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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

How do we know what is true or what is a total crock of steaming , stinking shite ?

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By *uzz And WoodyCouple
over a year ago

Maidstone

Follow your gut instincts.

Lou x

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Anyone else agree that we instinctively know what is true ? or that instinct lives in the human gut ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Intellect is the ability of the mind to come to a correct conclusion about what is real or true. In terms of faith our intellect rely's on what it sees and experiences. Faith is the substance of things hoped for, evidence of things not seen.

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

I take things on a literal level so my go to is instant distrust then research, research, research until I come to a conclusion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

By what resonates with me. Its a challenge to describe the feeling I have in my mind. As any other comes with some physical symptoms. The moment you come across that sentence in a book, which feels like epiphany.. when you listen to someone singing their heart out and you believe their lyrics. Frkm anything small like that to big beliefs around religion, politics, etc. There is instincts and facts we are presented with.. where we lack evidence, we can just opt in or out based on that inside poke! Or try and make sense from both. Thats the belief for me. Roughly...

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By *ickJMan
over a year ago

Hemel Hempstead

Apply critical thinking, and beware of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

we don't know what is true, we tend to believe what suits our current narrative.

That's what I believe anyway .

Some of the stuff I believe would have me carted off in cage on the back of a wagon by half of you on here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I ignore what the leading scientists in that field think and go with my gut instinct, yes it’s a totally uninformed decision based on my own bias, but it makes me happy in my world.

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Intellect is the ability of the mind to come to a correct conclusion about what is real or true. In terms of faith our intellect rely's on what it sees and experiences. Faith is the substance of things hoped for, evidence of things not seen. "

So we use our intellect in abstract matters and if I rationalise something to be true then it is ? If I rationalise something is not true , then it isn't ? Have I got that right ?

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I ignore what the leading scientists in that field think and go with my gut instinct, yes it’s a totally uninformed decision based on my own bias, but it makes me happy in my world."

Did you get the tin foil hat I sent you ?

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By *iamondCougarWoman
over a year ago

Norfuck! / Lincolnshire

It really depends on the facts presented....

For instance fake covid news. At the height of reporting it was difficult to believe all that was presented. I stuck to one source which I trusted

In the case of anything else it tends to be gut instinct with me. I will believe you unless you give me cause for doubt .... then the cause is lost

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

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I don't tend to go off of feelings too often - it's far more logical and reasoned (or at least I'd like to think so)! In part that's because of what Nicecouple mentions above - we try and believe things because they suit our narrative, everything that could possibly supports it feeds into our confirmation bias and anything that negates it is ignored. I've seen that happen a hell of a lot on here (I've been guilty of it a couple of times myself).

Some people I do instinctively believe, others I'm very wary/cautious of. I'm also far more likely to believe something if there is evidence of it - did several people see x do something daft? Even that's fallible like the rest of us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I believe we never stop to live and learn. Only the arrogant believe they know it all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I believe we never stop to live and learn. Only the arrogant believe they know it all. "

Every days a school day. Standard of if it’s looks like shit. Smells like shit....it’s shit

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Apply critical thinking, and beware of the Dunning-Kruger effect."

I prefer to plead imposter syndrome.... people are far more sympathetic to what they perceive as humility.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Application of evidence, understanding and experience.

With a touch of gut instinct.

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I believe we never stop to live and learn. Only the arrogant believe they know it all. "

I agree that........ but I believe it's not only the arrogant but the ignorant also.

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By *utterflyandArtificeCouple
over a year ago

Trowbridge


"How do we know what is true or what is a total crock of steaming , stinking shite ?"

If it smells like shite it probably is a steaming pile of jobby.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For me its simple- my instincts on women and vanilla life are great.

Men not so much.

I thought I was more savvy but still got duped by a bad man.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I Ask Alexa!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Intellect is the ability of the mind to come to a correct conclusion about what is real or true. In terms of faith our intellect rely's on what it sees and experiences. Faith is the substance of things hoped for, evidence of things not seen.

