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"The judge recognised the fact that she had given up her career to be a full time mum. " How do you know she had a career? | |||
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"Without the full story it isnt possible to say whether the decision was odd or not" BBC News - China court orders man to pay wife for housework in landmark case https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-56178510 | |||
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"Without the full story it isnt possible to say whether the decision was odd or not BBC News - China court orders man to pay wife for housework in landmark case https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-56178510" Thanks. I've read the report. It doesn't seem odd to me. Years ago my father owned a business (his phrasing) my mum did the office work but he refused to pay her. She stopped doing the work and he had to employ someone. Women aren't men's unpaid servants. | |||
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"My ex would have owed me. " Men aren't womens unpaid servants either | |||
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"My ex would have owed me. Men aren't womens unpaid servants either " I'd have settled for him emptying the bin from time to time | |||
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"My ex would have owed me. Men aren't womens unpaid servants either I'd have settled for him emptying the bin from time to time" The minute I knew I was going to leave my first husband was when he said "Go and clean your kitchen" | |||
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"Well in my past relay women cooked cleaned and ironed for me out of love. I don't they kept a meter running like a taxi waiting for a passenger..." That's nice Tom. I expect you returned their love with things like diy etc | |||
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"Well in my past relay women cooked cleaned and ironed for me out of love. I don't they kept a meter running like a taxi waiting for a passenger... That's nice Tom. I expect you returned their love with things like diy etc" It’s a two way street, if you both bring a wide array of skills to the relationship, then you’d both be in a better place. | |||
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"Well in my past relay women cooked cleaned and ironed for me out of love. I don't they kept a meter running like a taxi waiting for a passenger..." i would bet my ass that it was never done “out of love” and it was done out of either obligation or just not wanting to live in a pigsty or have another fight about it people don’t run a meter to charge for it no because it shouldn’t be a case of her serving you, or even him serving her - it should be give and take in a relationship , both contributing equally just perhaps in different ways - if circumstances mean one of those equal partners was not able to work or not able to further their career to the same extent as the other then damn sure at point of a divorce they should instead be compensated for the contribution they have made | |||
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"Well in my past relay women cooked cleaned and ironed for me out of love. I don't they kept a meter running like a taxi waiting for a passenger... That's nice Tom. I expect you returned their love with things like diy etc It’s a two way street, if you both bring a wide array of skills to the relationship, then you’d both be in a better place. " A lot of people still think housework is the women's job | |||
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"Well in my past relay women cooked cleaned and ironed for me out of love. I don't they kept a meter running like a taxi waiting for a passenger... That's nice Tom. I expect you returned their love with things like diy etc It’s a two way street, if you both bring a wide array of skills to the relationship, then you’d both be in a better place. A lot of people still think housework is the women's job" They do but also some women do believe it is their role, depends on upbringing etc. If it works for them is that wrong? | |||
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"Well in my past relay women cooked cleaned and ironed for me out of love. I don't they kept a meter running like a taxi waiting for a passenger... That's nice Tom. I expect you returned their love with things like diy etc It’s a two way street, if you both bring a wide array of skills to the relationship, then you’d both be in a better place. A lot of people still think housework is the women's job They do but also some women do believe it is their role, depends on upbringing etc. If it works for them is that wrong?" No. Nobody should run their relationship to someone else's ideals | |||
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"Well in my past relay women cooked cleaned and ironed for me out of love. I don't they kept a meter running like a taxi waiting for a passenger... That's nice Tom. I expect you returned their love with things like diy etc It’s a two way street, if you both bring a wide array of skills to the relationship, then you’d both be in a better place. A lot of people still think housework is the women's job They do but also some women do believe it is their role, depends on upbringing etc. If it works for them is that wrong? No. Nobody should run their relationship to someone else's ideals" Agreed there, my husband recently changed the clutch in the car. I’d prefer the hob to rolling around the floor looking like a coal miner for two days. The point being it’s not a “ woman’s” job, it’s just a job. Between us, the car is fixed and we are all fed. Happy days. | |||
