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"was there any milkshake left in it? when you kicked it did it spill over the pavement? do two wrongs make a right? " I suppose there's some kind of logic in your aurgument???? But if it wasn't left there in the first place I would have been kicking thin air!!! | |||
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"was there any milkshake left in it? when you kicked it did it spill over the pavement? do two wrongs make a right? I suppose there's some kind of logic in your aurgument???? But if it wasn't left there in the first place I would have been kicking thin air!!! " Pssst! I think the is a major clue this is a tongue in cheek comment...a joke! That's how I read it anyway. | |||
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" Pssst! I think the is a major clue this is a tongue in cheek comment...a joke! That's how I read it anyway." Good point...;-) But with a righteous red mist in the eyes... He probably saw them as brown or purple... | |||
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"First off, I love this country, just not some of the people in it!! Walking back from town this afternoon, a woman carrying shopping bags & drinking a Macdonald milkshake was ahead of me. She decided she had had enough of the milkshake so bent down and left the container in the middle of the pavement. As I approach it, I gave it a kick in her direction, she turns round but no look of embarrassment - even my remark 'I think you dropped something' has no effect! Now I know I could have challenged her further - but perhaps the fear of a 'sperm donor' of a partner, accompanied by Tyson / Brutus, etc the pitbull suddenly appearing, made apathy the more sensible route. Always feel crappy after situations like this, wishing I had the balls to press the issue more - but fearing the consequences more Am I alone thinking how difficult is it to put YOUR rubbish in a bin??? Rant over " I agree with your first point that there are some people in this country who fail to make themselves loveable or put in a more adult manner they do not contribute to society in a way in which we approve. 1. Should the woman have put the cup in the middle of the pavement? No 2. Should you have kicked it at her? No 3. Which caused the greater mess ? No idea 4. What should you have done ? Picked it up and put it in a bin 5. Are you a cowardly and a bully? In this case - Yes 6. I take my rubbish home or put it in a bin - most times. | |||
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"First off, I love this country, just not some of the people in it!! Walking back from town this afternoon, a woman carrying shopping bags & drinking a Macdonald milkshake was ahead of me. She decided she had had enough of the milkshake so bent down and left the container in the middle of the pavement. As I approach it, I gave it a kick in her direction, she turns round but no look of embarrassment - even my remark 'I think you dropped something' has no effect! Now I know I could have challenged her further - but perhaps the fear of a 'sperm donor' of a partner, accompanied by Tyson / Brutus, etc the pitbull suddenly appearing, made apathy the more sensible route. Always feel crappy after situations like this, wishing I had the balls to press the issue more - but fearing the consequences more Am I alone thinking how difficult is it to put YOUR rubbish in a bin??? Rant over I agree with your first point that there are some people in this country who fail to make themselves loveable or put in a more adult manner they do not contribute to society in a way in which we approve. 1. Should the woman have put the cup in the middle of the pavement? No 2. Should you have kicked it at her? No 3. Which caused the greater mess ? No idea 4. What should you have done ? Picked it up and put it in a bin 5. Are you a cowardly and a bully? In this case - Yes 6. I take my rubbish home or put it in a bin - most times. " Hey I dont think the 'cowardly and a bully was really necessary, some things quit rightly anger us and maybe we just react the wrong way but he needed to make a point which he did short of throttling someone like that whay do you do ... | |||
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"was there any milkshake left in it? when you kicked it did it spill over the pavement? do two wrongs make a right? I suppose there's some kind of logic in your aurgument???? But if it wasn't left there in the first place I would have been kicking thin air!!! " I'd have called out, rather loudly, "Scuse me love, you dropped your milkshake!" Done it before and it worked! And I didn't get the crap beat out of one by any Tysonesque OH........ surprisingly.... | |||
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"First off, I love this country, just not some of the people in it!! Walking back from town this afternoon, a woman carrying shopping bags & drinking a Macdonald milkshake was ahead of me. She decided she had had enough of the milkshake so bent down and left the container in the middle of the pavement. As I approach it, I gave it a kick in her direction, she turns round but no look of embarrassment - even my remark 'I think you dropped something' has no effect! Now I know I could have challenged her further - but perhaps the fear of a 'sperm donor' of a partner, accompanied by Tyson / Brutus, etc the pitbull suddenly appearing, made apathy the more sensible route. Always feel crappy after situations like this, wishing I had the balls to press the issue more - but fearing the consequences more Am I alone thinking how difficult is it to put YOUR rubbish in a bin??? Rant over I agree with your first point that there are some people in this country who fail to make themselves loveable or put in a more adult manner they do not contribute to society in a way in which we approve. 1. Should the woman have put the cup in the middle of the pavement? No 2. Should you have kicked it at her? No 3. Which caused the greater mess ? No idea 4. What should you have done ? Picked it up and put it in a bin 5. Are you a cowardly and a bully? In this case - Yes 6. I take my rubbish home or put it in a bin - most times. Hey I dont think the 'cowardly and a bully was really necessary, some things quit rightly anger us and maybe we just react the wrong way but he needed to make a point which he did short of throttling someone like that whay do you do ... " Moot point Steph... I also needed to make a point. I also get angry at litter droppers. | |||