So we use our intellect in abstract matters and if I rationalise something to be true then it is ? If I rationalise something is not true , then it isn't ? Have I got that right ?

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Yes if the rational is not be based on inconclusive evidence for you to have arrived at your conclusion. Second so not so sure since we do not have an answer for everything. Some things simply cannot be explained.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I believe we never stop to live and learn. Only the arrogant believe they know it all.

I agree that........ but I believe it's not only the arrogant but the ignorant also."

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I Ask Alexa! "

Seriously ............ Google is my God. I don't know what I did before GoogleBible......

Google what's the temperature ... Google where is ? Google ... What is ? Why is ........ fucking hell.

Hang on while I ask Google if im sexy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There’s a whole other brain in our stomach that’s where the term gut feeling comes from. U sense an energy and just “know” when u get a vibe something doesn’t feel right x

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Showed me a video of I'm sexy and I know it....

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land

To believe is different from fact, something I sometimes forget. Depends on what the belief is e.g. religion or is someone a nice person.

Why to believe what I do? Depends on if there's actually hard evidence or is it based on word of mouth. People rarely repeat knowledge without accidentally adding or forgetting bits, or one persons take on an event will be different to anothers. Sometimes it will be past experience guiding my judgement, sometimes there's experts in a field so I can research and base my beliefs on that. I don't believe in gut instinct as such, I think that is just behaviour patterns you've learnt to recognise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There’s a whole other brain in our stomach that’s where the term gut feeling comes from. U sense an energy and just “know” when u get a vibe something doesn’t feel right x "

Nice try

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"There’s a whole other brain in our stomach that’s where the term gut feeling comes from. U sense an energy and just “know” when u get a vibe something doesn’t feel right x "

Instinct.......... fear .....

I'm talking about 'unfactual' ...... more than Come and see my puppies type of stuff......

Like uhmmmmmmm Space Men Exist. Ghosts walk amongst us. Covid came from lamposts in Essex......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I Ask Alexa!

Seriously ............ Google is my God. I don't know what I did before GoogleBible......

Google what's the temperature ... Google where is ? Google ... What is ? Why is ........ fucking hell.

Hang on while I ask Google if im sexy"

Intrigued, what answer did you receive?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There’s a whole other brain in our stomach that’s where the term gut feeling comes from. U sense an energy and just “know” when u get a vibe something doesn’t feel right x

Instinct.......... fear .....

I'm talking about 'unfactual' ...... more than Come and see my puppies type of stuff......

Like uhmmmmmmm Space Men Exist. Ghosts walk amongst us. Covid came from lamposts in Essex...... "

Common sense, wisdom gained through age nd experience. Not rushing in where "Angels fear to tread"..

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I Ask Alexa!

Seriously ............ Google is my God. I don't know what I did before GoogleBible......

Google what's the temperature ... Google where is ? Google ... What is ? Why is ........ fucking hell.

Hang on while I ask Google if im sexy

Intrigued, what answer did you receive? "

It showed me a video of ............ Im sexy and I know it ......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just asked Alexa if I am sexy!!

She likes me- as a friend!

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"There’s a whole other brain in our stomach that’s where the term gut feeling comes from. U sense an energy and just “know” when u get a vibe something doesn’t feel right x

Instinct.......... fear .....

I'm talking about 'unfactual' ...... more than Come and see my puppies type of stuff......

Like uhmmmmmmm Space Men Exist. Ghosts walk amongst us. Covid came from lamposts in Essex......

Common sense, wisdom gained through age nd experience. Not rushing in where "Angels fear to tread".."

angels ........ there's another thing !

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I just asked Alexa if I am sexy!!

She likes me- as a friend! "

What would you rather ............. A friend or a fuck ?

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"[Removed by poster at 24/02/21 18:00:43]"

Too late m8....... pay me or I tell

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There’s a whole other brain in our stomach that’s where the term gut feeling comes from. U sense an energy and just “know” when u get a vibe something doesn’t feel right x

Instinct.......... fear .....

I'm talking about 'unfactual' ...... more than Come and see my puppies type of stuff......

