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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I have a background in the BDSM lifestyle, I have been part of many chat groups, clubs and munches. One thing you learn is Dominant, submissive or switch, everyone is equal. Kink shaming isn’t tolerated.

Moving across to the swinging world, where I would guess everyone is trying to achieve the same goal, that is, when we can someone or people to meet whether socially or for play time I have never seen so much intolerance of people. Bigotry. Shaming. All sorts.

How and why is this tolerated? If this happened in the BDSM world the conversation would be closed down and the word Respect and tolerance would be used.

There is a difference in trying to learn and actively creating provoking posts or comments in them. What do people think they will achieve?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No idea.

I dont have any advice to offer than you do your thing and let everyone else do theirs.

No judgement.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have a background in the BDSM lifestyle, I have been part of many chat groups, clubs and munches. One thing you learn is Dominant, submissive or switch, everyone is equal. Kink shaming isn’t tolerated.

Moving across to the swinging world, where I would guess everyone is trying to achieve the same goal, that is, when we can someone or people to meet whether socially or for play time I have never seen so much intolerance of people. Bigotry. Shaming. All sorts.

How and why is this tolerated? If this happened in the BDSM world the conversation would be closed down and the word Respect and tolerance would be used.

There is a difference in trying to learn and actively creating provoking posts or comments in them. What do people think they will achieve?"

I think because Fab isn’t really the swinging world in the same way as the BDSM lifestyle. The BDSM lifestyle has a code and attracts people who understand the code. Whereas Fab is a fuck site and attracts people from a much wider range on the evolutionary spectrum. Tolerance and respect aren’t values for all stages on that spectrum.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I have a background in the BDSM lifestyle, I have been part of many chat groups, clubs and munches. One thing you learn is Dominant, submissive or switch, everyone is equal. Kink shaming isn’t tolerated.

Moving across to the swinging world, where I would guess everyone is trying to achieve the same goal, that is, when we can someone or people to meet whether socially or for play time I have never seen so much intolerance of people. Bigotry. Shaming. All sorts.

How and why is this tolerated? If this happened in the BDSM world the conversation would be closed down and the word Respect and tolerance would be used.

There is a difference in trying to learn and actively creating provoking posts or comments in them. What do people think they will achieve?"

* when we can meet people for fun or social

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh I know why. Fab isn't full of open minded people like they claim to be

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bear in mind most on fab don't even associate with being swingers let alone anything else!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have a background in the BDSM lifestyle, I have been part of many chat groups, clubs and munches. One thing you learn is Dominant, submissive or switch, everyone is equal. Kink shaming isn’t tolerated.

Moving across to the swinging world, where I would guess everyone is trying to achieve the same goal, that is, when we can someone or people to meet whether socially or for play time I have never seen so much intolerance of people. Bigotry. Shaming. All sorts.

How and why is this tolerated? If this happened in the BDSM world the conversation would be closed down and the word Respect and tolerance would be used.

There is a difference in trying to learn and actively creating provoking posts or comments in them. What do people think they will achieve?

I think because Fab isn’t really the swinging world in the same way as the BDSM lifestyle. The BDSM lifestyle has a code and attracts people who understand the code. Whereas Fab is a fuck site and attracts people from a much wider range on the evolutionary spectrum. Tolerance and respect aren’t values for all stages on that spectrum."

A fuck site!

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

It's gotten a little better than when I first joined but still a lot of it about. Personally I make an effort to talk about my kinks despite the shaming. I've been called all sorts by a nasty but vocal minority but if it makes one person more comfortable to talk about it too then it's worth it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have a background in the BDSM lifestyle, I have been part of many chat groups, clubs and munches. One thing you learn is Dominant, submissive or switch, everyone is equal. Kink shaming isn’t tolerated.

Moving across to the swinging world, where I would guess everyone is trying to achieve the same goal, that is, when we can someone or people to meet whether socially or for play time I have never seen so much intolerance of people. Bigotry. Shaming. All sorts.

How and why is this tolerated? If this happened in the BDSM world the conversation would be closed down and the word Respect and tolerance would be used.

