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"What people say about others says more about them usually. I never let anyone tell me how to feel about someone, and until I know that person I rarely make judgements. I don't like people who do nothing but talk about other people. " One million percent this. Make your own judgements about people. | |||
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"I like to for my own opinion of people, I will listen to what others have to say but I generally don't let them influence me, I trust my own judgement " Good call.... take the thoughts but use your own mind... | |||
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"What people say about others says more about them usually. I never let anyone tell me how to feel about someone, and until I know that person I rarely make judgements. I don't like people who do nothing but talk about other people. " That's why you're the top 3 forumite! Sensible lady.... | |||
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"It depends on who I’m listening to, some people’s opinions on things matter more to me than others and other people may be more qualified etc to have an opinion. I’d like to think I formulate my on opinion ultimately but would consider others opinions to formulate part of the decision process. " This One or two people I trust implicitly and are not prone to gossip. If they tell me something about another person it's because they have my best interests at heart and I'd be wise to listen. | |||
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"It depends on who I’m listening to, some people’s opinions on things matter more to me than others and other people may be more qualified etc to have an opinion. I’d like to think I formulate my on opinion ultimately but would consider others opinions to formulate part of the decision process. " That's fair. If your opinion differed massively from what you were told, what would you do? | |||
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"Nearly always best to find out what a persons like face to face rather than listening to second hand gossip . I guess it may occasionally be valid if you really trust the person who's telling you about them , but on the whole I prefer to find out by meeting said person x" That makes a lot.of sense. Post covid. Obvs | |||
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"I have always formulated my own opinion, despite how someone else may judge another person, good or bad. Recieved wisdom can be so very misleading. " It can. As it's coloured by so many things from the third party. | |||
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"Nearly always best to find out what a persons like face to face rather than listening to second hand gossip . I guess it may occasionally be valid if you really trust the person who's telling you about them , but on the whole I prefer to find out by meeting said person x That makes a lot.of sense. Post covid. Obvs " Obvs | |||
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"I make my own mind up, i collect information from many sources and go from there. " Research fully.... that makes sense.. | |||
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"What people say about others says more about them usually. I never let anyone tell me how to feel about someone, and until I know that person I rarely make judgements. I don't like people who do nothing but talk about other people. One million percent this. Make your own judgements about people. " | |||
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"It depends on who I’m listening to, some people’s opinions on things matter more to me than others and other people may be more qualified etc to have an opinion. I’d like to think I formulate my on opinion ultimately but would consider others opinions to formulate part of the decision process. This One or two people I trust implicitly and are not prone to gossip. If they tell me something about another person it's because they have my best interests at heart and I'd be wise to listen. " I'd agree with that. Although I've been wrong in the past with that way as well | |||
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"no i wouldn't go on what anyone else said , thsts very narrow minded , i like to form my own opinion on someone " A woman who knows her own mind.... I like it! | |||
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"I only judge people on the conversations they have with me. I quite happily will listen and add a different way of looking at things if asked, but its none of my business and I will not be drawn into anyones drama, I stay on the outskirts and provide a sounding board service instead x" That's what I like to do... but I haven't managed to master the not getting drawn in all the time. I sometimes feel pulled pillar to post a bit. | |||
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"I’d like to say no but I think if someone told me something about someone I’d probably take it into account. Depends who said it really. It’s not good on here though as I’ve heard so much utter bullshit about myself! People tend to make stuff up or Chinese whispers happen. It’s a difficult one to be honest!" Chinese whispers are rife! So you're saying that thing I heard about you and the sailors wasn't true? | |||
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"Yes I do sometimes " Make your own mind or allow yourself to be led? | |||
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"I’d like to say no but I think if someone told me something about someone I’d probably take it into account. Depends who said it really. It’s not good on here though as I’ve heard so much utter bullshit about myself! People tend to make stuff up or Chinese whispers happen. It’s a difficult one to be honest! Chinese whispers are rife! So you're saying that thing I heard about you and the sailors wasn't true? " Damn now that’s got out too!!??!!! | |||
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"I only judge people on the conversations they have with me. I quite happily will listen and add a different way of looking at things if asked, but its none of my business and I will not be drawn into anyones drama, I stay on the outskirts and provide a sounding board service instead x That's what I like to do... but I haven't managed to master the not getting drawn in all the time. I sometimes feel pulled pillar to post a bit." why do you get drawn in ? Why don't you remove yourself before thst , ever heard the saying not my monkey , not my circus maybe you should use it lol | |||
