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"POP FACT: Kerry Katona doesn't actually own a cat. " Kat Slater wears cats x | |||
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"The cat next door just wonders into my bedroom through the window. Makes himself comfy on my chair. Walks past the dog and even eats the dogs food x " My cat does this when I've got the window open in the summer. Flat roof: fence jump, roof and in. I'm woken by purring and a wet pussy in my face. (Not the variety I'd hoped for) | |||
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"Can’t control a cat like a dog, mine does dig a hole, then pops next to it, then fills the hole back in, but its one of the thickest cats around" Ours does that too. | |||
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"why do cat owners think its ok for cats to wander into peoples gardens and leave their mess everywhere, dog owners don't let it happen. if you have a litter tray , do they not use that - only asking as iv no idea. got new neighbours with 4 cats, and my garden is now covered with cat mess - don't tell me they bury it they don't I don't want to harm the animals but I need to do something soon I know cats roam and do this, but can owners not train them to use litter trays, im guessing its owners who just don't care" You need to get hold of some lion shit. Seriously, zoos sell it exactly for this purpose. Any cat will steer well clear of somewhere they think is the territory of a much bigger and stronger cat. | |||
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"The cat next door just wonders into my bedroom through the window. Makes himself comfy on my chair. Walks past the dog and even eats the dogs food x My cat does this when I've got the window open in the summer. Flat roof: fence jump, roof and in. I'm woken by purring and a wet pussy in my face. (Not the variety I'd hoped for) " That's you cat and his home.Its not my cat and it's not his home.It just burgles us for fuss sleep and food lol x | |||
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"why do cat owners think its ok for cats to wander into peoples gardens and leave their mess everywhere, dog owners don't let it happen. if you have a litter tray , do they not use that - only asking as iv no idea. got new neighbours with 4 cats, and my garden is now covered with cat mess - don't tell me they bury it they don't I don't want to harm the animals but I need to do something soon I know cats roam and do this, but can owners not train them to use litter trays, im guessing its owners who just don't care" At least if you have all these cats coming in your garden they will keep the mice and rats down as well for you | |||
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"why do cat owners think its ok for cats to wander into peoples gardens and leave their mess everywhere, dog owners don't let it happen. if you have a litter tray , do they not use that - only asking as iv no idea. got new neighbours with 4 cats, and my garden is now covered with cat mess - don't tell me they bury it they don't I don't want to harm the animals but I need to do something soon I know cats roam and do this, but can owners not train them to use litter trays, im guessing its owners who just don't care You need to get hold of some lion shit. Seriously, zoos sell it exactly for this purpose. Any cat will steer well clear of somewhere they think is the territory of a much bigger and stronger cat." Or just take a dump out there yourself. Sorted. | |||
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"why do cat owners think its ok for cats to wander into peoples gardens and leave their mess everywhere, dog owners don't let it happen. if you have a litter tray , do they not use that - only asking as iv no idea. got new neighbours with 4 cats, and my garden is now covered with cat mess - don't tell me they bury it they don't I don't want to harm the animals but I need to do something soon I know cats roam and do this, but can owners not train them to use litter trays, im guessing its owners who just don't care" 1--People don't OWN cats. Cats only let us think they do. 2--if you seriously think all people clean up after their dogs, you're deluded. Have you been out for a walk lately? ANYWHERE? | |||
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"why do cat owners think its ok for cats to wander into peoples gardens and leave their mess everywhere, dog owners don't let it happen. if you have a litter tray , do they not use that - only asking as iv no idea. got new neighbours with 4 cats, and my garden is now covered with cat mess - don't tell me they bury it they don't I don't want to harm the animals but I need to do something soon I know cats roam and do this, but can owners not train them to use litter trays, im guessing its owners who just don't care 1--People don't OWN cats. Cats only let us think they do. 2--if you seriously think all people clean up after their dogs, you're deluded. Have you been out for a walk lately? ANYWHERE?" 2 is very true and what's with all the little plastic bags full of dog poo left at the side of foot paths of bizarrely hanging from trees? | |||
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"POP FACT: Kerry Katona doesn't actually own a cat. Kat Slater wears cats x " You can make a kit car but not a kit-kat | |||