There is a difference in trying to learn and actively creating provoking posts or comments in them. What do people think they will achieve?"

Guilty. Agreed it shouldn't be like that at all and agree all equals. But I may have poked at threads before.

(hangs head in shame)

But... It does draw people out and you get to the see their attitudes.

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By *rongstantineWoman
over a year ago

hull

Equally I've been ashamed to be at events where kinksters like to play "shock and shame the swingers".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have a background in the BDSM lifestyle, I have been part of many chat groups, clubs and munches. One thing you learn is Dominant, submissive or switch, everyone is equal. Kink shaming isn’t tolerated.

Moving across to the swinging world, where I would guess everyone is trying to achieve the same goal, that is, when we can someone or people to meet whether socially or for play time I have never seen so much intolerance of people. Bigotry. Shaming. All sorts.

How and why is this tolerated? If this happened in the BDSM world the conversation would be closed down and the word Respect and tolerance would be used.

There is a difference in trying to learn and actively creating provoking posts or comments in them. What do people think they will achieve?

I think because Fab isn’t really the swinging world in the same way as the BDSM lifestyle. The BDSM lifestyle has a code and attracts people who understand the code. Whereas Fab is a fuck site and attracts people from a much wider range on the evolutionary spectrum. Tolerance and respect aren’t values for all stages on that spectrum.

A fuck site! "

Yep that’s how it is treated by a large proportion of the people who use it. I don’t know the proportions and the beliefs but the predominance of men on the site means it has a large number who behave like it is a just a sex site. There isn’t an ethical code.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ive learnt that it's not being a swinger that makes people broadminded, tolerant inclusive and nice to others. I used to be astonished at how judgmental many people on here are. Visiting the forums has educated me and made me realise that racists, mysogynists, homophobes, bigots, communists, facists and many more 'ists' can all be swingers as well

Its a wonderful world

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By *irty PrettyWoman
over a year ago

Cardiff

If it makes you feel any better I’ve seen a ton of kink-shaming in BDSM spaces, mainly about DD/lg and furries but about plenty of other stuff as well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ive learnt that it's not being a swinger that makes people broadminded, tolerant inclusive and nice to others. I used to be astonished at how judgmental many people on here are. Visiting the forums has educated me and made me realise that racists, mysogynists, homophobes, bigots, communists, facists and many more 'ists' can all be swingers as well

Its a wonderful world "
. Yes this site is a very broad ‘church’

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"If it makes you feel any better I’ve seen a ton of kink-shaming in BDSM spaces, mainly about DD/lg and furries but about plenty of other stuff as well."

Yep. I even heard someone shaming age play at a DDlg social

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah right, like everything is that clear cut, I’m not buying it, things are never that simple, very rarely things are black or white, there’s always subtle shades of grey in between.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ve come here with my preconceived ideas and I just want them validated, they aren’t based in any actual evidence but in a very small sample size.

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By *izzabelle and well hungCouple
over a year ago

Edinburgh.

Being in both worlds we have always found the swing world more friendly. There’s a better balance in kink. There’s a lot higher ratios of women to men in kink than swinging and that makes the women in kink “a softer mark”. Imagine the swinging world where 90% of the women were straight and 90% of the people on the scene were women. It’s a buyer market.

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

A number of points OP:

I haven't frequented BDSM sites for a number of years but most of those I did were very BDSM related and other topics rarely cropped up, whereas here you have an area like The Lounge or the Virus forum etc that for the most part are nothing to do with swinging and can cover everything from what people had for tea through to the best way to do reverse cowgirl while juggling blancmanges to more meaty subjects such as topical news stories and more - in fact there are times I think the Lounge is more like MumsNet than a site for swingers/NSA hook ups - so with that broader range of topics you are bound to get more contentious ones and room for differing opinions, compared to a BDSM related site where there's a common focus.

This site will also have a broader rather than niche appeal and you'll get people that join thinking it means they'll be knee deep in sex just for signing up, so you'll get a broader range of personalities/mindsets.

