default. And NSP ... you are the perfect example x Jennie you're a gorgeous example too xx I can be a bitch, like anyone. But I do my best to keep it internal. And it's never deliberately cruel.... I once read that one should never be unintentionally rude!" There are different definitions of rude..... | |||
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"Be kind is a false sentiment and it is sad when people have to be told that I prefer "let's be a decent human"" I agree. "Be kind" can be false. But not if it's meant genuinely. Unfortunately it has been overused and become a social media tagline, which often means a thing ends up twisted into something it never was. "Let's be a decent human being" and "don't be deliberately unkind" are both better. | |||
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"I don't have the energy for negativity. We all have private lives with sh*t going on. But to purposely pull someone down because you're having issues is wrong and nasty behaviour. We love and it's that simple. Jo.Xx " | |||
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"People is people. If everyone was as arrogant and self adsorbed as me then the world would be utopia. Negativity, criticism, ridicule and insults only serve to strengthen my opinion that I’m just the greatest human being ever created. But I don’t like to mention it in case it makes people feel sad about any comparison they might make. I’m dead thoughtful like that." Well I don't know about anyone else but, I WAS having a good day | |||
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"I could have written this Posh. It does get to you. I’ve experienced this lately and it’s easy to say oh it’s just the internet. I’m pretty tough skinned but you can only take so much. I’ve decided to not bother trying to even defend the lies and bullshit because why should I? People just seem to enjoy it. Keeping a lower profile and walking away at least shows me I won’t sink to that level and hopefully people will make their own mind up about me. I’m just glad the friends who know me know me and without them I probably wouldn’t even have known what was going on and being said. Although it’s hard you really do have to think those that know me matter and those that don’t know me don’t matter. Sending hugs my darling xxxx " Love you beautiful. Stay xxx | |||
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"People is people. If everyone was as arrogant and self adsorbed as me then the world would be utopia. Negativity, criticism, ridicule and insults only serve to strengthen my opinion that I’m just the greatest human being ever created. But I don’t like to mention it in case it makes people feel sad about any comparison they might make. I’m dead thoughtful like that. Well I don't know about anyone else but, I WAS having a good day " The ooofffts should perk you up.. | |||
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"I think that the internet brings out the best and worst in people, it turns most (if not all) of us into caricatures of ourselves and can exacerbate our best and worst traits. Often people forget that there’s a living breathing human behind the words on the screen and treat them like characters in a game. Using them for attention, to vent stress, desire or bad moods according to how they feel. The internet is a place of immediacy whereas conscience can be slow Hey you! Yay I’ve got Someone to argue with now! . Lovely to see you back! x" hi Nora! Nice to see you too!! | |||
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"I don't have the energy for negativity. We all have private lives with sh*t going on. But to purposely pull someone down because you're having issues is wrong and nasty behaviour. We love and it's that simple. Jo.Xx And that's one of the reasons you're so loved " I second this..loved by me for sure x | |||
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"Absolutely. Had to with a few on here who were unnessaarily rude towards me. One even called me the rudest c**t on here because I didn't reply to his one message because he lived hundreds of miles from me. I come on here for escapism not to be abused. Had my fair share of that from my ex. " I agree with you, we come here for escapism and to talk to somebody. I am always nice to people both on here and in life, however some people are not, and that really does my head in. But sod em just don't let it get to you too much. And if it does my inbox is always open for a chat and to let off steam.. that goes for anyone.. | |||
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"I think that the internet brings out the best and worst in people, it turns most (if not all) of us into caricatures of ourselves and can exacerbate our best and worst traits. Often people forget that there’s a living breathing human behind the words on the screen and treat them like characters in a game. Using them for attention, to vent stress, desire or bad moods according to how they feel. The internet is a place of immediacy whereas conscience can be slow" So very true. Wise words as always | |||
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"People is people. If everyone was as arrogant and self adsorbed as me then the world would be utopia. Negativity, criticism, ridicule and insults only serve to strengthen my opinion that I’m just the greatest human being ever created. But I don’t like to mention it in case it makes people feel sad about any comparison they might make. I’m dead thoughtful like that. Well I don't know about anyone else but, I WAS having a good day The ooofffts should perk you up.." Yes. Who doesn't love a Sunday ooofffting | |||