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"why do cat owners think its ok for cats to wander into peoples gardens and leave their mess everywhere, dog owners don't let it happen. if you have a litter tray , do they not use that - only asking as iv no idea. got new neighbours with 4 cats, and my garden is now covered with cat mess - don't tell me they bury it they don't I don't want to harm the animals but I need to do something soon I know cats roam and do this, but can owners not train them to use litter trays, im guessing its owners who just don't care 1--People don't OWN cats. Cats only let us think they do. 2--if you seriously think all people clean up after their dogs, you're deluded. Have you been out for a walk lately? ANYWHERE?" Most cat owners are too smart to keep an animal that they have to clean up after with a poly bag ! | |||
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"why do cat owners think its ok for cats to wander into peoples gardens and leave their mess everywhere, dog owners don't let it happen. if you have a litter tray , do they not use that - only asking as iv no idea. got new neighbours with 4 cats, and my garden is now covered with cat mess - don't tell me they bury it they don't I don't want to harm the animals but I need to do something soon I know cats roam and do this, but can owners not train them to use litter trays, im guessing its owners who just don't care 1--People don't OWN cats. Cats only let us think they do. 2--if you seriously think all people clean up after their dogs, you're deluded. Have you been out for a walk lately? ANYWHERE? 2 is very true and what's with all the little plastic bags full of dog poo left at the side of foot paths of bizarrely hanging from trees? " Iv got a hedge round my house (I'm on a corner) the amount of time people have thrown their poo bags in there is ridiculous. | |||
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"do people not understand, if they bag the dog poo and tie it to a tree, its 10 times worse than letting your dog shit on the path, beggars belief tbh on the original post, guy the other side of the problem has informed me he is getting a BB gun for the cats, hes a sick as me" BB gun I cant condone the use of it for a cat, water cannon too right. Cat shit from next door scoop up and flick it infront of there doorway there cat there mess and by law you have every right to give it back to them | |||
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"why do cat owners think its ok for cats to wander into peoples gardens and leave their mess everywhere, dog owners don't let it happen. if you have a litter tray , do they not use that - only asking as iv no idea. got new neighbours with 4 cats, and my garden is now covered with cat mess - don't tell me they bury it they don't I don't want to harm the animals but I need to do something soon I know cats roam and do this, but can owners not train them to use litter trays, im guessing its owners who just don't care" I have 2 cats and they only use a litter tray but you have to train them to do this from being kittens. I hate cat poo in the garden too. | |||
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"Is this a serious question? You can’t train a cat to come home and use a litter tray instead of someone’s garden. It’s a cat." Wrong - you can. The secret is in the word “train”. | |||
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"why do cat owners think its ok for cats to wander into peoples gardens and leave their mess everywhere, dog owners don't let it happen. if you have a litter tray , do they not use that - only asking as iv no idea. got new neighbours with 4 cats, and my garden is now covered with cat mess - don't tell me they bury it they don't I don't want to harm the animals but I need to do something soon I know cats roam and do this, but can owners not train them to use litter trays, im guessing its owners who just don't care" No dog owners take there dogs to the park and let them shit there and either leave it or actually put it in a bag but then tie it to a tree ! | |||
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"Get a lion. Apparently cats are scared of lions. " | |||
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"Get a lion. Apparently cats are scared of lions. " I don’t know why I found that so funny. I’m practically wetting myself here | |||
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"Put derp heat on a cloth and Bury it in your garden borders. The smell will deter cats and is humane" Deep heat not derp. Lol | |||
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"Get a lion. Apparently cats are scared of lions. I don’t know why I found that so funny. I’m practically wetting myself here " I’ve heard this too but lion pee and apparently you can buy it online | |||
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"Get a lion. Apparently cats are scared of lions. I don’t know why I found that so funny. I’m practically wetting myself here " I know a lady who used to get lion poo from a zoo near by to stop cats pooping on her garden, it worked the smell scared off the cats. | |||
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"Get a lion. Apparently cats are scared of lions. I don’t know why I found that so funny. I’m practically wetting myself here I’ve heard this too but lion pee and apparently you can buy it online " "Silent roar" is the stuff to go for, based on lion dung scent. | |||
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"Reminds me of a woman living down the road must b about 40 years ago ! Had this little cat at time must have pooped in her garden! She came knocked the door to complain! So I said I'm sorry I will have a word with the cat and tell her not to do that ever again! X " And this is exactly what I mean in the op, cat owners don't care once their cat goes out. we have cat shit on our drive this morning where the cats shit under the car I know its hard to stop , but as a earlier poster said they can be trained, im not a cat person so I dont know how difficult it would be, but I do know if the cats were shitting on the owners drive they would try to train it | |||
