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"Sad state of affairs when a country like ours rich in wealth has a world charity doing this "It is There was a report on tv last night about a charity collecting christmas presents for children who wouldnt get any Children are going hungry in this country. Just as they did 100 years ago We should be ashamed | |||
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"Sadly we are in a world where increasingly the richer will get richer and more people than ever will get poorer. Unless we find a way to change that. Our systems are broken and the predominant mindsets of most people who can do anything about it are too busy in their idealogical civil wars to see with new eyes." Ideological even | |||
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"How is that possible, meanwhile 4 naval ships are patroling the waters to keep kippers and Mackrell safe from the French, at what cost to tax payers. " Nothing as they are in use anyway so even if they were not doing that they would be costing money to run  | |||
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"Apparently we're one of the richest countries on earth, but food banks are a thing, people are going hungry and folk are having to go without. Something is deeply wrong somewhere. "Sure is We messed up big time | |||
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"Apparently we're one of the richest countries on earth, but food banks are a thing, people are going hungry and folk are having to go without. Something is deeply wrong somewhere.
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"How is that possible, meanwhile 4 naval ships are patroling the waters to keep kippers and Mackrell safe from the French, at what cost to tax payers. Nothing as they are in use anyway so even if they were not doing that they would be costing money to run "the point being they were moved in a recent decision for a recent issue, No10 knows very well about the kids situation at hand, they got humiliated on the very subject a few months ago by Rashford and have done ffk all to combat the issue, they don't care simple as, which is worrying on many levels but most notable, the vast majority voted for them, so do they seek for the people on this issue? | |||
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"How is that possible, meanwhile 4 naval ships are patroling the waters to keep kippers and Mackrell safe from the French, at what cost to tax payers. " Yeah but you can’t trust the french they love playing with your kippers  | |||
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"Apparently this organisation are donating money to feed UK children for the first time ever. What's going on here? " i thought it was that footballer donating money? | |||
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"Sad state of affairs when a country like ours rich in wealth has a world charity doing this
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There was a report on tv last night about a charity collecting christmas presents for children who wouldnt get any
Children are going hungry in this country. Just as they did 100 years ago
We should be ashamed"Drugs and drink to blame mainly | |||
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"Apparently this organisation are donating money to feed UK children for the first time ever. What's going on here? i thought it was that footballer donating money?" Julio Geordio? | |||
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"There is more to this than meets the eye" You’ve just said that on another thread Thomas! | |||
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"There is more to this than meets the eye You’ve just said that on another thread Thomas!" I will say it again. There is more to this than meets the eye | |||
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"Apparently this organisation are donating money to feed UK children for the first time ever. What's going on here? i thought it was that footballer donating money? Julio Geordio?" rashford i think | |||
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"Charity begins at home but overseas funding is as much about bribes and influence as anything " United Nations Children's Fund = UNICEF. It's an international charity, Tom. It works throughout the world. | |||
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"Charity begins at home but overseas funding is as much about bribes and influence as anything United Nations Children's Fund = UNICEF. It's an international charity, Tom. It works throughout the world." That is an answer to a question I did not ask but what's going on here? | |||
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"There is more to this than meets the eye You’ve just said that on another thread Thomas! I will say it again. There is more to this than meets the eye " You just did | |||
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"There is more to this than meets the eye You’ve just said that on another thread Thomas! I will say it again. There is more to this than meets the eye You just did "Forces are at work here.. | |||
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"Charity begins at home but overseas funding is as much about bribes and influence as anything United Nations Children's Fund = UNICEF. It's an international charity, Tom. It works throughout the world. That is an answer to a question I did not ask but what's going on here?" You've suggested here that international funding is somehow related to bribery. I'm pointing out that the charity concerned works globally; it's part of the United Nations, of which we are a member. It's a worldwide charity for children across the world, the UK included, if it's needed. It's not about one country sending money to another. | |||
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"There is more to this than meets the eye You’ve just said that on another thread Thomas! I will say it again. There is more to this than meets the eye You just did
Forces are at work here.."The great reset? | |||
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"Charity begins at home but overseas funding is as much about bribes and influence as anything United Nations Children's Fund = UNICEF. It's an international charity, Tom. It works throughout the world. That is an answer to a question I did not ask but what's going on here? You've suggested here that international funding is somehow related to bribery. I'm pointing out that the charity concerned works globally; it's part of the United Nations, of which we are a member. It's a worldwide charity for children across the world, the UK included, if it's needed. It's not about one country sending money to another. " What is it about then ? | |||
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"Charity begins at home but overseas funding is as much about bribes and influence as anything United Nations Children's Fund = UNICEF. It's an international charity, Tom. It works throughout the world. That is an answer to a question I did not ask but what's going on here? You've suggested here that international funding is somehow related to bribery. I'm pointing out that the charity concerned works globally; it's part of the United Nations, of which we are a member. It's a worldwide charity for children across the world, the UK included, if it's needed. It's not about one country sending money to another. What is it about then ?" United Nations members contributing to a fund that can be used to support children anywhere in the world where children need help. That's what it's about. Search engine it, Tom
UNICEF might not have funded food for UK children in this way before, but it's been heavily involved in UK children's charitable work for many years and works across maternity hospitals in the UK via it's "Baby Friendly" initiative, which aims to support breastfeeding. That's but one example. The UNICEF website has plenty of info. | |||
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"Think they contributed only 25k.. What does that tell you ?" It tells me that Unicef has pledged a grant of £25,000 to the community project School Food Matters, which will use the money to supply 18,000 nutritious breakfasts to 25 schools over the two-week Christmas holidays and February half-term, feeding vulnerable children and families in Southwark, south London, who have been severely impacted by the coronavirus pandemic. The food delivery firm Abel & Cole will also provide 1.2 tonnes of fruit and veg worth £4,500 to include in the boxes. Source: The Guardian | |||
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"Think they contributed only 25k.. What does that tell you ? It tells me that Unicef has pledged a grant of £25,000 to the community project School Food Matters, which will use the money to supply 18,000 nutritious breakfasts to 25 schools over the two-week Christmas holidays and February half-term, feeding vulnerable children and families in Southwark, south London, who have been severely impacted by the coronavirus pandemic. The food delivery firm Abel & Cole will also provide 1.2 tonnes of fruit and veg worth £4,500 to include in the boxes. Source: The Guardian " The Guardian? Makes me think this is even murkier.. A donation to help discredit a government maybe? | |||
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"Cut down the ridiculously and undeservedly high salaries given to sports players and feed the children with it, job done "No. Cut the ridiculously high salaries of senior charity workers.. job done | |||
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"Think they contributed only 25k.. What does that tell you ? It tells me that Unicef has pledged a grant of £25,000 to the community project School Food Matters, which will use the money to supply 18,000 nutritious breakfasts to 25 schools over the two-week Christmas holidays and February half-term, feeding vulnerable children and families in Southwark, south London, who have been severely impacted by the coronavirus pandemic. The food delivery firm Abel & Cole will also provide 1.2 tonnes of fruit and veg worth £4,500 to include in the boxes. Source: The Guardian The Guardian? Makes me think this is even murkier.. A donation to help discredit a government maybe?" Tom smells a rat  | |||
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"Only 25 schools.. ? All very odd.. There is more to this than meets the eye" Read it again. The project is a community project in Southwark. The project organisers will have applied for funding for their project and acquired it from UNICEF. I've written plenty of funding bids to various charitable organisations, local authorities, private businesses etc. It's how charity projects work. It's got fuck all to do with the Government (the project, that is). | |||
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"Sadly we are in a world where increasingly the richer will get richer and more people than ever will get poorer. Unless we find a way to change that. Our systems are broken and the predominant mindsets of most people who can do anything about it are too busy in their idealogical civil wars to see with new eyes."