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"I’d like to say no but I think if someone told me something about someone I’d probably take it into account. Depends who said it really. It’s not good on here though as I’ve heard so much utter bullshit about myself! People tend to make stuff up or Chinese whispers happen. It’s a difficult one to be honest! Chinese whispers are rife! So you're saying that thing I heard about you and the sailors wasn't true? Damn now that’s got out too!!??!!!" TBF. I started that one. Sorry. I made you look good though | |||
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"I’d like to think that I make my own judgement on someone. How they are with you could be different to how they are with someone else but surely you go by with how they are with you right?? " That's what I would think. And different people react differently to different people. That's a lot of different. | |||
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"I only judge people on the conversations they have with me. I quite happily will listen and add a different way of looking at things if asked, but its none of my business and I will not be drawn into anyones drama, I stay on the outskirts and provide a sounding board service instead x That's what I like to do... but I haven't managed to master the not getting drawn in all the time. I sometimes feel pulled pillar to post a bit. why do you get drawn in ? Why don't you remove yourself before thst , ever heard the saying not my monkey , not my circus maybe you should use it lol " I do a lot more these days. I don't take sides, but I will listen. | |||
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"There are so many variables to this but 99 times out of 100 I will make my own mind up. Your trust in the person who is saying it to you and your own thoughts of them count for a lot. Why they would be saying it as well. Who it is they're talking about and the nature of what they are saying counts too. If its just that they had had a little playground spat once before then you can pretty much dismiss it but if it comes down to big concerns for your welfare then you would be daft not to at least take some notice even if you decide to go ahead and meet them just so you are forewarned of any red flags that could pop up. The best bit of advice I never listened to a long time ago could have saved me a long and painful world of pain. Based purely on what I told a friend they said an ex was an ex for a reason....yes I went back to that ex as well. Singularly the most spectacularly stupid mistake I ever made." You make sense oh wise one. Still not Queen though. | |||
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"I’d like to say no but I think if someone told me something about someone I’d probably take it into account. Depends who said it really. It’s not good on here though as I’ve heard so much utter bullshit about myself! People tend to make stuff up or Chinese whispers happen. It’s a difficult one to be honest!" You really can’t believe the Chinese whispers that float around sometimes. I had someone message me a while back saying something you said to them about me but just brushed it off since I’ve never felt there being any issues between us. | |||
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"It depends who is telling me and what they are telling me to be honest - even then though I prefer to form my own opinion based on first hand experience, although will bear what I have been told in mind if it's from someone I know is of a like mind to me - have generally found though that it bears out when that is the case." That's sensible. I think bearing it in mind is different to being swayed though. | |||
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"There are so many variables to this but 99 times out of 100 I will make my own mind up. Your trust in the person who is saying it to you and your own thoughts of them count for a lot. Why they would be saying it as well. Who it is they're talking about and the nature of what they are saying counts too. If its just that they had had a little playground spat once before then you can pretty much dismiss it but if it comes down to big concerns for your welfare then you would be daft not to at least take some notice even if you decide to go ahead and meet them just so you are forewarned of any red flags that could pop up. The best bit of advice I never listened to a long time ago could have saved me a long and painful world of pain. Based purely on what I told a friend they said an ex was an ex for a reason....yes I went back to that ex as well. Singularly the most spectacularly stupid mistake I ever made. You make sense oh wise one. Still not Queen though." My day being Queen will come | |||
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"I’d like to think that I make my own judgement on someone. How they are with you could be different to how they are with someone else but surely you go by with how they are with you right?? That's what I would think. And different people react differently to different people. That's a lot of different." Totally agree and the beauty of it. Would we all want to be the same | |||
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"I will always listen to others views but ultimately I make up my own mind." | |||
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"On the whole, yes I do. There have been a few times when a close friend has had an unpleasant experience with someone and that will have some impact on my view of the person. For the most part I base my opinion on someone on how they interact with me, if we're talking about a forumite on here on how they interact with others. I'm aware of biases (confirmation etc) and try and remove that as much as possible. Much like Nora, I've heard nonsense about me which is a shame isn't it? I can't be doing with playground antics. I think taking people as they are is something we should all try and do more of but I'm aware of my hypocrisy as I type this, I'm not sure holier-than-thou is a great look on me. " What you've said makes sense. And we should all try and take people as they are, or as we find them anyway. But as you say, holier-than-thou isn't a great look. I couldn't pull it off! | |||