And of course internet forums regardless of the topic, will always bring out the keyboard warriors and the like who are always determined to rattle cages etc.

I also seem to remember that some of the BDSM forums of yore that I frequented attracted some fairly contentious stuff too - although as I said they tended to mostly stick to the topic of BDSM rather than being a free for all as it is here.

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By *ain n MableWoman
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

What's your reasoning behind your belief that it's tolerated?

An example would be good to prove your point.

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By *stbury DavenportMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

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By *hysoseriouslyMan
over a year ago

Kent

Jack, a good and well thought out post sir (I mean that in the hello sense not the D/s on of course haha).

I too have a similar experience and used the forums on the more specialist kink sites for a coupe of decades now. The level of equality and tolerance there is great and there is little to no judgement (most of the time). Also you can use the forums there fir advice and learning more about your particular desires. Generally people don’t post unless being helpful or flirtatious.

I was surprised to see here that this isn’t always the case. It’s a shame as Fab is full of great people and can often be the best of laughs (nods to PW’s recent work post). I wish there was more of this, but it takes kinda far greater than mine to figure it out.

Happy fabbing and chatting people

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"What's your reasoning behind your belief that it's tolerated?

An example would be good to prove your point. "

If you’re referring to my original post I apologise as there’s a typo in there.

It should read an intolerance of people

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By *hysoseriouslyMan
over a year ago

Kent


"A number of points OP:

I haven't frequented BDSM sites for a number of years but most of those I did were very BDSM related and other topics rarely cropped up, whereas here you have an area like The Lounge or the Virus forum etc that for the most part are nothing to do with swinging and can cover everything from what people had for tea through to the best way to do reverse cowgirl while juggling blancmanges to more meaty subjects such as topical news stories and more - in fact there are times I think the Lounge is more like MumsNet than a site for swingers/NSA hook ups - so with that broader range of topics you are bound to get more contentious ones and room for differing opinions, compared to a BDSM related site where there's a common focus.

This site will also have a broader rather than niche appeal and you'll get people that join thinking it means they'll be knee deep in sex just for signing up, so you'll get a broader range of personalities/mindsets.

And of course internet forums regardless of the topic, will always bring out the keyboard warriors and the like who are always determined to rattle cages etc.

I also seem to remember that some of the BDSM forums of yore that I frequented attracted some fairly contentious stuff too - although as I said they tended to mostly stick to the topic of BDSM rather than being a free for all as it is here."

Comparing the lounge to mums net.. laughed my head off mate! Nice analogy

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By *stbury DavenportMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

Similarly to the OP, I come from a BDSM background, and I've been frankly disgusted by a lot of the behaviour on here.

From open racism and transphobia through to paranoia, murderous fascism and genocide-but-we-won't-call-it-that, I'm beginning to think that there might not be any depths left unplumbed.

Sometimes I wonder if I've fallen out the bottom of Fab and ended up on a Daily Mail forum. Wouldn't be surprised to find out that Katie Hopkins has an account on here.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"What's your reasoning behind your belief that it's tolerated?

An example would be good to prove your point. "

Today I have read various posts saying slavery was their fault, what Hitler did advanced medical research.

Tolerated because the posts still exist

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By *ympho6969Woman
over a year ago

glasgow

Completely agree with the OP.

I may not like some of the kinks or interests of others, but I do not judge them for their tastes. Move on and do your own thing. Similarly, i know people won't understand some of my interests.

Each to their own, and as long as people aren't being hurt (unless they want to be) and everything is legal, then let people do their thing.

I have sometimes asked people to explain their interests if ita something I know nothing about, to further my knowledge and understanding of the subject. Most are very happy to help when they know you're genuinely curious.

People need to step back and ask, would I like this if someone said the same thing about my interests/kinks/tastes?

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By *irty PrettyWoman
over a year ago

Cardiff


"If it makes you feel any better I’ve seen a ton of kink-shaming in BDSM spaces, mainly about DD/lg and furries but about plenty of other stuff as well.

Yep. I even heard someone shaming age play at a DDlg social "

What?! Had they infiltrated just to have a go at everyone else?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Completely agree with the OP.