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"I was once out with a large group of punk friends and this BMW was parked with a girl and a guy eating chips etc. She decided she'd had enough and put the whole lot out of the window. Now oneof my mates saw a chance and picked up the whole lot and put it back through the window saying "aww lassie, you've dropped ye chips!" She freaks as she is covered in chips and vinegar/sauce etc. The guy gets out the car and sees 10 ofus with Mohawks and the lots and decides against anything. Jumps back in the car and speads off causing taffic to brake suddenly. Then he gets pulled by police. Literally 200 people cheering the guy and the police. It'sthe only time justice has been served in the UK. " Wish I had been there too dont you just love Kharma | |||
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"was brought up to take it home or find a bin as i suspect most people were.. will confront someone but not in an aggressive manner.. by asking them politely if they have dropped it, you put the onus back on them.. usually works.. " where i live i would'nt have any windows left there is no respect at all in this part of town and the children are the worst for it, but i will not have any of my four being disrespectful of others living space by dropping litter or with their mouths because i have no qualms in grounding them or showing them up in front of their friends or removing something they love from them (maybe i'm just harsh ) xxx | |||
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"So let me get this straight, the OP's reaction to someone dropping litter was to kick it across the pavement. Presumably making more of a mess. Is that not just as anti-social?" I'd say yes. | |||
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"was brought up to take it home or find a bin as i suspect most people were.. will confront someone but not in an aggressive manner.. by asking them politely if they have dropped it, you put the onus back on them.. usually works.. where i live i would'nt have any windows left there is no respect at all in this part of town and the children are the worst for it, but i will not have any of my four being disrespectful of others living space by dropping litter or with their mouths because i have no qualms in grounding them or showing them up in front of their friends or removing something they love from them (maybe i'm just harsh ) xxx" no would not say your harsh at all, kids need boundaries, discipline etc as well as support and love... some sadly dont get it and 'society' sometimes picks up the bill.. | |||
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"was brought up to take it home or find a bin as i suspect most people were.. will confront someone but not in an aggressive manner.. by asking them politely if they have dropped it, you put the onus back on them.. usually works.. where i live i would'nt have any windows left there is no respect at all in this part of town and the children are the worst for it, but i will not have any of my four being disrespectful of others living space by dropping litter or with their mouths because i have no qualms in grounding them or showing them up in front of their friends or removing something they love from them (maybe i'm just harsh ) xxx no would not say your harsh at all, kids need boundaries, discipline etc as well as support and love... some sadly dont get it and 'society' sometimes picks up the bill.. " i will not have my lot be a burden on society in any way shape or form, i was brought up to be respectful of others and my surroundings and i expect the same from my children xx | |||
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"i fucking hate cunts like that i saw some little chav drop some litter the other week,i had to work so hard not to challenge him.but i knew if he had got cocky i would have lamped him.so i bit my lip i have given litter back to people before saying you have dropped something. there was a group 5 lads drinking lager in the park and dropping cans.i was with a mate and we had a right go at them.they didnt know what to say.no one challenges these scum bags nowadays i have also wet ballistic at some teenagers smashing glass bottles where dog walkers go,again they didnt say much as they are not used to people saying something" I dislike both litter droppers and foul mouthers. | |||
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" I dislike both litter droppers and foul mouthers." I'm glad you said that. Because there are a few comments on here that confuse me. Am I reading it right basically if we think someone is a chav and that we are better than them then we can swear and be abusive at them? Arguably we are displaying similar behaviour that they are being condemned for... | |||
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"If you are polite to litter droppers or people who vandalise stuff, they will see you as fair game. Jump down their throats and you will make them piss themselves. granted you need to be a man who looks like he'd wedge his foot up their arse if provoked. " Agree 100%...people like that dont respond to 'excuse me, I find your behaviour totally unacceptable and I would prefer it if you desisted in your actions...please' Yeh thats going to work isnt it.. | |||