Like uhmmmmmmm Space Men Exist. Ghosts walk amongst us. Covid came from lamposts in Essex...... "

Would like to say common sense , but even that’s not that common. I think the nouse your born with, and maybe the type of beliefs you have been exposed to or your parents had can influence you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like to be informed on subject matter and will always evaluate several sources prior to making any decisions. However sometimes in life a calculated risk is needed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I like to be informed on subject matter and will always evaluate several sources prior to making any decisions. However sometimes in life a calculated risk is needed. "

Well, it’s also important to remain interesting...just saying

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Gather the evidence, base your assessment on knowledge, if not knowledge research, review and apply.

Try not to allow bias to influence your outcome.

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By *rad670Man
over a year ago

South Lakes

The way we are presented information is usually biased depending on the source so I beleive in looking for more information from multiple sorces then making my mind up by what seems more plausible, no matter how hard we try we are all biased by expeience in one way or another and that makes it hard to be totally independent in your views. We can only do our best and we don't always get it right.

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"The way we are presented information is usually biased depending on the source so I beleive in looking for more information from multiple sorces then making my mind up by what seems more plausible, no matter how hard we try we are all biased by expeience in one way or another and that makes it hard to be totally independent in your views. We can only do our best and we don't always get it right."

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Gather the evidence, base your assessment on knowledge, if not knowledge research, review and apply.

Try not to allow bias to influence your outcome. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I Ask Alexa!

Seriously ............ Google is my God. I don't know what I did before GoogleBible......

Google what's the temperature ... Google where is ? Google ... What is ? Why is ........ fucking hell.

Hang on while I ask Google if im sexy

Intrigued, what answer did you receive?

It showed me a video of ............ Im sexy and I know it ......"

Guess there’s some truth in Google reliability after-all in terms of accuracy in info.

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By *rder66Man
over a year ago

Tatooine

Noboy can tell you what to believe or not believe. Part of your journey is to figure that out. listen to all and question everything, not follow one much engage ib many.

We only limited by the organic body and mind tat we currently use.

The same with religion and spirituality: "Religion is the belief in someone else experience, Spirituality is having your own experience".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How do we know what is true or what is a total crock of steaming , stinking shite ?"

We don't.

Lies are often transparent though.

It's the accomplished liars you need to look out for.

Like the BBC

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We all make assessments of everything, emotional or rational. Whether we realise it or not we use both faculties though some may be more rational, some follow their gut. Good to have a balance, instincts are often right

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How do we know what is true or what is a total crock of steaming , stinking shite ?

We don't.

Lies are often transparent though.

It's the accomplished liars you need to look out for.

Like the BBC "

Good point

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone else agree that we instinctively know what is true ? or that instinct lives in the human gut ?"

gut instinct has personal bias - i don’t think its a great determiner of anything but your own truth

i think to get truth you have to approach things like science - start with a hypothesis then find sources to try both prove and disprove , this helps you challenge personal bias and remove it from the equation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's all context dependent

What's it in relation to

Who's delivering the message

Do they do it with conviction

Does it seem logical

Does it seem plausible

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By *tue555Man
over a year ago

Passed Beyond Reach

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By *tue555Man
over a year ago

Passed Beyond Reach

I often struggle to be belive what others believe, often will look for empirical evidence to support it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You ok? Hope this thread isn't because someone betrayed your trust.

The simple answer is there is no simple answer. I would just say you can give ppl the benefit of the doubt on here and believe everything they say is true, without giving them your 100% trust. Trust needs to be earned over time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Random Facebook posts shared by Karen.

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By *ickJMan
over a year ago

Hemel Hempstead


"Random Facebook posts shared by Karen."

Ah, social media "research": the font of all ignorance!

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"How do we know what is true or what is a total crock of steaming , stinking shite ?

We don't.

Lies are often transparent though.

It's the accomplished liars you need to look out for.

