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"Have you lost out on potential relationships because of it? I think over time people do get more guarded and wary of opening themselves up to hurt, heartache or time wasters. But I also think that if you meet someone you think has potential (as a friend or whatever) you slowly let them drop a bit involuntarily. It just happens. One minute you feel nothing and the next moment you’re feeling all the feels. " I don't think that I've lost out from potential relationships from it. But I don't really have a way of knowing. | |||
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"I think over time I have become emotionally unavailable. I can usually chat to people, have interesting and fun conversations but as far as actually letting somebody in so that I could start to care about them, it's like that door is very firmly locked and shut. As far as friendships go, I have good friends who I care very much about, though as far as letting emotions develop further than friendship it's like that option is greyed out permanently. I've stopped feeling patient and caring for people (past my friendships), possibly as a result of being let down and hurt on occasion and partially maybe just despairing of the human race and and people's behaviour. I feel in the past I've invested time and emotion in building relationships and trying to understand people, and I feel now like I've emptied my resources. It seems that like maybe I've just got to a place where I'm an independent self-sufficient woman and I feel like I don't want or need anybody else apart from for light-hearted friendship and fun. I feel like I don't have the patience, time or mental space to tolerate people's behaviour. Does anybody else feel like this, it doesn't feel like a bad thing, but I do ponder it occasionally. Oh God yes!!! Im at the point where I wouldnt care if I never saw another human ever again I'm utterly sick of selfish, self serving, disrespectful, users." I can totally relate | |||
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"I think over time I have become emotionally unavailable. I can usually chat to people, have interesting and fun conversations but as far as actually letting somebody in so that I could start to care about them, it's like that door is very firmly locked and shut. As far as friendships go, I have good friends who I care very much about, though as far as letting emotions develop further than friendship it's like that option is greyed out permanently. I've stopped feeling patient and caring for people (past my friendships), possibly as a result of being let down and hurt on occasion and partially maybe just despairing of the human race and and people's behaviour. I feel in the past I've invested time and emotion in building relationships and trying to understand people, and I feel now like I've emptied my resources. It seems that like maybe I've just got to a place where I'm an independent self-sufficient woman and I feel like I don't want or need anybody else apart from for light-hearted friendship and fun. I feel like I don't have the patience, time or mental space to tolerate people's behaviour. Does anybody else feel like this, it doesn't feel like a bad thing, but I do ponder it occasionally. " I absolutely understand this. I don’t tolerate needy people or drama llamas and this year has taught me what real friendship means | |||
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"I think over time I have become emotionally unavailable. I can usually chat to people, have interesting and fun conversations but as far as actually letting somebody in so that I could start to care about them, it's like that door is very firmly locked and shut. As far as friendships go, I have good friends who I care very much about, though as far as letting emotions develop further than friendship it's like that option is greyed out permanently. I've stopped feeling patient and caring for people (past my friendships), possibly as a result of being let down and hurt on occasion and partially maybe just despairing of the human race and and people's behaviour. I feel in the past I've invested time and emotion in building relationships and trying to understand people, and I feel now like I've emptied my resources. It seems that like maybe I've just got to a place where I'm an independent self-sufficient woman and I feel like I don't want or need anybody else apart from for light-hearted friendship and fun. I feel like I don't have the patience, time or mental space to tolerate people's behaviour. Does anybody else feel like this, it doesn't feel like a bad thing, but I do ponder it occasionally. " Yes I feel pretty much the same. I have love for many people in my life and I care for those that deserve it. However, romantic type love has only ever given me more grief than it was ever worth. Plus it’s mostly hormones giving that feeling and they wear off after a few months. I am more content than I ever have been, so it doesn’t feel as though it’s a bad thing at all ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I've been happily single for 28 years, brought my kids up, been incredibly independent, had a fantastically full life with awesome adventures and loved it but now, as doc says I'm willingly at a crossroads and doing some soul searching ... how to and if to change it? Here's to the new adventures for me ... " ![]() | |||
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"At the risk of being too philosophical, I think we come to a point in our lives when we meet a crossroads. We can choose to become very independent, develop a thick skin, and based on our past experiences stop trusting others. It is a natural conclusion to arrive at as we brush ourselves down after all the knocks we have taken. We look for more verification of someone’s trustworthiness before we trust them and inevitably become more cynical about other humans. However it is a crossroads where we learn to manage our boundaries well, deal with the past hurts and let go of the emotion that has built up over the years. It is a time for reflection and reinvention, for self questioning and seeking a new path, a path where we can learn to love again, live with compassion and heal ourselves. We always have a choice." I’ll add a little more. The source of the love we need most is infinite and it comes from deep within us. Seeking the source is never a fruitless journey ![]() | |||