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"I only judge people on the conversations they have with me. I quite happily will listen and add a different way of looking at things if asked, but its none of my business and I will not be drawn into anyones drama, I stay on the outskirts and provide a sounding board service instead x That's what I like to do... but I haven't managed to master the not getting drawn in all the time. I sometimes feel pulled pillar to post a bit." Posh. Ask yourself whether your friends would treat you this way | |||
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"What others say reflects on them. I may care and not want to know them" Good point... | |||
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"It depends on who I’m listening to, some people’s opinions on things matter more to me than others and other people may be more qualified etc to have an opinion. I’d like to think I formulate my on opinion ultimately but would consider others opinions to formulate part of the decision process. That's fair. If your opinion differed massively from what you were told, what would you do?" I’d do what’s right for me | |||
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"Off here? No, I make my own mind up about people. I’m a good judge of character and very good at reading people. On here is irrelevant really as I keep myself to myself. Nobody has my ear." I meant on and off here, so thank you. | |||
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"I only judge people on the conversations they have with me. I quite happily will listen and add a different way of looking at things if asked, but its none of my business and I will not be drawn into anyones drama, I stay on the outskirts and provide a sounding board service instead x That's what I like to do... but I haven't managed to master the not getting drawn in all the time. I sometimes feel pulled pillar to post a bit. Posh. Ask yourself whether your friends would treat you this way" | |||
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"It depends on who I’m listening to, some people’s opinions on things matter more to me than others and other people may be more qualified etc to have an opinion. I’d like to think I formulate my on opinion ultimately but would consider others opinions to formulate part of the decision process. That's fair. If your opinion differed massively from what you were told, what would you do? I’d do what’s right for me" | |||
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"Depends if I know the tale teller well enough to know that they don't knowingly lie, manipulate or gossip. If I don't, then I will make my own mind up. Having been at the pointy end of nasty rumours many times myself I know to not trust gossip and that it's likely someone is being hurt. I'll have none of that thanks. When someone tells you bad things about several people you'd start to have doubts anyway, right? Maybe even think "I wonder what you day about me"." That's so true, and that's how I feel. | |||
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"I make my own judgment on people off the back off how they treat me you can never tell a full story just by seeing one hafe off it If it’s desplayed in public I will however take a mental note to my self and be very cosuse and warry off that person " Absolutely. But then you've seen it for yourself. | |||
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"I'm big and ugly enough to work people our myself tbh and I'm pretty good at it, it's my job. When other people talk shit or try to rubbish another person I always ask myself what their motivation is and that generally leads me to disregard what they're saying. Especially on fab, it usually involves some form of jealousy or insecurity. It's rare when people say something the other way and actually recommend or compliment another person, but in this case I'm more likely to listen although I'll still use my own judgement to work out if their recommendation is worthy. I guess life has a lot of shit to stir but the stirrer ultimately licks the spoon so I always found it's best to stay independent and stay above it " shock horror I agree with you! If it’s a negative thing that will make me more wary of the person who said it and not the person they said it about. | |||
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"I make my own judgment on people off the back off how they treat me you can never tell a full story just by seeing one hafe off it If it’s desplayed in public I will however take a mental note to my self and be very cosuse and warry off that person Absolutely. But then you've seen it for yourself." Yes that’s why I would be cosuse and warry off them I don’t get why people start roomers or gossip xx | |||
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"I'm big and ugly enough to work people our myself tbh and I'm pretty good at it, it's my job. When other people talk shit or try to rubbish another person I always ask myself what their motivation is and that generally leads me to disregard what they're saying. Especially on fab, it usually involves some form of jealousy or insecurity. It's rare when people say something the other way and actually recommend or compliment another person, but in this case I'm more likely to listen although I'll still use my own judgement to work out if their recommendation is worthy. I guess life has a lot of shit to stir but the stirrer ultimately licks the spoon so I always found it's best to stay independent and stay above it shock horror I agree with you! If it’s a negative thing that will make me more wary of the person who said it and not the person they said it about. " I agree with a lot of things you say too | |||
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"I'm big and ugly enough to work people our myself tbh and I'm pretty good at it, it's my job. When other people talk shit or try to rubbish another person I always ask myself what their motivation is and that generally leads me to disregard what they're saying. Especially on fab, it usually involves some form of jealousy or insecurity. It's rare when people say something the other way and actually recommend or compliment another person, but in this case I'm more likely to listen although I'll still use my own judgement to work out if their recommendation is worthy. I guess life has a lot of shit to stir but the stirrer ultimately licks the spoon so I always found it's best to stay independent and stay above it " That's a good point about people not recommending or complimenting others. It probably doesn't happen very often at all, although I do know it has in a few cases. | |||