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"Cats will use a litter tray if they're indoors and unable to go out, but they can't be trained to use one *instead* of going outdoors - there are various deterrents available but how effective they are I don't know - have heard tell the gadget that emits a sound inaudible to the human ear but able to be heard by cats is quite effective. Best bet though is to have a polite word with your neighbours, explain that you know they are limited in what they can do, but that it is becoming a nuisance and would they object if you put out deterrents. That way you are at least making them aware of the problem, showing a level of understanding but also giving them an opportunity to assist where they can. " This. I use the battery powered movement operated sonic sound device. It’s about 20 quid and used a 9v battery. It takes about a week (and you must clean up or the smell brings them back as they consider your place to be a toilet) but trust me if your patient and leave it in place it works. After a few weeks they stay away and after a few months the cats are into a new habit of not going into your zone (I guess you’ll have trained them yourself). I don’t bother putting batteries in mine anymore and they still stay away. | |||
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"You can buy ultrasonic deterrents too. They're motion sensitive so if a cat comes near it let's off a very high pitch doubt that we can't hear but which annoys the cats enough that they leave. " Stops the teenagers hanging around too | |||
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"Reminds me of a woman living down the road must b about 40 years ago ! Had this little cat at time must have pooped in her garden! She came knocked the door to complain! So I said I'm sorry I will have a word with the cat and tell her not to do that ever again! X And this is exactly what I mean in the op, cat owners don't care once their cat goes out. we have cat shit on our drive this morning where the cats shit under the car I know its hard to stop , but as a earlier poster said they can be trained, im not a cat person so I dont know how difficult it would be, but I do know if the cats were shitting on the owners drive they would try to train it " Bit late as she is long dead! But one I have now uses her tray as she is 13 now and goes in the back garden and back in again! But as frustrating as it is! I've had other cats foul my garden and as a keen gardener have had it on my hands whilst gardening but there is absolutely nothing u can do about it apart from detergents! My son put one of those sprinkle things that sets of when motion is detected ! That worked for him ! Has no cats in his garden anymore! X | |||
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"well just got a very abusive disgusting mail from a cat owner, hoping horrible things happen to me despite me saying i didnt want to harm the cats, just wanted to try and stop them Seems she thinks its ok for them to do this and have my grandkids get covered in disgusting cat mess Tried to reply and ask why in a polite way without sinking to her level but she has obviously blocked me " Cat stop cats wandering but you can deter them by putting things in your garden | |||
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"Reminds me of a woman living down the road must b about 40 years ago ! Had this little cat at time must have pooped in her garden! She came knocked the door to complain! So I said I'm sorry I will have a word with the cat and tell her not to do that ever again! X And this is exactly what I mean in the op, cat owners don't care once their cat goes out. we have cat shit on our drive this morning where the cats shit under the car I know its hard to stop , but as a earlier poster said they can be trained, im not a cat person so I dont know how difficult it would be, but I do know if the cats were shitting on the owners drive they would try to train it " Hi. Please explain how to train a cat where to shit? My cats have decided that the rose bed of the lady across the road is ideal. Next door’s cat has decided that one of our flowerbeds is best. I clearly need to train them all not to do this, so please explain the training process | |||
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"why do cat owners think its ok for cats to wander into peoples gardens and leave their mess everywhere, dog owners don't let it happen. if you have a litter tray , do they not use that - only asking as iv no idea. got new neighbours with 4 cats, and my garden is now covered with cat mess - don't tell me they bury it they don't I don't want to harm the animals but I need to do something soon I know cats roam and do this, but can owners not train them to use litter trays, im guessing its owners who just don't care" Cats crap wherever they want to. No, it’s not because owners “just don’t care”, it’s because cats crap wherever they want to. Yes cats can be trained to use a litter tray, and if they are indoor cats then that works fine . If they also have access to the outdoor world then they will use the tray if they feel like it (eg if the weather is shit), otherwise will go to their usual favourite spots. Cats don’t crap on their own patch. Next door’s car uses our garden, our cats use the garden across the street. And yes, cats are extremely clean animals and almost always bury their crap. | |||
