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"Finish everything on your plate or no pudding.. Now I feel like I can't stop eating even if full " Definitely this - usually adding ‘there are children in Ethiopia that would be glad to have that’ | |||
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""I love you because you're my daughter, but I don't like you" So love is conditional and ONLY because you gave birth to me? Don't I feel special." That's really sad! My biological Dad placed a lot of emphasis on looks when I was younger and would do that lovely thing of comparing me and my sister - she was beauty and I was brains because clearly you couldn't have both. Or he'd sit me down and tell me that I needed to study harder and be smarter than the other students because I didn't have my looks to fall back on. I think that's why now I quickly poo poo any compliment about my looks and push to do well at work. Maybe. | |||
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"“Father Christmas won’t come if you don’t behave/go to bed/listen/etc” surely it is better to deal with problems at that specific moment rather than threaten with something that won’t happen for a very long time. Freya x" Agree completely. And let's be honest, I've never known Father Christmas no show so it's an idle threat that holds no weight and only reinforces no consequences anyway | |||
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"Parents say. We've all heard parents say things, whether it be frustration of whatever. Some of these things can be really damaging. One of my mums favourites was "stop crying or I'll give you something to cry about" That's soooooo crushing. It makes you feel like your emotions are wrong, that there's something wrong with you as a person. It also creates a void because you grow up not having the trust that you can approach that parent with a problem you may be having because you think you'll get scolded for it. Over to you lot." Totally agree with this I taught myself not to cry when I was younger because apparently "real men" don't cry, so as much as I can get upset by something I won't cry and it haunts me to this day | |||
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"I'm lucky, my parents never said anything to make me feel bad about myself. I didn't realise parents could be so insensitive. " I think we all damage our children to a greater or lesser degree. None of us are perfect. | |||
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"I think it's good to talk about this stuff and the lasting impact. It can sometimes help other people recognise something about themselves that they might not understand or be able to put their finger on, then all of a sudden reading one comment that strikes a chord and kapow, lightbulb moment " Definitely Or that experiences of today could be lessons learned for tomorrow. I got kids myself and I do try to do my best for them. We all do really but as the saying goes.. there is no manual to parenting, just gotta do your best | |||
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""I love you because you're my daughter, but I don't like you" So love is conditional and ONLY because you gave birth to me? Don't I feel special." Whereas I will say that "sometimes I dont like you very much right now, but I always love you", wondering about that now | |||
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""I love you because you're my daughter, but I don't like you" So love is conditional and ONLY because you gave birth to me? Don't I feel special. Whereas I will say that "sometimes I dont like you very much right now, but I always love you", wondering about that now " I'd probably change it to I don't like how you're behaving rather than "you" To me "you" felt so very encompassing on me as an entire being | |||
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""I love you because you're my daughter, but I don't like you" So love is conditional and ONLY because you gave birth to me? Don't I feel special. Whereas I will say that "sometimes I dont like you very much right now, but I always love you", wondering about that now I'd probably change it to I don't like how you're behaving rather than "you" To me "you" felt so very encompassing on me as an entire being" I agree and shall change my language going forward xx | |||
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"My mother was/is a curious mixture. She never said anything really awful to me but some of her actions were nasty and it wasn't until I spoke to Mr N about it and he was utterly shocked that I even realised it. My father is as much to blame though because he stood by. I had an aunt and an uncle who looking back used to try and make up for it though. I know my mother's periods of mental ill health contributed to her behaviour but when you're young you don't understand that. " Still think my mum bi polar stil is.. One minute I was her princess next a slag or a nasty bitch when younger Now 50 I'm the best daughter in the world and when I can't do something for her I'm selfish and crap mother bringing him up as a friend rather than a mother lol learnt I can't win xx | |||
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"When you continually criticise your children they don't stop loving you, they stop loving themselves. " To a point.... eventually they can stop loving you as well. | |||
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"Nearly two years ago, I left an abusive relationship and have struggled with anxiety and depression since. My Mum came round my house one day and declared it such a mess (it really wasn't, some crumbs on the kitchen floor and washing that needed putting away) that if social services saw the state, they'd take my daughter away. " And even if it was such as mess, she should have identified maybe you needed a bit of support not criticism! Things said by parents sting more because they are our pillars that we have looked up to, sometimes their comments are very damaging to self esteem. | |||
