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By *ouplekink OP   Couple
over a year ago

kink town

What are people's _iews on the welsh lads refusing to sing the national anthem for team GB in the football?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

disrespectful

like it or not 'God Save the Queen' is the national anthem of England AND Great Britain.

If they dont want to sing the national anthem of the country they have been chosen to represent then dont accept the invitation

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"What are people's _iews on the welsh lads refusing to sing the national anthem for team GB in the football?"

I don't think he should have to sing it but respect it yes....

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By *at n michaelCouple
over a year ago

AYRSHIRE


"disrespectful

like it or not 'God Save the Queen' is the national anthem of England AND Great Britain.

If they dont want to sing the national anthem of the country they have been chosen to represent then dont accept the invitation"

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By *o-jCouple
over a year ago

Outskirts of Notts

As a proud englishwoman I would prefer Jerusalem

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By *xonswingersCouple
over a year ago

Close to Oxford

I think its fair, speaking as a Welshman. I think there ought to be a British National Anthem that is inclusive for the Welsh, Scottish, Northern Irish and English, infact didnt it used to be Rule Brittania?

I have nothing against God Save the Queen and I would sing it happily if it was the British National Anthem and the English had their own anthem, such as Jerusalam but being as the English sing it as their National Anthem and then expect the rest of to sing it as the British anthem it just doesnt sit right.

But thats just my opinion.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

maybe we should have our own English national anthem like the other countries but for now we dont

Jerusalem is my choice to lol

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"As a proud englishwoman I would prefer Jerusalem "

It is team GB...which isn't just English though, so God save the queen is the National Anthem.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"I think its fair, speaking as a Welshman. I think there ought to be a British National Anthem that is inclusive for the Welsh, Scottish, Northern Irish and English, infact didnt it used to be Rule Brittania?

I have nothing against God Save the Queen and I would sing it happily if it was the British National Anthem and the English had their own anthem, such as Jerusalam but being as the English sing it as their National Anthem and then expect the rest of to sing it as the British anthem it just doesnt sit right.

But thats just my opinion."

but thats always been the case, its only fairly recently that Scotland, Wales and Norther Ireland have adopted their anthems isn't it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"disrespectful

like it or not 'God Save the Queen' is the national anthem of England AND Great Britain.

If they dont want to sing the national anthem of the country they have been chosen to represent then dont accept the invitation"

Couldn't agree more and after all they have a Prince of Wales who will one day become King, will they not then sing God Save the King?

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By *am sampsonMan
over a year ago

cwmbran

On a site where people repeatedly talk about preferences and choice - surely it is everyones' choice whether they sing the national anthem. Up until recently there have been several instances of english players not singing it

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

I don't know if there is a reason why they didn't sing to it.....but, if they are not singing the National Anthem because they don't believe in it, then maybe they shouldn't be competing for GB in the Olympics.

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By *ouplekink OP   Couple
over a year ago

kink town

Exactly, they have chosen to represent GB so should sing the national anthem.

Just find it disrespectful of them to refuse to sing it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't know if there is a reason why they didn't sing to it.....but, if they are not singing the National Anthem because they don't believe in it, then maybe they shouldn't be competing for GB in the Olympics."

Well said

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By *uckscouple2007Couple
over a year ago

Bucks


"As a proud englishwoman I would prefer Jerusalem

It is team GB...which isn't just English though, so God save the queen is the National Anthem."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree that there should be a British anthem, after all, we have all fought side by side in the world wars, even though we were/are true to our nationalities.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

I don't think it is compulsory for people to sing it though, not everyone does.

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By *o-jCouple
over a year ago

Outskirts of Notts

At the end of the day it's a bloody song

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"On a site where people repeatedly talk about preferences and choice - surely it is everyones' choice whether they sing the national anthem. Up until recently there have been several instances of english players not singing it "

i hate that to. Everyone says what an honour it is to represent your country. If its that big an onour then respect your country.

In the case of the Olympics the country you are representing is Great Britain

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By *xonswingersCouple
over a year ago

Close to Oxford

No we have had anthems for many many many years. Before Land of our Fathers we had Bread of Heaven, and the Scottish national anthem before Flower of Scotland was Scotland the Brave.

We forget that Britain is made up of 4 nations who all have their own identity but combined are all willing to act as one, its just unfortunate that the world often sees England as being the same as Britain.

BTW I am not anti English, I am pro British and proud to be Welsh, or as my Mum often says, British by birth, Welsh by the grace of God.

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By *ouplekink OP   Couple
over a year ago

kink town

Choosing not to sing and refusing not to sing are two different things. Strange that only the welsh players were the only ones not singing!

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"No we have had anthems for many many many years. Before Land of our Fathers we had Bread of Heaven, and the Scottish national anthem before Flower of Scotland was Scotland the Brave.

We forget that Britain is made up of 4 nations who all have their own identity but combined are all willing to act as one, its just unfortunate that the world often sees England as being the same as Britain.

BTW I am not anti English, I am pro British and proud to be Welsh, or as my Mum often says, British by birth, Welsh by the grace of God."

i stand corrected on that point then

i'm not anti anything either but we havent got a seperate anthem and so people representing Team GB need to recognise that, man up, and just sing the bloody song!!!!

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By *xonswingersCouple
over a year ago

Close to Oxford

Its not that easy, it means singing the national anthem of not only Britain but England.

If the shoe was on the other foot, and the English national anthem was God Save the Queen but the British National Anthem was Land Of Our Fathers, in Welsh, the English would have a full cob on and be constantly complaing about having sing it. So why should we sing God Save the Queen? We get annoyed when Prince Charles (The Prince of Wales) doesnt sing the Welsh National Anthem but does sing GSTQ.