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"I was once out with a large group of punk friends and this BMW was parked with a girl and a guy eating chips etc. She decided she'd had enough and put the whole lot out of the window. Now oneof my mates saw a chance and picked up the whole lot and put it back through the window saying "aww lassie, you've dropped ye chips!" She freaks as she is covered in chips and vinegar/sauce etc. The guy gets out the car and sees 10 ofus with Mohawks and the lots and decides against anything. Jumps back in the car and speads off causing taffic to brake suddenly. Then he gets pulled by police. Literally 200 people cheering the guy and the police. It'sthe only time justice has been served in the UK. " I LOVE that!!! | |||
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"was there any milkshake left in it? when you kicked it did it spill over the pavement? do two wrongs make a right? I suppose there's some kind of logic in your aurgument???? But if it wasn't left there in the first place I would have been kicking thin air!!! " You could have minded your own business and let her mind hers, if we're talking about living in a free and tolerant society. What makes you the Litter Police? I don't approve of people throwing rubbish about publicly but it's for them and their conscious to deal with. | |||
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" I don't approve of people throwing rubbish about publicly but it's for them and their conscious to deal with." It's not though is it? It's for us to deal with, walking through it and having to look at it (and pick it up from our front garden day after day after day). When I was a kid, if I misbehaved or threw rubbish or did anything antisocial, there was an adult around somewhere who would happlily tell me right from wrong. Just "minding your own business" is why no one has any manners anymore. | |||
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"You could have minded your own business and let her mind hers, if we're talking about living in a free and tolerant society. What makes you the Litter Police? I don't approve of people throwing rubbish about publicly but it's for them and their conscious to deal with." you presume that people who throw away non biodegradeable rubish have a concience.... | |||
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"You could have minded your own business and let her mind hers, if we're talking about living in a free and tolerant society. What makes you the Litter Police? I don't approve of people throwing rubbish about publicly but it's for them and their conscious to deal with. you presume that people who throw away non biodegradeable rubish have a concience...." I don't presume anything georgey, I simply mind my own business and let others mind theirs. How many dad's have been beaten to death for daring to venture outside to quell a bunch of rowdy youths only for them to turn on him. I wouldn't risk a confrontation over a piece of litter as it's such a stupid little thing in the big grand scheme of things. | |||
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"You could have minded your own business and let her mind hers, if we're talking about living in a free and tolerant society. What makes you the Litter Police? I don't approve of people throwing rubbish about publicly but it's for them and their conscious to deal with. you presume that people who throw away non biodegradeable rubish have a concience.... I don't presume anything georgey, I simply mind my own business and let others mind theirs. How many dad's have been beaten to death for daring to venture outside to quell a bunch of rowdy youths only for them to turn on him. I wouldn't risk a confrontation over a piece of litter as it's such a stupid little thing in the big grand scheme of things." It's a costly little thing in the grand scheme of things. Ask your local authority how much of your council tax is spent on litter or clearing chewing gum. The Highways Agency also spends a fortune on litter picking. I have challenged someone and was told that it was their right as they paid their taxes By that logic we can all get away with so much more in a live and let live society. | |||
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"You could have minded your own business and let her mind hers, if we're talking about living in a free and tolerant society. What makes you the Litter Police? I don't approve of people throwing rubbish about publicly but it's for them and their conscious to deal with. you presume that people who throw away non biodegradeable rubish have a concience.... I don't presume anything georgey, I simply mind my own business and let others mind theirs. How many dad's have been beaten to death for daring to venture outside to quell a bunch of rowdy youths only for them to turn on him. I wouldn't risk a confrontation over a piece of litter as it's such a stupid little thing in the big grand scheme of things." Unfortunately it's precisely this attitude that has allowed for the thugs to have such a strength in modern day society. | |||
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"It's a costly little thing in the grand scheme of things. Ask your local authority how much of your council tax is spent on litter or clearing chewing gum. The Highways Agency also spends a fortune on litter picking. I have challenged someone and was told that it was their right as they paid their taxes By that logic we can all get away with so much more in a live and let live society." Quite often I go out in the morning and find someone's dumped their kebab wrapper on my front wall, or a beer can caually tossed onto our front patio area, so I just pick it up and put it in the bin. What good will it do me to rant and rave about it? To whom? And will anyone actually give a shit? The police won't do anything about it, and neither will the council. And I'm not going to risk my life confronting someone who may well just decide to give me a good kicking for my troubles. Over a friggin kebab wrapper! No thanks. I'll clean up my own few square metres of turf and let others worrying about cleaning up theirs. | |||