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"You can't control how other people act but you can control how you respond. Those people who put out anything but kindness recieve the same in return, what you put into the universe, you shall recieve. The simplest smile to a person who you pass in the street, can be filled with so many benifits for them and you leading to a riple effect of happyness." I agree with the last part, but someone very wise has said to me on more than one occasion "bad things don't happen to bad people". And it's actually pretty true. | |||
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"I agree OP, I've never said anything unkind to anyone on fab. Even those who insult me just get blocked, no need to retort. " My thoughts exactly Kitty. | |||
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"That makes complete sense. There are people I don't like and people who don't like me, that's just harsh fact of life people need to deal with and I'm awful at faking kindness to people I don't like. So the best I can do is be civil when contact can't be helped or avoid them altogether" Wise words from one with such dodgy footwear choices | |||
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"There are some amazing people in the world. Some absolute diamonds. And a lot of them can be found right here on t'internet, and on fab. But there are some people who go out of their ways to make others' lives worse, to make them feel crappy and hurt them. For seemingly no reason. I wish they wouldn't. Because regardless of whether "be kind" is an impractical request to make of all the people all the time, surely "don't be deliberately unkind" isn't? This is a general observation, not specific to anyone on here at all. What think ye, wise Loungers?" As Mike Tyson said, people have too comfortable disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face! Keyboard worriers looking to stir things are the worst, guarantee most people who pipe up and have nasty things to say wouldn’t dare in real life face to face. That’s why I never trust a personality online until I’ve met them in person. Too easy to sound confident, funny and intelligent with time and google at your disposal | |||
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"That makes complete sense. There are people I don't like and people who don't like me, that's just harsh fact of life people need to deal with and I'm awful at faking kindness to people I don't like. So the best I can do is be civil when contact can't be helped or avoid them altogether Wise words from one with such dodgy footwear choices " Thank you, it's where I draw my powers from | |||
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"I agree. Kindness should be the default. And NSP ... you are the perfect example x Jennie you're a gorgeous example too xx I can be a bitch, like anyone. But I do my best to keep it internal. And it's never deliberately cruel.... I once read that one should never be unintentionally rude!" Eh ? | |||
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"It's usually a lot more about the person doing it than the person they're doing it to, even if that doesn't make it any easier for the victim. Agreed. I was talking about this with another forumite - if we could all have a general truth session, air our grievances and leave it be, that would be fantastic. Generally if I have an issue/want to discuss something I go straight to the person. The nasty undercurrents that I've not been aware of until these past few months have made me a bit sick of it all to be honest so I'm taking a step back from various things. Anyway, I think we've all displayed less than kind behaviour on here at various times - whether that's a passive aggressive reply (I want to burn those thumbs ups at times!), a bitchy status, messages, unkind words about another... the list is endless. I think don't be deliberately unkind is a far better sentiment than be kind buuut, I'm not going to be telling others what to do. Instead I'm going to focus on self improvement, putting aforementioned actions to rest and being civil even if others are twunts." I'm sick of it also. And I almost deleted this morning. But that felt like the wrong answer. A mass air clearing would be ideal. But it'll never be possible sadly, not least from a practical standpoint. We just have to hope people can be as forward as you and go straight to the person. Which I've always appreciated from you. All we can do is work on ourselves. And I'm trying so hard to not let the negative from others get me down, I can get myself down enough on my own. I will continue with civility and friendliness. | |||
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"Some people are pleasant, some people are unpleasant, both here and in real life. I prefer to focus on the good people " As do I....it's hard when you're feeling down or unsure and the unpleasant thrusts itself into your path not to be affected though. | |||
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"I think general politeness goes along way even if you have no interest in taking things further. Some people seem to lack this unfortunately." I think all we can do is our best. And sometimes general politeness masks cruelty well. | |||