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"I'm big and ugly enough to work people our myself tbh and I'm pretty good at it, it's my job. When other people talk shit or try to rubbish another person I always ask myself what their motivation is and that generally leads me to disregard what they're saying. Especially on fab, it usually involves some form of jealousy or insecurity. It's rare when people say something the other way and actually recommend or compliment another person, but in this case I'm more likely to listen although I'll still use my own judgement to work out if their recommendation is worthy. I guess life has a lot of shit to stir but the stirrer ultimately licks the spoon so I always found it's best to stay independent and stay above it shock horror I agree with you! If it’s a negative thing that will make me more wary of the person who said it and not the person they said it about. I agree with a lot of things you say too " We’ve had our moments haven’t we . I’m sure we’ll have more! | |||
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"People say there's no secret cliques spreading malicious gossip............." I wouldn't say secret cliques.... but I would say groups of people. Or pairs of people. The same off fab as on fab. I didn't necessarily mean on here to be fair. | |||
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"Having a muse about the nature of people, and of conversation, gossip and all sorts. I'm not talking about what people say about you.... I'm talking about what they say about others. Do you make your own judgement on a person and your experience of them is the only way it changes, or does what others say about them easily colour your thinking?" Tbh i dont listen to gossip i take people on how I find them, and make my own judgements. I soon spot a fake | |||
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"That's a good point about people not recommending or complimenting others. It probably doesn't happen very often at all, although I do know it has in a few cases." To be fair I often hear good things said about others that way too, maybe not as much as bad things, but still hear them all the same | |||
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"People say there's no secret cliques spreading malicious gossip............. I wouldn't say secret cliques.... but I would say groups of people. Or pairs of people. The same off fab as on fab. I didn't necessarily mean on here to be fair." I meant both on here and also unfortunately people I have to work with. | |||
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"People say there's no secret cliques spreading malicious gossip............." They do...not sure who they're trying to kid - think we've all been on the receiving at one time or another (am certainly aware of some fairly laughable things that have been said about me) | |||
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"Why is gossip viewed so negatively? It's just the passing on or sharing social chit chat The majority of people do it " Depends if it’s spiteful and/or untrue I guess? | |||
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"Why is gossip viewed so negatively? It's just the passing on or sharing social chit chat The majority of people do it " For me gossip is sharing personal information, secrets of another or sometimes spreading of misinformation in a malicious way. Social chit chat is, such and such got a new job last week or asking after an old colleague | |||
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"Why is gossip viewed so negatively? It's just the passing on or sharing social chit chat The majority of people do it Depends if it’s spiteful and/or untrue I guess? " So talking about/passing comment on other people is only acceptable if it's nice things being said? I just don't think that's how people interact most times | |||
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"Why is gossip viewed so negatively? It's just the passing on or sharing social chit chat The majority of people do it Depends if it’s spiteful and/or untrue I guess? " Exactly.... | |||
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"Why is gossip viewed so negatively? It's just the passing on or sharing social chit chat The majority of people do it Depends if it’s spiteful and/or untrue I guess? So talking about/passing comment on other people is only acceptable if it's nice things being said? I just don't think that's how people interact most times " Well surely it should be. Why would you pass nasty comments? What’s the purpose? | |||
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"Why is gossip viewed so negatively? It's just the passing on or sharing social chit chat The majority of people do it " Because gossip typically involves information that is not confirmed as being true. Gossip is usually information that you wouldn't say in front of the person being gossiped about. Chit chat is a totally different thing | |||
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"Why is gossip viewed so negatively? It's just the passing on or sharing social chit chat The majority of people do it Depends if it’s spiteful and/or untrue I guess? So talking about/passing comment on other people is only acceptable if it's nice things being said? I just don't think that's how people interact most times Well surely it should be. Why would you pass nasty comments? What’s the purpose? " I fucking would. If I went on a meet and that person was pushy or whatever, I ain't gonna keep it to myself. I don't want my friends finding themselves in the same situation or God forbid worse. Or if they're behaviour changed when under the influence, I may say something like "sound when sober, just watch em when they've had a drink" I don't think I'm a cunt for that | |||
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"Why is gossip viewed so negatively? It's just the passing on or sharing social chit chat The majority of people do it Depends if it’s spiteful and/or untrue I guess? So talking about/passing comment on other people is only acceptable if it's nice things being said? I just don't think that's how people interact most times Well surely it should be. Why would you pass nasty comments? What’s the purpose? I fucking would. If I went on a meet and that person was pushy or whatever, I ain't gonna keep it to myself. I don't want my friends finding themselves in the same situation or God forbid worse. Or if they're behaviour changed when under the influence, I may say something like "sound when sober, just watch em when they've had a drink" I don't think I'm a cunt for that " That's not gossip though | |||
