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"Simple...has anyone done it? How long for? Worth a try?" Fasting is basically controlling your window for eating, that’s literally all it is. Doesn’t dictate what you eat, the quality of food or if you eat in deficit or surplus, that’s still all on you, so all it’s doing is reducing when you can eat... so basically what ever your goal is, ask yourself if you give yourself a time frame to eat will everything else be in place to make it work, chances are the answer is no, because you wouldn’t be considering trying another ‘restrictive’ measure, hoping that’s the answer. I’d suggest looking at your current lifestyle and choices and measure how it fairs up against what you want to achieve and make subtle changes. Knowing how many calories you eat and what you should actually eat to achieve what ever your goal is, is the most accurate and measurable way to do things, then if you decide you want to hammer those calories in during a restrictive window have at it | |||
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"What is the definition of a fast? Nothing except water? Tea or coffee with milk ok?" It depends really. Some cut out food, some food and drinks.. others have an extensive list | |||
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"Also, to the OP - i assume you have a goal/ ambition to achieve by doing the fasting as that may be important to think about? Fasting, and then eating poor food during non - fasting days, may not be the best long term approach to better health if thats the goal overall. " I eat healthy for weight loss at the moment...but was just thinking about challenging myself | |||
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"I’ve done 24 and 48 hr fasts after a period of time for me anyway I went past the feeling of hunger. " I also think in the modern world we think being hungry is a bad feeling but if you are hungry you body might be burning fat. To hungry should be a good feeling for some. | |||
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"Also, to the OP - i assume you have a goal/ ambition to achieve by doing the fasting as that may be important to think about? Fasting, and then eating poor food during non - fasting days, may not be the best long term approach to better health if thats the goal overall. I eat healthy for weight loss at the moment...but was just thinking about challenging myself " Take up Bikram Yoga. | |||
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"I’ve done 24 and 48 hr fasts after a period of time for me anyway I went past the feeling of hunger. I also think in the modern world we think being hungry is a bad feeling but if you are hungry you body might be burning fat. To hungry should be a good feeling for some. " Yeah a lot of it is all in your head being hungry. Once you get past that initial feeling and as long as you don’t think about it you’re fine... I went 8 weeks no solid food when I was a teenager to treat a illness I had... To the OP and anyone else if you are considering doing it really research the right foods and how much to eat when you break the fast don’t eat junk your body will be craving nutrients | |||
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"Last lock down I did the 16 / 8 fast which gives you an 8hr window of eating and a 16hr fast every day. Youre asleep for some of it so it's relatively easy. I lost 35lbs (I put 5lbs back on recently I've lost the plot ) I counted calories too though Mon - Thur. I also did a 10 day water fast years ago - that was torturous! " I do this as well, it works really well for me. I have lunch around 1pm and finish eating around 9 most days. Except when I’m still finished a bottle of red, but then the next day I’ll have a later lunch | |||
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"I’ve done the 16/8 diet and lost 5 stone so far... I’ve got more to go like " Brilliant | |||
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"I’ve done the 16/8 diet and lost 5 stone so far... I’ve got more to go like " Well done you get you feel good. So do you get hungry but now like the feeling. Mind set. | |||
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"I’ve done the 16/8 diet and lost 5 stone so far... I’ve got more to go like Well done you get you feel good. So do you get hungry but now like the feeling. Mind set." No I don’t get hungry at all. It’s sort of trained my body. I’ve always made sure I’m in calorie deficit & it works. Forget the slimming clubs | |||
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"I’ve done the 16/8 diet and lost 5 stone so far... I’ve got more to go like Brilliant " Thank you xxxx | |||
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"The other consideration is happiness is linked to gut health so improving that first, before you start, is totally recommended " Definitely agree with this. There’s research to support the idea of having a healthy microbiome in your gut and the effect on things like insulin sensitivity. | |||
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"I’ve tried 5:2 but found I lost too much muscle mass. It was also quite challenging if you’re working out on your restricted calorie days. That said there’s lots of good recipes to help with the restricted calorie days. I then came across 16:8 courtesy of Martin Berkhan’s Lean Gains site. I’ve been doing it for at least 3 years now and it’s very easy imho. I mix it with HIIT and some strength training (not a great deal) and seems to work well. I have reservations about longer fasts (for me anyway) on account of what’s known as set point theory. The idea is that our bodies have a natural set point that can be varied to some degree by us, but our metabolism basically fires up or slows down to maintain the weight set point. However, when we deprive ourselves for too long, the body raises the weight set point. Consequently, what is likely to happen when someone comes off a protocol of long fasts is that the body has raised its set point so the body then tries its damnest to make you attain the heigher weight, ie you end up heavier than when you started fasting. " I’d say it’s a million times easier when you’re low carb / Keto as you’re just so used to burning body fat for energy it’s much less of a stress on / change for your body. One of the great ‘side effects’ of Keto actually, not needing to eat so you don’t recently realise when you’ve gone 14 hours! TB | |||