The tragic thing we allow it to happen and do fuck all about it. | |||
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"Cut down the ridiculously and undeservedly high salaries given to sports players and feed the children with it, job done "Yep cos it's only sports players who are overpaid. | |||
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"Sadly we are in a world where increasingly the richer will get richer and more people than ever will get poorer. Unless we find a way to change that. Our systems are broken and the predominant mindsets of most people who can do anything about it are too busy in their idealogical civil wars to see with new eyes.
The tragic thing we allow it to happen and do fuck all about it."You are correct once again Lionel... And people and newspapers using this for political gain | |||
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"Cut down the ridiculously and undeservedly high salaries given to sports players and feed the children with it, job done
Yep cos it's only sports players who are overpaid."Not just them, but it’s one great example of fucked up priorities | |||
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"Cut down the ridiculously and undeservedly high salaries given to sports players and feed the children with it, job done
Yep cos it's only sports players who are overpaid.
Not just them, but it’s one great example of fucked up priorities "military should get paid more | |||
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"Cut down the ridiculously and undeservedly high salaries given to sports players and feed the children with it, job done
Yep cos it's only sports players who are overpaid.
Not just them, but it’s one great example of fucked up priorities military should get paid more"Agreed | |||
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"Cut down the ridiculously and undeservedly high salaries given to sports players and feed the children with it, job done
Yep cos it's only sports players who are overpaid.
Not just them, but it’s one great example of fucked up priorities "Not really Football is one of the most popular games on the planet watched my millions. I'd rather the players get the money than the directors/shareholders. Quite what its gotta do with hungry kids is anyones guess. | |||
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"Only 25 UK schools benefitting from the UNICEF money yet lots of political points scoring being pedalled by the tabloids like the Guardian .. Wheels within wheels here" The guardian isn't a tabloid its classed as a broadsheet. We live in one of the wealthiest countries on the planet and kids are going that hungry,an international charity has intervened.Meanwhile the gmnt literally couldnt give a fuck. Maybe the guardian should just ignore it. | |||
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"Only 25 UK schools benefitting from the UNICEF money yet lots of political points scoring being pedalled by the tabloids like the Guardian .. Wheels within wheels here The guardian isn't a tabloid its classed as a broadsheet. We live in one of the wealthiest countries on the planet and kids are going that hungry,an international charity has intervened.Meanwhile the gmnt literally couldnt give a fuck. Maybe the guardian should just ignore it." Lionel.. you will find a class war even in a newspaper.. a pecking order.. a broadsheet superior to a tabloid.. The Guardian peddles more spin than a Test Match bowler.. 25k to pan the Tories.. money well spent and cheap at half the price.. I smell a rat... | |||
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"Only 25 UK schools benefitting from the UNICEF money yet lots of political points scoring being pedalled by the tabloids like the Guardian .. Wheels within wheels here The guardian isn't a tabloid its classed as a broadsheet. We live in one of the wealthiest countries on the planet and kids are going that hungry,an international charity has intervened.Meanwhile the gmnt literally couldnt give a fuck. Maybe the guardian should just ignore it. Lionel.. you will find a class war even in a newspaper.. a pecking order.. a broadsheet superior to a tabloid.. The Guardian peddles more spin than a Test Match bowler.. 25k to pan the Tories.. money well spent and cheap at half the price.. I smell a rat..." Course you do
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"Only 25 UK schools benefitting from the UNICEF money yet lots of political points scoring being pedalled by the tabloids like the Guardian .. Wheels within wheels here The guardian isn't a tabloid its classed as a broadsheet. We live in one of the wealthiest countries on the planet and kids are going that hungry,an international charity has intervened.Meanwhile the gmnt literally couldnt give a fuck. Maybe the guardian should just ignore it. Lionel.. you will find a class war even in a newspaper.. a pecking order.. a broadsheet superior to a tabloid.. The Guardian peddles more spin than a Test Match bowler.. 25k to pan the Tories.. money well spent and cheap at half the price.. I smell a rat... Course you do
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"Does it matter which newspaper reports the story? UNICEF are raising money to help children in this country - thats a fact. We have a Government of millionaires - look at the cabinet. It seems to be hard for them to empathise with people in poverty. The huge increase in foodbanks is a shocking indicment of Government and society. We really should be ashamed." We? I am not ashamed of my actions.. or omissions | |||
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"Does it matter which newspaper reports the story? UNICEF are raising money to help children in this country - thats a fact. We have a Government of millionaires - look at the cabinet. It seems to be hard for them to empathise with people in poverty. The huge increase in foodbanks is a shocking indicment of Government and society. We really should be ashamed."
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"Does it matter which newspaper reports the story? UNICEF are raising money to help children in this country - thats a fact. We have a Government of millionaires - look at the cabinet. It seems to be hard for them to empathise with people in poverty. The huge increase in foodbanks is a shocking indicment of Government and society. We really should be ashamed.
Its the type of society we have become "Or always were.. | |||
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"Only 25 UK schools benefitting from the UNICEF money yet lots of political points scoring being pedalled by the tabloids like the Guardian .. Wheels within wheels here The guardian isn't a tabloid its classed as a broadsheet. We live in one of the wealthiest countries on the planet and kids are going that hungry,an international charity has intervened.Meanwhile the gmnt literally couldnt give a fuck. Maybe the guardian should just ignore it. Lionel.. you will find a class war even in a newspaper.. a pecking order.. a broadsheet superior to a tabloid.. The Guardian peddles more spin than a Test Match bowler.. 25k to pan the Tories.. money well spent and cheap at half the price.. I smell a rat... Course you do
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No. But only 25 schools benefit.. what's going on here Lionel.. "Did you not read what was said above it is a local charity specific to the Southwark borough that asked for help from unicef for the children in that borough, hence why only 25 schools. I’m sure if you search, most local areas have charities helping those in need, most being supported by residents of the local communities. Just in my borough we have 8 different initiatives running and the locals, volunteers and the donations / support has been phenomenal. Southwark obviously needed extra help, as hard for locals to assist if they are the ones needing the help. | |||
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"Does it matter which newspaper reports the story? UNICEF are raising money to help children in this country - thats a fact. We have a Government of millionaires - look at the cabinet. It seems to be hard for them to empathise with people in poverty. The huge increase in foodbanks is a shocking indicment of Government and society. We really should be ashamed.