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"I was once out with a large group of punk friends and this BMW was parked with a girl and a guy eating chips etc. She decided she'd had enough and put the whole lot out of the window. Now oneof my mates saw a chance and picked up the whole lot and put it back through the window saying "aww lassie, you've dropped ye chips!" She freaks as she is covered in chips and vinegar/sauce etc. The guy gets out the car and sees 10 ofus with Mohawks and the lots and decides against anything. Jumps back in the car and speads off causing taffic to brake suddenly. Then he gets pulled by police. Literally 200 people cheering the guy and the police. It'sthe only time justice has been served in the UK. I LOVE that!!! " It makes me laugh still now | |||
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"you'd be hard pushed to find a litter bin in central london,they've all been melted down to make riot shields and surface to air missiles. a lot of the bins disappeared around the same time that westminster council brought in £80 on the spot fines for dropping litter funny that innit? Addison Lee the private taxi firm provides 19,000 free 'adbins' bearing its logo outside businesses across the capital. But a judge decided that 21 of the bins in Westminster were in violation of planning laws, fining Addison Lee and making it pay £20,000 in costs. again,funny that innit? This is the same council who do allow bins sponsorerd by Coca Cola" They weren't bins they were illegally placed advertising hoards that could be used as ashtrays. Typical addison lee, trying to get round laws that they think shouldn't apply to them. | |||
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"you'd be hard pushed to find a litter bin in central london,they've all been melted down to make riot shields and surface to air missiles. a lot of the bins disappeared around the same time that westminster council brought in £80 on the spot fines for dropping litter funny that innit? Addison Lee the private taxi firm provides 19,000 free 'adbins' bearing its logo outside businesses across the capital. But a judge decided that 21 of the bins in Westminster were in violation of planning laws, fining Addison Lee and making it pay £20,000 in costs. again,funny that innit? This is the same council who do allow bins sponsorerd by Coca Cola" I thought the bins were removed from the centre of London as they were a security risk. They were removed from the square mile after the Bishopsgate bomb in 1993 and lots more were removed from outside or near tube stations after 7/7. | |||
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"you'd be hard pushed to find a litter bin in central london,they've all been melted down to make riot shields and surface to air missiles. a lot of the bins disappeared around the same time that westminster council brought in £80 on the spot fines for dropping litter funny that innit? Addison Lee the private taxi firm provides 19,000 free 'adbins' bearing its logo outside businesses across the capital. But a judge decided that 21 of the bins in Westminster were in violation of planning laws, fining Addison Lee and making it pay £20,000 in costs. again,funny that innit? This is the same council who do allow bins sponsorerd by Coca Cola They weren't bins they were illegally placed advertising hoards that could be used as ashtrays. Typical addison lee, trying to get round laws that they think shouldn't apply to them. " yet only westminster took them to court. Businesses can request the free bins for use by their employees and customers.Westminster don't want them there but they'll take the coca cola sponsored ones. going to court to remove ashtrays while fining people who put cigarettes in the street is a money earner for them obviously. on top of planning to make it illegal to sleep in the streets of westminster and trying to ban soup kitchens. they're a joke.not to mantion their social cleansing policy | |||
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"on top of planning to make it illegal to sleep in the streets of westminster and trying to ban soup kitchens. they're a joke.not to mantion their social cleansing policy " It should be illegal to sleep on the streets anywhere in the world, not just in London. Actually, it should be immoral to allow it to happen in the first place. How is it that in the 21st century a plan cannot be adopted to ensure that every single person at least has a bed for the night? | |||
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"on top of planning to make it illegal to sleep in the streets of westminster and trying to ban soup kitchens. they're a joke.not to mantion their social cleansing policy It should be illegal to sleep on the streets anywhere in the world, not just in London. Actually, it should be immoral to allow it to happen in the first place. How is it that in the 21st century a plan cannot be adopted to ensure that every single person at least has a bed for the night?" And so there should be. But then local authorities are accused of housing illegal immigrants and not using the money for local people. Lots of London Boroughs are doing their best stop rough sleeping, which has increased in the last two years, by making it harder for people. Not by creating more hostel beds. It was also an Olympic priority for the London Boroughs, along with the Olympic grants for creating a green planted corridor for the Games. In my borough they have removed some hedges and other planting as people were bedding down there when it was snowing. The irony of the fact that the planting had only really matured the year before after a lot of investment in making the area look better and there are now ad hoc patrols, at I don't what cost but possibly paid for out of the 'savings' made in Parks and Gardens, to move people on seems lost on them. | |||
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"Wonder what litter louts and bottle smashers would say when asked politely by me to stop, or bin their rubbish whilst I have a 41k Rottie out for his walk" I don't need the Rottie; I just give them a withering look along with some polite words. | |||
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