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"I deleted this earlier because it felt too close to the core, but fuck it, I'll share.... "It's because of you (I try to kill myself)" "I should have given you away like I wanted to, we would all be happier" And my personal favourite... "I wish you were dead" This has been going on for over 25 years, and it took a long time for it to stop cutting me right to the heart every time. These days I roll my eyes, or to the the last one she just gets "oh, right now so do I. Would save us having this conversation again" My mother is a delight We have only spoken a handful of times in the last 2.5 years, after I decided I can't have the toxicity in my life any more. I am lucky that my dad has always been my rock, and even though he's only recently found out about any of this (and was devastated when he did), he's always known she's not been very nice to me since I was a teenager. I'd agree with this... When you continually criticise your children they don't stop loving you, they stop loving themselves. To a point.... eventually they can stop loving you as well." It's the eventually that does the most damage tho eh, it takes years to happen and by that time... *sigh* | |||
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"I deleted this earlier because it felt too close to the core, but fuck it, I'll share.... "It's because of you (I try to kill myself)" "I should have given you away like I wanted to, we would all be happier" And my personal favourite... "I wish you were dead" This has been going on for over 25 years, and it took a long time for it to stop cutting me right to the heart every time. These days I roll my eyes, or to the the last one she just gets "oh, right now so do I. Would save us having this conversation again" My mother is a delight We have only spoken a handful of times in the last 2.5 years, after I decided I can't have the toxicity in my life any more. I am lucky that my dad has always been my rock, and even though he's only recently found out about any of this (and was devastated when he did), he's always known she's not been very nice to me since I was a teenager. I'd agree with this... When you continually criticise your children they don't stop loving you, they stop loving themselves. To a point.... eventually they can stop loving you as well. It's the eventually that does the most damage tho eh, it takes years to happen and by that time... *sigh*" Yep. Definitely.... | |||
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"I deleted this earlier because it felt too close to the core, but fuck it, I'll share.... "It's because of you (I try to kill myself)" "I should have given you away like I wanted to, we would all be happier" And my personal favourite... "I wish you were dead" This has been going on for over 25 years, and it took a long time for it to stop cutting me right to the heart every time. These days I roll my eyes, or to the the last one she just gets "oh, right now so do I. Would save us having this conversation again" My mother is a delight We have only spoken a handful of times in the last 2.5 years, after I decided I can't have the toxicity in my life any more. I am lucky that my dad has always been my rock, and even though he's only recently found out about any of this (and was devastated when he did), he's always known she's not been very nice to me since I was a teenager. I'd agree with this... When you continually criticise your children they don't stop loving you, they stop loving themselves. To a point.... eventually they can stop loving you as well." I know these sayings only too well. Another classic was me and my sister are walking abortions that never happened ! Very deep. I resented my mother for many years until I was old enough to try and understand why she was so hard and cold I used to just say it how she it but that’s not ok, I realised she had had a breakdown when my Dad cheated and our family was broken, it doesn’t justify or excuse cruelty but as an adult and a single Parent it really did help see things in a diff perspective. It also helped my how NOT to be, with my own xx I find that this experiences if they don’t break you, make you us who we are today xxx | |||
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"I deleted this earlier because it felt too close to the core, but fuck it, I'll share.... "It's because of you (I try to kill myself)" "I should have given you away like I wanted to, we would all be happier" And my personal favourite... "I wish you were dead" This has been going on for over 25 years, and it took a long time for it to stop cutting me right to the heart every time. These days I roll my eyes, or to the the last one she just gets "oh, right now so do I. Would save us having this conversation again" My mother is a delight We have only spoken a handful of times in the last 2.5 years, after I decided I can't have the toxicity in my life any more. I am lucky that my dad has always been my rock, and even though he's only recently found out about any of this (and was devastated when he did), he's always known she's not been very nice to me since I was a teenager. I'd agree with this... When you continually criticise your children they don't stop loving you, they stop loving themselves. To a point.... eventually they can stop loving you as well." My dad said the exact same thing. He threw an empty bottle of pills at me said it was my fault and that my sister will always hate me and then drove off at speed. I stopped talking to him for 5 maybe more years after that and have little contact with him now. I do not love him haven't since I don't know when. Think that was the most difficult thing to accept that just because they are your parent you don't have to love them | |||
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"I deleted this earlier because it felt too close to the core, but fuck it, I'll share.... "It's because of you (I try to kill myself)" "I should have given you away like I wanted to, we would all be happier" And my personal favourite... "I wish you were dead" This has been going on for over 25 years, and it took a long time for it to stop cutting me right to the heart every time. These days I roll my eyes, or to the the last one she just gets "oh, right now so do I. Would save us having this conversation again" My mother is a delight We have only spoken a handful of times in the last 2.5 years, after I decided I can't have the toxicity in my life any more. I am lucky that my dad has always been my rock, and even though he's only recently found out about any of this (and was devastated when he did), he's always known she's not been very nice to me since I was a teenager. I'd agree with this... When you continually criticise your children they don't stop loving you, they stop loving themselves. To a point.... eventually they can stop loving you as well. My dad said the exact same thing. He threw an empty bottle of pills at me said it was my fault and that my sister will always hate me and then drove off at speed. I stopped talking to him for 5 maybe more years after that and have little contact with him now. I do not love him haven't since I don't know when. Think that was the most difficult thing to accept that just because they are your parent you don't have to love them " No we don’t, and when we learn to love ourselves enough truly we then know who is and isn’t worthy of our! We all Find ourselves at diff stages in live but when we do, WE DO. Self love is the purest of all and the most important yet we don’t think we’re worthy of it because of childhood experiences like those above xxx forums like these are great as they highlight things and give ppl a platform to out their experience without shame or feeling inadequate xx Thankyou OP I feel lifted after reading and sharing xxx | |||