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"That makes complete sense. There are people I don't like and people who don't like me, that's just harsh fact of life people need to deal with and I'm awful at faking kindness to people I don't like. So the best I can do is be civil when contact can't be helped or avoid them altogether" Surely deserving kindness doesn't rest upon whether someone is liked by you or not ? If we should be kind we should be kind to all. Otherwise... why should others be kind to you... This is self defeating. | |||
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"For 95% of the time this please is great I've met someone awesome people and chatted to people who I Maybe never will meet I use this place to escape the reality sometimes as life can be tough Love the positive vibes off most people But the minority can be ass holes I've learned to inform them and get on with things good luck everyone stay safe xx" I'm so glad you find the positivity! Keep that going! | |||
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"Some people are so unhappy in their lives that they need to make others unhappy. Being kind isn't everyone's default setting unfortunately. And let's not even get started on peoples 'kind masks' " Indeed but if everyone went around telling everyone else what they thought of them, there would be a lot of tears..... If you don't like someone or what they stand for, keep away from them I say. Meeting people in person can give you a completely different outlook of an individual, it is easy to get caught up in someone's forum persona. | |||
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"Everyone has a different personality and 'be kind' can mean something different for each person. You never know who you are upsetting. " | |||
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"Some people take great pleasure from being horrible. I pity them as their lives must be so unfulfilled that they have to try and make others feel bad. Everyone can be a bitch at times but overall most of the population are decent human beings." That's so true Sparkle. Most are xx | |||
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"I hope once people can get out and the socials can go ahead etc someone of the nasty will stop but I have fanned for over 10 years and the snarly has always been there. People be cray" Also waiting patiently for socials, to meet people one on one rather than it all be online | |||
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"I hope once people can get out and the socials can go ahead etc someone of the nasty will stop but I have fanned for over 10 years and the snarly has always been there. People be cray Also waiting patiently for socials, to meet people one on one rather than it all be online" Definitely, you get a better sense of a person then and can make a better judgement. | |||
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"I’ve had the hardest 6 months of my life...made worse by those if believed to be friends totally malicious to the point I had no option but to leave my workplace. The biggest surprise has been fab...whisky for a while I stepped away (and things seem a bit different now but I think it’s more me) the biggest support I’ve had is from those I’ve made acquaintance with here...a couple I’d met prior to lockdowns and some I’ve never laid eyes on. We will get arseholes in every walk of life some because of things that have happened to them and some for no other reason than putting you down... What you (I, me, us) have been through leaves no excuse for treating others like crap. Be human or walk on by.x" That top paragraph I can totally empathise with , same with me . Its hard but believe in your own kindness and try not to react to cruel assholes , especially ones who you thought were friends , and in the long run , I believe we will be the winners in the end | |||
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"Definitely agree,there's a breed of people that think that because they can hide behind a screen it gives them the right to be an absolute twunt to people" Twunt, brilliant - how have I not heard that before?? | |||
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"Definitely agree,there's a breed of people that think that because they can hide behind a screen it gives them the right to be an absolute twunt to people Twunt, brilliant - how have I not heard that before?? " I posted the word above. Geeeez. | |||
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"I find this thread makes very interesting reading. This idea of ‘let’s be kind’. Kind meaning what exactly? Agreeing with what everyone says? Not giving your opinion? Creating an environment where a person with a different POV is vilified for sharing? Setting seeds of discord between people to divide and conquer? Being spiteful to a single person for their own good? Rumours, gossip and games of Chinese whispers are rife atm. Too many people everywhere reading the worst meaning into what others are saying instead of simply accepting another opinion and let’s not forget the key manipulators playing their games. All this me, me, me under the pretence of let’s be nice to each other. This is happening everywhere but internet fora with their faceless interactions are suffering the worse. This isn’t just a Fab phenomenon. Threads like this are just feeding the paranoia. Just my opinion." | |||