Its the type of society we have become
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"I do have a revolutionary idea though.. how about parents feeding their own kids.. " Now you are just on a wind up ! | |||
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"I do have a revolutionary idea though.. how about parents feeding their own kids.. " Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand there we have it, ladies and gentlemen  | |||
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"I do have a revolutionary idea though.. how about parents feeding their own kids.. Now you are just on a wind up ! " Our Tom is a maestro at it | |||
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"I do have a revolutionary idea though.. how about parents feeding their own kids.. Now you are just on a wind up ! Our Tom is a maestro at it" I’m aware but this one is a little bit below the belt ! | |||
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"We should be ashamed that we have have food banks in the uk. It disgusting and shameful. " Yes.. Build them and they will come.. | |||
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"We should be ashamed that we have have food banks in the uk. It disgusting and shameful. Yes.. Build them and they will come.." Share the wealth and they will go | |||
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"We should be ashamed that we have have food banks in the uk. It disgusting and shameful. Yes.. Build them and they will come.. Share the wealth and they will go " Maybe take the wealth Comrade.. Redistribute it.. And install your leaders in those palaces once occupied by the rich and influential.. | |||
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"We should be ashamed that we have have food banks in the uk. It disgusting and shameful. Yes.. Build them and they will come.. Share the wealth and they will go Maybe take the wealth Comrade.. Redistribute it.. And install your leaders in those palaces once occupied by the rich and influential.. " Just care about and for one another. | |||
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" The Guardian peddles more spin than a Test Match bowler.. " That really is laughable coming from someone renowned for posting half a story written in such a way as to stir the hornet's nest!! It really is quite simple - UNICEF is a charity that is connected to the United Nations (of which the UK is a member) to help children in need, regardless of the country they are from - they have donated £25,000 to help a local area in London (that well known war zone according to you OP!!) feed it's children in need at a time of crisis. Just as many other charities across the country and the world are doing - it's relevant and it's newsworthy and ties in with other similar stories such as the work Marcus Rashford is doing so I can only conclude that once again the pot is being stirred for no apparent reason here. | |||
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"We should be ashamed that we have have food banks in the uk. It disgusting and shameful. Yes.. Build them and they will come.. Share the wealth and they will go Maybe take the wealth Comrade.. Redistribute it.. And install your leaders in those palaces once occupied by the rich and influential.. " Yes, wanting to end child hunger is like communist Russia  | |||
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"We should be ashamed that we have have food banks in the uk. It disgusting and shameful. Yes.. Build them and they will come.. Share the wealth and they will go Maybe take the wealth Comrade.. Redistribute it.. And install your leaders in those palaces once occupied by the rich and influential.. Yes, wanting to end child hunger is like communist Russia " | |||
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"I'm sure some dumb fuck will soon pipe up and say socialism is the answer" Nice. | |||
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"Socialism is the answer" And how did that work out if going by history? | |||
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"Socialism is the answer And how did that work out if going by history?" I was taking the piss. | |||
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"Socialism is the answer" In communist Russia, answer socialism you | |||
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"Nice to see people have their priorities in order " And according to you, what should our priorities be? | |||
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"Nice to see people have their priorities in order And according to you, what should our priorities be? " Deprived kids A Rich country A charity getting involved The gmnt doing fuck all Trivialarities like that. | |||
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"Nice to see people have their priorities in order And according to you, what should our priorities be? Deprived kids A Rich country A charity getting involved The gmnt doing fuck all Trivialarities like that. " Nah, Fuck em | |||
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"Nice to see people have their priorities in order And according to you, what should our priorities be? Deprived kids A Rich country A charity getting involved The gmnt doing fuck all Trivialarities like that. Nah, Fuck em" Indeed. | |||
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"For fucks sake tom, does literally everything have to be some sort of conspiracy with you" Well not everything but I look at things in different ways to some of even most. That's diversity I suppose. Let's embrace diversity and look after Essex Tom despite his views... | |||
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"For fucks sake tom, does literally everything have to be some sort of conspiracy with you Well not everything but I look at things in different ways to some of even most. That's diversity I suppose. Let's embrace diversity and look after Essex Tom despite his views..." I guess any attention is good attention? | |||
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"Let’s face it, we are living through an unprecedented historical moment. All humans and potentially all life on Earth is facing an existential crisis. Food poverty, and needing to apply for aid from UNICEF and food banks are just symptomatic of the material problems we have created, that are causing a planet-wide system crash. How can we feed 10 billion people, when ecosystems collapse to a point where they can only support 1 billion? We’ve not got to got long to work out how we can do this. Money and people can be thrown at the problems, however there are significant obstacles. Finding concrete solutions to our global collapse is impeded by walls, built from the building blocks of personal, social, political and economic limitations. The oligarchs and global capitalist elite have erected, maintained and promoted those walls to increase their own financial security, at the expense of hurtling us towards a future, that is clearly on a trajectory towards disastrous collapse. Nevertheless these walls can be torn down and there is a global community attempting to do so. Often that community is looked at with disdain by those who have been hoodwinked and sedated by the media in collusion with the power brokers, and those paralysed by the existential anxieties this brittle, anxiety inducing, non-linear, incomprehensible world produces. However, there is one set of blocks in the wall that we can control and they are our personal blocks. Those blocks are underpinned by our own existential anxiety, our own fear of death. Breaking through our own fears is the way to finding the personal freedom to act for the good of humanity. In that way we can discover the capacity and resilience to overcome the brittleness, the empathy and mindfulness to help those who are anxious, the transparency of data and intuition to make sense of the incomprehensible, and the necessary context and adaptability to navigate the web on non-liners system that need to be transformed. When all around suggests we are in an era of catastrophic collapse, we are also on the precipice of the age of transformation and integration. All we need to do is face our fears and see with new eyes...... " We have people in this country who live in homes costing millions of pounds. We have other people who can barely enough to survive There is plenty to go round It's about minimising those inequalities..instead we are hell bent on making them bigger. | |||
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"Let’s face it, we are living through an unprecedented historical moment. All humans and potentially all life on Earth is facing an existential crisis. Food poverty, and needing to apply for aid from UNICEF and food banks are just symptomatic of the material problems we have created, that are causing a planet-wide system crash. How can we feed 10 billion people, when ecosystems collapse to a point where they can only support 1 billion? We’ve not got to got long to work out how we can do this. Money and people can be thrown at the problems, however there are significant obstacles. Finding concrete solutions to our global collapse is impeded by walls, built from the building blocks of personal, social, political and economic limitations. The oligarchs and global capitalist elite have erected, maintained and promoted those walls to increase their own financial security, at the expense of hurtling us towards a future, that is clearly on a trajectory towards disastrous collapse. Nevertheless these walls can be torn down and there is a global community attempting to do so. Often that community is looked at with disdain by those who have been hoodwinked and sedated by the media in collusion with the power brokers, and those paralysed by the existential anxieties this brittle, anxiety inducing, non-linear, incomprehensible world produces. However, there is one set of blocks in the wall that we can control and they are our personal blocks. Those blocks are underpinned by our own existential anxiety, our own fear of death. Breaking through our own fears is the way to finding the personal freedom to act for the good of humanity. In that way we can discover the capacity and resilience to overcome the brittleness, the empathy and mindfulness to help those who are anxious, the transparency of data and intuition to make sense of the incomprehensible, and the necessary context and adaptability to navigate the web on non-liners system that need to be transformed. When all around suggests we are in an era of catastrophic collapse, we are also on the precipice of the age of transformation and integration. All we need to do is face our fears and see with new eyes...... We have people in this country who live in homes costing millions of pounds. We have other people who can barely enough to survive There is plenty to go round It's about minimising those inequalities..instead we are hell bent on making them bigger." I agree Lionel. This isn’t socialism, it is seeing things through a lens of universal care and seeking to integrate our fragmented world. | |||
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"This is what happens when you vote in the nasty party over and over again. " It isn’t just confined to UK, it pervades the whole world to a greater or lesser extent. | |||