At the end of the day its just a song, and singing it doesnt give us any special super powers to help win the game.

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By *ayjay218Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen

Is there not a verse in God Save the Queen about crushing "those rebellious Scots"? Surely you cant expect Scotsmen/women to sing that regardless if the are representing GB

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By *ouplekink OP   Couple
over a year ago

kink town


"Is there not a verse in God Save the Queen about crushing "those rebellious Scots"? Surely you cant expect Scotsmen/women to sing that regardless if the are representing GB"

I heared this before and don't know where it comes from but it doesn't mention the scots in the first 5 verses, plus we only sing the first verse anyway.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"Is there not a verse in God Save the Queen about crushing "those rebellious Scots"? Surely you cant expect Scotsmen/women to sing that regardless if the are representing GB"

That was taken off in 1700 something so it seems, not sure if you were alive then to remember it

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"Its not that easy, it means singing the national anthem of not only Britain but England.

If the shoe was on the other foot, and the English national anthem was God Save the Queen but the British National Anthem was Land Of Our Fathers, in Welsh, the English would have a full cob on and be constantly complaing about having sing it. ."

Only cos we can't speak Welsh

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By *am sampsonMan
over a year ago

cwmbran


"Is there not a verse in God Save the Queen about crushing "those rebellious Scots"? Surely you cant expect Scotsmen/women to sing that regardless if the are representing GB

I heared this before and don't know where it comes from but it doesn't mention the scots in the first 5 verses, plus we only sing the first verse anyway."

There are 6 verses it's the last

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By *hyguy 43Man
over a year ago

Swansea


"Its not that easy, it means singing the national anthem of not only Britain but England.

If the shoe was on the other foot, and the English national anthem was God Save the Queen but the British National Anthem was Land Of Our Fathers, in Welsh, the English would have a full cob on and be constantly complaing about having sing it. So why should we sing God Save the Queen? We get annoyed when Prince Charles (The Prince of Wales) doesnt sing the Welsh National Anthem but does sing GSTQ.

At the end of the day its just a song, and singing it doesnt give us any special super powers to help win the game."

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By *am sampsonMan
over a year ago

cwmbran


"Is there not a verse in God Save the Queen about crushing "those rebellious Scots"? Surely you cant expect Scotsmen/women to sing that regardless if the are representing GB

That was taken off in 1700 something so it seems, not sure if you were alive then to remember it "

Should tell the Telegtaph that they used it for the Queens Diamond Jubilee

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By *hyguy 43Man
over a year ago

Swansea


"Its not that easy, it means singing the national anthem of not only Britain but England.

If the shoe was on the other foot, and the English national anthem was God Save the Queen but the British National Anthem was Land Of Our Fathers, in Welsh, the English would have a full cob on and be constantly complaing about having sing it. .

Only cos we can't speak Welsh "

And we were forced to speak english xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In the 84 Olympics Daley Thompson hit the headlines by whistling during the playing of the national anthem when receiving his Gold medal…….

He also made a bit of an arse of the Olympic-sprit openly wearing a series of T-shirts with outrageous comments, including one that made insinuations about US sprinter Carl Lewis' sexuality.....

So I guess a few guys not singing along with the GB national anthem ain’t all that bad…

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"Its not that easy, it means singing the national anthem of not only Britain but England.

If the shoe was on the other foot, and the English national anthem was God Save the Queen but the British National Anthem was Land Of Our Fathers, in Welsh, the English would have a full cob on and be constantly complaing about having sing it. .

Only cos we can't speak Welsh

And we were forced to speak english xxx"

I am sure if you want to speak Welsh you can

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"Is there not a verse in God Save the Queen about crushing "those rebellious Scots"? Surely you cant expect Scotsmen/women to sing that regardless if the are representing GB

That was taken off in 1700 something so it seems, not sure if you were alive then to remember it

Should tell the Telegtaph that they used it for the Queens Diamond Jubilee "

oh....someone pasted the whole thing from Wiki the other week, and it said it was removed in the 1700's....I will try and remember what thread it was to find it.

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By *o-jCouple
over a year ago

Outskirts of Notts

Just wait until football ends up like the rugby and cricket teams with south afrians , kiwis and even players from new quinea

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By *hyguy 43Man
over a year ago

Swansea


"Its not that easy, it means singing the national anthem of not only Britain but England.

If the shoe was on the other foot, and the English national anthem was God Save the Queen but the British National Anthem was Land Of Our Fathers, in Welsh, the English would have a full cob on and be constantly complaing about having sing it. .

Only cos we can't speak Welsh

And we were forced to speak english xxx

I am sure if you want to speak Welsh you can"

I do mostly speak welsh xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would imagine that they didnt wish to sing it as it is also used as the english national anthem and they are not english. I find it boring.

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By *am sampsonMan
over a year ago

cwmbran


"Is there not a verse in God Save the Queen about crushing "those rebellious Scots"? Surely you cant expect Scotsmen/women to sing that regardless if the are representing GB

That was taken off in 1700 something so it seems, not sure if you were alive then to remember it

Should tell the Telegtaph that they used it for the Queens Diamond Jubilee

oh....someone pasted the whole thing from Wiki the other week, and it said it was removed in the 1700's....I will try and remember what thread it was to find it. "

Not saying it hasnt been removed and I wasnt really aware of it before this post, but googled it and the Telegraph published it on their website for the jubilee - but it does refer to god say the king so it sounds a bit iffy

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"Is there not a verse in God Save the Queen about crushing "those rebellious Scots"? Surely you cant expect Scotsmen/women to sing that regardless if the are representing GB

That was taken off in 1700 something so it seems, not sure if you were alive then to remember it

Should tell the Telegtaph that they used it for the Queens Diamond Jubilee

oh....someone pasted the whole thing from Wiki the other week, and it said it was removed in the 1700's....I will try and remember what thread it was to find it. "

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/109793

Found it on this thread, about a third of the way down. How true it is I don't know but thats what I read.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think its fair, speaking as a Welshman. I think there ought to be a British National Anthem that is inclusive for the Welsh, Scottish, Northern Irish and English, infact didnt it used to be Rule Brittania?