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"Well in my past relay women cooked cleaned and ironed for me out of love. I don't they kept a meter running like a taxi waiting for a passenger... That's nice Tom. I expect you returned their love with things like diy etc It’s a two way street, if you both bring a wide array of skills to the relationship, then you’d both be in a better place. A lot of people still think housework is the women's job They do but also some women do believe it is their role, depends on upbringing etc. If it works for them is that wrong? No. Nobody should run their relationship to someone else's ideals Agreed there, my husband recently changed the clutch in the car. I’d prefer the hob to rolling around the floor looking like a coal miner for two days. The point being it’s not a “ woman’s” job, it’s just a job. Between us, the car is fixed and we are all fed. Happy days." It is, if my OH said she'd replace the clutch on our camper, id say hell yes, she'd have dinner cooked, hot bath run, candles, bottle of wine the works.  | |||
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"Can all the people on homeschooling duty claim a teacher's salary now too! " Thing is they aren’t doing the teaching, the teachers are, albeit online classes. The classes are just happening at home. | |||
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"Well in my past relay women cooked cleaned and ironed for me out of love. I don't they kept a meter running like a taxi waiting for a passenger... That's nice Tom. I expect you returned their love with things like diy etc It’s a two way street, if you both bring a wide array of skills to the relationship, then you’d both be in a better place. A lot of people still think housework is the women's job They do but also some women do believe it is their role, depends on upbringing etc. If it works for them is that wrong? No. Nobody should run their relationship to someone else's ideals Agreed there, my husband recently changed the clutch in the car. I’d prefer the hob to rolling around the floor looking like a coal miner for two days. The point being it’s not a “ woman’s” job, it’s just a job. Between us, the car is fixed and we are all fed. Happy days. It is, if my OH said she'd replace the clutch on our camper, id say hell yes, she'd have dinner cooked, hot bath run, candles, bottle of wine the works. "Exactly, the £950 he saved us in garage bills buys a fair few dinners if you look at it from that perspective. | |||
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"Modern housework is not the chore it once was.. " Ah, bless ya Tom. Neither is refuse collection. What's your point? | |||
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"Modern housework is not the chore it once was.. Ah, bless ya Tom. Neither is refuse collection. What's your point?" Well I remember when I was a little boy that we had a gas washing machine with a mangle to rinse the clothes, our toilet was at the bottom of the garden and we boiled water to have a wash in a tin bath. I am not joking by the way. The first Hoover's were out but most used a brush and all the mums wore pinnies and cleaned the doorstep every morning. We had coal fire and the grate had to be cleaned out most mornings and fresh coal brought in with a skittle.. it was tougher then.. | |||
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"the world is split into productive labour and reproductive labour - sounds like he did the productive labour while she did the reproductive if your marriage doesnt have an even split of both why should you have to walk away with nothing when you have contributed but just in a different way? " This ^^ If a person is a single parent and working full time they would have to outsource all the domestic duties, which would cost money. The bill for paying childcare, cleaners, laundry etc can potentially be huge. When a marriage ends the contribution of both parties needs to be recognised. | |||
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"Modern housework is not the chore it once was.. Ah, bless ya Tom. Neither is refuse collection. What's your point? Well I remember when I was a little boy that we had a gas washing machine with a mangle to rinse the clothes, our toilet was at the bottom of the garden and we boiled water to have a wash in a tin bath. I am not joking by the way. The first Hoover's were out but most used a brush and all the mums wore pinnies and cleaned the doorstep every morning. We had coal fire and the grate had to be cleaned out most mornings and fresh coal brought in with a skittle.. it was tougher then.." Yes it was similar when I was a child. The refuse collectors used to open the front gate walk round to the back of the house, carry your bin on their shoulder to the dustbin lorry, empty it, then return the bin to your back garden. It's all much easier now. | |||
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"I thought a woman would bring up her child out of love. Maybe I am old fashioned " Love doesn't buy the food into the house, Tom, nor pay for the gas, 'leccy etc. What about men? What's their role? | |||
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"I thought a woman would bring up her child out of love. Maybe I am old fashioned " and where is the dads love? | |||
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"I thought a woman would bring up her child out of love. Maybe I am old fashioned " old fashioned / misogynistic potato , potahto | |||
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"My ex would have owed me. Men aren't womens unpaid servants either I'd have settled for him emptying the bin from time to time The minute I knew I was going to leave my first husband was when he said "Go and clean your kitchen" " My first husband referred to housework as " your bits" " When you've finished doing your bits" This was the same man that said "I dont bath babies. Thats your job" Even though i had full on eclampsia, fitted in labour and was extremely unwell. Barely being able to get to the top of the stairs He made sexism into an art form | |||