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"Let’s face it, we are living through an unprecedented historical moment. All humans and potentially all life on Earth is facing an existential crisis. Food poverty, and needing to apply for aid from UNICEF and food banks are just symptomatic of the material problems we have created, that are causing a planet-wide system crash. How can we feed 10 billion people, when ecosystems collapse to a point where they can only support 1 billion? We’ve not got to got long to work out how we can do this. Money and people can be thrown at the problems, however there are significant obstacles. Finding concrete solutions to our global collapse is impeded by walls, built from the building blocks of personal, social, political and economic limitations. The oligarchs and global capitalist elite have erected, maintained and promoted those walls to increase their own financial security, at the expense of hurtling us towards a future, that is clearly on a trajectory towards disastrous collapse. Nevertheless these walls can be torn down and there is a global community attempting to do so. Often that community is looked at with disdain by those who have been hoodwinked and sedated by the media in collusion with the power brokers, and those paralysed by the existential anxieties this brittle, anxiety inducing, non-linear, incomprehensible world produces. However, there is one set of blocks in the wall that we can control and they are our personal blocks. Those blocks are underpinned by our own existential anxiety, our own fear of death. Breaking through our own fears is the way to finding the personal freedom to act for the good of humanity. In that way we can discover the capacity and resilience to overcome the brittleness, the empathy and mindfulness to help those who are anxious, the transparency of data and intuition to make sense of the incomprehensible, and the necessary context and adaptability to navigate the web on non-liners system that need to be transformed. When all around suggests we are in an era of catastrophic collapse, we are also on the precipice of the age of transformation and integration. All we need to do is face our fears and see with new eyes...... We have people in this country who live in homes costing millions of pounds. We have other people who can barely enough to survive There is plenty to go round It's about minimising those inequalities..instead we are hell bent on making them bigger. I agree Lionel. This isn’t socialism, it is seeing things through a lens of universal care and seeking to integrate our fragmented world." I agree on a broader level,there is huge work to he done. But I think until we address the structures we have in our country, we cant begin to address this.And we are miles of that. | |||
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"Let’s face it, we are living through an unprecedented historical moment. All humans and potentially all life on Earth is facing an existential crisis. Food poverty, and needing to apply for aid from UNICEF and food banks are just symptomatic of the material problems we have created, that are causing a planet-wide system crash. How can we feed 10 billion people, when ecosystems collapse to a point where they can only support 1 billion? We’ve not got to got long to work out how we can do this. Money and people can be thrown at the problems, however there are significant obstacles. Finding concrete solutions to our global collapse is impeded by walls, built from the building blocks of personal, social, political and economic limitations. The oligarchs and global capitalist elite have erected, maintained and promoted those walls to increase their own financial security, at the expense of hurtling us towards a future, that is clearly on a trajectory towards disastrous collapse. Nevertheless these walls can be torn down and there is a global community attempting to do so. Often that community is looked at with disdain by those who have been hoodwinked and sedated by the media in collusion with the power brokers, and those paralysed by the existential anxieties this brittle, anxiety inducing, non-linear, incomprehensible world produces. However, there is one set of blocks in the wall that we can control and they are our personal blocks. Those blocks are underpinned by our own existential anxiety, our own fear of death. Breaking through our own fears is the way to finding the personal freedom to act for the good of humanity. In that way we can discover the capacity and resilience to overcome the brittleness, the empathy and mindfulness to help those who are anxious, the transparency of data and intuition to make sense of the incomprehensible, and the necessary context and adaptability to navigate the web on non-liners system that need to be transformed. When all around suggests we are in an era of catastrophic collapse, we are also on the precipice of the age of transformation and integration. All we need to do is face our fears and see with new eyes...... We have people in this country who live in homes costing millions of pounds. We have other people who can barely enough to survive There is plenty to go round It's about minimising those inequalities..instead we are hell bent on making them bigger. I agree Lionel. This isn’t socialism, it is seeing things through a lens of universal care and seeking to integrate our fragmented world. I agree on a broader level,there is huge work to he done. But I think until we address the structures we have in our country, we cant begin to address this.And we are miles of that. " I agree about thinking about global concerns by acting on those things we can influence locally. At the same time we have the power to convene in a way that is both amazing in how quickly we can create global movements - e.g., BLM, at the same time how destructive that platform power can be e.g., Trump.... We need to find more ways to use that power to transform and integrate, both at home and across the globe. | |||
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"This is what happens when you vote in the nasty party over and over again. It isn’t just confined to UK, it pervades the whole world to a greater or lesser extent. I think other countries (the scandi ones in particular)try to level off that inequality. We and America positively encourage it. And whilst selfishness is a very human trait, once again the notion of 'I'm alright Jack'is actively encouraged here." I think Scandinavia is doing better, because their predominant mindset is more oriented towards collective good, however they still experience some similarities. I agree that our way of thinking in the UK and US needs to evolve through the stage Scandinavia are at though. | |||
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"Let’s face it, we are living through an unprecedented historical moment. All humans and potentially all life on Earth is facing an existential crisis. Food poverty, and needing to apply for aid from UNICEF and food banks are just symptomatic of the material problems we have created, that are causing a planet-wide system crash. How can we feed 10 billion people, when ecosystems collapse to a point where they can only support 1 billion? We’ve not got to got long to work out how we can do this. Money and people can be thrown at the problems, however there are significant obstacles. Finding concrete solutions to our global collapse is impeded by walls, built from the building blocks of personal, social, political and economic limitations. The oligarchs and global capitalist elite have erected, maintained and promoted those walls to increase their own financial security, at the expense of hurtling us towards a future, that is clearly on a trajectory towards disastrous collapse. Nevertheless these walls can be torn down and there is a global community attempting to do so. Often that community is looked at with disdain by those who have been hoodwinked and sedated by the media in collusion with the power brokers, and those paralysed by the existential anxieties this brittle, anxiety inducing, non-linear, incomprehensible world produces. However, there is one set of blocks in the wall that we can control and they are our personal blocks. Those blocks are underpinned by our own existential anxiety, our own fear of death. Breaking through our own fears is the way to finding the personal freedom to act for the good of humanity. In that way we can discover the capacity and resilience to overcome the brittleness, the empathy and mindfulness to help those who are anxious, the transparency of data and intuition to make sense of the incomprehensible, and the necessary context and adaptability to navigate the web on non-liners system that need to be transformed. When all around suggests we are in an era of catastrophic collapse, we are also on the precipice of the age of transformation and integration. All we need to do is face our fears and see with new eyes...... We have people in this country who live in homes costing millions of pounds. We have other people who can barely enough to survive There is plenty to go round It's about minimising those inequalities..instead we are hell bent on making them bigger. I agree Lionel. This isn’t socialism, it is seeing things through a lens of universal care and seeking to integrate our fragmented world. I agree on a broader level,there is huge work to he done. But I think until we address the structures we have in our country, we cant begin to address this.And we are miles of that. I agree about thinking about global concerns by acting on those things we can influence locally. At the same time we have the power to convene in a way that is both amazing in how quickly we can create global movements - e.g., BLM, at the same time how destructive that platform power can be e.g., Trump.... We need to find more ways to use that power to transform and integrate, both at home and across the globe." True. I think Greta has proven that. However you also need the will to do it. There is a huge amount of apathy about. | |||
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"This is what happens when you vote in the nasty party over and over again. It isn’t just confined to UK, it pervades the whole world to a greater or lesser extent. I think other countries (the scandi ones in particular)try to level off that inequality. We and America positively encourage it. And whilst selfishness is a very human trait, once again the notion of 'I'm alright Jack'is actively encouraged here. I think Scandinavia is doing better, because their predominant mindset is more oriented towards collective good, however they still experience some similarities. I agree that our way of thinking in the UK and US needs to evolve through the stage Scandinavia are at though. " Their way of thinking is simply more progressive than ours. | |||