I may not like some of the kinks or interests of others, but I do not judge them for their tastes. Move on and do your own thing. Similarly, i know people won't understand some of my interests.

Each to their own, and as long as people aren't being hurt (unless they want to be) and everything is legal, then let people do their thing.

I have sometimes asked people to explain their interests if ita something I know nothing about, to further my knowledge and understanding of the subject. Most are very happy to help when they know you're genuinely curious.

People need to step back and ask, would I like this if someone said the same thing about my interests/kinks/tastes? "
agreed

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By *irty PrettyWoman
over a year ago

Cardiff


"What's your reasoning behind your belief that it's tolerated?

An example would be good to prove your point. "

I don’t know what examples OP has in mind, but for the kink-shaming you can look at any thread on DD/lg for a start.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"If it makes you feel any better I’ve seen a ton of kink-shaming in BDSM spaces, mainly about DD/lg and furries but about plenty of other stuff as well.

Yep. I even heard someone shaming age play at a DDlg social

What?! Had they infiltrated just to have a go at everyone else?"

Nope, their dynamic just didn't involve age play which is true for many DDlg dynamics but they then took it upon themselves to shame those who did include it. Crazy stuff.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ve seen people slagging off others in the bdsm community - however I think because more people are firm on boundaries in bdsm it’s not tolerated at much? Not sure - do you have any examples or shaming in swinging OP? X

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By *hysoseriouslyMan
over a year ago

Kent


"Completely agree with the OP.

I may not like some of the kinks or interests of others, but I do not judge them for their tastes. Move on and do your own thing. Similarly, i know people won't understand some of my interests.

Each to their own, and as long as people aren't being hurt (unless they want to be) and everything is legal, then let people do their thing.

I have sometimes asked people to explain their interests if ita something I know nothing about, to further my knowledge and understanding of the subject. Most are very happy to help when they know you're genuinely curious.

People need to step back and ask, would I like this if someone said the same thing about my interests/kinks/tastes? "

Exactly!

We should have that thought process about all people opinions we don’t agree with or find weird.

Or as my gran would say.

If you can’t say anything nice...

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By *irty PrettyWoman
over a year ago

Cardiff


"If it makes you feel any better I’ve seen a ton of kink-shaming in BDSM spaces, mainly about DD/lg and furries but about plenty of other stuff as well.

Yep. I even heard someone shaming age play at a DDlg social

What?! Had they infiltrated just to have a go at everyone else?

Nope, their dynamic just didn't involve age play which is true for many DDlg dynamics but they then took it upon themselves to shame those who did include it. Crazy stuff. "

Oh right, the “we’re better and more pure because it’s non-sexual” brigade

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I’ve seen people slagging off others in the bdsm community - however I think because more people are firm on boundaries in bdsm it’s not tolerated at much? Not sure - do you have any examples or shaming in swinging OP? X"

Put all the trans in one room is currently running on one thread I’d consider that many forms of shaming

My post also mentions other areas and as I’ve previously put a post today said the slaves in African countries asked for it and what Hitler did advanced medical science

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"If it makes you feel any better I’ve seen a ton of kink-shaming in BDSM spaces, mainly about DD/lg and furries but about plenty of other stuff as well.

Yep. I even heard someone shaming age play at a DDlg social

What?! Had they infiltrated just to have a go at everyone else?

Nope, their dynamic just didn't involve age play which is true for many DDlg dynamics but they then took it upon themselves to shame those who did include it. Crazy stuff.

Oh right, the “we’re better and more pure because it’s non-sexual” brigade "

Not quite but I've experienced them too

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By *anshee99Woman
over a year ago

all over

Because this site isn't just swingers anymore. Its full of normal folk wanting an easy shag.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’ve seen people slagging off others in the bdsm community - however I think because more people are firm on boundaries in bdsm it’s not tolerated at much? Not sure - do you have any examples or shaming in swinging OP? X

Put all the trans in one room is currently running on one thread I’d consider that many forms of shaming

My post also mentions other areas and as I’ve previously put a post today said the slaves in African countries asked for it and what Hitler did advanced medical science "

The trans thread has been reported I’d hope it is removed soon.

