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"Just wondering how many of us will be fearful once this horrid thing ends. It will be wierd just touching another person outside your bubble with maybe a hesitancy in doing it." That is a really good point, OP. For me it will be some time before I consider touching anybody outside my trusted network - rather than when "we are allowed to do so". Not so much because it feels weird but more because I do not fully trust the safety, it has been a long time and ultimately we will still have the virus around with some people likely to carry it asymptomatically . | |||
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"I think a lot of us will find certain things difficult. I can't imagine being in a crowded space or sitting next to a stranger or touching a surface without washing or sanitising my hands. " I occasionally see footage of pre Covid, people standing close together, and go Much more if they cough. | |||
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"I think it will take a while to feel completely at ease, I imagine there will be hangovers from it for a long time. I hope kids, who have less memory of other people and the world not being so dangerous, aren't left with social anxieties or issues from this. They're resilient wee things so fingers crossed. " I don't know if this will make you feel better, but I'll try anyway. One of my earliest memories is TV footage of the First Gulf War. I was in preschool. My parents found out that I remember this in the last few years. My mum was devastated. They'd tried hard to shield me from that. It was too much, the type of footage was new, they didn't think I should see it. I have no emotional attachment: it's sort of weird flashing lights, which I realise, reconstructing it as an adult must have been bombs shown through night vision. I'm not scarred by that. I don't have kids myself, I know there is research on preventing or mitigating trauma in children. But, for what it's worth, my parents' fear (albeit about an event on a very different scale in my young life) was unfounded. | |||
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"I'm hoping it's like riding a bicycle. " If it is I've been doing it wrong | |||
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"I think it will take a while to feel completely at ease, I imagine there will be hangovers from it for a long time. I hope kids, who have less memory of other people and the world not being so dangerous, aren't left with social anxieties or issues from this. They're resilient wee things so fingers crossed. I don't know if this will make you feel better, but I'll try anyway. One of my earliest memories is TV footage of the First Gulf War. I was in preschool. My parents found out that I remember this in the last few years. My mum was devastated. They'd tried hard to shield me from that. It was too much, the type of footage was new, they didn't think I should see it. I have no emotional attachment: it's sort of weird flashing lights, which I realise, reconstructing it as an adult must have been bombs shown through night vision. I'm not scarred by that. I don't have kids myself, I know there is research on preventing or mitigating trauma in children. But, for what it's worth, my parents' fear (albeit about an event on a very different scale in my young life) was unfounded." Yeah you've very little control over which memories, which can seem totally insignificant at the time, will stick. Just having spent 24/7 with your parents though might have been lovely for some young kids, so there could be issues with attachment. I know I'm even dreading the day I have to go back to an office and try to get my velcro dog to adjust, never mind children. | |||
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"I'm not fearful at all and I won't find anything at all weird about integrating with a larger community again. I can't wait to hug strangers and I can't wait to be jammed into a room watching a live gig. I can't wait to be able to walk down a footpath normally without having to stick to one side. I can't wait to take my mask off and see people's faces again. And most of all - I can't wait for everybodies FEAR to evaporate. People have been referring to the past year as "the new normal"... nothing normal about it, it's fucked up and we're not supposed to live like this." Absolutely right, the sainest post I've read for the past 10 months. This is not life at all its just existing and we're about to lose another year of our lives by just existing. Politicians making money with interests in pharma companies and pushing fear at the same time. Media pushing fear 24/7 and children now becoming the lost uneducated generation. Does anyone remember the same fear being pushed for Aids??? | |||
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"I'm not fearful at all and I won't find anything at all weird about integrating with a larger community again. I can't wait to hug strangers and I can't wait to be jammed into a room watching a live gig. I can't wait to be able to walk down a footpath normally without having to stick to one side. I can't wait to take my mask off and see people's faces again. And most of all - I can't wait for everybodies FEAR to evaporate. People have been referring to the past year as "the new normal"... nothing normal about it, it's fucked up and we're not supposed to live like this." | |||