I have nothing against God Save the Queen and I would sing it happily if it was the British National Anthem and the English had their own anthem, such as Jerusalam but being as the English sing it as their National Anthem and then expect the rest of to sing it as the British anthem it just doesnt sit right.

But thats just my opinion."

Very well said

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By *ouplekink OP   Couple
over a year ago

kink town

There are only 5 official verses, that 6th verse was removed in the mid 1700s.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

quick question then.....how come Wales and Scotland and Nortern Ireland cant enter their own teams?

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By *ouplekink OP   Couple
over a year ago

kink town


"quick question then.....how come Wales and Scotland and Nortern Ireland cant enter their own teams?"

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By *o-jCouple
over a year ago

Outskirts of Notts

Good job they're called team gb and not team uk ...... not very united are we

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They are a bunch of ignorant fucks, then again I had a similar amount of disrespect when I moderated the welsh chatroom so it comes as no suprise tbh

Yes I know I didn't give 'welsh' a capital W, but I'm showing them the same level of disrespect as they are showing me and every othe English person

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"quick question then.....how come Wales and Scotland and Nortern Ireland cant enter their own teams?

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its a fair question isnt it?

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By *am sampsonMan
over a year ago

cwmbran


"They are a bunch of ignorant fucks, then again I had a similar amount of disrespect when I moderated the welsh chatroom so it comes as no suprise tbh

Yes I know I didn't give 'welsh' a capital W, but I'm showing them the same level of disrespect as they are showing me and every othe English person"

Why do you think they are dis respecting every other English person - that's an odd thing to say

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not heard of this story, but most English guys who play for England don't sing the anthem doesn't mean nothing I'm sure they are all proud to be playing for great Britain

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They are a bunch of ignorant fucks, then again I had a similar amount of disrespect when I moderated the welsh chatroom so it comes as no suprise tbh

Yes I know I didn't give 'welsh' a capital W, but I'm showing them the same level of disrespect as they are showing me and every othe English person

Why do you think they are dis respecting every other English person - that's an odd thing to say "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would only sing god save the queen if her majesty was present. I feel that the British national anthem has become the English national anthem and as I am not English I do not wish to sing god save the queen. At the commonwealth games england sing Jerusalem due to all the other nations putting pressure on england as all commonwealth country's could use god save the queen but don't as they had the creativity to get an identity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the Welsh, Irish, Scottish and English need to get over themselves, let past be past, grow the feck up and get along.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"I think the Welsh, Irish, Scottish and English need to get over themselves, let past be past, grow the feck up and get along. "

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over a year ago


"They are a bunch of ignorant fucks, then again I had a similar amount of disrespect when I moderated the welsh chatroom so it comes as no suprise tbh

Yes I know I didn't give 'welsh' a capital W, but I'm showing them the same level of disrespect as they are showing me and every othe English person

Why do you think they are dis respecting every other English person - that's an odd thing to say "

You think that's odd ?

Sorry fella, just my limited experiences of the taffs (and to some extent the Jocks) ....

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By *am sampsonMan
over a year ago

cwmbran


"I think the Welsh, Irish, Scottish and English need to get over themselves, let past be past, grow the feck up and get along. "

Except for a minority we all get along don't we - but the diferences between each nation make us what we are

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think the Welsh, Irish, Scottish and English need to get over themselves, let past be past, grow the feck up and get along.

Except for a minority we all get along don't we - but the diferences between each nation make us what we are "

Yup, we should accept and embrace our differences, not hate.

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By *hyguy 43Man
over a year ago

Swansea


"They are a bunch of ignorant fucks, then again I had a similar amount of disrespect when I moderated the welsh chatroom so it comes as no suprise tbh

Yes I know I didn't give 'welsh' a capital W, but I'm showing them the same level of disrespect as they are showing me and every othe English person

Why do you think they are dis respecting every other English person - that's an odd thing to say

You think that's odd ?

Sorry fella, just my limited experiences of the taffs (and to some extent the Jocks) ....

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Not a very nice person are you ?

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By *am sampsonMan
over a year ago

cwmbran


"They are a bunch of ignorant fucks, then again I had a similar amount of disrespect when I moderated the welsh chatroom so it comes as no suprise tbh

Yes I know I didn't give 'welsh' a capital W, but I'm showing them the same level of disrespect as they are showing me and every othe English person

Why do you think they are dis respecting every other English person - that's an odd thing to say

You think that's odd ?

Sorry fella, just my limited experiences of the taffs (and to some extent the Jocks) ....

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That doesnt explain why not singing the national anthem id disrespectful to all the English - and dont't you think it's a 2 way thing anyway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

to quote google the scotish verse was in the anthem but removed in 1745 before the anthem was accepted as the British national anthem in the 1780's, not that it matters i think everyone has the choice but i would like to see them all singing it and even more so when the english football players are playing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They are a bunch of ignorant fucks, then again I had a similar amount of disrespect when I moderated the welsh chatroom so it comes as no suprise tbh

Yes I know I didn't give 'welsh' a capital W, but I'm showing them the same level of disrespect as they are showing me and every othe English person

Why do you think they are dis respecting every other English person - that's an odd thing to say

You think that's odd ?