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"I feel you OP and it happens to me time to time as well. Especially when you are willing to care someone and want to have them as friends in your life but receive little or nothing back. Makes you think why bother, then someone comes in and changes those feelings for the better. ![]() ![]() This is always hard to love hard but the love isn’t returned , or it is but we don’t feel it?? , as individuals we can’t all love the same but yet we expect to receive it the way we give it, but then is it truly love if we only love to get love back ??? Someone might not be hands on affectionate yet they would die for you , or should we only love people on the same frequency as ourselves to avoid feeling of neglect ?? | |||
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"I feel you OP and it happens to me time to time as well. Especially when you are willing to care someone and want to have them as friends in your life but receive little or nothing back. Makes you think why bother, then someone comes in and changes those feelings for the better. ![]() ![]() Love this! Very deep. | |||
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"I feel you OP and it happens to me time to time as well. Especially when you are willing to care someone and want to have them as friends in your life but receive little or nothing back. Makes you think why bother, then someone comes in and changes those feelings for the better. ![]() ![]() This is why 'love' makes most people feel mental. ![]() | |||
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"I think over time I have become emotionally unavailable. I can usually chat to people, have interesting and fun conversations but as far as actually letting somebody in so that I could start to care about them, it's like that door is very firmly locked and shut. As far as friendships go, I have good friends who I care very much about, though as far as letting emotions develop further than friendship it's like that option is greyed out permanently. I've stopped feeling patient and caring for people (past my friendships), possibly as a result of being let down and hurt on occasion and partially maybe just despairing of the human race and and people's behaviour. I feel in the past I've invested time and emotion in building relationships and trying to understand people, and I feel now like I've emptied my resources. It seems that like maybe I've just got to a place where I'm an independent self-sufficient woman and I feel like I don't want or need anybody else apart from for light-hearted friendship and fun. I feel like I don't have the patience, time or mental space to tolerate people's behaviour. Does anybody else feel like this, it doesn't feel like a bad thing, but I do ponder it occasionally. " I feel very close to that. I do care about people and I wouldn't say I'm emotionally shut off completely but it doesn't take much at all for me to shut that part down at the first signs of behaviours that I don't like or gel with. Or it's just not there to be shut down in most cases. I'm all for fun and friendships but beyond that is going to take a decent person. | |||
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"My wife passed at the start of 2019 and I have focused all my emotional collateral on my kids this has meant that I have had very little to spare for anyone else. It is my resolution for 2021 to be open and available, whether I’ll manage it time will tell. Any tips appreciated." So sorry for you loss. Be gentle on yourself, it will take time. | |||
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"My wife passed at the start of 2019 and I have focused all my emotional collateral on my kids this has meant that I have had very little to spare for anyone else. It is my resolution for 2021 to be open and available, whether I’ll manage it time will tell. Any tips appreciated. So sorry for you loss. Be gentle on yourself, it will take time. " Thank you, problem is I am not sure where to start | |||
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"I think over time I have become emotionally unavailable. I can usually chat to people, have interesting and fun conversations but as far as actually letting somebody in so that I could start to care about them, it's like that door is very firmly locked and shut. As far as friendships go, I have good friends who I care very much about, though as far as letting emotions develop further than friendship it's like that option is greyed out permanently. I've stopped feeling patient and caring for people (past my friendships), possibly as a result of being let down and hurt on occasion and partially maybe just despairing of the human race and and people's behaviour. I feel in the past I've invested time and emotion in building relationships and trying to understand people, and I feel now like I've emptied my resources. It seems that like maybe I've just got to a place where I'm an independent self-sufficient woman and I feel like I don't want or need anybody else apart from for light-hearted friendship and fun. I feel like I don't have the patience, time or mental space to tolerate people's behaviour. Does anybody else feel like this, it doesn't feel like a bad thing, but I do ponder it occasionally. " Wow - I did not realise I could relate to this as much as I do until I read your post, OP. Far from sounding negative, your post succinctly suggests to me- as some others have also expressed - that we have reached a point of realism. It is partly about realising that we no longer want to waste time on undeserving people or situations as life is short and also about the fact we could do/ have so much more by allocating the time and energy to worthwhile people and causes. It is not about being cold, unempathetic or even uncaring. People come into your for a reason or a season. Great thread! | |||