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"I used to but not any more I wrote you the best veri's ever! Who are you " I'm new! Fresh start n all | |||
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"Why is gossip viewed so negatively? It's just the passing on or sharing social chit chat The majority of people do it Depends if it’s spiteful and/or untrue I guess? So talking about/passing comment on other people is only acceptable if it's nice things being said? I just don't think that's how people interact most times Well surely it should be. Why would you pass nasty comments? What’s the purpose? I fucking would. If I went on a meet and that person was pushy or whatever, I ain't gonna keep it to myself. I don't want my friends finding themselves in the same situation or God forbid worse. Or if they're behaviour changed when under the influence, I may say something like "sound when sober, just watch em when they've had a drink" I don't think I'm a cunt for that " That’s different though surely? That’s safeguarding others with factual information? For me gossip is unfounded rumours... | |||
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"Why is gossip viewed so negatively? It's just the passing on or sharing social chit chat The majority of people do it Depends if it’s spiteful and/or untrue I guess? So talking about/passing comment on other people is only acceptable if it's nice things being said? I just don't think that's how people interact most times Well surely it should be. Why would you pass nasty comments? What’s the purpose? I fucking would. If I went on a meet and that person was pushy or whatever, I ain't gonna keep it to myself. I don't want my friends finding themselves in the same situation or God forbid worse. Or if they're behaviour changed when under the influence, I may say something like "sound when sober, just watch em when they've had a drink" I don't think I'm a cunt for that That's not gossip though" Anything can be considered gossip if the other person wasn't there. | |||
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"Why is gossip viewed so negatively? It's just the passing on or sharing social chit chat The majority of people do it Depends if it’s spiteful and/or untrue I guess? So talking about/passing comment on other people is only acceptable if it's nice things being said? I just don't think that's how people interact most times Well surely it should be. Why would you pass nasty comments? What’s the purpose? I fucking would. If I went on a meet and that person was pushy or whatever, I ain't gonna keep it to myself. I don't want my friends finding themselves in the same situation or God forbid worse. Or if they're behaviour changed when under the influence, I may say something like "sound when sober, just watch em when they've had a drink" I don't think I'm a cunt for that That's not gossip though Anything can be considered gossip if the other person wasn't there." It's a fact if it's true. If it's made up or malicious or pedalled second hand then its not to be taken as fact and it becomes gossip imho | |||
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"Why is gossip viewed so negatively? It's just the passing on or sharing social chit chat The majority of people do it Depends if it’s spiteful and/or untrue I guess? So talking about/passing comment on other people is only acceptable if it's nice things being said? I just don't think that's how people interact most times Well surely it should be. Why would you pass nasty comments? What’s the purpose? " I talk to friends about loads of people for various reasons ( I'm not talking about a fab context here). Just because the things I say aren't always nice, doesn't mean they're nasty. Often it's just opinions | |||
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"I pay no attention whatsoever. I think that shows in how I interact I heard you wanted my bumhole " Only if it’s got lippy on it | |||
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"Why is gossip viewed so negatively? It's just the passing on or sharing social chit chat The majority of people do it Depends if it’s spiteful and/or untrue I guess? So talking about/passing comment on other people is only acceptable if it's nice things being said? I just don't think that's how people interact most times Well surely it should be. Why would you pass nasty comments? What’s the purpose? I fucking would. If I went on a meet and that person was pushy or whatever, I ain't gonna keep it to myself. I don't want my friends finding themselves in the same situation or God forbid worse. Or if they're behaviour changed when under the influence, I may say something like "sound when sober, just watch em when they've had a drink" I don't think I'm a cunt for that That's not gossip though Anything can be considered gossip if the other person wasn't there. It's a fact if it's true. If it's made up or malicious or pedalled second hand then its not to be taken as fact and it becomes gossip imho" So if I tell MY friend, but then one of their friends mentions meeting that person and my mate tells their mate the exact same info word for word, its no longer fact even though it's the exact same information, it's gossip that shouldn't be considered? Yet if they told their friend to message me directly and ask me themselves it's back to fact again? Even though I may not even know their mate, just know we share a friendship with the same person? A lot comes down to what does someone have to gain by sharing the information and how trustworthy that person seems. Another angle, if I was seemingly going off the rails a bit, and a couple of my mates had noticed and had a chat about it, if not consider them gossiping about me. I'd consider it being concerned for my welfare. Again. Intentions | |||
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"Genuinely couldn't give 1 single fuck. I have opinions and if others don't like them then fuck them " Obviously lol | |||
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"Genuinely couldn't give 1 single fuck. I have opinions and if others don't like them then fuck them Obviously lol " Fuck you lol | |||
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"Genuinely couldn't give 1 single fuck. I have opinions and if others don't like them then fuck them Obviously lol Fuck you lol" Yes please | |||
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