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"I'm not fearful at all and I won't find anything at all weird about integrating with a larger community again. I can't wait to hug strangers and I can't wait to be jammed into a room watching a live gig. I can't wait to be able to walk down a footpath normally without having to stick to one side. I can't wait to take my mask off and see people's faces again. And most of all - I can't wait for everybodies FEAR to evaporate. People have been referring to the past year as "the new normal"... nothing normal about it, it's fucked up and we're not supposed to live like this. Absolutely right, the sainest post I've read for the past 10 months. This is not life at all its just existing and we're about to lose another year of our lives by just existing. Politicians making money with interests in pharma companies and pushing fear at the same time. Media pushing fear 24/7 and children now becoming the lost uneducated generation. Does anyone remember the same fear being pushed for Aids??? " Could you catch AIDS at school or in the supermarket without any intimate contact? Would my parents get AIDS if I gave them a kiss on the cheek? Maybe it’s not the current generation of kids who are uneducated. And for the record, kids are still being educated and most have had the opportunity for remote learning since the start of the first lockdown (and they’ve been in school in between). The opportunity to learn may be different but it’s still available. And your greatest teacher will always be your parents. And I’m not living in fear, I’m just living carefully and considerate of others. Lou x | |||
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"I think it will take a while to feel completely at ease, I imagine there will be hangovers from it for a long time. I hope kids, who have less memory of other people and the world not being so dangerous, aren't left with social anxieties or issues from this. They're resilient wee things so fingers crossed. I don't know if this will make you feel better, but I'll try anyway. One of my earliest memories is TV footage of the First Gulf War. I was in preschool. My parents found out that I remember this in the last few years. My mum was devastated. They'd tried hard to shield me from that. It was too much, the type of footage was new, they didn't think I should see it. I have no emotional attachment: it's sort of weird flashing lights, which I realise, reconstructing it as an adult must have been bombs shown through night vision. I'm not scarred by that. I don't have kids myself, I know there is research on preventing or mitigating trauma in children. But, for what it's worth, my parents' fear (albeit about an event on a very different scale in my young life) was unfounded." A one-off event is more easily overcome than constant daily reminders to keep away from other people. For a 3 year old that's a third of their life keeping their hands to themselves for fear of getting ill. | |||
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"I think it will take a while to feel completely at ease, I imagine there will be hangovers from it for a long time. I hope kids, who have less memory of other people and the world not being so dangerous, aren't left with social anxieties or issues from this. They're resilient wee things so fingers crossed. I don't know if this will make you feel better, but I'll try anyway. One of my earliest memories is TV footage of the First Gulf War. I was in preschool. My parents found out that I remember this in the last few years. My mum was devastated. They'd tried hard to shield me from that. It was too much, the type of footage was new, they didn't think I should see it. I have no emotional attachment: it's sort of weird flashing lights, which I realise, reconstructing it as an adult must have been bombs shown through night vision. I'm not scarred by that. I don't have kids myself, I know there is research on preventing or mitigating trauma in children. But, for what it's worth, my parents' fear (albeit about an event on a very different scale in my young life) was unfounded. A one-off event is more easily overcome than constant daily reminders to keep away from other people. For a 3 year old that's a third of their life keeping their hands to themselves for fear of getting ill. " Most young children are very resilient and they will only be as anxious as those around them so us adults need to be very mindful of what we say and do around them. And switch off the news and topical tv programmes, let them play and watch kids programmes. And keeping yourself clean and not touching others uninvited aren’t bad lessons for them to learn. Lou x | |||
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"I'm not fearful at all and I won't find anything at all weird about integrating with a larger community again. I can't wait to hug strangers and I can't wait to be jammed into a room watching a live gig. I can't wait to be able to walk down a footpath normally without having to stick to one side. I can't wait to take my mask off and see people's faces again. And most of all - I can't wait for everybodies FEAR to evaporate. People have been referring to the past year as "the new normal"... nothing normal about it, it's fucked up and we're not supposed to live like this." Precisely this. We're social creatures, and for me this lack of interaction and being tactile is torture...I will be hugging and kissing everyone I know as soon as I possibly can. | |||
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"I think us adults will recover just fine. It may take a while to adjust, but as we were brought up to enjoy physical contact we will get there in the end. Small children, however, who have spent a significant portion of their lives not touching anyone other than their parents and siblings will have more difficulty. Being told daily for the best part of a year, if not longer, to stay away from others and not make physical contact under any circumstances will have a developmental impact. " I agree. And to say "shield them from the worry of Corona" is somewhat naive when it is mentioned on tv, radio, newspapers, posters, every train or bus journey, evey shop announcement,everywhere you go. Yes kids are resilient and hopefully most will come through unscathed but a significant proportion of kids (and adults) will have mental health issues of varying degrees after living through these times. | |||