Sorry fella, just my limited experiences of the taffs (and to some extent the Jocks) ....

"

Major chip on your shoulder by the sounds of it. Ive met plenty of english who are ignorant twats but i certainly wouldnt tar them all with the same brush. If you dont like the Welsh then I doubt any of us will lose any sleep over it

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"I think the Welsh, Irish, Scottish and English need to get over themselves, let past be past, grow the feck up and get along.

Except for a minority we all get along don't we - but the diferences between each nation make us what we are "

Not from some comments I have seen over the years by a big percentage of people on the web ( I didn't have a clue about the venom before then )

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By *lam rockerMan
over a year ago

Tain


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In the case of the Olympics the country you are representing is Great Britain"
No it is not, it is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland - You have just excluded a chunk of the population of the country. You do have to remember though that God Save the King/Queen is a Scottish-bashing song!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They are a bunch of ignorant fucks, then again I had a similar amount of disrespect when I moderated the welsh chatroom so it comes as no suprise tbh

Yes I know I didn't give 'welsh' a capital W, but I'm showing them the same level of disrespect as they are showing me and every othe English person

Why do you think they are dis respecting every other English person - that's an odd thing to say

You think that's odd ?

Sorry fella, just my limited experiences of the taffs (and to some extent the Jocks) ....

Not a very nice person are you ?"

We are both very nice people to be honest, but that's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

On what basis do you you think we are not very nice ...? (Just out of curiosty, thats all)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They are a bunch of ignorant fucks, then again I had a similar amount of disrespect when I moderated the welsh chatroom so it comes as no suprise tbh

Yes I know I didn't give 'welsh' a capital W, but I'm showing them the same level of disrespect as they are showing me and every othe English person

Why do you think they are dis respecting every other English person - that's an odd thing to say

You think that's odd ?

Sorry fella, just my limited experiences of the taffs (and to some extent the Jocks) ....

Major chip on your shoulder by the sounds of it. Ive met plenty of english who are ignorant twats but i certainly wouldnt tar them all with the same brush. If you dont like the Welsh then I doubt any of us will lose any sleep over it "

No chip - just experience ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hey Jude united over 80,000 the other night, maybe we should sing that again.

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By *ouplekink OP   Couple
over a year ago

kink town


"Not heard of this story, but most English guys who play for England don't sing the anthem doesn't mean nothing I'm sure they are all proud to be playing for great Britain "

That used to be the case, however nowadays you watch them and there are only a couple that don't sing, and i think the same about them as these welsh muppets!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They are a bunch of ignorant fucks, then again I had a similar amount of disrespect when I moderated the welsh chatroom so it comes as no suprise tbh

Yes I know I didn't give 'welsh' a capital W, but I'm showing them the same level of disrespect as they are showing me and every othe English person

Why do you think they are dis respecting every other English person - that's an odd thing to say

You think that's odd ?

Sorry fella, just my limited experiences of the taffs (and to some extent the Jocks) ....

Major chip on your shoulder by the sounds of it. Ive met plenty of english who are ignorant twats but i certainly wouldnt tar them all with the same brush. If you dont like the Welsh then I doubt any of us will lose any sleep over it "

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


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In the case of the Olympics the country you are representing is Great BritainNo it is not, it is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland - You have just excluded a chunk of the population of the country. You do have to remember though that God Save the King/Queen is a Scottish-bashing song! "

We have established the scottish reference was dropped in the 1700's....surely no one can bear a grudge for that long

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By *ayjay218Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen

DWI
"They are a bunch of ignorant fucks, then again I had a similar amount of disrespect when I moderated the welsh chatroom so it comes as no suprise tbh

Yes I know I didn't give 'welsh' a capital W, but I'm showing them the same level of disrespect as they are showing me and every othe English person"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They are a bunch of ignorant fucks, then again I had a similar amount of disrespect when I moderated the welsh chatroom so it comes as no suprise tbh

Yes I know I didn't give 'welsh' a capital W, but I'm showing them the same level of disrespect as they are showing me and every othe English person

Why do you think they are dis respecting every other English person - that's an odd thing to say

You think that's odd ?

Sorry fella, just my limited experiences of the taffs (and to some extent the Jocks) ....

Major chip on your shoulder by the sounds of it. Ive met plenty of english who are ignorant twats but i certainly wouldnt tar them all with the same brush. If you dont like the Welsh then I doubt any of us will lose any sleep over it

No chip - just experience ...

"

Have you ever thought that maybe the reason every taff youve met has been an ignorant fuck may have something to with you?

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By *ittle-Miss-MuffetCouple
over a year ago

Chester / North Wales


"I think its fair, speaking as a Welshman. I think there ought to be a British National Anthem that is inclusive for the Welsh, Scottish, Northern Irish and English, infact didnt it used to be Rule Brittania?

I have nothing against God Save the Queen and I would sing it happily if it was the British National Anthem and the English had their own anthem, such as Jerusalam but being as the English sing it as their National Anthem and then expect the rest of to sing it as the British anthem it just doesnt sit right.

But thats just my opinion."

As and English woman with a Welsh partner, living in Wales, I couldn't agree more. It is regarded as the English national anthem rightly or wrongly. I have to say though, perhaps refusing to sing it on the pitch isn't the best way about it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

we are all part of the uk and they should have been pulled from team GB, we should be proud of the uk

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"hey Jude united over 80,000 the other night, maybe we should sing that again. "

Did it hell, half of the competitors were seen walking out...and I don't blame them he was awful !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There was a Thread earlier about The National Anthem ...