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"I thought a woman would bring up her child out of love. Maybe I am old fashioned " What makes you think they don't? | |||
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"My ex would have owed me. Men aren't womens unpaid servants either I'd have settled for him emptying the bin from time to time The minute I knew I was going to leave my first husband was when he said "Go and clean your kitchen" My first husband referred to housework as " your bits" " When you've finished doing your bits" This was the same man that said "I dont bath babies. Thats your job" Even though i had full on eclampsia, fitted in labour and was extremely unwell. Barely being able to get to the top of the stairs He made sexism into an art form" Incredible isn't it. | |||
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"I thought a woman would bring up her child out of love. Maybe I am old fashioned What makes you think they don't?" Exactly my point.. If I was a female and brought up a child I would tell a judge to poke it if he tried to pay me for it... | |||
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"I thought a woman would bring up her child out of love. Maybe I am old fashioned What makes you think they don't? Exactly my point.. If I was a female and brought up a child I would tell a judge to poke it if he tried to pay me for it... " I'm sure your love would keep the heating on and your offspring's mouth filled with the finest delicacies. | |||
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"I thought a woman would bring up her child out of love. Maybe I am old fashioned What makes you think they don't? Exactly my point.. If I was a female and brought up a child I would tell a judge to poke it if he tried to pay me for it... " Well the judge wouldn't be paying you, your ex husband would. Are you thinking that a father shouldn't contribute financially towards the continuing care of his children? | |||
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"the world is split into productive labour and reproductive labour - sounds like he did the productive labour while she did the reproductive if your marriage doesnt have an even split of both why should you have to walk away with nothing when you have contributed but just in a different way? " Quite right  | |||
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"My ex would have owed me. Men aren't womens unpaid servants either I'd have settled for him emptying the bin from time to time The minute I knew I was going to leave my first husband was when he said "Go and clean your kitchen" My first husband referred to housework as " your bits" " When you've finished doing your bits" This was the same man that said "I dont bath babies. Thats your job" Even though i had full on eclampsia, fitted in labour and was extremely unwell. Barely being able to get to the top of the stairs He made sexism into an art form Incredible isn't it."
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"I thought a woman would bring up her child out of love. Maybe I am old fashioned What makes you think they don't? Exactly my point.. If I was a female and brought up a child I would tell a judge to poke it if he tried to pay me for it... Well the judge wouldn't be paying you, your ex husband would. Are you thinking that a father shouldn't contribute financially towards the continuing care of his children? " Well that's a curved ball question to be fair.. As a general principle yes but there are exceptions ... | |||
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"My ex would have owed me. Men aren't womens unpaid servants either I'd have settled for him emptying the bin from time to time The minute I knew I was going to leave my first husband was when he said "Go and clean your kitchen" My first husband referred to housework as " your bits" " When you've finished doing your bits" This was the same man that said "I dont bath babies. Thats your job" Even though i had full on eclampsia, fitted in labour and was extremely unwell. Barely being able to get to the top of the stairs He made sexism into an art form Incredible isn't it.
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He used to walk into the house and say "where's my dinner, woman?""Well if the man is out grafting all day he needs a hot meal to be fair.. | |||
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"I thought a woman would bring up her child out of love. Maybe I am old fashioned What makes you think they don't? Exactly my point.. If I was a female and brought up a child I would tell a judge to poke it if he tried to pay me for it... Well the judge wouldn't be paying you, your ex husband would. Are you thinking that a father shouldn't contribute financially towards the continuing care of his children? Well that's a curved ball question to be fair.. As a general principle yes but there are exceptions ..." Go on, what exceptions are there to a father providing financially towards the continuing care of his child or children? | |||
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"My ex would have owed me. Men aren't womens unpaid servants either I'd have settled for him emptying the bin from time to time The minute I knew I was going to leave my first husband was when he said "Go and clean your kitchen" My first husband referred to housework as " your bits" " When you've finished doing your bits" This was the same man that said "I dont bath babies. Thats your job" Even though i had full on eclampsia, fitted in labour and was extremely unwell. Barely being able to get to the top of the stairs He made sexism into an art form Incredible isn't it.
He learnt from his father before him.
He used to walk into the house and say "where's my dinner, woman?"