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"As a gardener I know the problems with animal shit. Id advise a sprinkle with lime in the first instance as it dries it up pretty quick then you can dispose of it better." Add a little umbrella to complete the presentation | |||
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"well just got a very abusive disgusting mail from a cat owner, hoping horrible things happen to me despite me saying i didnt want to harm the cats, just wanted to try and stop them Seems she thinks its ok for them to do this and have my grandkids get covered in disgusting cat mess Tried to reply and ask why in a polite way without sinking to her level but she has obviously blocked me " If you know cats (and othe animals presumably) shit in your garden why are you letting your grandkids play in the dirt before checking? Seriously though there is no solution to this. Cats roam. They are not as easy to control and train as dogs. There are things you can buy and do to deter them from entering your garden though. | |||
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"well just got a very abusive disgusting mail from a cat owner, hoping horrible things happen to me despite me saying i didnt want to harm the cats, just wanted to try and stop them Seems she thinks its ok for them to do this and have my grandkids get covered in disgusting cat mess Tried to reply and ask why in a polite way without sinking to her level but she has obviously blocked me If you know cats (and othe animals presumably) shit in your garden why are you letting your grandkids play in the dirt before checking? Seriously though there is no solution to this. Cats roam. They are not as easy to control and train as dogs. There are things you can buy and do to deter them from entering your garden though. " The cats are shitting everywhere, i do check do you really think i would let young kids play without checking !!!! | |||
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"As a gardener I know the problems with animal shit. Id advise a sprinkle with lime in the first instance as it dries it up pretty quick then you can dispose of it better. Add a little umbrella to complete the presentation " Very funny | |||
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"why do cat owners think its ok for cats to wander into peoples gardens and leave their mess everywhere, dog owners don't let it happen. if you have a litter tray , do they not use that - only asking as iv no idea. got new neighbours with 4 cats, and my garden is now covered with cat mess - don't tell me they bury it they don't I don't want to harm the animals but I need to do something soon I know cats roam and do this, but can owners not train them to use litter trays, im guessing its owners who just don't care Cats crap wherever they want to. No, it’s not because owners “just don’t care”, it’s because cats crap wherever they want to. Yes cats can be trained to use a litter tray, and if they are indoor cats then that works fine . If they also have access to the outdoor world then they will use the tray if they feel like it (eg if the weather is shit), otherwise will go to their usual favourite spots. Cats don’t crap on their own patch. Next door’s car uses our garden, our cats use the garden across the street. And yes, cats are extremely clean animals and almost always bury their crap. " Not allways the case my cat uses my garden only! She pops out does her business then back in! Then it's a race for me to go pick it up b 4 the 2 dogs get there first as they eat it! x | |||
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"why do cat owners think its ok for cats to wander into peoples gardens and leave their mess everywhere, dog owners don't let it happen. if you have a litter tray , do they not use that - only asking as iv no idea. got new neighbours with 4 cats, and my garden is now covered with cat mess - don't tell me they bury it they don't I don't want to harm the animals but I need to do something soon I know cats roam and do this, but can owners not train them to use litter trays, im guessing its owners who just don't care Cats crap wherever they want to. No, it’s not because owners “just don’t care”, it’s because cats crap wherever they want to. Yes cats can be trained to use a litter tray, and if they are indoor cats then that works fine . If they also have access to the outdoor world then they will use the tray if they feel like it (eg if the weather is shit), otherwise will go to their usual favourite spots. Cats don’t crap on their own patch. Next door’s car uses our garden, our cats use the garden across the street. And yes, cats are extremely clean animals and almost always bury their crap. Not allways the case my cat uses my garden only! She pops out does her business then back in! Then it's a race for me to go pick it up b 4 the 2 dogs get there first as they eat it! x" That’s doubly unlucky then, one that doesn’t bury and doesn’t travel! I’m still waiting for details from the person who thinks I should train my cat. | |||