Now I am but a simple soul so maybe I have missed something.

But.

Its the National Anthem for all 5 countries that make up the United Kingdom. Team GB is therefore a slight misnomer but 'Great Britain' is recognised internationally as being the same thing. So the Anthem is entirely appropriate for the Olympics.

Now whether someone chooses to sing it or not is their choice entirely. As it is mine to think they are being disrespectful.

As to seperate Anthems for each Nation of the United Kingdom I can't see the problem as they exist and it was demonstrated wonderfully at the Opening Ceremony by the childrens choirs.

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By *ayjay218Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen


"I think the Welsh, Irish, Scottish and English need to get over themselves, let past be past, grow the feck up and get along. "
" and be a nation again"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"hey Jude united over 80,000 the other night, maybe we should sing that again.

Did it hell, half of the competitors were seen walking out...and I don't blame them he was awful !! "

...aye his singing was shite but the rest of the stadium made up for it lol. xxx

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By *arnaclebillMan
over a year ago

Robin Hood County


"I think its fair, speaking as a Welshman. I think there ought to be a British National Anthem that is inclusive for the Welsh, Scottish, Northern Irish and English, infact didnt it used to be Rule Brittania?

I have nothing against God Save the Queen and I would sing it happily if it was the British National Anthem and the English had their own anthem, such as Jerusalam but being as the English sing it as their National Anthem and then expect the rest of to sing it as the British anthem it just doesnt sit right.

But thats just my opinion."

For your information there IS a British National Anthem it is called "God save the Queen"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think the Welsh, Irish, Scottish and English need to get over themselves, let past be past, grow the feck up and get along. " and be a nation again"

"

well said

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


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In the case of the Olympics the country you are representing is Great BritainNo it is not, it is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland - You have just excluded a chunk of the population of the country. You do have to remember though that God Save the King/Queen is a Scottish-bashing song! "

so why are they listed as Great Britain on the line up then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They are a bunch of ignorant fucks, then again I had a similar amount of disrespect when I moderated the welsh chatroom so it comes as no suprise tbh

Yes I know I didn't give 'welsh' a capital W, but I'm showing them the same level of disrespect as they are showing me and every othe English person

Why do you think they are dis respecting every other English person - that's an odd thing to say

You think that's odd ?

Sorry fella, just my limited experiences of the taffs (and to some extent the Jocks) ....

Major chip on your shoulder by the sounds of it. Ive met plenty of english who are ignorant twats but i certainly wouldnt tar them all with the same brush. If you dont like the Welsh then I doubt any of us will lose any sleep over it

No chip - just experience ...

Have you ever thought that maybe the reason every taff youve met has been an ignorant fuck may have something to with you? "

It never crossed my mind tbh, but it's funny I've never had that problem with Englishmen.

Maybe the taffs just don't appreciate the English SOH ?

PS, whre did I mention about taffs that 'I'd met' ???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There was a Thread earlier about The National Anthem ...

Now I am but a simple soul so maybe I have missed something.

But.

Its the National Anthem for all 5 countries that make up the United Kingdom. Team GB is therefore a slight misnomer but 'Great Britain' is recognised internationally as being the same thing. So the Anthem is entirely appropriate for the Olympics.

Now whether someone chooses to sing it or not is their choice entirely. As it is mine to think they are being disrespectful.

As to seperate Anthems for each Nation of the United Kingdom I can't see the problem as they exist and it was demonstrated wonderfully at the Opening Ceremony by the childrens choirs. "
who are the 5 country's?

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By *ittle-Miss-MuffetCouple
over a year ago

Chester / North Wales


"Not heard of this story, but most English guys who play for England don't sing the anthem doesn't mean nothing I'm sure they are all proud to be playing for great Britain

That used to be the case, however nowadays you watch them and there are only a couple that don't sing, and i think the same about them as these welsh muppets! "

That's not quite true either. Last time I saw England play there were quite a few that either chose not to sing or didn't know the words to their own national anthem.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They are a bunch of ignorant fucks, then again I had a similar amount of disrespect when I moderated the welsh chatroom so it comes as no suprise tbh

Yes I know I didn't give 'welsh' a capital W, but I'm showing them the same level of disrespect as they are showing me and every othe English person

Why do you think they are dis respecting every other English person - that's an odd thing to say

You think that's odd ?

Sorry fella, just my limited experiences of the taffs (and to some extent the Jocks) ....

Major chip on your shoulder by the sounds of it. Ive met plenty of english who are ignorant twats but i certainly wouldnt tar them all with the same brush. If you dont like the Welsh then I doubt any of us will lose any sleep over it

No chip - just experience ...

Have you ever thought that maybe the reason every taff youve met has been an ignorant fuck may have something to with you?

It never crossed my mind tbh, but it's funny I've never had that problem with Englishmen.

Maybe the taffs just don't appreciate the English SOH ?

PS, whre did I mention about taffs that 'I'd met' ???

"

You're right. Why on earth wouldn't a Welsh person find being called an ignorant fuck amusing? Miserable twats the Welsh

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By *lam rockerMan
over a year ago

Tain


"]

That's not quite true either. Last time I saw England play there were quite a few that either chose not to sing or didn't know the words to their own national anthem."

I know the words!

God save the Queen and her fascist regime ...