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"Let’s face it, we are living through an unprecedented historical moment. All humans and potentially all life on Earth is facing an existential crisis. Food poverty, and needing to apply for aid from UNICEF and food banks are just symptomatic of the material problems we have created, that are causing a planet-wide system crash. How can we feed 10 billion people, when ecosystems collapse to a point where they can only support 1 billion? We’ve not got to got long to work out how we can do this. Money and people can be thrown at the problems, however there are significant obstacles. Finding concrete solutions to our global collapse is impeded by walls, built from the building blocks of personal, social, political and economic limitations. The oligarchs and global capitalist elite have erected, maintained and promoted those walls to increase their own financial security, at the expense of hurtling us towards a future, that is clearly on a trajectory towards disastrous collapse. Nevertheless these walls can be torn down and there is a global community attempting to do so. Often that community is looked at with disdain by those who have been hoodwinked and sedated by the media in collusion with the power brokers, and those paralysed by the existential anxieties this brittle, anxiety inducing, non-linear, incomprehensible world produces. However, there is one set of blocks in the wall that we can control and they are our personal blocks. Those blocks are underpinned by our own existential anxiety, our own fear of death. Breaking through our own fears is the way to finding the personal freedom to act for the good of humanity. In that way we can discover the capacity and resilience to overcome the brittleness, the empathy and mindfulness to help those who are anxious, the transparency of data and intuition to make sense of the incomprehensible, and the necessary context and adaptability to navigate the web on non-liners system that need to be transformed. When all around suggests we are in an era of catastrophic collapse, we are also on the precipice of the age of transformation and integration. All we need to do is face our fears and see with new eyes...... We have people in this country who live in homes costing millions of pounds. We have other people who can barely enough to survive There is plenty to go round It's about minimising those inequalities..instead we are hell bent on making them bigger. I agree Lionel. This isn’t socialism, it is seeing things through a lens of universal care and seeking to integrate our fragmented world. I agree on a broader level,there is huge work to he done. But I think until we address the structures we have in our country, we cant begin to address this.And we are miles of that. I agree about thinking about global concerns by acting on those things we can influence locally. At the same time we have the power to convene in a way that is both amazing in how quickly we can create global movements - e.g., BLM, at the same time how destructive that platform power can be e.g., Trump.... We need to find more ways to use that power to transform and integrate, both at home and across the globe. True. I think Greta has proven that. However you also need the will to do it. There is a huge amount of apathy about." Yes apathy, powerlessness, self protection.....back to the existential anxieties, the lower level needs of Maslow if you like... | |||
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"Let’s face it, we are living through an unprecedented historical moment. All humans and potentially all life on Earth is facing an existential crisis. Food poverty, and needing to apply for aid from UNICEF and food banks are just symptomatic of the material problems we have created, that are causing a planet-wide system crash. How can we feed 10 billion people, when ecosystems collapse to a point where they can only support 1 billion? We’ve not got to got long to work out how we can do this. Money and people can be thrown at the problems, however there are significant obstacles. Finding concrete solutions to our global collapse is impeded by walls, built from the building blocks of personal, social, political and economic limitations. The oligarchs and global capitalist elite have erected, maintained and promoted those walls to increase their own financial security, at the expense of hurtling us towards a future, that is clearly on a trajectory towards disastrous collapse. Nevertheless these walls can be torn down and there is a global community attempting to do so. Often that community is looked at with disdain by those who have been hoodwinked and sedated by the media in collusion with the power brokers, and those paralysed by the existential anxieties this brittle, anxiety inducing, non-linear, incomprehensible world produces. However, there is one set of blocks in the wall that we can control and they are our personal blocks. Those blocks are underpinned by our own existential anxiety, our own fear of death. Breaking through our own fears is the way to finding the personal freedom to act for the good of humanity. In that way we can discover the capacity and resilience to overcome the brittleness, the empathy and mindfulness to help those who are anxious, the transparency of data and intuition to make sense of the incomprehensible, and the necessary context and adaptability to navigate the web on non-liners system that need to be transformed. When all around suggests we are in an era of catastrophic collapse, we are also on the precipice of the age of transformation and integration. All we need to do is face our fears and see with new eyes...... " All we need to do..? All..? That’s a breathtakingly enormous ask of people who have been on a personal journey for a long time, let alone those who are deeply unconscious. We..? As in every single person in a position of any privilege on the planet? And then what? I utterly agree with everything you’ve said...I just don’t see it happening in any reasonable time frame and without catastrophic global shit hitting the fan. And then those remaining will be so crippled with PTSD. I have PMT today. | |||
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"I have actually worked alongside unicef in two continents over the years with my job and can tell you that unicef have always provided charitable help in UK for children here.. not direct food I would add but lots of other ways.," Jacob Reece mogg has ripped into them today. | |||
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"Apparently this organisation are donating money to feed UK children for the first time ever. What's going on here? " A knock on effect from austerity also predicted by UNICEF. This was because then Chancellor, George Osbourne created an economic policy on the basis of a scientific study he readily referenced as his reasoning behind austerity measures - it also transpired that the works he referenced & based economic decisions on was both out of date & incorrect. In short, the results on an entirely egotistical series of measures bestowed upon us by a Tory government. That’s what happened. | |||
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"Apparently this organisation are donating money to feed UK children for the first time ever. What's going on here? A knock on effect from austerity also predicted by UNICEF. This was because then Chancellor, George Osbourne created an economic policy on the basis of a scientific study he readily referenced as his reasoning behind austerity measures - it also transpired that the works he referenced & based economic decisions on was both out of date & incorrect. In short, the results on an entirely egotistical series of measures bestowed upon us by a Tory government. That’s what happened." Austerity was ideological | |||
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"Apparently this organisation are donating money to feed UK children for the first time ever. What's going on here? A knock on effect from austerity also predicted by UNICEF. This was because then Chancellor, George Osbourne created an economic policy on the basis of a scientific study he readily referenced as his reasoning behind austerity measures - it also transpired that the works he referenced & based economic decisions on was both out of date & incorrect. In short, the results on an entirely egotistical series of measures bestowed upon us by a Tory government. That’s what happened. Austerity was ideological " Absolutely. Based off a thesis that was proven wrong. Amazingly, Osbourne continued to reference said works as a guide to his austerity riddled Britain. The whole thing was, is & always has been a choice over a necessity. | |||
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"Apparently this organisation are donating money to feed UK children for the first time ever. What's going on here? A knock on effect from austerity also predicted by UNICEF. This was because then Chancellor, George Osbourne created an economic policy on the basis of a scientific study he readily referenced as his reasoning behind austerity measures - it also transpired that the works he referenced & based economic decisions on was both out of date & incorrect. In short, the results on an entirely egotistical series of measures bestowed upon us by a Tory government. That’s what happened. Austerity was ideological Absolutely. Based off a thesis that was proven wrong. Amazingly, Osbourne continued to reference said works as a guide to his austerity riddled Britain. The whole thing was, is & always has been a choice over a necessity." Course it was/is Same thing is happening now. | |||
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"Jacob reese mogg has condemned UNICEF , always taking the popular stance " He should get his butler to help out | |||
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"Jacob reese mogg has condemned UNICEF , always taking the popular stance " Its difficult for a millionaire born into a life of luxury to empathasise with hungry people. | |||
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"I have actually worked alongside unicef in two continents over the years with my job and can tell you that unicef have always provided charitable help in UK for children here.. not direct food I would add but lots of other ways.," I made this point higher up the thread | |||
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"Jacob reese mogg has condemned UNICEF , always taking the popular stance " And he’s worth £100 million. Shame he doesn’t give some of his own wealth to help out. | |||
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"Jacob reese mogg has condemned UNICEF , always taking the popular stance " He supported the Government's stance on not paying for much needed holiday hunger free school meals replacements. He condemned Rashford for campaigning for holiday hunger for kids. He condemns UNICEF for feeding hungry kids. There's a theme here. All are political stunts to him. | |||
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"This has descended into a coven of idealistic trope.. Read back and listen to yourselves . Obs under labour it was compleo different.. " It's like a load of students meeting in a cafe in France . Man the barricades.. | |||
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"This has descended into a coven of idealistic trope.. Read back and listen to yourselves . Obs under labour it was compleo different.. " There does seem tonhave been a rise in the number of food banks since labour lost power - obs you could pretend this isn't isnt true and a conspiracy by the Guardian.....yawn  | |||
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"This has descended into a coven of idealistic trope.. Read back and listen to yourselves . Obs under labour it was compleo different.. It's like a load of students meeting in a cafe in France . Man the barricades.. " We're just having a chat, Tom | |||
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"This has descended into a coven of idealistic trope.. Read back and listen to yourselves . Obs under labour it was compleo different.. There does seem tonhave been a rise in the number of food banks since labour lost power - obs you could pretend this isn't isnt true and a conspiracy by the Guardian.....yawn "One lame govery for another | |||
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"This has descended into a coven of idealistic trope.. Read back and listen to yourselves . Obs under labour it was compleo different.. It's like a load of students meeting in a cafe in France . Man the barricades.. We're just having a chat, Tom "A private chat in a public forum? | |||
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"This has descended into a coven of idealistic trope.. Read back and listen to yourselves . Obs under labour it was compleo different.. It's like a load of students meeting in a cafe in France . Man the barricades.. We're just having a chat, Tom
A private chat in a public forum?"No, if it was private it'd be in messages. A group conversation you're welcome to participate in if you'd like. | |||
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"This has descended into a coven of idealistic trope.. Read back and listen to yourselves . Obs under labour it was compleo different.. It's like a load of students meeting in a cafe in France . Man the barricades.. We're just having a chat, Tom
A private chat in a public forum?