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"Let's all be honest this way of life is going nowhere!!! The next mutation is already on the way!! Think we should all get on and live our lives " You clearly have not even the most basic understanding of what's happening. | |||
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"I think it will take a while to feel completely at ease, I imagine there will be hangovers from it for a long time. I hope kids, who have less memory of other people and the world not being so dangerous, aren't left with social anxieties or issues from this. They're resilient wee things so fingers crossed. I don't know if this will make you feel better, but I'll try anyway. One of my earliest memories is TV footage of the First Gulf War. I was in preschool. My parents found out that I remember this in the last few years. My mum was devastated. They'd tried hard to shield me from that. It was too much, the type of footage was new, they didn't think I should see it. I have no emotional attachment: it's sort of weird flashing lights, which I realise, reconstructing it as an adult must have been bombs shown through night vision. I'm not scarred by that. I don't have kids myself, I know there is research on preventing or mitigating trauma in children. But, for what it's worth, my parents' fear (albeit about an event on a very different scale in my young life) was unfounded. A one-off event is more easily overcome than constant daily reminders to keep away from other people. For a 3 year old that's a third of their life keeping their hands to themselves for fear of getting ill. " I know. It's a poor analogy, but it's all I've got. | |||
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"I think a lot of us will find certain things difficult. I can't imagine being in a crowded space or sitting next to a stranger or touching a surface without washing or sanitising my hands. I occasionally see footage of pre Covid, people standing close together, and go Much more if they cough. " I do this and if they touch a surface outside and don't sanitise | |||
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"I can't wait to be able to hug my mum and the rest of my family again and I'll be over there like a shot as soon as allowed but as for close contact with others, not antibacing every surface in sight or sanitising my hands constantly, I think that will take longer to disapte. I'm currently too scared to leave my front door most days. All of this is going to have a long term affect to some degree maybe not on everyone but it will on some. " It's a global trauma. It'll take time and mutual compassion. | |||
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"I can't wait to be able to hug my mum and the rest of my family again and I'll be over there like a shot as soon as allowed but as for close contact with others, not antibacing every surface in sight or sanitising my hands constantly, I think that will take longer to disapte. I'm currently too scared to leave my front door most days. All of this is going to have a long term affect to some degree maybe not on everyone but it will on some. It's a global trauma. It'll take time and mutual compassion." It will although compassion in general is not always that easy to come by. It'll be interesting to see how many truly understand and care once they get their freedom back given how many already deny mental health problems and invisible illnesses. | |||
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"I can't wait to be able to hug my mum and the rest of my family again and I'll be over there like a shot as soon as allowed but as for close contact with others, not antibacing every surface in sight or sanitising my hands constantly, I think that will take longer to disapte. I'm currently too scared to leave my front door most days. All of this is going to have a long term affect to some degree maybe not on everyone but it will on some. It's a global trauma. It'll take time and mutual compassion. It will although compassion in general is not always that easy to come by. It'll be interesting to see how many truly understand and care once they get their freedom back given how many already deny mental health problems and invisible illnesses. " I agree. Their suffering seems to be more important for reasons I can't fathom. I think this will have psychological consequences for everyone. I stand with everyone who's willing to stand with everyone. | |||
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"I can't wait to be able to hug my mum and the rest of my family again and I'll be over there like a shot as soon as allowed but as for close contact with others, not antibacing every surface in sight or sanitising my hands constantly, I think that will take longer to disapte. I'm currently too scared to leave my front door most days. All of this is going to have a long term affect to some degree maybe not on everyone but it will on some. It's a global trauma. It'll take time and mutual compassion. It will although compassion in general is not always that easy to come by. It'll be interesting to see how many truly understand and care once they get their freedom back given how many already deny mental health problems and invisible illnesses. I agree. Their suffering seems to be more important for reasons I can't fathom. I think this will have psychological consequences for everyone. I stand with everyone who's willing to stand with everyone." | |||