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"Im thinking of doing 3 day fasting....just to see if I can and what it feels like" You should, it’s good. But what’s your motivation , not for a diet thing ? Me and friend used to five day fasts, he even did a 10 day once. I result enjoyed it abs benefitted but planning it in is hard with work etc | |||
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"Im thinking of doing 3 day fasting....just to see if I can and what it feels like" For me.... First 24-48 can be hard , especially the first few times, your stomach will try and trick you into feeling hungry and you will be shedding toxins so likely have a banging headache. Day 3 is better, no hunger or headache , you will have a lot of mental energy and start thinking/pondering about all kinds of things , time slows right down because your no longer planing and scheduling around meals, snacks and coffees. Day 4 you may make big life changing decisions , day 5 again and a bit weepy emotional. When you eat you realise you can taste properly - sugars and starches in carbs etc citric acid in tomatoes , you can feel proteins in meat , you eat much smaller and slower afterwards | |||
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"Not a chance, I’ve been known to faint if I go to long without food " It’s not for everyone | |||
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"Theres no magic to it. It's just another way of restricting calorie intake by having a reduced eating window. Works for some, try it see if it works for you." It's a bit more useful than that, have a look at autophagy. | |||
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"Theres no magic to it. It's just another way of restricting calorie intake by having a reduced eating window. Works for some, try it see if it works for you. It's a bit more useful than that, have a look at autophagy." I'm well aware of benefits | |||
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"I also used to do hiit training on my fast days, with no problems, and I was told I was looking ripped. " It’s incredibly effective. Even a 20 minute protocol like Sprint 8. It was a breeze on 16:8. | |||
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"Simple...has anyone done it? How long for? Worth a try?" Dr Jason Fung is the go to for all things fasting. I've spent the last 13 years fasting in one way or another along with low carb and now two years carnivore, I've turned my health around and at 60, am disgustingly healthy | |||
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"Theres no magic to it. It's just another way of restricting calorie intake by having a reduced eating window. Works for some, try it see if it works for you. It's a bit more useful than that, have a look at autophagy. I'm well aware of benefits" Fantastic! Most people don't understand fasting, they think it's a modern fad that needs some sort of plan. | |||
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"Nope. We prefer a healthy eating routine." There's so many definitions of healthy eating though and humans didn't develop eating three times a day plus snacks. The 'breakfast is the most important meal of the day' thing was created by Mr Kellog! | |||
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"Theres no magic to it. It's just another way of restricting calorie intake by having a reduced eating window. Works for some, try it see if it works for you. It's a bit more useful than that, have a look at autophagy. I'm well aware of benefits Fantastic! Most people don't understand fasting, they think it's a modern fad that needs some sort of plan." Yep. It’s frustrating that people think it’s a fad diet, when it has well tested and documented benefits. It’s also a lot easier than people think, even those who go shaky/faint when hungry. I thought I’d struggle for that reason, but I didn’t. | |||
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"Theres no magic to it. It's just another way of restricting calorie intake by having a reduced eating window. Works for some, try it see if it works for you. It's a bit more useful than that, have a look at autophagy. I'm well aware of benefits Fantastic! Most people don't understand fasting, they think it's a modern fad that needs some sort of plan. Yep. It’s frustrating that people think it’s a fad diet, when it has well tested and documented benefits. It’s also a lot easier than people think, even those who go shaky/faint when hungry. I thought I’d struggle for that reason, but I didn’t. " The only reason I don't use some sort of fasting protocol is competing in powerlifting. 4000+ calories a day in a reduced window is almost impossible, tried it and failed, strength plummeted. When I eventually stop I'll use it in some way. | |||
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"Nope. We prefer a healthy eating routine. There's so many definitions of healthy eating though and humans didn't develop eating three times a day plus snacks. The 'breakfast is the most important meal of the day' thing was created by Mr Kellog!" Maybe. But I know I function better with food inside of me. The body needs fuel for energy and breakfast sets your metabolism working on a morning. | |||
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"Fasting not always good. I have a eating disorders and yes I fast. It's all about control for me. So be careful starting fasting." I don’t have a recognised eating disorder, but I do have some form of disordered eating (if that makes sense), and I found it helped me. | |||
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"Fasting not always good. I have a eating disorders and yes I fast. It's all about control for me. So be careful starting fasting." Wow that is both hard and brave to say that on a post like this go you Good luck | |||
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"Fasting not always good. I have a eating disorders and yes I fast. It's all about control for me. So be careful starting fasting. I don’t have a recognised eating disorder, but I do have some form of disordered eating (if that makes sense), and I found it helped me." There are so many disordered with food and body image. So thing help don't help. If it helps you it's a good thing. | |||
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"Fasting not always good. I have a eating disorders and yes I fast. It's all about control for me. So be careful starting fasting. I don’t have a recognised eating disorder, but I do have some form of disordered eating (if that makes sense), and I found it helped me. There are so many disordered with food and body image. So thing help don't help. If it helps you it's a good thing." I hope it helps you too | |||
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