No, if it was private it'd be in messages. A group conversation you're welcome to participate in if you'd like."It sounds like a scene from a French bar in Les mis Do you hear the people sing? What are you doing about it apart from spouting on here . | |||
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"I have actually worked alongside unicef in two continents over the years with my job and can tell you that unicef have always provided charitable help in UK for children here.. not direct food I would add but lots of other ways., Jacob Reece mogg has ripped into them today." Yes multi millionaire Rees Mogg says how disgusting it is that an organisation helps feed hungry children. I bet that fucker has spent more on a single meal at times than the total amount that UNICEF is donating. How many billion has he handed out to his greedy mates from the covid purse over the last nine months? Rees Mogg has no moral right to say jack shit. In any equitable society he would be hung upside down by his ankles until all the money falls out of his trouser pockets, that alone would go a long way towards feeding the hungry. The man disgusts me, he is a vile excuse for a human being. | |||
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"This has descended into a coven of idealistic trope.. Read back and listen to yourselves . Obs under labour it was compleo different.. It's like a load of students meeting in a cafe in France . Man the barricades.. We're just having a chat, Tom
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No, if it was private it'd be in messages. A group conversation you're welcome to participate in if you'd like.
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Do you hear the people sing?
What are you doing about it apart from spouting on here .
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"This has descended into a coven of idealistic trope.. Read back and listen to yourselves . Obs under labour it was compleo different.. There does seem tonhave been a rise in the number of food banks since labour lost power - obs you could pretend this isn't isnt true and a conspiracy by the Guardian.....yawn
One lame govery for another"Go Tom.....show how good you are at debate by calling people names 
Still.....you are getting lots of attention arnt you | |||
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"This has descended into a coven of idealistic trope.. Read back and listen to yourselves . Obs under labour it was compleo different.. There does seem tonhave been a rise in the number of food banks since labour lost power - obs you could pretend this isn't isnt true and a conspiracy by the Guardian.....yawn
One lame govery for another
Go Tom.....show how good you are at debate by calling people names
Still.....you are getting lots of attention arnt you "Please expand on your comments... | |||
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"This has descended into a coven of idealistic trope.. Read back and listen to yourselves . Obs under labour it was compleo different.. There does seem tonhave been a rise in the number of food banks since labour lost power - obs you could pretend this isn't isnt true and a conspiracy by the Guardian.....yawn
One lame govery for another
Go Tom.....show how good you are at debate by calling people names
Still.....you are getting lots of attention arnt you "And that sometimes attracts those anyone would like the least attention from.. | |||
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"This has descended into a coven of idealistic trope.. Read back and listen to yourselves . Obs under labour it was compleo different.. There does seem tonhave been a rise in the number of food banks since labour lost power - obs you could pretend this isn't isnt true and a conspiracy by the Guardian.....yawn
One lame govery for another
Go Tom.....show how good you are at debate by calling people names
Still.....you are getting lots of attention arnt you
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"This has descended into a coven of idealistic trope.. Read back and listen to yourselves . Obs under labour it was compleo different.. There does seem tonhave been a rise in the number of food banks since labour lost power - obs you could pretend this isn't isnt true and a conspiracy by the Guardian.....yawn
One lame govery for another
Go Tom.....show how good you are at debate by calling people names
Still.....you are getting lots of attention arnt you
And that sometimes attracts those anyone would like the least attention from.."Its a pretty basic formula....say something contoversial.....follow it up with a few more unpleasent comments eg maybe parents should feed their kids etc.....and then criticise people who respond. It very simple attention seeking....and you have succeeded in that.....but make sure you get the last word in because thats very important isnt it | |||
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"This has descended into a coven of idealistic trope.. Read back and listen to yourselves . Obs under labour it was compleo different.. There does seem tonhave been a rise in the number of food banks since labour lost power - obs you could pretend this isn't isnt true and a conspiracy by the Guardian.....yawn
One lame govery for another
Go Tom.....show how good you are at debate by calling people names
Still.....you are getting lots of attention arnt you
And that sometimes attracts those anyone would like the least attention from..
Its a pretty basic formula....say something contoversial.....follow it up with a few more unpleasent comments eg maybe parents should feed their kids etc.....and then criticise people who respond.
It very simple attention seeking....and you have succeeded in that.....but make sure you get the last word in because thats very important isnt it "It serves as an excellent filter for some of us | |||
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"This has descended into a coven of idealistic trope.. Read back and listen to yourselves . Obs under labour it was compleo different.. There does seem tonhave been a rise in the number of food banks since labour lost power - obs you could pretend this isn't isnt true and a conspiracy by the Guardian.....yawn
One lame govery for another
Go Tom.....show how good you are at debate by calling people names
Still.....you are getting lots of attention arnt you
And that sometimes attracts those anyone would like the least attention from..
Its a pretty basic formula....say something contoversial.....follow it up with a few more unpleasent comments eg maybe parents should feed their kids etc.....and then criticise people who respond.
It very simple attention seeking....and you have succeeded in that.....but make sure you get the last word in because thats very important isnt it
It serves as an excellent filter for some of us "Youre right - its definately put me off men | |||
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"This has descended into a coven of idealistic trope.. Read back and listen to yourselves . Obs under labour it was compleo different.. There does seem tonhave been a rise in the number of food banks since labour lost power - obs you could pretend this isn't isnt true and a conspiracy by the Guardian.....yawn
One lame govery for another
Go Tom.....show how good you are at debate by calling people names
Still.....you are getting lots of attention arnt you
And that sometimes attracts those anyone would like the least attention from..
Its a pretty basic formula....say something contoversial.....follow it up with a few more unpleasent comments eg maybe parents should feed their kids etc.....and then criticise people who respond.
It very simple attention seeking....and you have succeeded in that.....but make sure you get the last word in because thats very important isnt it
It serves as an excellent filter for some of us "And the snowflake filter works well for me too.. | |||
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"This has descended into a coven of idealistic trope.. Read back and listen to yourselves . Obs under labour it was compleo different.. There does seem tonhave been a rise in the number of food banks since labour lost power - obs you could pretend this isn't isnt true and a conspiracy by the Guardian.....yawn
One lame govery for another
Go Tom.....show how good you are at debate by calling people names
Still.....you are getting lots of attention arnt you
And that sometimes attracts those anyone would like the least attention from..
Its a pretty basic formula....say something contoversial.....follow it up with a few more unpleasent comments eg maybe parents should feed their kids etc.....and then criticise people who respond.
It very simple attention seeking....and you have succeeded in that.....but make sure you get the last word in because thats very important isnt it "It's only controversial to the melts .. | |||
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"This has descended into a coven of idealistic trope.. Read back and listen to yourselves . Obs under labour it was compleo different.. There does seem tonhave been a rise in the number of food banks since labour lost power - obs you could pretend this isn't isnt true and a conspiracy by the Guardian.....yawn
One lame govery for another
Go Tom.....show how good you are at debate by calling people names
Still.....you are getting lots of attention arnt you
And that sometimes attracts those anyone would like the least attention from..
