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"Put post notes around the place for her to find. Start slow, I'd like a bj. Build it up to I'd love to watch you being gangbanged in a nightclub by strangers. You could even have that last one tattooed on your body as a big reveal." This is great. Put all the notes out together though! See which one she finds first ![]() | |||
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"Start small and work up. Begin by creating a climate in which you can both talk about fantasies with no judgement on either side. It's as much about her fantasies as yours and you might find she has some that make you feel threatened. " +1 to this advice. Rather than jumping straight in with "I really want to see you being fucked by someone else," you need to create a safe, judgement-free environment for you both to be able to talk openly and honestly about both of your sexual wants and fantasies. It's important that she feels comfortable enough before being vulnerable in that way, and also to be able to listen to yours with more acceptance and open-mindedness. | |||
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"See its hard to get her to even open up about her fantasies, to the point she says she hasn't got any which I know isn't true and is her just closing up, I think it maybe her getting to embarrassed and feeling awkward talking about such things. The only time she opens up to a degree is while I'm pleasing her. She would never have any fantasy that would make me feel threatened so I guess it's a case of convincing her otherwise?" Yep, feel your pain there as mine often says the same thing. I think maybe the best tone to try and set for her is on a date night, where the subtext is already on the seductive, sexual side of things. Wine and dine her, share a couple of drinks to get tipsy and relaxed, get the flirty chat flowing, etc. This could lay the groundwork for such discussions, and then maybe while pleasuring her you can try some dirty talk and fantasy chat? It's a tough situation to be in, for sure, and I understand all too well your predicament. I wish you luck. | |||
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"I said to my partner.... "I have this fantasy...." I'm now single ![]() ![]() Was it the fantasy of posting a picture online of your genitals covered by tinsel and a box of Mr Kipling mince pies? ![]() | |||
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"I said to my partner.... "I have this fantasy...." I'm now single ![]() ![]() ![]() Hahaha... Nope... It was the fantasy of being single again ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I said to my partner.... "I have this fantasy...." I'm now single ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I meant ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"See its hard to get her to even open up about her fantasies, to the point she says she hasn't got any which I know isn't true and is her just closing up, I think it maybe her getting to embarrassed and feeling awkward talking about such things. The only time she opens up to a degree is while I'm pleasing her. She would never have any fantasy that would make me feel threatened so I guess it's a case of convincing her otherwise? " So why can't you just not? You know her we don't, you've clearly indicated it may not go down well with her at all and that it might negatively impact on her so just don't. If you knew she hated turkey would you try and talk her into eating it... No, you'd either have something else or she would and you'd have turkey. Keep your fantasies but don't try to make her share them when you already know it's not gonna be her thing. Only my view, ultimately its your choice. | |||
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"See its hard to get her to even open up about her fantasies, to the point she says she hasn't got any which I know isn't true and is her just closing up, I think it maybe her getting to embarrassed and feeling awkward talking about such things. The only time she opens up to a degree is while I'm pleasing her. She would never have any fantasy that would make me feel threatened so I guess it's a case of convincing her otherwise? So why can't you just not? You know her we don't, you've clearly indicated it may not go down well with her at all and that it might negatively impact on her so just don't. If you knew she hated turkey would you try and talk her into eating it... No, you'd either have something else or she would and you'd have turkey. Keep your fantasies but don't try to make her share them when you already know it's not gonna be her thing. Only my view, ultimately its your choice. " Turkey is lovely...... Very cheap at the moment too ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Sher is great like that i can tell her anything she will give her view but never take offence. I even said id like a threesome with her and her daughter and she just laughed" Did you fuck her daughter without her? | |||
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"Put post notes around the place for her to find. Start slow, I'd like a bj. Build it up to I'd love to watch you being gangbanged in a nightclub by strangers. You could even have that last one tattooed on your body as a big reveal." ![]() | |||
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"Probably not helpful for your position but I've only ever gotten into relationships with people I can openly talk about that kind of thing with. Though one suggestion would be that any topic should be up for discussion but that discussion should come with no expectation. Each person should feel just as comfortable to voice not being interested in something as they are to raise something. " This ![]() | |||
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"Sher is great like that i can tell her anything she will give her view but never take offence. I even said id like a threesome with her and her daughter and she just laughed Did you fuck her daughter without her?" No would like to lol and i told sher she just laughs | |||