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Not heard of this story, but most English guys who play for England don't sing the anthem doesn't mean nothing I'm sure they are all proud to be playing for great Britain

That used to be the case, however nowadays you watch them and there are only a couple that don't sing, and i think the same about them as these welsh muppets!

That's not quite true either. Last time I saw England play there were quite a few that either chose not to sing or didn't know the words to their own national anthem."

what sport?

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By *am sampsonMan
over a year ago

cwmbran


"They are a bunch of ignorant fucks, then again I had a similar amount of disrespect when I moderated the welsh chatroom so it comes as no suprise tbh

Yes I know I didn't give 'welsh' a capital W, but I'm showing them the same level of disrespect as they are showing me and every othe English person

Why do you think they are dis respecting every other English person - that's an odd thing to say

You think that's odd ?

Sorry fella, just my limited experiences of the taffs (and to some extent the Jocks) ....

Major chip on your shoulder by the sounds of it. Ive met plenty of english who are ignorant twats but i certainly wouldnt tar them all with the same brush. If you dont like the Welsh then I doubt any of us will lose any sleep over it

No chip - just experience ...

Have you ever thought that maybe the reason every taff youve met has been an ignorant fuck may have something to with you?

It never crossed my mind tbh, but it's funny I've never had that problem with Englishmen.

Maybe the taffs just don't appreciate the English SOH ?

PS, whre did I mention about taffs that 'I'd met' ???

"

Maybe they sensed the hostility from someone who had never even met them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's it, I vote we adopt Land of Hope and Glory as the team GB anthem.

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By *ittle-Miss-MuffetCouple
over a year ago

Chester / North Wales


"There was a Thread earlier about The National Anthem ...

Now I am but a simple soul so maybe I have missed something.

But.

Its the National Anthem for all 5 countries that make up the United Kingdom. Team GB is therefore a slight misnomer but 'Great Britain' is recognised internationally as being the same thing. So the Anthem is entirely appropriate for the Olympics.

Now whether someone chooses to sing it or not is their choice entirely. As it is mine to think they are being disrespectful.

As to seperate Anthems for each Nation of the United Kingdom I can't see the problem as they exist and it was demonstrated wonderfully at the Opening Ceremony by the childrens choirs. who are the 5 country's?"

Do you mean 4 countries, which was the count last time I checked. Also, Jerusalem is not the English national anthem officially (England doesn't have one), but perhaps it should be. It would go part of the way to addressing this - leaving God Save the Queen as the anthem on Britain and Northern Ireland as it was intended.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"]

That's not quite true either. Last time I saw England play there were quite a few that either chose not to sing or didn't know the words to their own national anthem.

I know the words!

God save the Queen and her fascist regime ... "
door is in front of you shut it on ur way out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They are a bunch of ignorant fucks, then again I had a similar amount of disrespect when I moderated the welsh chatroom so it comes as no suprise tbh

Yes I know I didn't give 'welsh' a capital W, but I'm showing them the same level of disrespect as they are showing me and every othe English person

Why do you think they are dis respecting every other English person - that's an odd thing to say

You think that's odd ?

Sorry fella, just my limited experiences of the taffs (and to some extent the Jocks) ....

Major chip on your shoulder by the sounds of it. Ive met plenty of english who are ignorant twats but i certainly wouldnt tar them all with the same brush. If you dont like the Welsh then I doubt any of us will lose any sleep over it

No chip - just experience ...

Have you ever thought that maybe the reason every taff youve met has been an ignorant fuck may have something to with you?

It never crossed my mind tbh, but it's funny I've never had that problem with Englishmen.

Maybe the taffs just don't appreciate the English SOH ?

PS, whre did I mention about taffs that 'I'd met' ???

You're right. Why on earth wouldn't a Welsh person find being called an ignorant fuck amusing? Miserable twats the Welsh "

In much the same way as an Englishman moderating a taff chatroom doesn't find it amusing to read comments of 'burn the English houses' just because he wasn't their 'usual' moderator. Now it that's indicitave of the taff way of thinking who can blame me for not exactly warming to them ?

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By *ouplekink OP   Couple
over a year ago

kink town


"]

That's not quite true either. Last time I saw England play there were quite a few that either chose not to sing or didn't know the words to their own national anthem.

I know the words!

God save the Queen and her fascist regime ... "

Remind me what verse that is in again?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There was a Thread earlier about The National Anthem ...

Now I am but a simple soul so maybe I have missed something.

But.

Its the National Anthem for all 5 countries that make up the United Kingdom. Team GB is therefore a slight misnomer but 'Great Britain' is recognised internationally as being the same thing. So the Anthem is entirely appropriate for the Olympics.

Now whether someone chooses to sing it or not is their choice entirely. As it is mine to think they are being disrespectful.

As to seperate Anthems for each Nation of the United Kingdom I can't see the problem as they exist and it was demonstrated wonderfully at the Opening Ceremony by the childrens choirs. who are the 5 country's?

Do you mean 4 countries, which was the count last time I checked. Also, Jerusalem is not the English national anthem officially (England doesn't have one), but perhaps it should be. It would go part of the way to addressing this - leaving God Save the Queen as the anthem on Britain and Northern Ireland as it was intended."
that's how many I counted lol

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By *am sampsonMan
over a year ago

cwmbran


"That's it, I vote we adopt Land of Hope and Glory as the team GB anthem. "

Stop stoking the (olympic) flames

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"That's it, I vote we adopt Land of Hope and Glory as the team GB anthem.