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""I love you because you're my daughter, but I don't like you" So love is conditional and ONLY because you gave birth to me? Don't I feel special. That's really sad! My biological Dad placed a lot of emphasis on looks when I was younger and would do that lovely thing of comparing me and my sister - she was beauty and I was brains because clearly you couldn't have both. Or he'd sit me down and tell me that I needed to study harder and be smarter than the other students because I didn't have my looks to fall back on. I think that's why now I quickly poo poo any compliment about my looks and push to do well at work. Maybe. " Your dad was very much mistaken. | |||
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"I deleted this earlier because it felt too close to the core, but fuck it, I'll share.... "It's because of you (I try to kill myself)" "I should have given you away like I wanted to, we would all be happier" And my personal favourite... "I wish you were dead" This has been going on for over 25 years, and it took a long time for it to stop cutting me right to the heart every time. These days I roll my eyes, or to the the last one she just gets "oh, right now so do I. Would save us having this conversation again" My mother is a delight We have only spoken a handful of times in the last 2.5 years, after I decided I can't have the toxicity in my life any more. I am lucky that my dad has always been my rock, and even though he's only recently found out about any of this (and was devastated when he did), he's always known she's not been very nice to me since I was a teenager. I'd agree with this... When you continually criticise your children they don't stop loving you, they stop loving themselves. To a point.... eventually they can stop loving you as well." | |||
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"I deleted this earlier because it felt too close to the core, but fuck it, I'll share.... "It's because of you (I try to kill myself)" "I should have given you away like I wanted to, we would all be happier" And my personal favourite... "I wish you were dead" This has been going on for over 25 years, and it took a long time for it to stop cutting me right to the heart every time. These days I roll my eyes, or to the the last one she just gets "oh, right now so do I. Would save us having this conversation again" My mother is a delight We have only spoken a handful of times in the last 2.5 years, after I decided I can't have the toxicity in my life any more. I am lucky that my dad has always been my rock, and even though he's only recently found out about any of this (and was devastated when he did), he's always known she's not been very nice to me since I was a teenager. I'd agree with this... When you continually criticise your children they don't stop loving you, they stop loving themselves. To a point.... eventually they can stop loving you as well. " If things are getting me down or I have a problem, my parents even my siblings were and still the ones I wouldnt turn to.. As they would either put me down or use it on me later. | |||
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"Think that was the most difficult thing to accept that just because they are your parent you don't have to love them " That's so true. I know it made me feel like a total failure. I couldn't even love the person who had given birth to me. | |||
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"Think that was the most difficult thing to accept that just because they are your parent you don't have to love them That's so true. I know it made me feel like a total failure. I couldn't even love the person who had given birth to me." Unfortunately that realisation is often a long time coming. | |||
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"Think that was the most difficult thing to accept that just because they are your parent you don't have to love them That's so true. I know it made me feel like a total failure. I couldn't even love the person who had given birth to me." There is most definitely a huge feeling of being a complete failure as a human being. How can anyone love you when your own parent doesn't? Takes a hell of a lot of work to get to the point where you realise it wasn't you who was unliveable but them. | |||
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"Think that was the most difficult thing to accept that just because they are your parent you don't have to love them That's so true. I know it made me feel like a total failure. I couldn't even love the person who had given birth to me. There is most definitely a huge feeling of being a complete failure as a human being. How can anyone love you when your own parent doesn't? Takes a hell of a lot of work to get to the point where you realise it wasn't you who was unliveable but them." That's exactly it. And I'm working on it | |||
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"Think that was the most difficult thing to accept that just because they are your parent you don't have to love them That's so true. I know it made me feel like a total failure. I couldn't even love the person who had given birth to me. Unfortunately that realisation is often a long time coming." Too long | |||
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"How many of us reflect on how we were parented through the lense of becoming parents ourselves and think...fuck, this job is hard. And then forgive, or at least understand " I have thought long and hard about this and definitely tried not to repeat their mistakes, there are some things I can't forgive or understand BUT I'm well aware that I will have made mistakes with my own children some I'm painfully aware of and others (and this is probably worse) that I'm not. The Larkin poem This Be The Verse is very apt. I'm of the attitude that you can't change the past but you can change how you live with it | |||
