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By *innie The Minx OP   Woman
over a year ago

Under the Duvet

Why is it ok to cook some meat from frozen but then some stuff says defrost first?

In the olden days you had to defost everything....now it's all a bit confusingizing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why is it ok to cook some meat from frozen but then some stuff says defrost first?

In the olden days you had to defost everything....now it's all a bit confusingizing.

"

Mrs KinkyCouple might know that answer

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek


"Why is it ok to cook some meat from frozen but then some stuff says defrost first?

In the olden days you had to defost everything....now it's all a bit confusingizing.

Mrs KinkyCouple might know that answer "

I think you're probably right. She's a smarty pants

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By *otSoPoshWoman
over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon

I don't know, but I was wondering that last night.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I cook everything from frozen and I haven't died yet.

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

I'd take a guess that because it's "easier" to get the core temperature higher if something is cooked from defrost.

People maybe weren't confident enough in days of old that they were gonna get it right if cooked from frozen as it takes longer and can look cooked, when actually it ain't, and you've got bacteria in the middle all ready to fuck you up

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"I cook everything from frozen and I haven't died yet.

"

That however is not evidence that cooking some meats from frozen is not potentially hazardous

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Any meat that says cook from frozen will be made from processed meat

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over a year ago

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By *innie The Minx OP   Woman
over a year ago

Under the Duvet


"I'd take a guess that because it's "easier" to get the core temperature higher if something is cooked from defrost.

People maybe weren't confident enough in days of old that they were gonna get it right if cooked from frozen as it takes longer and can look cooked, when actually it ain't, and you've got bacteria in the middle all ready to fuck you up"

Yes I get that bit, but I've got a bag of frozen chick here for the child (a good swap, hey)...says defrost first, do I risk cooking it from frozen?

Hmm....

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"I'd take a guess that because it's "easier" to get the core temperature higher if something is cooked from defrost.

People maybe weren't confident enough in days of old that they were gonna get it right if cooked from frozen as it takes longer and can look cooked, when actually it ain't, and you've got bacteria in the middle all ready to fuck you up

Yes I get that bit, but I've got a bag of frozen chick here for the child (a good swap, hey)...says defrost first, do I risk cooking it from frozen?

Hmm.... "

I only cook chicken from frozen in my pressure cooker

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"I'd take a guess that because it's "easier" to get the core temperature higher if something is cooked from defrost.

People maybe weren't confident enough in days of old that they were gonna get it right if cooked from frozen as it takes longer and can look cooked, when actually it ain't, and you've got bacteria in the middle all ready to fuck you up

Yes I get that bit, but I've got a bag of frozen chick here for the child (a good swap, hey)...says defrost first, do I risk cooking it from frozen?

Hmm....

I only cook chicken from frozen in my pressure cooker

"

Oh and I use a thermometer

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

A lot of it is down to the travelling time of the product.

Most fresh UK meat is fine to be cooked either way , whereas it's usually for example New Zealand lamb has had to be frozen for at least part of its journey to the UK due to sheer time in transit

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By *innie The Minx OP   Woman
over a year ago

Under the Duvet


"I'd take a guess that because it's "easier" to get the core temperature higher if something is cooked from defrost.

People maybe weren't confident enough in days of old that they were gonna get it right if cooked from frozen as it takes longer and can look cooked, when actually it ain't, and you've got bacteria in the middle all ready to fuck you up

Yes I get that bit, but I've got a bag of frozen chick here for the child (a good swap, hey)...says defrost first, do I risk cooking it from frozen?

Hmm....

I only cook chicken from frozen in my pressure cooker

"

My old pressure cooker was scarier than a frozen chicken.

I used to have to hit it with a wooden spoon

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

U can cook any meat from frozen just cook longer or till core temp is 75 or a knife in and knife on inside of wrist! X

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"I'd take a guess that because it's "easier" to get the core temperature higher if something is cooked from defrost.

People maybe weren't confident enough in days of old that they were gonna get it right if cooked from frozen as it takes longer and can look cooked, when actually it ain't, and you've got bacteria in the middle all ready to fuck you up

Yes I get that bit, but I've got a bag of frozen chick here for the child (a good swap, hey)...says defrost first, do I risk cooking it from frozen?

Hmm....

I only cook chicken from frozen in my pressure cooker

My old pressure cooker was scarier than a frozen chicken.

I used to have to hit it with a wooden spoon "

Modern ones are very safe and simple

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek


"I'd take a guess that because it's "easier" to get the core temperature higher if something is cooked from defrost.