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"There are some amazing people in the world. Some absolute diamonds. And a lot of them can be found right here on t'internet, and on fab. But there are some people who go out of their ways to make others' lives worse, to make them feel crappy and hurt them. For seemingly no reason. I wish they wouldn't. Because regardless of whether "be kind" is an impractical request to make of all the people all the time, surely "don't be deliberately unkind" isn't? This is a general observation, not specific to anyone on here at all. What think ye, wise Loungers?" Interesting question. It’s a bit like a school bully situation for some - they’re complex themselves with issues and insecurities they can’t regulate or have no support etc, but that doesn’t help the victim or most perceptions of them. The rise of the internet hasn’t helped many, and the social media disease that affects many. Also, when people can act or say extreme things, the ones that feed off attention try to go a bit further. Plenty of good people out there, and the majority are still good even on bad days. But there are some where it’s a bit more complicated It’s extremely rare I engage with negative people, primarily it’s what many of them want or need and I’ve just not got an outlook to join in that conversation | |||
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"People cant take any criticism.so you end up with a molycoddled society where people burst into tears and the slightest thing. Where noone has a fault,anything they do wrong has to have a concocted medical reason that frees them of responsibility.give me intolerant judgemental people all day." There's a big difference between criticism and being downright horrid to someone | |||
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"There are some amazing people in the world. Some absolute diamonds. And a lot of them can be found right here on t'internet, and on fab. But there are some people who go out of their ways to make others' lives worse, to make them feel crappy and hurt them. For seemingly no reason. I wish they wouldn't. Because regardless of whether "be kind" is an impractical request to make of all the people all the time, surely "don't be deliberately unkind" isn't? This is a general observation, not specific to anyone on here at all. What think ye, wise Loungers?" It's just all sad, sad, sad in my view. I just stay away from the drama. | |||
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"I find this thread makes very interesting reading. This idea of ‘let’s be kind’. Kind meaning what exactly? Agreeing with what everyone says? Not giving your opinion? Creating an environment where a person with a different POV is vilified for sharing? Setting seeds of discord between people to divide and conquer? Being spiteful to a single person for their own good? Rumours, gossip and games of Chinese whispers are rife atm. Too many people everywhere reading the worst meaning into what others are saying instead of simply accepting another opinion and let’s not forget the key manipulators playing their games. All this me, me, me under the pretence of let’s be nice to each other. This is happening everywhere but internet fora with their faceless interactions are suffering the worse. This isn’t just a Fab phenomenon. Threads like this are just feeding the paranoia. Just my opinion." I do think it’s interesting too. A real cancel culture for many, or a lack of acceptance of just genuine argument / discussion. Some movements have definitely helped to increase disharmony too, which isn’t helpful. It all seems less accepting or straightforward these days too. | |||
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"I find this thread makes very interesting reading. This idea of ‘let’s be kind’. Kind meaning what exactly? Agreeing with what everyone says? Not giving your opinion? Creating an environment where a person with a different POV is vilified for sharing? Setting seeds of discord between people to divide and conquer? Being spiteful to a single person for their own good? Rumours, gossip and games of Chinese whispers are rife atm. Too many people everywhere reading the worst meaning into what others are saying instead of simply accepting another opinion and let’s not forget the key manipulators playing their games. All this me, me, me under the pretence of let’s be nice to each other. This is happening everywhere but internet fora with their faceless interactions are suffering the worse. This isn’t just a Fab phenomenon. Threads like this are just feeding the paranoia. Just my opinion." | |||
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" But there are those who want to pull you into their disputes with others. And it all comes down to the perceived power of popularity. Yeah it's nice to be popular but I'd hope I'd moved on from school and see there's so much more to life. People will always seek to pull others down, it's not right but it's a fact of life unfortunately " Veiled accusations also fits with your above comment Frida ..... if someone here has a ‘beef’ with another go and talk to them about it. Don’t throw out bullying accusations randomly in public posts! If you court gossip go and sort it out without involving everyone else | |||