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"I can't wait to be able to hug my mum and the rest of my family again and I'll be over there like a shot as soon as allowed but as for close contact with others, not antibacing every surface in sight or sanitising my hands constantly, I think that will take longer to disapte. I'm currently too scared to leave my front door most days. All of this is going to have a long term affect to some degree maybe not on everyone but it will on some. It's a global trauma. It'll take time and mutual compassion. It will although compassion in general is not always that easy to come by. It'll be interesting to see how many truly understand and care once they get their freedom back given how many already deny mental health problems and invisible illnesses. I agree. Their suffering seems to be more important for reasons I can't fathom. I think this will have psychological consequences for everyone. I stand with everyone who's willing to stand with everyone." | |||
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"People have been referring to the past year as "the new normal"... nothing normal about it, it's fucked up and we're not supposed to live like this." Good man yourself! I agree. This isn't a new normal, it's frankly natural. We are trying to condition ourselves against our basic instincts. On that basis alone it's doomed to failure. But "new normal" when we are out of this? We will never be fully out, but when we get to a government defined level of acceptable risk, things will be different. How you lived through 2019 is history. Expect changes in all walks of life, from how things are designed built and used, through to what we wear and how we interact with others. In a way, its just social evolution. Not that long ago everyone wore a hat. The mask will be the new hat. Thing is, risk is present in every aspect of life. It's not so much the risk, but how we all react differently to the same risk. For me, when you fear living, you might as well be dead. | |||
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"If there are no new cases, and we are in the clear, I will have no issues touching others " Chams visit then I'm guessing | |||
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"I'm not fearful at all and I won't find anything at all weird about integrating with a larger community again. I can't wait to hug strangers and I can't wait to be jammed into a room watching a live gig. I can't wait to be able to walk down a footpath normally without having to stick to one side. I can't wait to take my mask off and see people's faces again. And most of all - I can't wait for everybodies FEAR to evaporate. People have been referring to the past year as "the new normal"... nothing normal about it, it's fucked up and we're not supposed to live like this. Absolutely right, the sainest post I've read for the past 10 months. This is not life at all its just existing and we're about to lose another year of our lives by just existing. Politicians making money with interests in pharma companies and pushing fear at the same time. Media pushing fear 24/7 and children now becoming the lost uneducated generation. Does anyone remember the same fear being pushed for Aids??? Could you catch AIDS at school or in the supermarket without any intimate contact? Would my parents get AIDS if I gave them a kiss on the cheek? Maybe it’s not the current generation of kids who are uneducated. And for the record, kids are still being educated and most have had the opportunity for remote learning since the start of the first lockdown (and they’ve been in school in between). The opportunity to learn may be different but it’s still available. And your greatest teacher will always be your parents. And I’m not living in fear, I’m just living carefully and considerate of others. Lou x " Could not have said it better myself. | |||
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"People have been referring to the past year as "the new normal"... nothing normal about it, it's fucked up and we're not supposed to live like this. Good man yourself! I agree. This isn't a new normal, it's frankly natural. We are trying to condition ourselves against our basic instincts. On that basis alone it's doomed to failure. But "new normal" when we are out of this? We will never be fully out, but when we get to a government defined level of acceptable risk, things will be different. How you lived through 2019 is history. Expect changes in all walks of life, from how things are designed built and used, through to what we wear and how we interact with others. In a way, its just social evolution. Not that long ago everyone wore a hat. The mask will be the new hat. Thing is, risk is present in every aspect of life. It's not so much the risk, but how we all react differently to the same risk. For me, when you fear living, you might as well be dead." Well said. We will learn to live with new hats | |||
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"If there are no new cases, and we are in the clear, I will have no issues touching others Chams visit then I'm guessing " As soon as possible, for a whole weekend. Me, on my todd, a hotel room in the club....bliss | |||
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"Just wondering how many of us will be fearful once this horrid thing ends. It will be wierd just touching another person outside your bubble with maybe a hesitancy in doing it." What makes you think it is going to end? Governments NEVER give freedoms back. How do you think income tax on everyone started? WW1. Did they end it after the war did? Of course not. Look at 911? Did we get our freedoms back? No of course not. | |||
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"Just wondering how many of us will be fearful once this horrid thing ends. It will be wierd just touching another person outside your bubble with maybe a hesitancy in doing it. What makes you think it is going to end? Governments NEVER give freedoms back. How do you think income tax on everyone started? WW1. Did they end it after the war did? Of course not. Look at 911? Did we get our freedoms back? No of course not. " What freedoms have you lost as a result of 911? | |||
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