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"I'm lucky, my parents never said anything to make me feel bad about myself. I didn't realise parents could be so insensitive. I think we all damage our children to a greater or lesser degree. None of us are perfect. " I honestly can't think of anything that my parents said or did to damage me. I may have been upset now and then but I wouldn't say it damaged me. | |||
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"How many of us reflect on how we were parented through the lense of becoming parents ourselves and think...fuck, this job is hard. And then forgive, or at least understand I have thought long and hard about this and definitely tried not to repeat their mistakes, there are some things I can't forgive or understand BUT I'm well aware that I will have made mistakes with my own children some I'm painfully aware of and others (and this is probably worse) that I'm not. The Larkin poem This Be The Verse is very apt. I'm of the attitude that you can't change the past but you can change how you live with it" Yes, I was thinking about Larkin as I read through. It's uncomfortable to put our own parenting under the microscope, so I acknowledge I haven't always got it right and then move my thoughts on | |||
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"How many of us reflect on how we were parented through the lense of becoming parents ourselves and think...fuck, this job is hard. And then forgive, or at least understand " One of the reasons I can be less sad about not having kids is because it means I'll never be able to fuck up a human that badly. | |||
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"How many of us reflect on how we were parented through the lense of becoming parents ourselves and think...fuck, this job is hard. And then forgive, or at least understand " I always think parenting is hard it was difficult decision to become a parent after the mess of if it my parents made. I did genuinely consider not having children as I didn't want to "turn into" my parents. Although as an adult I accept what they did and even forgive to a point, I will never understand how you can treat another human being in such a way. In my circumstances they didn't speak to other grown ups in such a manner, indicating they were at least aware it wasn't acceptable. | |||
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"How many of us reflect on how we were parented through the lense of becoming parents ourselves and think...fuck, this job is hard. And then forgive, or at least understand I have thought long and hard about this and definitely tried not to repeat their mistakes, there are some things I can't forgive or understand BUT I'm well aware that I will have made mistakes with my own children some I'm painfully aware of and others (and this is probably worse) that I'm not. The Larkin poem This Be The Verse is very apt. I'm of the attitude that you can't change the past but you can change how you live with it Yes, I was thinking about Larkin as I read through. It's uncomfortable to put our own parenting under the microscope, so I acknowledge I haven't always got it right and then move my thoughts on" Exceedingly uncomfortable. | |||
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"“Father Christmas won’t come if you don’t behave/go to bed/listen/etc” surely it is better to deal with problems at that specific moment rather than threaten with something that won’t happen for a very long time. Freya x Agree completely. And let's be honest, I've never known Father Christmas no show so it's an idle threat that holds no weight and only reinforces no consequences anyway " Absolutely, couldn’t agree more. Freya | |||
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"Overheard a mum talking to their spawn at a bus stop many many years ago. “If you don’t start behaving, the pedophiles will get you” Still to this day I know if I was impressed or appalled. Fucking funny either way. " Funny as fuck! Question is... did it work? | |||
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" But, in filling in the gaps it does help me, and it helps me accept that yeah, my cylinder firing may be off as far as certain things go..... like healthy adult relationships coz I choose the wrong energy But now I know to avoid them and even though it brings sadness that I'll never have a happy ending that way, I understand it. I've resigned acceptance that to break the cycle I have to leave that dream for someone else to chase." That's actually sad to read and very defeatist. Don't you want more than that from life? | |||
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" But, in filling in the gaps it does help me, and it helps me accept that yeah, my cylinder firing may be off as far as certain things go..... like healthy adult relationships coz I choose the wrong energy But now I know to avoid them and even though it brings sadness that I'll never have a happy ending that way, I understand it. I've resigned acceptance that to break the cycle I have to leave that dream for someone else to chase. That's actually sad to read and very defeatist. Don't you want more than that from life?" Yeah, I want to be happy. But ultimately my 'predisposition' I'll call it means the dudes I fall for tend to be the ones that aren't healthy for me. The temporary happiness comes at a cost and that cost is my sense of self. A repetitive cycle I just don't know how to avoid without avoiding it completely. | |||
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" But, in filling in the gaps it does help me, and it helps me accept that yeah, my cylinder firing may be off as far as certain things go..... like healthy adult relationships coz I choose the wrong energy But now I know to avoid them and even though it brings sadness that I'll never have a happy ending that way, I understand it. I've resigned acceptance that to break the cycle I have to leave that dream for someone else to chase. That's actually sad to read and very defeatist. Don't you want more than that from life? Yeah, I want to be happy. But ultimately my 'predisposition' I'll call it means the dudes I fall for tend to be the ones that aren't healthy for me. The temporary happiness comes at a cost and that cost is my sense of self. A repetitive cycle I just don't know how to avoid without avoiding it completely. " You could break that cycle and make different choices | |||
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