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull


"I have a background in the BDSM lifestyle, I have been part of many chat groups, clubs and munches. One thing you learn is Dominant, submissive or switch, everyone is equal. Kink shaming isn’t tolerated.

Moving across to the swinging world, where I would guess everyone is trying to achieve the same goal, that is, when we can someone or people to meet whether socially or for play time I have never seen so much intolerance of people. Bigotry. Shaming. All sorts.

How and why is this tolerated? If this happened in the BDSM world the conversation would be closed down and the word Respect and tolerance would be used.

There is a difference in trying to learn and actively creating provoking posts or comments in them. What do people think they will achieve?"

Maybe some of the bdsm community are strict

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’ve seen people slagging off others in the bdsm community - however I think because more people are firm on boundaries in bdsm it’s not tolerated at much? Not sure - do you have any examples or shaming in swinging OP? X

Put all the trans in one room is currently running on one thread I’d consider that many forms of shaming

My post also mentions other areas and as I’ve previously put a post today said the slaves in African countries asked for it and what Hitler did advanced medical science

The trans thread has been reported I’d hope it is removed soon."

Correction TV room post has been removed.

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By *amie HantsWoman
over a year ago

Atlantis

There was a thread that went up in flames the other day because a guy had a specific kink.

Some of the comments were horrendous. The frustrating part was the comments that were horrible were from posters who are so vocal on the inclusive threads about how they accept everyone.

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"

We should have that thought process about all people opinions we don’t agree with or find weird.

"

The trouble is here though that all too often a differing opinion is seen as an attack rather than simply being a differing opinion - and the pack mentality kicks in and the owner of said opinion gets royally rounded on.

Now in some instances where the opinion is fundamentally flawed or based in bigotry it's of course inevitable it will, and should, happen - but when it's something subjective like a kink then it goes beyond the pale in the majority of cases

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


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Comparing the lounge to mums net.. laughed my head off mate! Nice analogy "

Well if the cap fits and all that

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

As a whips and chains man for many many years it has always made me laugh when some fab swingers call those not into the 'lifestyle' call those who are not swingers vanilla.

There are many many lovely people on here and each to there own.. live and let live folks...just different tastes.. let's all get on..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the forums are rife for kink shaming especially if that kink is spoken about by guys topics like adult baby / diaper fun are beaten down with howls of laughter or abuse but if a woman was to say then they all crowd her like a rimming fest ....

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By *etcplCouple
over a year ago

Gapping Fanny

Intolerance exists in every facet of life regardless of the lifestyle you live.

I would not hold up BDSM as a shining example of how people should behave considering quite a lot of what is done is of dubious legality.

There is also far more kink shaming that goes on then you may realise or see (which can be more visible when you get out to venues and meet people), as well as all the other dramamamama that comes with Predators, consent violators, dangerous Dom(me)s, frenzied subs, bad educators etc.

But BDSM is our life and we wouldn’t change it for the world, warts and all.

We have made some amazing friends, and are lucky that we have a great bunch of people and venues in our world.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"the forums are rife for kink shaming especially if that kink is spoken about by guys topics like adult baby / diaper fun are beaten down with howls of laughter or abuse but if a woman was to say then they all crowd her like a rimming fest .... "

Nah I've had loads of abuse on here for my kinks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree there's a lot of kink shaming. I don't think I've been part of it as I think I'm very accepting and inclusive. But in saying that I have caused a stir on particular subjects because of the way they've been approached.

But on the other sites or communitys there is a reputation of them being more superior types of people that will decide or judge if you fit what they think you say you are. As a result I've not entered into discussions there as I find people more approachable on here and far more friendly as they generally are more accepting one on one.

Any forum in any subject in life ends up with trolls, those that think they know it all and others across the whole spectrum that will inevitably clash and differ as well those that will agree and gel.

As far as tolerating things go in here you can chose to comment or not or use the report feature and let the mods know.