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" But there are those who want to pull you into their disputes with others. And it all comes down to the perceived power of popularity. Yeah it's nice to be popular but I'd hope I'd moved on from school and see there's so much more to life. People will always seek to pull others down, it's not right but it's a fact of life unfortunately Veiled accusations also fits with your above comment Frida ..... if someone here has a ‘beef’ with another go and talk to them about it. Don’t throw out bullying accusations randomly in public posts! If you court gossip go and sort it out without involving everyone else" 100% if you're brave enough to air dirty laundry in public then you're brave enough to confront the individual. Half the time I've no doubt it's a misunderstanding, buy where's the drama in that? | |||
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"I could have written this Posh. It does get to you. I’ve experienced this lately and it’s easy to say oh it’s just the internet. I’m pretty tough skinned but you can only take so much. I’ve decided to not bother trying to even defend the lies and bullshit because why should I? People just seem to enjoy it. Keeping a lower profile and walking away at least shows me I won’t sink to that level and hopefully people will make their own mind up about me. I’m just glad the friends who know me know me and without them I probably wouldn’t even have known what was going on and being said. Although it’s hard you really do have to think those that know me matter and those that don’t know me don’t matter. Sending hugs my darling xxxx " You're worth so much more than those who spread bullshit. Rise above it, and show us your boobs | |||
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"Do people cast criticism and pull down those who they believe are inferior? Undeserving of being part of the whole community? Because they believe that they see a formerly timid and unconfident person they once saw as a target area to provoke amusement for others now growing confident and powerful beyond their control and feel the desperate urge to belittle what they have achieved to pull them back to the position of weakness where they can pose no threat? Human psychi The most powerful untamed force in existence. Once learned to be controlled is unable to be breached by anyone. " No. I don't think so. | |||
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"Do people cast criticism and pull down those who they believe are inferior? Undeserving of being part of the whole community? Because they believe that they see a formerly timid and unconfident person they once saw as a target area to provoke amusement for others now growing confident and powerful beyond their control and feel the desperate urge to belittle what they have achieved to pull them back to the position of weakness where they can pose no threat? Human psychi The most powerful untamed force in existence. Once learned to be controlled is unable to be breached by anyone. No. I don't think so. " D'you not? I dunno. I think it's possible. Difficult but possible. | |||
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"Do people cast criticism and pull down those who they believe are inferior? Undeserving of being part of the whole community? Because they believe that they see a formerly timid and unconfident person they once saw as a target area to provoke amusement for others now growing confident and powerful beyond their control and feel the desperate urge to belittle what they have achieved to pull them back to the position of weakness where they can pose no threat? Human psychi The most powerful untamed force in existence. Once learned to be controlled is unable to be breached by anyone. " This feels very directed and pointed - at who I don't know but why not message them instead? It avoids it becoming airing dirty laundry that way. | |||
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"Okay. I'll go for possibly ...... Not the psychi bit tho ..... " I imagine somewhere out there the "most powerful force" is possible, maybe we'll kept hidden away but I think it's a possible theory to assume the mind is capable of dealing with absolutely anything without causing uneccessary stress. It deals with grief in an amazingly unique way, I dare say it's possible to learn to cope and deal with absolutely anything.... Maybe. | |||
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"Do people cast criticism and pull down those who they believe are inferior? Undeserving of being part of the whole community? Because they believe that they see a formerly timid and unconfident person they once saw as a target area to provoke amusement for others now growing confident and powerful beyond their control and feel the desperate urge to belittle what they have achieved to pull them back to the position of weakness where they can pose no threat? Human psychi The most powerful untamed force in existence. Once learned to be controlled is unable to be breached by anyone. This feels very directed and pointed - at who I don't know but why not message them instead? It avoids it becoming airing dirty laundry that way." A lot has seemed pointed with some in the know and some not. But what would I know? ( rhetorical ) | |||