Like the BBC "

oooooooooo Mary. I'd day controversial but I think more and more people come to that conclusion daily. I can't watch BBC news on t.v....... garbage

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Anyone else agree that we instinctively know what is true ? or that instinct lives in the human gut ?

gut instinct has personal bias - i don’t think its a great determiner of anything but your own truth

i think to get truth you have to approach things like science - start with a hypothesis then find sources to try both prove and disprove , this helps you challenge personal bias and remove it from the equation "

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"You ok? Hope this thread isn't because someone betrayed your trust.

The simple answer is there is no simple answer. I would just say you can give ppl the benefit of the doubt on here and believe everything they say is true, without giving them your 100% trust. Trust needs to be earned over time."

I think it's very kind of you to ask if I am okay.

HOWEVERRRRRRR Even if this was a magazine I wouldn't be asking an agony aunt for help cos someone was a meany.

But I really do think it was incredibly good of you to enquire after the feelings of another.

It was a straight up , no hidden agenda ,no sympathy seeking question.

I KNOW how I decide what is true and what isn't and I know when to be ARSED if it is or it isn't.

I have a genuine interest in what others think.

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford


"I believe we never stop to live and learn. Only the arrogant believe they know it all. "

Even the smartest people don’t score 100% in all exams. We all make mistakes and hold incorrect assumptions and beliefs. To believe oneself can not be wrong is to be foolish in the extreme.

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By *luebellRacerCouple
over a year ago

Shropshire

Critical thinking.

Who said what, what was the motive, can it be proven?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Put simply, we don't choose what to believe. We are either convinced by evidence and argument or not.

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By *partharmonyCouple
over a year ago

Ruislip


"How do we know what is true or what is a total crock of steaming , stinking shite ?"

I try to base my confidence level on the evidence available. That certainly doesn't mean I always get it right. I'll always have biases but my guiding principle is evidence.

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By *r TriomanMan
over a year ago

Chippenham Malmesbury area


"Put simply, we don't choose what to believe. We are either convinced by evidence and argument or not. "

I'd like to believe this, and it would be true if people considered all the evidence and every argument (on a given subject) but they don't, they are selective, which allows them to maintain their beliefs. How else could continued prejudice, the extinction of wildlife for tradition medicines, flat earthers.... exist?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've always been a very good judge of character its served me well in life.

The last year has tested my brain though. So much mixed and misleading information flying about.

I can't really truthfully answer your question OP it's a very thought provoking one.

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By *host63Man
over a year ago

Bedfont Feltham


"How do we know what is true or what is a total crock of steaming , stinking shite ?"
In what context are you asking the question?

If it's current events like sayncovid. You do your research and try and work out the truth from fiction.

If it's people then that is much more complex

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By *ranny-Crumpet OP   Woman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"How do we know what is true or what is a total crock of steaming , stinking shite ? In what context are you asking the question?

If it's current events like sayncovid. You do your research and try and work out the truth from fiction.

If it's people then that is much more complex "

In the context of ' How do we choose what to believe in ANY given situation' .........

How do YOU or WE ( as human beings ) choose what to believe and what not to believe?

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By *d4fun73Man
over a year ago

Shipley


"How do we know what is true or what is a total crock of steaming , stinking shite ?"

Do some research, read about stuff from different sources, then use brain..

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By *egasus NobMan
over a year ago

Merton

We choose what we believe based on what we are thought first and foremost, what we have been domesticated to believe. Our survival is biased from parents, grandparents, books, friends and family beliefs. Beliefs have many nuances there is a personal, group, family, nation, world belief.

Just try going against a common belief amongst a community you are part of or family and watch how quickly you would be extradited or called crazy.

Belief is a survival mechanism and religion and politics is the best example.

Belief can be imposed and influenced also appearances are very deceptive and can't be trusted. Logic and emotion plays a huge part in how we see things and the ideologies we cling to.

BBW or Men or Women are ... fill in the blank and see what your believe tells you about yourself, better yet create a thread and type your answer without the influence of others scrutiny.

The key thing here is belief is a survival mechanism of the social environment you are within. If logic will save your life you would be, if emotional you would the same for the truth or lie.

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