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster


"I have a background in the BDSM lifestyle, I have been part of many chat groups, clubs and munches. One thing you learn is Dominant, submissive or switch, everyone is equal. Kink shaming isn’t tolerated.

Moving across to the swinging world, where I would guess everyone is trying to achieve the same goal, that is, when we can someone or people to meet whether socially or for play time I have never seen so much intolerance of people. Bigotry. Shaming. All sorts.

How and why is this tolerated? If this happened in the BDSM world the conversation would be closed down and the word Respect and tolerance would be used.

There is a difference in trying to learn and actively creating provoking posts or comments in them. What do people think they will achieve?"
I know exactly what you mean op , I've come across a couple of threads this evening ridiculing certain lifestyle choices with a undercurrent theme going through it, it wouldn't be tolerated in the real world so why the hell does it get allowed to go on this site ? It's truly sickening

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’ve seen people slagging off others in the bdsm community - however I think because more people are firm on boundaries in bdsm it’s not tolerated at much? Not sure - do you have any examples or shaming in swinging OP? X"

Any thread about DDlg or even being called Daddy in the heat of the moment is guaranteed to bring on the shaming. Even discussing anal tends to bring out the judgemental side of a few people.

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By *iger4uWoman
over a year ago

In my happy place

Fifty shades has a lot to answer for.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

The Lounge seems to me to be an escapism break from the mundane scripted swinging conversations.. dip in and dip out..

My observation is that some belittle the lounge by calling it Mumsnet but the same people never seem to start a thread but jump on the threads that others start...

They are the ones with little imagination or desire to be original or stimulating in any literay sense.. they are the Mood Hoovers.. or as I call them..

Boring.. long live the Lounge

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By *ympho6969Woman
over a year ago

glasgow


"I’ve seen people slagging off others in the bdsm community - however I think because more people are firm on boundaries in bdsm it’s not tolerated at much? Not sure - do you have any examples or shaming in swinging OP? X

Any thread about DDlg or even being called Daddy in the heat of the moment is guaranteed to bring on the shaming. Even discussing anal tends to bring out the judgemental side of a few people."

Which isn't right and is the whole point of the OPs post. People may not agree or understand. Heck, they may even be repulsed, that doesn't mean it should be mentioned in any rude manner.

Respect and manners cost nothing and I think more people need to remember that.

Personally the daddy thing does nothing for me and I don't particularly get the fascination. Doesn't mean I'm going to judge anyone who indulges in this activity. Do as you please. As long as I'm not asked to do it then I don't care.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP, i have found people from the BDSM world far more respectful in conversations and interactions in general, both on here and other sites - nothing is assumed, presumed, or taken for granted. Consent is sought and checked often.

I agree with you that there are many less than desirable views being aired across various threads but in honesty, i kinda like seeing people's true colours.... it makes it easier to block them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Comparing the lounge to mums net.. laughed my head off mate! Nice analogy

Well if the cap fits and all that "

Made me LOL too and I've never been on Mumsnet ... Don't even get me started on the daily fail stories

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch


"There was a thread that went up in flames the other day because a guy had a specific kink.

Some of the comments were horrendous. The frustrating part was the comments that were horrible were from posters who are so vocal on the inclusive threads about how they accept everyone. "

I know just the thread and you see it so many times. It seems it comes down to who posed the thread, whether that be a regular forum poster or indeed different between genders and the responses they will receive.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"There was a thread that went up in flames the other day because a guy had a specific kink.

Some of the comments were horrendous. The frustrating part was the comments that were horrible were from posters who are so vocal on the inclusive threads about how they accept everyone.

I know just the thread and you see it so many times. It seems it comes down to who posed the thread, whether that be a regular forum poster or indeed different between genders and the responses they will receive.

"

More evidence of the forum clique methinks...

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

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Some kinks are not allowed on the forum at all so anyone shaming them are the least of your problem

As another has said, people get shamed depending on who it is who starts the thread, then those doing the shaming then call others out if someone shames someone they like...it all seems very inconsistent.

The best thing to do is have a bit of respect for other peoples kinks ( as long as they are within site rules )

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