Stop stoking the (olympic) flames "

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By *ittle-Miss-MuffetCouple
over a year ago

Chester / North Wales


"They are a bunch of ignorant fucks, then again I had a similar amount of disrespect when I moderated the welsh chatroom so it comes as no suprise tbh

Yes I know I didn't give 'welsh' a capital W, but I'm showing them the same level of disrespect as they are showing me and every othe English person

Why do you think they are dis respecting every other English person - that's an odd thing to say

You think that's odd ?

Sorry fella, just my limited experiences of the taffs (and to some extent the Jocks) ....

Not a very nice person are you ?

We are both very nice people to be honest, but that's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

On what basis do you you think we are not very nice ...? (Just out of curiosty, thats all)"

Erm, not very nice on the grounds of racism, perhaps? And anyway, speaking of ignorance.. Taff? That's like me calling someone from Manchester a Cockney! Anyway, rant over..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They are a bunch of ignorant fucks, then again I had a similar amount of disrespect when I moderated the welsh chatroom so it comes as no suprise tbh

Yes I know I didn't give 'welsh' a capital W, but I'm showing them the same level of disrespect as they are showing me and every othe English person

Why do you think they are dis respecting every other English person - that's an odd thing to say

You think that's odd ?

Sorry fella, just my limited experiences of the taffs (and to some extent the Jocks) ....

Not a very nice person are you ?

We are both very nice people to be honest, but that's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

On what basis do you you think we are not very nice ...? (Just out of curiosty, thats all)

Erm, not very nice on the grounds of racism, perhaps? And anyway, speaking of ignorance.. Taff? That's like me calling someone from Manchester a Cockney! Anyway, rant over.."

Bollox

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well I for one hope everyone will be proud to hear the National anthem celebrating the achievement of any member of team GB during a medal ceremony and hope there’s not a strange twist of irony to this debate where members and supporters of Team GB only get to hear the National anthem at the beginning of an Olympic soccer match….!.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe they don't like the outdated principal of a monarchy, the Neville brothers never used to sing it when they played for England and didn't ever hear a fuss about them

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden


"]

That's not quite true either. Last time I saw England play there were quite a few that either chose not to sing or didn't know the words to their own national anthem.

I know the words!

God save the Queen and her fascist regime ... "

I just pray for your sake that you never have to live in a truly Facist regime! If your opinion of out great nations is that bad, I am sure we would all pay a little to ship you to a truly facist state! Anyone want to help with a one way ticket to North Korea for this, err... (No, think of the ban!) gentleman!

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By *hyguy 43Man
over a year ago

Swansea


"They are a bunch of ignorant fucks, then again I had a similar amount of disrespect when I moderated the welsh chatroom so it comes as no suprise tbh

Yes I know I didn't give 'welsh' a capital W, but I'm showing them the same level of disrespect as they are showing me and every othe English person

Why do you think they are dis respecting every other English person - that's an odd thing to say

You think that's odd ?

Sorry fella, just my limited experiences of the taffs (and to some extent the Jocks) ....

Not a very nice person are you ?

We are both very nice people to be honest, but that's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

On what basis do you you think we are not very nice ...? (Just out of curiosty, thats all)

Erm, not very nice on the grounds of racism, perhaps? And anyway, speaking of ignorance.. Taff? That's like me calling someone from Manchester a Cockney! Anyway, rant over..

Bollox"

And this is you being nice is it ?

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By *am sampsonMan
over a year ago

cwmbran


"Maybe they don't like the outdated principal of a monarchy, the Neville brothers never used to sing it when they played for England and didn't ever hear a fuss about them"

Thats because they are English - Rooney is another - but it seems that a fuss is only made when the Welsh Scots or N Irish don't sing it

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By *xonswingersCouple
over a year ago

Close to Oxford

"They are a bunch of ignorant fucks, then again I had a similar amount of disrespect when I moderated the welsh chatroom so it comes as no suprise tbh

Yes I know I didn't give 'welsh' a capital W, but I'm showing them the same level of disrespect as they are showing me and every othe English person"

You're an idiot.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"]

That's not quite true either. Last time I saw England play there were quite a few that either chose not to sing or didn't know the words to their own national anthem.

I know the words!

God save the Queen and her fascist regime ...

I just pray for your sake that you never have to live in a truly Facist regime! If your opinion of out great nations is that bad, I am sure we would all pay a little to ship you to a truly facist state! Anyone want to help with a one way ticket to North Korea for this, err... (No, think of the ban!) gentleman! "
Well said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Maybe they don't like the outdated principal of a monarchy, the Neville brothers never used to sing it when they played for England and didn't ever hear a fuss about them

Thats because they are English - Rooney is another - but it seems that a fuss is only made when the Welsh Scots or N Irish don't sing it"

Rooney probably doesnt know the words

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They are a bunch of ignorant fucks, then again I had a similar amount of disrespect when I moderated the welsh chatroom so it comes as no suprise tbh

Yes I know I didn't give 'welsh' a capital W, but I'm showing them the same level of disrespect as they are showing me and every othe English person

Why do you think they are dis respecting every other English person - that's an odd thing to say

You think that's odd ?

Sorry fella, just my limited experiences of the taffs (and to some extent the Jocks) ....

Not a very nice person are you ?

We are both very nice people to be honest, but that's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

On what basis do you you think we are not very nice ...? (Just out of curiosty, thats all)

Erm, not very nice on the grounds of racism, perhaps? And anyway, speaking of ignorance.. Taff? That's like me calling someone from Manchester a Cockney! Anyway, rant over..

Bollox

And this is you being nice is it ?"

No it's me being honest.