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"Interesting thread! Can we choose to be “emotionally unavailable” or are we just more difficult to get through to? More selective? I guess in the same breath you could ask “Can you choose to fall in love?” Is that something controllable? For me it’s always when you least expect it." I don't think it's something that just happens all of a sudden | |||
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"I think over time I have become emotionally unavailable. I can usually chat to people, have interesting and fun conversations but as far as actually letting somebody in so that I could start to care about them, it's like that door is very firmly locked and shut. As far as friendships go, I have good friends who I care very much about, though as far as letting emotions develop further than friendship it's like that option is greyed out permanently. I've stopped feeling patient and caring for people (past my friendships), possibly as a result of being let down and hurt on occasion and partially maybe just despairing of the human race and and people's behaviour. I feel in the past I've invested time and emotion in building relationships and trying to understand people, and I feel now like I've emptied my resources. It seems that like maybe I've just got to a place where I'm an independent self-sufficient woman and I feel like I don't want or need anybody else apart from for light-hearted friendship and fun. I feel like I don't have the patience, time or mental space to tolerate people's behaviour. Does anybody else feel like this, it doesn't feel like a bad thing, but I do ponder it occasionally. Wow - I did not realise I could relate to this as much as I do until I read your post, OP. Far from sounding negative, your post succinctly suggests to me- as some others have also expressed - that we have reached a point of realism. It is partly about realising that we no longer want to waste time on undeserving people or situations as life is short and also about the fact we could do/ have so much more by allocating the time and energy to worthwhile people and causes. It is not about being cold, unempathetic or even uncaring. People come into your for a reason or a season. Great thread! " Love your positive perspective. ![]() | |||
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"Just another thought for what it is worth: If we are becoming less emotionally available, does this mean we are becoming more insular and even more selfish?" Not necessarily. I feel it's a 2 way thing. I don't want anything from anyone but I still give and care for others. Giver not a receiver. | |||
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"At the risk of being too philosophical, I think we come to a point in our lives when we meet a crossroads. We can choose to become very independent, develop a thick skin, and based on our past experiences stop trusting others. It is a natural conclusion to arrive at as we brush ourselves down after all the knocks we have taken. We look for more verification of someone’s trustworthiness before we trust them and inevitably become more cynical about other humans. However it is a crossroads where we learn to manage our boundaries well, deal with the past hurts and let go of the emotion that has built up over the years. It is a time for reflection and reinvention, for self questioning and seeking a new path, a path where we can learn to love again, live with compassion and heal ourselves. We always have a choice." I read this earlier Doc, but just came back to read again and show my appreciation. ![]() | |||
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"Having romantic relationships isn't compulsory. If it's mot something you feel would add to your life and you're happy as you are then it's all good. " Off topic but fab pic! Made me very jealous ![]() | |||
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"Having romantic relationships isn't compulsory. If it's mot something you feel would add to your life and you're happy as you are then it's all good. Off topic but fab pic! Made me very jealous ![]() Thank you! ![]() | |||
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"Just another thought for what it is worth: If we are becoming less emotionally available, does this mean we are becoming more insular and even more selfish?" I don't think so. I think the selfishness of others is often what leads us here and what we're doing when we find ourselves here isn't selfish, it's self care. It doesn't mean we can't be respectful to others, it doesn't mean we won't help others. It means we ain't prepared to hand other people the power to hurt us emotionally. Giving yourself the love you have freely given to others can be rather empowering and that's generally when you find yourself taking the advice you'd give a friend. | |||
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"You're not supposed to give to get back. I know this But continually giving of yourself, and loving, and that love not being reciprocated gets hard Its hard not to turn it upon oneself and think " why do people treat me like this. Is it my fault?" Ive just got to the point where the other human's behaviour makes me sad So its time to give that love to myself" And so it should. Let's replace emotion with money. If someone said I'm giving all my money away and it's leaving me skint with fuck all for myself and I'm struggling to make ends meet, going without food and electric. I wouldn't mind but the people I'm giving it to are wasting it..... First thing people would say is "WHOAAAAAAA, STOP RIGHT NOW!" No different in my eyes. | |||