Its a pretty basic formula....say something contoversial.....follow it up with a few more unpleasent comments eg maybe parents should feed their kids etc.....and then criticise people who respond.
It very simple attention seeking....and you have succeeded in that.....but make sure you get the last word in because thats very important isnt it
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One lame govery for another
Go Tom.....show how good you are at debate by calling people names
Still.....you are getting lots of attention arnt you
And that sometimes attracts those anyone would like the least attention from..
Its a pretty basic formula....say something contoversial.....follow it up with a few more unpleasent comments eg maybe parents should feed their kids etc.....and then criticise people who respond.
It very simple attention seeking....and you have succeeded in that.....but make sure you get the last word in because thats very important isnt it
It serves as an excellent filter for some of us
And the snowflake filter works well for me too.. "It's hilarious that people think we'll find that offensive. | |||
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"This has descended into a coven of idealistic trope.. Read back and listen to yourselves . Obs under labour it was compleo different.. There does seem tonhave been a rise in the number of food banks since labour lost power - obs you could pretend this isn't isnt true and a conspiracy by the Guardian.....yawn
One lame govery for another
Go Tom.....show how good you are at debate by calling people names
Still.....you are getting lots of attention arnt you
And that sometimes attracts those anyone would like the least attention from..
Its a pretty basic formula....say something contoversial.....follow it up with a few more unpleasent comments eg maybe parents should feed their kids etc.....and then criticise people who respond.
It very simple attention seeking....and you have succeeded in that.....but make sure you get the last word in because thats very important isnt it
It's only controversial to the melts ..
Thats it...keep going....more name calling...show how clever you are....see it you can provoke a bit more.....well done "Name calling ? | |||
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"This has descended into a coven of idealistic trope.. Read back and listen to yourselves . Obs under labour it was compleo different.. There does seem tonhave been a rise in the number of food banks since labour lost power - obs you could pretend this isn't isnt true and a conspiracy by the Guardian.....yawn
One lame govery for another
Go Tom.....show how good you are at debate by calling people names
Still.....you are getting lots of attention arnt you
And that sometimes attracts those anyone would like the least attention from..
Its a pretty basic formula....say something contoversial.....follow it up with a few more unpleasent comments eg maybe parents should feed their kids etc.....and then criticise people who respond.
It very simple attention seeking....and you have succeeded in that.....but make sure you get the last word in because thats very important isnt it
It serves as an excellent filter for some of us
And the snowflake filter works well for me too..
It's hilarious that people think we'll find that offensive."We? The Royal we? Or the group think we? | |||
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"And under 3 terms of Bliar? No poverty.. And of course he shares his wealth.. " I've never defended Blair in any way. In fact i find him to be another disgusting waste of oxygen. As far as the bad things that politicians do, i hold almost all of them in condemnation. There are times when some of them are less evil than others, that is about the best i can say about all political parties in this country over than last 50 years. But toads like Rees Mogg bring a new level of vileness to the debate. A government that actually laughs about children being hungry and who only do anything when they are shamed into it - not that they feel or understand shame. They do nothing for reasons other than PR, and if this occasionally aligns with doing something decent, it is only by accident. Is Starmer as bad? No idea. Probably. There should be a special circle of hell reserved for politicians. | |||
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"This has descended into a coven of idealistic trope.. Read back and listen to yourselves . Obs under labour it was compleo different.. There does seem tonhave been a rise in the number of food banks since labour lost power - obs you could pretend this isn't isnt true and a conspiracy by the Guardian.....yawn
One lame govery for another
Go Tom.....show how good you are at debate by calling people names
Still.....you are getting lots of attention arnt you
And that sometimes attracts those anyone would like the least attention from..
Its a pretty basic formula....say something contoversial.....follow it up with a few more unpleasent comments eg maybe parents should feed their kids etc.....and then criticise people who respond.
It very simple attention seeking....and you have succeeded in that.....but make sure you get the last word in because thats very important isnt it
It serves as an excellent filter for some of us
And the snowflake filter works well for me too..
It's hilarious that people think we'll find that offensive.
We? The Royal we? Or the group think we? "The question will be tabled at the next Hive Mind meeting. | |||
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"This has descended into a coven of idealistic trope.. Read back and listen to yourselves . Obs under labour it was compleo different.. There does seem tonhave been a rise in the number of food banks since labour lost power - obs you could pretend this isn't isnt true and a conspiracy by the Guardian.....yawn
One lame govery for another
Go Tom.....show how good you are at debate by calling people names
Still.....you are getting lots of attention arnt you
And that sometimes attracts those anyone would like the least attention from..
Its a pretty basic formula....say something contoversial.....follow it up with a few more unpleasent comments eg maybe parents should feed their kids etc.....and then criticise people who respond.
It very simple attention seeking....and you have succeeded in that.....but make sure you get the last word in because thats very important isnt it
It serves as an excellent filter for some of us
And the snowflake filter works well for me too..
It's hilarious that people think we'll find that offensive.
We? The Royal we? Or the group think we?
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"Some people try too hard " They do Lionel.. And some seek to impose their ideas on others, offended by resistance, incredulous at differing ideas, anger at alternay views and you are not one of those.. | |||
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"Some people try too hard They do Lionel.. And some seek to impose their ideas on others, offended by resistance, incredulous at differing ideas, anger at alternay views and you are not one of those.. " I don't impose my ideas on anyone Be boring if we all agreed on everything | |||
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"Some people try too hard They do Lionel.. And some seek to impose their ideas on others, offended by resistance, incredulous at differing ideas, anger at alternay views and you are not one of those.. I don't impose my ideas on anyone Be boring if we all agreed on everything " Blimey Lionel.. we agree
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"This is what happens when you vote in the nasty party over and over again. It isn’t just confined to UK, it pervades the whole world to a greater or lesser extent. I think other countries (the scandi ones in particular)try to level off that inequality. We and America positively encourage it. And whilst selfishness is a very human trait, once again the notion of 'I'm alright Jack'is actively encouraged here. I think Scandinavia is doing better, because their predominant mindset is more oriented towards collective good, however they still experience some similarities. I agree that our way of thinking in the UK and US needs to evolve through the stage Scandinavia are at though. Their way of thinking is simply more progressive than ours." Agreed, they have evolved further as a culture, in their systems of governance, in their behaviour and in the mindsets of a lot of individuals. | |||
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"Let’s face it, we are living through an unprecedented historical moment. All humans and potentially all life on Earth is facing an existential crisis. Food poverty, and needing to apply for aid from UNICEF and food banks are just symptomatic of the material problems we have created, that are causing a planet-wide system crash. How can we feed 10 billion people, when ecosystems collapse to a point where they can only support 1 billion? We’ve not got to got long to work out how we can do this. Money and people can be thrown at the problems, however there are significant obstacles. Finding concrete solutions to our global collapse is impeded by walls, built from the building blocks of personal, social, political and economic limitations. The oligarchs and global capitalist elite have erected, maintained and promoted those walls to increase their own financial security, at the expense of hurtling us towards a future, that is clearly on a trajectory towards disastrous collapse. Nevertheless these walls can be torn down and there is a global community attempting to do so. Often that community is looked at with disdain by those who have been hoodwinked and sedated by the media in collusion with the power brokers, and those paralysed by the existential anxieties this brittle, anxiety inducing, non-linear, incomprehensible world produces. However, there is one set of blocks in the wall that we can control and they are our personal blocks. Those blocks are underpinned by our own existential anxiety, our own fear of death. Breaking through our own fears is the way to finding the personal freedom to act for the good of humanity. In that way we can discover the capacity and resilience to overcome the brittleness, the empathy and mindfulness to help those who are anxious, the transparency of data and intuition to make sense of the incomprehensible, and the necessary context and adaptability to navigate the web on non-liners system that need to be transformed. When all around suggests we are in an era of catastrophic collapse, we are also on the precipice of the age of transformation and integration. All we need to do is face our fears and see with new eyes...... All we need to do..? All..? That’s a breathtakingly enormous ask of people who have been on a personal journey for a long time, let alone those who are deeply unconscious. We..? As in every single person in a position of any privilege on the planet? And then what? I utterly agree with everything you’ve said...I just don’t see it happening in any reasonable time frame and without catastrophic global shit hitting the fan. And then those remaining will be so crippled with PTSD. I have PMT today. " Yes it was a bit glib. However looking for answers outside of ourselves at the moment is futile if we don’t look within. The problems we face are a mirror of our collective consciousness. The transformations needed will happen one person at a time, so we can all do our part by looking in the mirror. | |||