Well if the man is out grafting all day he needs a hot meal to be fair.."he does but he is also capable of making that meal - we dont live in the 50s anymore so its likely his wife had also been out grafting all day - who is making her hot meal? | |||
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"My ex would have owed me. Men aren't womens unpaid servants either I'd have settled for him emptying the bin from time to time The minute I knew I was going to leave my first husband was when he said "Go and clean your kitchen" My first husband referred to housework as " your bits" " When you've finished doing your bits" This was the same man that said "I dont bath babies. Thats your job" Even though i had full on eclampsia, fitted in labour and was extremely unwell. Barely being able to get to the top of the stairs He made sexism into an art form Incredible isn't it.
He learnt from his father before him.
He used to walk into the house and say "where's my dinner, woman?""Bloody hell! It's awful isn't it. I woke up one morning to find he'd agreed to a colleague lodging with us and was helping him move in, there and then. It was "his" house and he could do what he liked apparently . Sorted that one out. A couple of months later, the same thing happened again  . I actually laugh about it now  | |||
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"My ex would have owed me. Men aren't womens unpaid servants either I'd have settled for him emptying the bin from time to time The minute I knew I was going to leave my first husband was when he said "Go and clean your kitchen" My first husband referred to housework as " your bits" " When you've finished doing your bits" This was the same man that said "I dont bath babies. Thats your job" Even though i had full on eclampsia, fitted in labour and was extremely unwell. Barely being able to get to the top of the stairs He made sexism into an art form Incredible isn't it.
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He used to walk into the house and say "where's my dinner, woman?"
Well if the man is out grafting all day he needs a hot meal to be fair.."He can fuck off back to mummy if he has that attitude | |||
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"My ex would have owed me. Men aren't womens unpaid servants either I'd have settled for him emptying the bin from time to time The minute I knew I was going to leave my first husband was when he said "Go and clean your kitchen" My first husband referred to housework as " your bits" " When you've finished doing your bits" This was the same man that said "I dont bath babies. Thats your job" Even though i had full on eclampsia, fitted in labour and was extremely unwell. Barely being able to get to the top of the stairs He made sexism into an art form Incredible isn't it.
He learnt from his father before him.
He used to walk into the house and say "where's my dinner, woman?"
Well if the man is out grafting all day he needs a hot meal to be fair..
he does but he is also capable of making that meal - we dont live in the 50s anymore so its likely his wife had also been out grafting all day - who is making her hot meal? "Deliveroo  | |||
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"My ex would have owed me. Men aren't womens unpaid servants either I'd have settled for him emptying the bin from time to time The minute I knew I was going to leave my first husband was when he said "Go and clean your kitchen" My first husband referred to housework as " your bits" " When you've finished doing your bits" This was the same man that said "I dont bath babies. Thats your job" Even though i had full on eclampsia, fitted in labour and was extremely unwell. Barely being able to get to the top of the stairs He made sexism into an art form Incredible isn't it.
He learnt from his father before him.
He used to walk into the house and say "where's my dinner, woman?"
Bloody hell! It's awful isn't it. I woke up one morning to find he'd agreed to a colleague lodging with us and was helping him move in, there and then. It was "his" house and he could do what he liked apparently . Sorted that one out. A couple of months later, the same thing happened again . I actually laugh about it now "Blimey.. well.I am glad you are happier and being treated better now... | |||
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"My ex would have owed me. Men aren't womens unpaid servants either I'd have settled for him emptying the bin from time to time The minute I knew I was going to leave my first husband was when he said "Go and clean your kitchen" My first husband referred to housework as " your bits" " When you've finished doing your bits" This was the same man that said "I dont bath babies. Thats your job" Even though i had full on eclampsia, fitted in labour and was extremely unwell. Barely being able to get to the top of the stairs He made sexism into an art form Incredible isn't it.
He learnt from his father before him.
He used to walk into the house and say "where's my dinner, woman?"
Well if the man is out grafting all day he needs a hot meal to be fair..
he does but he is also capable of making that meal - we dont live in the 50s anymore so its likely his wife had also been out grafting all day - who is making her hot meal?
Deliveroo "deliveroo regularly make my meals to be fair | |||
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"My ex would have owed me. Men aren't womens unpaid servants either I'd have settled for him emptying the bin from time to time The minute I knew I was going to leave my first husband was when he said "Go and clean your kitchen" My first husband referred to housework as " your bits" " When you've finished doing your bits" This was the same man that said "I dont bath babies. Thats your job" Even though i had full on eclampsia, fitted in labour and was extremely unwell. Barely being able to get to the top of the stairs He made sexism into an art form Incredible isn't it.
He learnt from his father before him.
He used to walk into the house and say "where's my dinner, woman?"