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"Do people cast criticism and pull down those who they believe are inferior? Undeserving of being part of the whole community? Because they believe that they see a formerly timid and unconfident person they once saw as a target area to provoke amusement for others now growing confident and powerful beyond their control and feel the desperate urge to belittle what they have achieved to pull them back to the position of weakness where they can pose no threat? Human psychi The most powerful untamed force in existence. Once learned to be controlled is unable to be breached by anyone. This feels very directed and pointed - at who I don't know but why not message them instead? It avoids it becoming airing dirty laundry that way." No, not at all. It just generalises "bullying" after all, it's age old fact that bully's thrive on belittlement and controlling attributes. Once the control is gone the bullying also disappears | |||
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"Okay. I'll go for possibly ...... Not the psychi bit tho ..... I imagine somewhere out there the "most powerful force" is possible, maybe we'll kept hidden away but I think it's a possible theory to assume the mind is capable of dealing with absolutely anything without causing uneccessary stress. It deals with grief in an amazingly unique way, I dare say it's possible to learn to cope and deal with absolutely anything.... Maybe. " I'd agree with that. However, dealing isn't always alleviating. | |||
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"Okay. I'll go for possibly ...... Not the psychi bit tho ..... I imagine somewhere out there the "most powerful force" is possible, maybe we'll kept hidden away but I think it's a possible theory to assume the mind is capable of dealing with absolutely anything without causing uneccessary stress. It deals with grief in an amazingly unique way, I dare say it's possible to learn to cope and deal with absolutely anything.... Maybe. I'd agree with that. However, dealing isn't always alleviating. " This is also true, but the mentality to drive forward is the key I think | |||
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"I find this thread makes very interesting reading. This idea of ‘let’s be kind’. Kind meaning what exactly? Agreeing with what everyone says? Not giving your opinion? Creating an environment where a person with a different POV is vilified for sharing? Setting seeds of discord between people to divide and conquer? Being spiteful to a single person for their own good? Rumours, gossip and games of Chinese whispers are rife atm. Too many people everywhere reading the worst meaning into what others are saying instead of simply accepting another opinion and let’s not forget the key manipulators playing their games. All this me, me, me under the pretence of let’s be nice to each other. This is happening everywhere but internet fora with their faceless interactions are suffering the worse. This isn’t just a Fab phenomenon. Threads like this are just feeding the paranoia. Just my opinion." You could not have said it more eloquently. And for that I applaud you, you, gorgeous lady, you. I wholeheartedly agree. | |||
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"In all my years in the Forums, this type of thread is not uncommon. It's the very reason why I will Not join groups to chat outside of Fab or groups on Cams etc. Because that, in my opinion, is where all the bitching starts. Only last week I made a comment about something, was not being rude, it was just an observation, and a few people in their little "gang" made veiled catty remarks on the thread and I also received a few shitty messages. I am not a rude person, I'm a kind and honest human being but I do have a voice and although I mainly stick to the fun and flirty threads now, occasionally I will voice my opinion on something. I do not believe that everybody on this thread is so bloody perfect that they have never made an underhand comment or a snide remark? I think that you do have to be mentally strong to participate in open Forums, maintain your integrity and walk away from the snide remarks, hold your head up high and know you are able to be the bigger person." | |||
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"Okay. I'll go for possibly ...... Not the psychi bit tho ..... I imagine somewhere out there the "most powerful force" is possible, maybe we'll kept hidden away but I think it's a possible theory to assume the mind is capable of dealing with absolutely anything without causing uneccessary stress. It deals with grief in an amazingly unique way, I dare say it's possible to learn to cope and deal with absolutely anything.... Maybe. I'd agree with that. However, dealing isn't always alleviating. This is also true, but the mentality to drive forward is the key I think" Yay we agree. Marcus Aurelius said ( only last week .... ) stop thinking that shit he said... There is nothing that can harm you but thinking it is so. | |||
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"In all my years in the Forums, this type of thread is not uncommon. It's the very reason why I will Not join groups to chat outside of Fab or groups on Cams etc. Because that, in my opinion, is where all the bitching starts. Only last week I made a comment about something, was not being rude, it was just an observation, and a few people in their little "gang" made veiled catty remarks on the thread and I also received a few shitty messages. I am not a rude person, I'm a kind and honest human being but I do have a voice and although I mainly stick to the fun and flirty threads now, occasionally I will voice my opinion on something. I do not believe that everybody on this thread is so bloody perfect that they have never made an underhand comment or a snide remark? I think that you do have to be mentally strong to participate in open Forums, maintain your integrity and walk away from the snide remarks, hold your head up high and know you are able to be the bigger person." I think we could easy guess who they were as well Dana, it’s so obvious it stands out like a sore thumb | |||