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"Let’s face it, we are living through an unprecedented historical moment. All humans and potentially all life on Earth is facing an existential crisis. Food poverty, and needing to apply for aid from UNICEF and food banks are just symptomatic of the material problems we have created, that are causing a planet-wide system crash. How can we feed 10 billion people, when ecosystems collapse to a point where they can only support 1 billion? We’ve not got to got long to work out how we can do this. Money and people can be thrown at the problems, however there are significant obstacles. Finding concrete solutions to our global collapse is impeded by walls, built from the building blocks of personal, social, political and economic limitations. The oligarchs and global capitalist elite have erected, maintained and promoted those walls to increase their own financial security, at the expense of hurtling us towards a future, that is clearly on a trajectory towards disastrous collapse. Nevertheless these walls can be torn down and there is a global community attempting to do so. Often that community is looked at with disdain by those who have been hoodwinked and sedated by the media in collusion with the power brokers, and those paralysed by the existential anxieties this brittle, anxiety inducing, non-linear, incomprehensible world produces. However, there is one set of blocks in the wall that we can control and they are our personal blocks. Those blocks are underpinned by our own existential anxiety, our own fear of death. Breaking through our own fears is the way to finding the personal freedom to act for the good of humanity. In that way we can discover the capacity and resilience to overcome the brittleness, the empathy and mindfulness to help those who are anxious, the transparency of data and intuition to make sense of the incomprehensible, and the necessary context and adaptability to navigate the web on non-liners system that need to be transformed. When all around suggests we are in an era of catastrophic collapse, we are also on the precipice of the age of transformation and integration. All we need to do is face our fears and see with new eyes...... All we need to do..? All..? That’s a breathtakingly enormous ask of people who have been on a personal journey for a long time, let alone those who are deeply unconscious. We..? As in every single person in a position of any privilege on the planet? And then what? I utterly agree with everything you’ve said...I just don’t see it happening in any reasonable time frame and without catastrophic global shit hitting the fan. And then those remaining will be so crippled with PTSD. I have PMT today. Yes it was a bit glib. However looking for answers outside of ourselves at the moment is futile if we don’t look within. The problems we face are a mirror of our collective consciousness. The transformations needed will happen one person at a time, so we can all do our part by looking in the mirror." Most people just shave.. | |||
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"Let’s face it, we are living through an unprecedented historical moment. All humans and potentially all life on Earth is facing an existential crisis. Food poverty, and needing to apply for aid from UNICEF and food banks are just symptomatic of the material problems we have created, that are causing a planet-wide system crash. How can we feed 10 billion people, when ecosystems collapse to a point where they can only support 1 billion? We’ve not got to got long to work out how we can do this. Money and people can be thrown at the problems, however there are significant obstacles. Finding concrete solutions to our global collapse is impeded by walls, built from the building blocks of personal, social, political and economic limitations. The oligarchs and global capitalist elite have erected, maintained and promoted those walls to increase their own financial security, at the expense of hurtling us towards a future, that is clearly on a trajectory towards disastrous collapse. Nevertheless these walls can be torn down and there is a global community attempting to do so. Often that community is looked at with disdain by those who have been hoodwinked and sedated by the media in collusion with the power brokers, and those paralysed by the existential anxieties this brittle, anxiety inducing, non-linear, incomprehensible world produces. However, there is one set of blocks in the wall that we can control and they are our personal blocks. Those blocks are underpinned by our own existential anxiety, our own fear of death. Breaking through our own fears is the way to finding the personal freedom to act for the good of humanity. In that way we can discover the capacity and resilience to overcome the brittleness, the empathy and mindfulness to help those who are anxious, the transparency of data and intuition to make sense of the incomprehensible, and the necessary context and adaptability to navigate the web on non-liners system that need to be transformed. When all around suggests we are in an era of catastrophic collapse, we are also on the precipice of the age of transformation and integration. All we need to do is face our fears and see with new eyes...... All we need to do..? All..? That’s a breathtakingly enormous ask of people who have been on a personal journey for a long time, let alone those who are deeply unconscious. We..? As in every single person in a position of any privilege on the planet? And then what? I utterly agree with everything you’ve said...I just don’t see it happening in any reasonable time frame and without catastrophic global shit hitting the fan. And then those remaining will be so crippled with PTSD. I have PMT today. Yes it was a bit glib. However looking for answers outside of ourselves at the moment is futile if we don’t look within. The problems we face are a mirror of our collective consciousness. The transformations needed will happen one person at a time, so we can all do our part by looking in the mirror. Most people just shave.. " Razor sharp wit as ever Tom | |||
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"Let’s face it, we are living through an unprecedented historical moment. All humans and potentially all life on Earth is facing an existential crisis. Food poverty, and needing to apply for aid from UNICEF and food banks are just symptomatic of the material problems we have created, that are causing a planet-wide system crash. How can we feed 10 billion people, when ecosystems collapse to a point where they can only support 1 billion? We’ve not got to got long to work out how we can do this. Money and people can be thrown at the problems, however there are significant obstacles. Finding concrete solutions to our global collapse is impeded by walls, built from the building blocks of personal, social, political and economic limitations. The oligarchs and global capitalist elite have erected, maintained and promoted those walls to increase their own financial security, at the expense of hurtling us towards a future, that is clearly on a trajectory towards disastrous collapse. Nevertheless these walls can be torn down and there is a global community attempting to do so. Often that community is looked at with disdain by those who have been hoodwinked and sedated by the media in collusion with the power brokers, and those paralysed by the existential anxieties this brittle, anxiety inducing, non-linear, incomprehensible world produces. However, there is one set of blocks in the wall that we can control and they are our personal blocks. Those blocks are underpinned by our own existential anxiety, our own fear of death. Breaking through our own fears is the way to finding the personal freedom to act for the good of humanity. In that way we can discover the capacity and resilience to overcome the brittleness, the empathy and mindfulness to help those who are anxious, the transparency of data and intuition to make sense of the incomprehensible, and the necessary context and adaptability to navigate the web on non-liners system that need to be transformed. When all around suggests we are in an era of catastrophic collapse, we are also on the precipice of the age of transformation and integration. All we need to do is face our fears and see with new eyes...... All we need to do..? All..? That’s a breathtakingly enormous ask of people who have been on a personal journey for a long time, let alone those who are deeply unconscious. We..? As in every single person in a position of any privilege on the planet? And then what? I utterly agree with everything you’ve said...I just don’t see it happening in any reasonable time frame and without catastrophic global shit hitting the fan. And then those remaining will be so crippled with PTSD. I have PMT today. Yes it was a bit glib. However looking for answers outside of ourselves at the moment is futile if we don’t look within. The problems we face are a mirror of our collective consciousness. The transformations needed will happen one person at a time, so we can all do our part by looking in the mirror. Most people just shave.. Razor sharp wit as ever Tom "Thank you...you are a lovely audience.. bows ...exit stage left .. | |||
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