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"Probably not helpful for your position but I've only ever gotten into relationships with people I can openly talk about that kind of thing with. Though one suggestion would be that any topic should be up for discussion but that discussion should come with no expectation. Each person should feel just as comfortable to voice not being interested in something as they are to raise something. This ![]() I don't really date anyone who just likes vanilla sex. I specifically seek out people who are a bit deviant in some way. Sex isn't everything but it's better to at least start from a place of decent compatibility. | |||
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"Start small and work up. Begin by creating a climate in which you can both talk about fantasies with no judgement on either side. It's as much about her fantasies as yours and you might find she has some that make you feel threatened. " Agree ....be honest open with each other ...little steps...you may get a nice surprise later on | |||
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"My advice is to not have the conversation at home. Go out somewhere new so that if the chat doesn't go well it wont spoil the location cor tour partner. You can either try and test the water by talking about a subject, or just go fully in. Its not just good enough to say what you want to do but why. Expect a typical reaction as to why she isn’t enough for you, which can hurt her self esteem. Be warned that once you open that bottle there is no getting it shut again. She will be suspicious about any behaviour and nay feel you are cheating even if you are not." The above is the best advice you have been given here. But as said above once you uncork that bottle it might be inpossible to shut it again. Imagine you feel after a few meets this is not for you but she now loves the experiences. When you lay your cards down be prepared to lose as if a guy shows her a better time than you she just might call and end to you and her. Thats the downfall of russian roulette swinging. You want this more than her otherwise she would be on here with you and not you on a singles profile. I am not slagging you off but just think it though or you might lose what you got for a thrill. Hope you decide whats best for you both. Atb. John | |||
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" never get it when people are married why they can't talk freely to each other that should be the number one thing in a relationship ... yet they are happy to ask stranger for the answers they should be getting from the people they love ...yet no one on here knows her ??? " ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"My advice is to not have the conversation at home. Go out somewhere new so that if the chat doesn't go well it wont spoil the location cor tour partner. You can either try and test the water by talking about a subject, or just go fully in. Its not just good enough to say what you want to do but why. Expect a typical reaction as to why she isn’t enough for you, which can hurt her self esteem. Be warned that once you open that bottle there is no getting it shut again. She will be suspicious about any behaviour and nay feel you are cheating even if you are not. The above is the best advice you have been given here. But as said above once you uncork that bottle it might be inpossible to shut it again. Imagine you feel after a few meets this is not for you but she now loves the experiences. When you lay your cards down be prepared to lose as if a guy shows her a better time than you she just might call and end to you and her. Thats the downfall of russian roulette swinging. You want this more than her otherwise she would be on here with you and not you on a singles profile. I am not slagging you off but just think it though or you might lose what you got for a thrill. Hope you decide whats best for you both. Atb. John" ![]() ![]() | |||
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"No she hasn't had many boyfriends but the way she acts and the signals I get from her is she would do it she's just reluctant for some reason" Talk to her. You simply can't assume you know what her intent is. You've probably opened up more to us than to her. Try it, you might be surprised | |||
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"never get it when people are married why they can't talk freely to each other that should be the number one thing in a relationship ..." You're right, and in a perfect world that's exactly how love, life and relationships would work all the time for everyone. Unfortunately, we don't live in a perfect world, and real life is much more complicated than that. | |||
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"No she hasn't had many boyfriends but the way she acts and the signals I get from her is she would do it she's just reluctant for some reason Talk to her. You simply can't assume you know what her intent is. You've probably opened up more to us than to her. Try it, you might be surprised " Thank you, your right in saying I've opened up more to you lot. I will open up to her about it very soon its just makig her believe I'm being genuine and not trying to catch her out at something. (last boyfriend was pretty paranoid apparently) + | |||
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"No she hasn't had many boyfriends but the way she acts and the signals I get from her is she would do it she's just reluctant for some reason Talk to her. You simply can't assume you know what her intent is. You've probably opened up more to us than to her. Try it, you might be surprised Thank you, your right in saying I've opened up more to you lot. I will open up to her about it very soon its just makig her believe I'm being genuine and not trying to catch her out at something. (last boyfriend was pretty paranoid apparently) +" Can you see the irony on trying to boost someone's confidence in you as someone they can trust by talking about them to other people? Why very soon? What's the problem with now? | |||
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