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"Okay. I'll go for possibly ...... Not the psychi bit tho ..... I imagine somewhere out there the "most powerful force" is possible, maybe we'll kept hidden away but I think it's a possible theory to assume the mind is capable of dealing with absolutely anything without causing uneccessary stress. It deals with grief in an amazingly unique way, I dare say it's possible to learn to cope and deal with absolutely anything.... Maybe. I'd agree with that. However, dealing isn't always alleviating. This is also true, but the mentality to drive forward is the key I think Yay we agree. Marcus Aurelius said ( only last week .... ) stop thinking that shit he said... There is nothing that can harm you but thinking it is so. " Excellent summary to it. | |||
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"I find this thread makes very interesting reading. This idea of ‘let’s be kind’. Kind meaning what exactly? Agreeing with what everyone says? Not giving your opinion? Creating an environment where a person with a different POV is vilified for sharing? Setting seeds of discord between people to divide and conquer? Being spiteful to a single person for their own good? Rumours, gossip and games of Chinese whispers are rife atm. Too many people everywhere reading the worst meaning into what others are saying instead of simply accepting another opinion and let’s not forget the key manipulators playing their games. All this me, me, me under the pretence of let’s be nice to each other. This is happening everywhere but internet fora with their faceless interactions are suffering the worse. This isn’t just a Fab phenomenon. Threads like this are just feeding the paranoia. Just my opinion." Perfectly stated and about sums it up for me. The only thing I'd add to that is to expand on the "kind mask" thing someone referenced earlier - those that publically display one behaviour, yet privately quite the opposite, which I find quite hypocritical and nauseating to be honest. For me personally I won't go out of my way to "be kind" to people I don't get on with, but I also won't go out of my way to "be unkind" either - I may offer a differing opinion, and have seen plenty of examples where that has been taken as "being unkind" rather than simply being accepted as a different opinion. | |||
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"I find this thread makes very interesting reading. This idea of ‘let’s be kind’. Kind meaning what exactly? Agreeing with what everyone says? Not giving your opinion? Creating an environment where a person with a different POV is vilified for sharing? Setting seeds of discord between people to divide and conquer? Being spiteful to a single person for their own good? Rumours, gossip and games of Chinese whispers are rife atm. Too many people everywhere reading the worst meaning into what others are saying instead of simply accepting another opinion and let’s not forget the key manipulators playing their games. All this me, me, me under the pretence of let’s be nice to each other. This is happening everywhere but internet fora with their faceless interactions are suffering the worse. This isn’t just a Fab phenomenon. Threads like this are just feeding the paranoia. Just my The only thing I'd add to that is to expand on the "kind mask" thing someone referenced earlier - those that publically display one behaviour, yet privately quite the opposite, which I find quite hypocritical and nauseating to be honest." Absolutely this GM | |||
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"You know without the body language and intent of what is said, it is easy [for all of us] to take things out of context... but that being said, generally low self confidence, jealousy + envy are usually the main drivers of people putting others down, making snide comments I would also add though, that we are so unique and individual, with different levels of resilience and stuff happening in our lives that we might react differently to comments at different times I see things posted in offline groups and it makes me roll my eyes - generally people are very self absorbed and drama is a drug for some, no matter the level... And there are a LOT of enablers in life To anyone feeling vulnerable .. Just remember very few people on here know who you are, or your self worth, so my advice is to ignore them and move on..the most powerful thing you can do is ignore them.. Don't feed them. Sorry that was a bit long +rambly. Hugs to anyone going through this " Bang on as always | |||
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"Someone sent me a message this morning to say they hadn’t seen me in the forums so much lately. I replied with ‘ it’s not the most exciting place to be at present - too many angry/needy people’ I can’t say I’ve witnessed anyone being deliberated horrible in posts (well except one or two MLS clashes last week) but there is an undercurrent of negativity at times. I’m sorry you feel that way Posh - you would be the last person I would of thought would attract unkind attention. Sending hugs x " You told someone to button it. She was clearly upset but she should 'shut up'. | |||