Bloody hell! It's awful isn't it. I woke up one morning to find he'd agreed to a colleague lodging with us and was helping him move in, there and then. It was "his" house and he could do what he liked apparently . Sorted that one out. A couple of months later, the same thing happened again . I actually laugh about it now
Blimey.. well.I am glad you are happier and being treated better now..."Thanks Tom. This was in the 70s and not even the 1870s | |||
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"We shared the responsibilities, at every level. Was an equal partnership all the way. Not every relationship is the same - as long as it works and there are no other darker factors to consider - who are we to judge" totally this ... it doesn’t have to be each task 50/50 just the overall workload of life 50/50 , wether that be paid work, housework, child rearing, and to some extent even the emotional support of each other | |||
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"Well in my past relay women cooked cleaned and ironed for me out of love. I don't they kept a meter running like a taxi waiting for a passenger..." You say in the past clearly they got fed up with being a skivvy lol kidding | |||
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"It's about choices. Nothing worse than people criticising woman who want to be a trad wife.. each to their own.." Nobodies choice in that respect should be criticised, woman or man. | |||
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"Her old man should of just kept the receipts to the house keeping he gave her "Yes, then she could have deducted the cost of the food she bought and the hours and spent cooking it and working in the home to see how much he still owed her  | |||
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"Her old man should of just kept the receipts to the house keeping he gave her
Yes, then she could have deducted the cost of the food she bought and the hours and spent cooking it and working in the home to see how much he still owed her "Nothing, the poor old sod went work all week and chucked every penny over, didn’t even have enough left for a pint and she still has him over .... | |||
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"Her old man should of just kept the receipts to the house keeping he gave her
Yes, then she could have deducted the cost of the food she bought and the hours and spent cooking it and working in the home to see how much he still owed her "
And if he was a drinker...
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"Her old man should of just kept the receipts to the house keeping he gave her
Yes, then she could have deducted the cost of the food she bought and the hours and spent cooking it and working in the home to see how much he still owed her
Nothing, the poor old sod went work all week and chucked every penny over, didn’t even have enough left for a pint and she still has him over .... "
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"My mum was given housekeeping.. every mum I knew was given housekeeping.. Jar for the milkman, jar for the insurance man, jar for the coalman.. etc etc.." Isn't it wonderful that women (in the UK, at least) no longer need to rely on a man putting coins in a jar so they can pay for essentials? In general, women received housekeeping money because they didn't (often couldn't) work outside the home. It meant women were unable or far less able to support themselves and children if their husband died, was made redundant or even better, spent the housekeeping elsewhere. And it meant divorce was not an option (aside the stupid laws) because of the risk of being left destitute. Ah! The good old days indeed  | |||
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"My mum was given housekeeping.. every mum I knew was given housekeeping.. Jar for the milkman, jar for the insurance man, jar for the coalman.. etc etc.." Jar for the cook. Jar for the cleaner. Jar for the nanny. Jar for the bed warmer  | |||
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"What would men do if their wives refused to give up work and have babies? Pay a surrogate perhaps?" Acquire repetitive strain injury relieving their "full balls"? Who knows | |||
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"My mum was given housekeeping.. every mum I knew was given housekeeping.. Jar for the milkman, jar for the insurance man, jar for the coalman.. etc etc.. Isn't it wonderful that women (in the UK, at least) no longer need to rely on a man putting coins in a jar so they can pay for essentials? In general, women received housekeeping money because they didn't (often couldn't) work outside the home. It meant women were unable or far less able to support themselves and children if their husband died, was made redundant or even better, spent the housekeeping elsewhere. And it meant divorce was not an option (aside the stupid laws) because of the risk of being left destitute. Ah! The good old days indeed "
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"My mum was given housekeeping.. every mum I knew was given housekeeping.. Jar for the milkman, jar for the insurance man, jar for the coalman.. etc etc.. Isn't it wonderful that women (in the UK, at least) no longer need to rely on a man putting coins in a jar so they can pay for essentials? In general, women received housekeeping money because they didn't (often couldn't) work outside the home. It meant women were unable or far less able to support themselves and children if their husband died, was made redundant or even better, spent the housekeeping elsewhere. And it meant divorce was not an option (aside the stupid laws) because of the risk of being left destitute. Ah! The good old days indeed