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"why do cat owners think its ok for cats to wander into peoples gardens and leave their mess everywhere, dog owners don't let it happen. if you have a litter tray , do they not use that - only asking as iv no idea. got new neighbours with 4 cats, and my garden is now covered with cat mess - don't tell me they bury it they don't I don't want to harm the animals but I need to do something soon I know cats roam and do this, but can owners not train them to use litter trays, im guessing its owners who just don't care Cats crap wherever they want to. No, it’s not because owners “just don’t care”, it’s because cats crap wherever they want to. Yes cats can be trained to use a litter tray, and if they are indoor cats then that works fine . If they also have access to the outdoor world then they will use the tray if they feel like it (eg if the weather is shit), otherwise will go to their usual favourite spots. Cats don’t crap on their own patch. Next door’s car uses our garden, our cats use the garden across the street. And yes, cats are extremely clean animals and almost always bury their crap. Not allways the case my cat uses my garden only! She pops out does her business then back in! Then it's a race for me to go pick it up b 4 the 2 dogs get there first as they eat it! x That’s doubly unlucky then, one that doesn’t bury and doesn’t travel! I’m still waiting for details from the person who thinks I should train my cat. " maybe you should look above ive said i dont know how to train cats to use a litter tray , or if you even can - just that people on here have said they can be trained | |||
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"It is a tricky one. My cat is trained to use her litter tray and will in bad weather, but prefers to go outside, in our garden. We have several other cats go in our garden to. Most of them bury it." So they can be trained, thank you for your comment | |||
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"It is a tricky one. My cat is trained to use her litter tray and will in bad weather, but prefers to go outside, in our garden. We have several other cats go in our garden to. Most of them bury it. So they can be trained, thank you for your comment" Not really. Exactly as I had posted, you can train a cat to use a litter tray (easy when they have no alternative, when they are melt indoors), but if they have access to getting outdoors then they will decide whether to use the tray or a flowerbed. The tray looks good when it’s pissing rain or minus 5. Other than that, as I posted, cats crap wherever they like. Luckily, they almost always means a nearly buried turd. I have had about a dozen cats in my lifetime. All were meticulous buriers. This was not down to me training them. | |||
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"It is a tricky one. My cat is trained to use her litter tray and will in bad weather, but prefers to go outside, in our garden. We have several other cats go in our garden to. Most of them bury it. So they can be trained, thank you for your comment Not really. Exactly as I had posted, you can train a cat to use a litter tray (easy when they have no alternative, when they are melt indoors), but if they have access to getting outdoors then they will decide whether to use the tray or a flowerbed. The tray looks good when it’s pissing rain or minus 5. Other than that, as I posted, cats crap wherever they like. Luckily, they almost always means a nearly buried turd. I have had about a dozen cats in my lifetime. All were meticulous buriers. This was not down to me training them. " Would prefer un buried Turds as nothing worse than working the ground as dont wear gardening gloves than coming across a buried one! X | |||
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"It is a tricky one. My cat is trained to use her litter tray and will in bad weather, but prefers to go outside, in our garden. We have several other cats go in our garden to. Most of them bury it. So they can be trained, thank you for your comment" No, they can’t be “trained” in the way they you are hoping. A better word might be “learn”. They learn how to use a tray, and then decide whether to use it or not. One of my cats was unwell a few years ago and needed some r and r after treatment, so we dug out the old tray and he used it exclusively. As soon as he started feeling better it was back to the rose bed across the road. | |||
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"I think it's more of a habit thing than training my son got a cat that was allways a indoor cat! It's not now he has him! But he still will not go outside will come into use the tray then go back out so more a habit thing x" I had 2 indoor cats who took the outdoor life and never looked at the tray again. Like I say, the cat decides! | |||
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"I think it's more of a habit thing than training my son got a cat that was allways a indoor cat! It's not now he has him! But he still will not go outside will come into use the tray then go back out so more a habit thing x I had 2 indoor cats who took the outdoor life and never looked at the tray again. Like I say, the cat decides! " Very true cats rule! Dogs do as they are told lol x | |||
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"I think it's more of a habit thing than training my son got a cat that was allways a indoor cat! It's not now he has him! But he still will not go outside will come into use the tray then go back out so more a habit thing x I had 2 indoor cats who took the outdoor life and never looked at the tray again. Like I say, the cat decides! " Yep. Mine used thd tray ehrn kittens (sometimes) then went outside. Now she's blind she's an indoor cat again. She'll shit in her tray but piss on her bed. Fucking thing. | |||
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"Dogs will do it if they can get through or over the fence. My neighbours dogs have bulldozed their way through my fence before, then pooped in my garden, and my dogs have got into their garden and pooped before too. If dogs could jump fences like cats can there would be more poop in other people's gardens. " ... and none of it would be buried! Unrelated, but a question that dog owners might be able to help with. What is the thinking when a dog owner bags up their dog’s shit and then hangs if off a tree or a bush instead of taking it home? I see this every day. | |||