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"I stopped replying to everyone because it was too much this time. So I'm sorry if anyone felt like they hadn't been heard. What I will say though is that I'm not looking for drama. I'm not saying "be kind", and I'm not trying to create discord. I genuinely do not know why people think it's ok to be randomly cruel to others. It is something I've been mulling over for a while and I wanted to pose the question. Thank you all for adding thoughts to the post." Have you got some good friends who you trust? | |||
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"You know without the body language and intent of what is said, it is easy [for all of us] to take things out of context... but that being said, generally low self confidence, jealousy + envy are usually the main drivers of people putting others down, making snide comments I would also add though, that we are so unique and individual, with different levels of resilience and stuff happening in our lives that we might react differently to comments at different times I see things posted in offline groups and it makes me roll my eyes - generally people are very self absorbed and drama is a drug for some, no matter the level... And there are a LOT of enablers in life To anyone feeling vulnerable .. Just remember very few people on here know who you are, or your self worth, so my advice is to ignore them and move on..the most powerful thing you can do is ignore them.. Don't feed them. Sorry that was a bit long +rambly. Hugs to anyone going through this " I like you | |||
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"Agreed, it's not difficult to keep your mouth shut if got nothing nice to say!! Do you consider that comment a nice thing to say? I don't It is much better than some of the things that have been said on here... " Yeah...but it's a bit ironic | |||
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"Agreed, it's not difficult to keep your mouth shut if got nothing nice to say!! Do you consider that comment a nice thing to say? I don't It is much better than some of the things that have been said on here... " Agreed, some of the hypocrisy is laughable | |||
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"Agreed, it's not difficult to keep your mouth shut if got nothing nice to say!! Do you consider that comment a nice thing to say? I don't It is much better than some of the things that have been said on here... " Exactly, I don't see the problem with my comment and anyone that knows me will say I'm genuinely nice Including NSP | |||
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"Agreed, it's not difficult to keep your mouth shut if got nothing nice to say!! Do you consider that comment a nice thing to say? I don't It is much better than some of the things that have been said on here... Agreed, some of the hypocrisy is laughable" Miss Miss ....... Is that when people are doing exactly what they are accusing others of ?? | |||
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"Agreed, it's not difficult to keep your mouth shut if got nothing nice to say!! Do you consider that comment a nice thing to say? I don't It is much better than some of the things that have been said on here... Agreed, some of the hypocrisy is laughable Miss Miss ....... Is that when people are doing exactly what they are accusing others of ??" Yes Granny it is....And now for the important stuff, do you have more of those dumplings?? | |||
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"I stopped replying to everyone because it was too much this time. So I'm sorry if anyone felt like they hadn't been heard. What I will say though is that I'm not looking for drama. I'm not saying "be kind", and I'm not trying to create discord. I genuinely do not know why people think it's ok to be randomly cruel to others. It is something I've been mulling over for a while and I wanted to pose the question. Thank you all for adding thoughts to the post." Couldn’t agree more with this. To go out of your way to say or write something nasty is just beyond me. You are never going to like everyone or get on with them, but better to ignore and move away from them than to do or say something nasty. As said previously, if you can’t be kind, then at least don’t go out of your way to be unkind. Freya | |||
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"Agreed, it's not difficult to keep your mouth shut if got nothing nice to say!! Do you consider that comment a nice thing to say? I don't It is much better than some of the things that have been said on here... Agreed, some of the hypocrisy is laughable Miss Miss ....... Is that when people are doing exactly what they are accusing others of ?? Yes Granny it is....And now for the important stuff, do you have more of those dumplings??" I do. I'm saving them for Friday tho. Is that sad ? To save your dumplings..... | |||
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"I've been here quite a number of years and seen a lot of unkindness on the forums between women who are fighting over a man. People who like to keep a kind persona in public being shitty in private. It happens. Best thing is to not get involved. " Yep... at least I'm shitty in private too | |||
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