FabSwingers.com forum: Pascal sub sluts

By *usthere4u OP Man
over a year ago

North East

Just seen this... what are people opinions?.

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By *usthere4u OP Man
over a year ago

North East

It might be a taboo for some people... you can pm me...

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By *effrey45Man
over a year ago

Lytham

Not foe me watched a couple of them as they had some of my fave females in them but switched off - each to their own but it’s a big no from me

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By *hechairman18Man
over a year ago

Salford Quays , Manchester

Watched a few of them.

They are ok, but the guy who talks off camera, is a real annoying dickhead.

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By *etcplCouple
over a year ago

Gapping Fanny

My opinion is it leads to misconceptions by the people who watch it that are unable to differentiate between real life and porn.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just seen this... what are people opinions?.

Fucking love it, love how he just has his full way with them

I guess im just as sadistic

My sub and i have discussed and pretty everything he does is on the table

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

Know two off the girls that have shot them one loved it and wants to do more the other now regrets it even tho it was a career boost as it got her out there .shes now turned down faketaxi and is concentrating on her onlyfans .

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By *izzibeth9Couple
over a year ago

Loughborough

We're in a D/s dynamic and often play rough so things like that do turn me on. Like someone else mentions though, the guy off camera is really weird and I sometimes think it all seems a bit too staged - but then with normal porn I'm not a huge fan on the properly staged stuff. Prefer amateurs or ones that seem more natural.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All look the same... Like an episode of Columbo.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"All look the same... Like an episode of Columbo. "

‘Just one more thing’

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By *lbinoGorillaMan
over a year ago

Redditch

I suppose because I'm not that aggressive sexually and prefer something where the partners are a bit more equal in the act it doesn't do a huge amount for me, but I do fancy some of the girls who appear with him.

So I'm a bit conflicted with it, and only watch occasionally

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By *usthere4u OP Man
over a year ago

North East

"Watched a few of them.

They are ok, but the guy who talks off camera, is a real annoying dickhead."

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By *aidtobespankedCouple
over a year ago

Chester

Would love to watch Lucy getting that kind of treatment!

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By *usthere4u OP Man
over a year ago

North East

Seem many half male part of the couple would like to see the other female part into this ...but not many females step up and said why they would like it or not... what are the limitations.. even is clear the scenes are staged...

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By *partharmonyCouple
over a year ago

Ruislip

I've just watched a couple having not heard of it before. I found it quite disturbing. I don't know why anybody would want to treat another human being like this, even just as pretend. I don't know why anybody would want to be treated like this.

I hope those watching it understand the difference between porn and reality. I hope young guys don't watch this and expect future partners to be into this as if it's some sort of norm. I hope women who don't want this feel able to say no. I fear the worst though. Luke

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My opinion is it leads to misconceptions by the people who watch it that are unable to differentiate between real life and porn."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I used to enjoy Pascal’s stuff with Ben Dover, but I think he has moved into an area of porn now that is unappealing and somewhat degrading.

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
over a year ago

Bedford

I've watched them because the models are usually hot.

I've experienced being a sub for both men and women and even couples. Quite enjoyed it. I prefer more sensual to rampant play.

It's a scenario rather than a normal occurance, more a role play thing for me.

As long as everyone involved is consenting, but not everyones cup of tea.

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
over a year ago

Bedford

I usually watch them with the sound off.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

A couple of people off here have said they have been on.

I attempted to find them for research purposes......

Have they smartened up where they shoot yet? Or do they still have that gross carpet and sofa.

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By *ersey GirlCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

No different to how I treat ruby. Its what works for us, some people get off on been degraded and treated in such a way.

We couldn't do what we do if we didn't have total respect for each other.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've watched one or two. I like the dynamics between him and some of the women, but that's as far as it goes for me.

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By *ensualMan
over a year ago

Sutton

I was introduced to Pascal a few years ago by a woman I topped. Because I do rope she wanted me to recreate one of the rope scenes for her.

I do find my experience of the bdsm scene very different from some contributors which leads me to think that couples experience of the scene is different from single people's.

Provided it is consensual and negotiated some women like some very extreme activities. I have a female friend that comes from a hard caning.

I think the statement that goes " I don't understand why anyone would want to do this to anyone" is muddleheaded on a number of points. First it assumes that there is something wrong with the person having such desires. All studies to date have shown people involved in BDSM are more balanced than the "normal" population. Second it misses the point that kink is about taboo desires. Third and the key to extreme play is that the bottom/ sub desires it and wants these extreme acts done to them. This is the key to many enjoyable experiences (also assuming having the skill and knowledge).

I would address the porn issue, porn sets the opportunities for sexuality, clearly it should only be for adults and classified as fantasy. Given the woeful state of sex education in this world the alternative to the "moral" lifestyle is found initially in the porn. It is a bit like the Kinsey report that reflected the actual range of sexual activity in society in distinction to the narrow range certain people in society pretends exists. I am putting aside the arguments about how women are reflected in porn.

My issues with PSS and similar sites are twofold. First despite referring to subsluts (which is a specific type of sub) people can think that all bdsm is about how much cock a sub can take in different situations. Also that training is all about sex. Both ideas in my views are wrong, as the part played by sex varies.