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"Dogs will do it if they can get through or over the fence. My neighbours dogs have bulldozed their way through my fence before, then pooped in my garden, and my dogs have got into their garden and pooped before too. If dogs could jump fences like cats can there would be more poop in other people's gardens. ... and none of it would be buried! Unrelated, but a question that dog owners might be able to help with. What is the thinking when a dog owner bags up their dog’s shit and then hangs if off a tree or a bush instead of taking it home? I see this every day. " Allways wonder this! Poop trees all over! Would b better to leave on floor than do that! Would decompose quicker x | |||
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"Dogs will do it if they can get through or over the fence. My neighbours dogs have bulldozed their way through my fence before, then pooped in my garden, and my dogs have got into their garden and pooped before too. If dogs could jump fences like cats can there would be more poop in other people's gardens. ... and none of it would be buried! Unrelated, but a question that dog owners might be able to help with. What is the thinking when a dog owner bags up their dog’s shit and then hangs if off a tree or a bush instead of taking it home? I see this every day. Allways wonder this! Poop trees all over! Would b better to leave on floor than do that! Would decompose quicker x" Yeah, if they’re not going to bring it home and dispose of it, then not bagging it at all would be better. I’m hoping a dog owner can explain this to me, why trees by the riverbank always have bags of dogshite dangling off them. | |||
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"Dogs will do it if they can get through or over the fence. My neighbours dogs have bulldozed their way through my fence before, then pooped in my garden, and my dogs have got into their garden and pooped before too. If dogs could jump fences like cats can there would be more poop in other people's gardens. ... and none of it would be buried! Unrelated, but a question that dog owners might be able to help with. What is the thinking when a dog owner bags up their dog’s shit and then hangs if off a tree or a bush instead of taking it home? I see this every day. Allways wonder this! Poop trees all over! Would b better to leave on floor than do that! Would decompose quicker x" Actually they say the excessive nutrients are not good for nature as most native areas rely on low amounts of nutrients. It really is a problem and leads to the proliferation of things like giant hog which push out the native flowers. On the subject of slung bags, I find it unbelievably ignorant. I was at area of special scientific interest recently and there were slung bags in the trees. Plus fly tipped waste in the carpark. Unnecessary and gives me little faith in the ability to improve our environment. | |||
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"Just scoop up the cat poo and hand it to the person who’s cat it is. That’s what I did. Also, there are some high pitched devices you can get from B&Q etc that deter them. There are various settings, but if you’ve a dog it’ll send it crazy too. " How do you know that specific shit belonged to that particular cat and owner? Too much time in your hands | |||
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"Just scoop up the cat poo and hand it to the person who’s cat it is. That’s what I did. Also, there are some high pitched devices you can get from B&Q etc that deter them. There are various settings, but if you’ve a dog it’ll send it crazy too. " unless you see said cat doing it, you won't know whose it is.. And cats tend to Bury it... other wild animals don't though. Most of mine are house cats and even those that aren't seem to prefer to pop back I to use their nice clean litter trays as opposed to getting their delicate little paws dirty outside. It's not that cat owners don't care either of they are doing it elsewhere. Cats roam, it's the nature of it. And before anyone says its cruel to keep cats in.. the house cats in my house all have a health complication or disability. I have one who is pretty much blind. She can go out but only stays in our garden as she knows her way around it after a year of us helping her learn. | |||
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"Just scoop up the cat poo and hand it to the person who’s cat it is. That’s what I did. Also, there are some high pitched devices you can get from B&Q etc that deter them. There are various settings, but if you’ve a dog it’ll send it crazy too. unless you see said cat doing it, you won't know whose it is.. And cats tend to Bury it... other wild animals don't though. Most of mine are house cats and even those that aren't seem to prefer to pop back I to use their nice clean litter trays as opposed to getting their delicate little paws dirty outside. It's not that cat owners don't care either of they are doing it elsewhere. Cats roam, it's the nature of it. And before anyone says its cruel to keep cats in.. the house cats in my house all have a health complication or disability. I have one who is pretty much blind. She can go out but only stays in our garden as she knows her way around it after a year of us helping her learn. " Luckily working from home overlooking the back garden has helped! Siamese one. Only two on our street with that collar owned by the person who also has 8 other cats. | |||
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