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"You're not supposed to give to get back. I know this But continually giving of yourself, and loving, and that love not being reciprocated gets hard Its hard not to turn it upon oneself and think " why do people treat me like this. Is it my fault?" Ive just got to the point where the other human's behaviour makes me sad So its time to give that love to myself And so it should. Let's replace emotion with money. If someone said I'm giving all my money away and it's leaving me skint with fuck all for myself and I'm struggling to make ends meet, going without food and electric. I wouldn't mind but the people I'm giving it to are wasting it..... First thing people would say is "WHOAAAAAAA, STOP RIGHT NOW!" No different in my eyes." Good analogy ![]() | |||
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"At the risk of being too philosophical, I think we come to a point in our lives when we meet a crossroads. We can choose to become very independent, develop a thick skin, and based on our past experiences stop trusting others. It is a natural conclusion to arrive at as we brush ourselves down after all the knocks we have taken. We look for more verification of someone’s trustworthiness before we trust them and inevitably become more cynical about other humans. However it is a crossroads where we learn to manage our boundaries well, deal with the past hurts and let go of the emotion that has built up over the years. It is a time for reflection and reinvention, for self questioning and seeking a new path, a path where we can learn to love again, live with compassion and heal ourselves. We always have a choice. I read this earlier Doc, but just came back to read again and show my appreciation. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"You're not supposed to give to get back. I know this But continually giving of yourself, and loving, and that love not being reciprocated gets hard Its hard not to turn it upon oneself and think " why do people treat me like this. Is it my fault?" Ive just got to the point where the other human's behaviour makes me sad So its time to give that love to myself And so it should. Let's replace emotion with money. If someone said I'm giving all my money away and it's leaving me skint with fuck all for myself and I'm struggling to make ends meet, going without food and electric. I wouldn't mind but the people I'm giving it to are wasting it..... First thing people would say is "WHOAAAAAAA, STOP RIGHT NOW!" No different in my eyes. Good analogy ![]() Thanking you kindly. I do see them as very similar in a way. It pisses me off that people can steal your money and get reprimanded, yet abusing and stealing your time, emotion, your essence essentially, which in my eyes is worth more than money, well, you yourself get told "should have been more careful" and it gets brushed aside. | |||
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"You're not supposed to give to get back. I know this But continually giving of yourself, and loving, and that love not being reciprocated gets hard Its hard not to turn it upon oneself and think " why do people treat me like this. Is it my fault?" Ive just got to the point where the other human's behaviour makes me sad So its time to give that love to myself And so it should. Let's replace emotion with money. If someone said I'm giving all my money away and it's leaving me skint with fuck all for myself and I'm struggling to make ends meet, going without food and electric. I wouldn't mind but the people I'm giving it to are wasting it..... First thing people would say is "WHOAAAAAAA, STOP RIGHT NOW!" No different in my eyes." I like that. Im going to keep that in mind | |||
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"Having romantic relationships isn't compulsory. If it's mot something you feel would add to your life and you're happy as you are then it's all good. " No it's not compulsory - well said. Surprisingly few people understand this. It's difficult to get through a month without someone doing a sympathetic head tilt and a ' don't worry you'll find someone ' ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"You're not supposed to give to get back. I know this " When it comes to a healthy relationship, I think you absolutely have to be getting something back for it to be fulfilling | |||
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"Just another thought for what it is worth: If we are becoming less emotionally available, does this mean we are becoming more insular and even more selfish?" No. It's been an interesting read this thread and not least because people seem to speak of this stage of 'self' being a negative and against the expectations of others. To me, this shows how waking up to you, your own norms and needs causes needless anxiety. | |||
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"You're not supposed to give to get back. I know this When it comes to a healthy relationship, I think you absolutely have to be getting something back for it to be fulfilling " Yes, because if you feel you give more than you get, the only thing that happens is that resentment builds Which eventually turns into " youre taking the fucking piss out of me" | |||
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"You're not supposed to give to get back. I know this But continually giving of yourself, and loving, and that love not being reciprocated gets hard Its hard not to turn it upon oneself and think " why do people treat me like this. Is it my fault?" Ive just got to the point where the other human's behaviour makes me sad So its time to give that love to myself And so it should. Let's replace emotion with money. If someone said I'm giving all my money away and it's leaving me skint with fuck all for myself and I'm struggling to make ends meet, going without food and electric. I wouldn't mind but the people I'm giving it to are wasting it..... First thing people would say is "WHOAAAAAAA, STOP RIGHT NOW!" No different in my eyes. Good analogy ![]() but not in mine...... tho I get the gist | |||