Second PSS is repetitive and limited in its exploration of the full range of the mental and physical side of kink.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree with Zensual’s comments. I have met and shot with Pascal, I have always found him to be nice guy and professional.

Porn is fantasy - it is not real life, it is a commercial operation to make money. The things you see in professional porn have been scripted, discussed and agreed beforehand and every performer is fully consenting to be there and be a part of that production. This may not be true for all amateur/voyeur porn but for mainstream professional porn it is.

BDSM is a power exchange dynamic, both parties consenting to play within an agreed framework with boundaries, limits and safety checks. To put this another way; watching a drama on TV where someone is murdered is entertainment, watching a murder in real life is harrowing and horrific. One is make believe for entertainment where the actors have been paid and agree to do this and one is an awful crime.

The difference between BDSM and BDSM porn is that BDSM porn is a commercial enterprise, therefore it primarily sexualises BDSM for entertainment.

It can be said that every episode is the same, but that can be said about soap operas and TV shows. If it is successful and works then you keep doing it.

Mr HH

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By *usthere4u OP Man
over a year ago

North East

Now you know we are curious for a link..

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By *ayjay211201Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"All look the same... Like an episode of Columbo. "

"My wife loves you"

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I don't know anything about it, so will come back in a bit when we've got a consensus and jump on the bandwagon of whichever side makes me look the best

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By *ensualMan
over a year ago

Sutton

"I agree with Zensual’s comments. I have met and shot with Pascal, I have always found him to be nice guy and professional.

The difference between BDSM and BDSM porn is that BDSM porn is a commercial enterprise, therefore it primarily sexualises BDSM for entertainment.

It can be said that every episode is the same, but that can be said about soap operas and TV shows. If it is successful and works then you keep doing it.

Mr HH"

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By *ensualMan
over a year ago

Sutton

"I don't know anything about it, so will come back in a bit when we've got a consensus and jump on the bandwagon of whichever side makes me look the best

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By *hubaysiWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

Problem is differentiating this from real life. I’ve watched some but it’s not something I would enjoy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I stumble across his videos often based on the kind of searches I do, but I can never make it past the start of them as everything just looks so sleazy and unappealing. To me, he is every guy who thinks putting on a cheap, ugly suit and roughing you up a bit makes him Christian Grey. The content doesn't really faze me, but it's not sexy so I tend to just roll my eyes and go find some amateur realness.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"All studies to date have shown people involved in BDSM are more balanced than the "normal" population.

That sounds made up

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By *stbury DavenportMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

I’m pretty familiar with Pascal’s SubSluts. Seen quite a bit of it. I used to know a couple of people who’ve been on it.

I don’t think I’ve seen him do anything that I haven’t done for a partner who wanted to have that experience.

And that, there, is the crucial bit that an awful lot of people seem to miss: *For a partner who wanted to have that experience*.

"I don't know why anybody would want to treat another human being like this, even just as pretend"

Because, believe it or not, there are quite a few human beings who actively enjoy being treated like that, and I like giving my partners the things they enjoy.

*Of course* it can only take place between people who give informed and enthusiastic consent.

*Of course* all participants must completely trust the others.

*Of course* it’s only within a pre-negotiated scene with clearly defined limits and safe words.

*Of course* one should never inflict such treatment on someone who’s not completely and totally into it.

But there *are* people out there who are completely and totally into it, and it feels good to make their fantasies happen for them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just seen this... what are people opinions?.

The people in these videos done appear to be having much fun.

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By *usthere4u OP Man
over a year ago

North East

Hmmm... things are getting spicy..

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By *hubaysiWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

"I’m pretty familiar with Pascal’s SubSluts. Seen quite a bit of it. I used to know a couple of people who’ve been on it.

I don’t think I’ve seen him do anything that I haven’t done for a partner who wanted to have that experience.

And that, there, is the crucial bit that an awful lot of people seem to miss: *For a partner who wanted to have that experience*.

I don't know why anybody would want to treat another human being like this, even just as pretend

Because, believe it or not, there are quite a few human beings who actively enjoy being treated like that, and I like giving my partners the things they enjoy.

*Of course* it can only take place between people who give informed and enthusiastic consent.

*Of course* all participants must completely trust the others.

*Of course* it’s only within a pre-negotiated scene with clearly defined limits and safe words.

*Of course* one should never inflict such treatment on someone who’s not completely and totally into it.

But there *are* people out there who are completely and totally into it, and it feels good to make their fantasies happen for them.

The problem being some so called ‘Dom’s’ think it’s ok to inflict this behaviour on women who tell them they don’t want it. Voice of experience having being throttled not once but twice by one and I regret not reporting him to the Police! It’s not for me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"All studies to date have shown people involved in BDSM are more balanced than the "normal" population.

That sounds made up"

Made up by a BDSM person

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I was introduced to Pascal a few years ago by a woman I topped. Because I do rope she wanted me to recreate one of the rope scenes for her.

I do find my experience of the bdsm scene very different from some contributors which leads me to think that couples experience of the scene is different from single people's.

Provided it is consensual and negotiated some women like some very extreme activities. I have a female friend that comes from a hard caning.

Second PSS is repetitive and limited in its exploration of the full range of the mental and physical side of kink.

Thank you - excellent post