im also loving the “mum was given housekeeping” as though thats her money and shes away spending it on things she loves rather than it just being money thats been put aside for household bills "We all know women love nothing more than to treat themselves to a pair of knock off Marigolds and a new tube of Brasso. Obviously... | |||
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"What would men do if their wives refused to give up work and have babies? Pay a surrogate perhaps?" Well many have a surrogate on the side if you get my meaning.... | |||
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"My mum was given housekeeping.. every mum I knew was given housekeeping.. Jar for the milkman, jar for the insurance man, jar for the coalman.. etc etc.. Isn't it wonderful that women (in the UK, at least) no longer need to rely on a man putting coins in a jar so they can pay for essentials? In general, women received housekeeping money because they didn't (often couldn't) work outside the home. It meant women were unable or far less able to support themselves and children if their husband died, was made redundant or even better, spent the housekeeping elsewhere. And it meant divorce was not an option (aside the stupid laws) because of the risk of being left destitute. Ah! The good old days indeed
im also loving the “mum was given housekeeping” as though thats her money and shes away spending it on things she loves rather than it just being money thats been put aside for household bills "I am not sure that was ever true.. a thrifty mum would use the housekeeping wisely...keep everyone fed, pay the bills and a little for herself for treats.. she would pay weekly at the local shop for Christmas and the club book for clothes and stuff.. It was lovely to be brought up by loving parents.. think of it differently.. here is the weekly wage pet.. I trust you to make it work.. | |||
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"My mum was given housekeeping.. every mum I knew was given housekeeping.. Jar for the milkman, jar for the insurance man, jar for the coalman.. etc etc.. Isn't it wonderful that women (in the UK, at least) no longer need to rely on a man putting coins in a jar so they can pay for essentials? In general, women received housekeeping money because they didn't (often couldn't) work outside the home. It meant women were unable or far less able to support themselves and children if their husband died, was made redundant or even better, spent the housekeeping elsewhere. And it meant divorce was not an option (aside the stupid laws) because of the risk of being left destitute. Ah! The good old days indeed
im also loving the “mum was given housekeeping” as though thats her money and shes away spending it on things she loves rather than it just being money thats been put aside for household bills
I am not sure that was ever true.. a thrifty mum would use the housekeeping wisely...keep everyone fed, pay the bills and a little for herself for treats.. she would pay weekly at the local shop for Christmas and the club book for clothes and stuff..
It was lovely to be brought up by loving parents.. think of it differently.. here is the weekly wage pet.. I trust you to make it work.. "It's lovely to have the autonomy to do what you so choose and minus the need to accept being called pet. I hope Mrs Wang (the lady about whom the thread relates) is now able to have her own autonomy and is able to do the best for her son and herself going forward. | |||
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"My mum was given housekeeping.. every mum I knew was given housekeeping.. Jar for the milkman, jar for the insurance man, jar for the coalman.. etc etc.. Isn't it wonderful that women (in the UK, at least) no longer need to rely on a man putting coins in a jar so they can pay for essentials? In general, women received housekeeping money because they didn't (often couldn't) work outside the home. It meant women were unable or far less able to support themselves and children if their husband died, was made redundant or even better, spent the housekeeping elsewhere. And it meant divorce was not an option (aside the stupid laws) because of the risk of being left destitute. Ah! The good old days indeed
im also loving the “mum was given housekeeping” as though thats her money and shes away spending it on things she loves rather than it just being money thats been put aside for household bills
I am not sure that was ever true.. a thrifty mum would use the housekeeping wisely...keep everyone fed, pay the bills and a little for herself for treats.. she would pay weekly at the local shop for Christmas and the club book for clothes and stuff..
It was lovely to be brought up by loving parents.. think of it differently.. here is the weekly wage pet.. I trust you to make it work..
It's lovely to have the autonomy to do what you so choose and minus the need to accept being called pet.
I hope Mrs Wang (the lady about whom the thread relates) is now able to have her own autonomy and is able to do the best for her son and herself going forward."Agreed.. And she will hopefully have a bright future.. As bright as the wonderful childhood I shared with a loving mum and dad in a trad household.. we were poor but happy.. | |||
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"£5,000 for 5 years! I don't envy the hourly rate one bit....." She also gets a monthly alimony of 2000 yuan so she has the lump sum and ongoing monthly money to bring up her son. Good luck to Mrs Wang | |||
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"I am surprised they don't work out a rate for sexual services..after all, if the man had to shop elsewhere then it would cost a few bob..." They should. There would be a lot of women having to shop elsewhere too | |||
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it’s a bit odd