So if somebody calls me a Geordie they are being racist ? (I'm from Northumberland thus I'm a Northumbrian - so all you racists out there stop calling me a Geordie)

As I said

'Bollox'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They are a bunch of ignorant fucks, then again I had a similar amount of disrespect when I moderated the welsh chatroom so it comes as no suprise tbh

Yes I know I didn't give 'welsh' a capital W, but I'm showing them the same level of disrespect as they are showing me and every othe English person

Why do you think they are dis respecting every other English person - that's an odd thing to say

You think that's odd ?

Sorry fella, just my limited experiences of the taffs (and to some extent the Jocks) ....

Not a very nice person are you ?

We are both very nice people to be honest, but that's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

On what basis do you you think we are not very nice ...? (Just out of curiosty, thats all)

Erm, not very nice on the grounds of racism, perhaps? And anyway, speaking of ignorance.. Taff? That's like me calling someone from Manchester a Cockney! Anyway, rant over..

Bollox

And this is you being nice is it ?

No it's me being honest.

So if somebody calls me a Geordie they are being racist ? (I'm from Northumberland thus I'm a Northumbrian - so all you racists out there stop calling me a Geordie)

As I said

'Bollox'"

Yawn

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By *hyguy 43Man
over a year ago

Swansea


"They are a bunch of ignorant fucks, then again I had a similar amount of disrespect when I moderated the welsh chatroom so it comes as no suprise tbh

Yes I know I didn't give 'welsh' a capital W, but I'm showing them the same level of disrespect as they are showing me and every othe English person

Why do you think they are dis respecting every other English person - that's an odd thing to say

You think that's odd ?

Sorry fella, just my limited experiences of the taffs (and to some extent the Jocks) ....

Not a very nice person are you ?

We are both very nice people to be honest, but that's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

On what basis do you you think we are not very nice ...? (Just out of curiosty, thats all)

Erm, not very nice on the grounds of racism, perhaps? And anyway, speaking of ignorance.. Taff? That's like me calling someone from Manchester a Cockney! Anyway, rant over..

Bollox

And this is you being nice is it ?

No it's me being honest.

So if somebody calls me a Geordie they are being racist ? (I'm from Northumberland thus I'm a Northumbrian - so all you racists out there stop calling me a Geordie)

As I said

'Bollox'"

Ok Geordie go back to your newcastle brown

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

ok calm down people please....it was just a question.

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By *ouplekink OP   Couple
over a year ago

kink town


"Maybe they don't like the outdated principal of a monarchy, the Neville brothers never used to sing it when they played for England and didn't ever hear a fuss about them

Thats because they are English - Rooney is another - but it seems that a fuss is only made when the Welsh Scots or N Irish don't sing it"

Not at all i find it disgraceful that any player representing England choose not to sing the national anthem.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Great init.... yet another thread descends into the unpleasant reading of pathetic name calling and undisguised insults,,,

I hope it gets shut down,,,,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"ok calm down people please....it was just a question."
and still no ban mmmmm

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They are a bunch of ignorant fucks, then again I had a similar amount of disrespect when I moderated the welsh chatroom so it comes as no suprise tbh

Yes I know I didn't give 'welsh' a capital W, but I'm showing them the same level of disrespect as they are showing me and every othe English person

Why do you think they are dis respecting every other English person - that's an odd thing to say

You think that's odd ?

Sorry fella, just my limited experiences of the taffs (and to some extent the Jocks) ....

Not a very nice person are you ?

We are both very nice people to be honest, but that's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

On what basis do you you think we are not very nice ...? (Just out of curiosty, thats all)

Erm, not very nice on the grounds of racism, perhaps? And anyway, speaking of ignorance.. Taff? That's like me calling someone from Manchester a Cockney! Anyway, rant over..

Bollox

And this is you being nice is it ?

No it's me being honest.

So if somebody calls me a Geordie they are being racist ? (I'm from Northumberland thus I'm a Northumbrian - so all you racists out there stop calling me a Geordie)

As I said

'Bollox'

Ok Geordie go back to your newcastle brown "

Sorry taff - don't drink the vile brew - prefer Stella Cidre or ASDA own brand cider

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"ok calm down people please....it was just a question. and still no ban mmmmm"

why do you want me to ban you?

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"ok calm down people please....it was just a question. and still no ban mmmmm

why do you want me to ban you?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Great init.... yet another thread descends into the unpleasant reading of pathetic name calling and undisguised insults,,,

I hope it gets shut down,,,,

"

If it offends you don't bother reading it .. simple really

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They are a bunch of ignorant fucks, then again I had a similar amount of disrespect when I moderated the welsh chatroom so it comes as no suprise tbh

Yes I know I didn't give 'welsh' a capital W, but I'm showing them the same level of disrespect as they are showing me and every othe English person

Why do you think they are dis respecting every other English person - that's an odd thing to say

You think that's odd ?

Sorry fella, just my limited experiences of the taffs (and to some extent the Jocks) ....

"

Nothing like a touch of racism is there. What a vile thing to say.

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over a year ago


"Great init.... yet another thread descends into the unpleasant reading of pathetic name calling and undisguised insults,,,

I hope it gets shut down,,,,

If it offends you don't bother reading it .. simple really"

For goodness sake grow u

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

up lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"ok calm down people please....it was just a question. and still no ban mmmmm

why do you want me to ban you?"
you will find we haven't offended any one but read some of the text on here and any other day they would have been banned from the forums

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Freeeeeeedooooom!

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"ok calm down people please....it was just a question. and still no ban mmmmm

why do you want me to ban you? you will find we haven't offended any one "

Not today you havn't no.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

Ok maybe time to shut.

As always these type of threads get out of hand.

It really is a shame there is such a big divide.

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