People maybe weren't confident enough in days of old that they were gonna get it right if cooked from frozen as it takes longer and can look cooked, when actually it ain't, and you've got bacteria in the middle all ready to fuck you up

Yes I get that bit, but I've got a bag of frozen chick here for the child (a good swap, hey)...says defrost first, do I risk cooking it from frozen?

Hmm.... "

If it says defrost first then yeah, I'd defo follow the instructions.

I work with food yeah, but I just carry it to tables

There's some stuff I know but plenty I don't and molecular level issues is a don't.

Also, if you cook from frozen and munchkin gets poorly, you've no comeback as you didn't cook as per instruction.

What I will say though, don't wash your chicken. Loads of people do and that's bad bad, you can splash bacteria like campilobacta (probably spelt that really wrong!) onto other surfaces, and that's a big bad bacteria.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I cook everything from frozen and I haven't died yet.

That however is not evidence that cooking some meats from frozen is not potentially hazardous

Well its evidence that people probably won't die.

(I will take no responsibility for anyone who dies after reading my advice)

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

In the main if its a big joint then yes defrost as the outside will spoil before the core is cooked but generally if its cooked thorough to the correct core temp it will b ok been a cook all my adult life and not killed anyone either!! x

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By *hunky GentMan
over a year ago

Maldon and Peterborough

Im not 100% sure, but - it may be down to how the meat was frozen in the factory. Additives may have been added to the freezing process which could be harmful if cooked from frozen.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it's to do with a cavity, if it's got one then you should defrost first because of the possibility of bacterial growth in said cavity, like chicken.

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By *innie The Minx OP   Woman
over a year ago

Under the Duvet


"In the main if its a big joint then yes defrost as the outside will spoil before the core is cooked but generally if its cooked thorough to the correct core temp it will b ok been a cook all my adult life and not killed anyone either!! x"

That makes sense

Thanks lady

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford


"In the main if its a big joint then yes defrost as the outside will spoil before the core is cooked but generally if its cooked thorough to the correct core temp it will b ok been a cook all my adult life and not killed anyone either!! x

That makes sense

Thanks lady "

x

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By *uzz And WoodyCouple
over a year ago

Maidstone

I just think follow the cooking instructions, they’ve been carefully tested and recommended for a reason.

Processed meat seems to usually be ok to cook from frozen although some unprocessed meat is ok too. It’s probably more to do with the preparation, storage and transportation methods used.

If I didn’t cook it properly or it doesn’t smell quite right the worry as to whether or not it’s safe to eat will put me off eating it.

And never re-freeze defrosted meat, unless you’ve cooked it first.

Lou x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'd take a guess that because it's "easier" to get the core temperature higher if something is cooked from defrost.

People maybe weren't confident enough in days of old that they were gonna get it right if cooked from frozen as it takes longer and can look cooked, when actually it ain't, and you've got bacteria in the middle all ready to fuck you up"

Absolutely this^^^

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I cock everything from frozen and I haven't died yet.

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"I'd take a guess that because it's "easier" to get the core temperature higher if something is cooked from defrost.

People maybe weren't confident enough in days of old that they were gonna get it right if cooked from frozen as it takes longer and can look cooked, when actually it ain't, and you've got bacteria in the middle all ready to fuck you up

Absolutely this^^^"

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"I cock everything from frozen and I haven't died yet.

"

Lol the amount of people who say the same about meeting during covid is a remarkable parallel

"Oh I don't wear a mask distance or bother with that shit and I haven't died(said some wally on social media)

I do not know the full story

And I would not suggest going against the advice without first understanding the intricate reasoning why

The frozen whole chicken example to be roasted in my opinion should be an absolute no no

Put it in a slow cooker for a day well ill research it first but should be plausible

I honestly think "not died yet " is not evidence I'd use to follow

Bob on social media hasn't died yet from popping certain tablets with a smiley face on

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By *indergirlWoman
over a year ago

somewhere, someplace

The cook from frozen are sometimes part cooked or cooked so essentially you're warming them through rather than fully cooking them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I cock everything from frozen and I haven't died yet.

Lol the amount of people who say the same about meeting during covid is a remarkable parallel

"Oh I don't wear a mask distance or bother with that shit and I haven't died(said some wally on social media)

I do not know the full story

And I would not suggest going against the advice without first understanding the intricate reasoning why

The frozen whole chicken example to be roasted in my opinion should be an absolute no no

Put it in a slow cooker for a day well ill research it first but should be plausible

I honestly think "not died yet " is not evidence I'd use to follow

Bob on social media hasn't died yet from popping certain tablets with a smiley face on "

No true.

My food hygiene qualifications may give me an insight though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would imagine it similar to having a snowball fight without gloves then getting home and dipping your hands into hot water. Not dangerous but would shock the meat.

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