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"Having romantic relationships isn't compulsory. If it's mot something you feel would add to your life and you're happy as you are then it's all good. No it's not compulsory - well said. Surprisingly few people understand this. It's difficult to get through a month without someone doing a sympathetic head tilt and a ' don't worry you'll find someone ' ![]() ![]() ![]() Honestly I admire single by choice people as its good to have that level of self awareness rather than forcing yourself into a string of relationships that don't make you happy just because it's "what you're supposed to do". As someone who doesn't want children I relate to the lack of understanding and weird, unwanted sympathy. I'm waiting for the assumptions that I can't have them to start rolling in. That will be fun ![]() | |||
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"Having romantic relationships isn't compulsory. If it's mot something you feel would add to your life and you're happy as you are then it's all good. No it's not compulsory - well said. Surprisingly few people understand this. It's difficult to get through a month without someone doing a sympathetic head tilt and a ' don't worry you'll find someone ' ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Oh I did the whole string of relationships thing for 20 years. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Having romantic relationships isn't compulsory. If it's mot something you feel would add to your life and you're happy as you are then it's all good. No it's not compulsory - well said. Surprisingly few people understand this. It's difficult to get through a month without someone doing a sympathetic head tilt and a ' don't worry you'll find someone ' ![]() ![]() ![]() I was one of them... I have a boss whose never had a romantic relationship and she's in her early 60's now. I nievely thought 'how can you not want to be in a relationship?' but now I totally get it. | |||
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"Having romantic relationships isn't compulsory. If it's mot something you feel would add to your life and you're happy as you are then it's all good. No it's not compulsory - well said. Surprisingly few people understand this. It's difficult to get through a month without someone doing a sympathetic head tilt and a ' don't worry you'll find someone ' ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Hey its not easy! The weight of societal pressure sure is heavy. It's why we have so many people spending years not living as their true selves for a variety of reasons. It's cool, I wasn't expecting it to go away any time soon ![]() | |||
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"Having romantic relationships isn't compulsory. If it's mot something you feel would add to your life and you're happy as you are then it's all good. No it's not compulsory - well said. Surprisingly few people understand this. It's difficult to get through a month without someone doing a sympathetic head tilt and a ' don't worry you'll find someone ' ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Pleased I’m not the only one who made that decision and have no regrets whatsoever | |||
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"I think over time I have become emotionally unavailable. I can usually chat to people, have interesting and fun conversations but as far as actually letting somebody in so that I could start to care about them, it's like that door is very firmly locked and shut. As far as friendships go, I have good friends who I care very much about, though as far as letting emotions develop further than friendship it's like that option is greyed out permanently. I've stopped feeling patient and caring for people (past my friendships), possibly as a result of being let down and hurt on occasion and partially maybe just despairing of the human race and and people's behaviour. I feel in the past I've invested time and emotion in building relationships and trying to understand people, and I feel now like I've emptied my resources. It seems that like maybe I've just got to a place where I'm an independent self-sufficient woman and I feel like I don't want or need anybody else apart from for light-hearted friendship and fun. I feel like I don't have the patience, time or mental space to tolerate people's behaviour. Does anybody else feel like this, it doesn't feel like a bad thing, but I do ponder it occasionally. Oh God yes!!! Im at the point where I wouldnt care if I never saw another human ever again I'm utterly sick of selfish, self serving, disrespectful, users." Yep, pretty much xx | |||
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"You're not supposed to give to get back. I know this When it comes to a healthy relationship, I think you absolutely have to be getting something back for it to be fulfilling Yes, because if you feel you give more than you get, the only thing that happens is that resentment builds Which eventually turns into " youre taking the fucking piss out of me"" ![]() | |||
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"You're not supposed to give to get back. I know this When it comes to a healthy relationship, I think you absolutely have to be getting something back for it to be fulfilling Yes, because if you feel you give more than you get, the only thing that happens is that resentment builds Which eventually turns into " youre taking the fucking piss out of me" ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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