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A Moral Dilemma

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

So I live in a downstairs terraced flat with a mid 20s woman living above my flat.

(She moved in there in January with her 2 kids)

All through Covid she's never followed lockdown rules, she's had people and family coming and going, parties on a weekend and a houseful etc.

Before anyone mentions rule of 6, indoors you still meant to be 2 meters apart. Trust me, with the size of these flats and the amount of people inside, that's not possible.

I've always let it go, thinking she carries her own risk and if she gets Covid, then so be it.

However, I was putting some rubbish out this morning and we chatted for a little bit. (Mainly me telling her to keep the noise down on the night time please)

During the conversation she asked if I work, I explained I'm on the sick.

What do you do? I asked.

She's a fukn careworker in a carehome

We are Tier 3, yet she's still having people over, a houseful on a weekend (and it ain't a support bubble, trust me, and a different fella every weekend)

What do I do?

If she gets Covid so be it, but I cant stop thinking about the risk she poses to those in the carehome because of her behaviour if she's asymptomatic etc

What do I do?

(I won't reply to comments as they appear, I'll pop back on the thread later to see what the general consensus is)

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By *he AmbassadorMan
over a year ago

IRLANDA. / Prague. / Cil Dara

She is we as we call it over hdre

A Grade A ArseHole.

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By *hilledGuerillaMan
over a year ago

In the monkey house

It’s seems pretty simple to me. Report to whoever it is that’s taking reports of Covid breaches. If it was me and I knew which carehome she worked at I’d drop on anonymous phone call there.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

I don't know what advice to give you but I'm a care assistant and health worker do nothing or just say to her how you feel x

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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago

South Wales

Not sure there is much you can do now to be honest. She will deny it and it will cause bad feeling.

As a Careworker she will be one of the ones to get offered the vaccine sooner than most though.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"It’s seems pretty simple to me. Report to whoever it is that’s taking reports of Covid breaches. If it was me and I knew which carehome she worked at I’d drop on anonymous phone call there. "

I find that sly you going to do something

Own it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She manages to fit an awful lot into her life

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Not sure there is much you can do now to be honest. She will deny it and it will cause bad feeling.

As a Careworker she will be one of the ones to get offered the vaccine sooner than most though.

"

This xx

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

Nobody likes grass! (Partly down to not having the balls to do it themselves)

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Nobody likes grass! (Partly down to not having the balls to do it themselves)"

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

Cindi you know what to do x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am tempted to say report her, it's so irresponsible working in that environment, but you can't control what people do

However if her work is anything like mine and I should imagine their environment is 'covid secure' with procedures galore. The risk is minimised. Isolation with sick pay wouldn't be my choice.

Procedure is everything, my Daughter in Laws Mum works with vulnerable adults, one of her colleagues let someone in without checking their temp or asking about symptoms.....She had covid and the whole place had to isolate

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Not sure there is much you can do now to be honest. She will deny it and it will cause bad feeling.

As a Careworker she will be one of the ones to get offered the vaccine sooner than most though.

"

Thanks for replies all.

I'm thinking this is the approach I'll take.

Hopefully she will get vaccine soon and the current work place precautions will work.

I'm not one to snitch, but once she told me her job I was fuming

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As someone who’s father is a resident in a care home if I knew one of his workers was behaving like this I’d be devastated as he is incredibly vulnerable baring in mind it’ll be February since I’ve been able to visit him so coming up a year. I’d be fuming that being said each to their own does come to mind. She has her own agency to make her own choices and risk but if she’s not following her works strict procedures she could be held accountable for gross misconduct.

Maybe you can bring it up into conversation ever so politely and diplomatically next time you “bump into eachother” drop it casually like “oh so what do you think or feel about covid and the rules” get her perspective it may well be she’s already had it so she’s only worried about herself and not seeing the bigger picture unfortunately people do that. Getting her a fine or loosing her job when times are already tough probably not the most sensitive approach and probably won’t change her views. Maybe she hasn’t even thought about the bigger picture.

You could always pop an anon letter under her door saying you’re concerned over the amount of visits etc especially if you have communal hallways with people coming in and out.

Hope this helps.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have a word with her and ask to be more reasonable. It’s a hard job I can assure you as I know lots people doing that job . Underpaid, understaff and no caring management.

Also we get tested in the nhs/care system every week. The test get results within 3 days.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"As someone who’s father is a resident in a care home if I knew one of his workers was behaving like this I’d be devastated as he is incredibly vulnerable baring in mind it’ll be February since I’ve been able to visit him so coming up a year. I’d be fuming that being said each to their own does come to mind. She has her own agency to make her own choices and risk but if she’s not following her works strict procedures she could be held accountable for gross misconduct.

Maybe you can bring it up into conversation ever so politely and diplomatically next time you “bump into eachother” drop it casually like “oh so what do you think or feel about covid and the rules” get her perspective it may well be she’s already had it so she’s only worried about herself and not seeing the bigger picture unfortunately people do that. Getting her a fine or loosing her job when times are already tough probably not the most sensitive approach and probably won’t change her views. Maybe she hasn’t even thought about the bigger picture.

You could always pop an anon letter under her door saying you’re concerned over the amount of visits etc especially if you have communal hallways with people coming in and out.

Hope this helps.

"

That's very helpful and gives me more to think about.

We don't have communal doorways, it's a terraced street where all houses have been turned into flats. South Shields is full of flats for some reason

Maybes she's had Covid, I never thought of that, but still no excuse.

I don't want to cost her the job, she's got 2 young kids to feed and is a single mother, but my conscience bothers me about the risk to others.

I'll think about an annon letter, that may do something. And from her viewpoint it could be from any neighbour who sees everyone coming and going

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As someone who’s father is a resident in a care home if I knew one of his workers was behaving like this I’d be devastated as he is incredibly vulnerable baring in mind it’ll be February since I’ve been able to visit him so coming up a year. I’d be fuming that being said each to their own does come to mind. She has her own agency to make her own choices and risk but if she’s not following her works strict procedures she could be held accountable for gross misconduct.

Maybe you can bring it up into conversation ever so politely and diplomatically next time you “bump into eachother” drop it casually like “oh so what do you think or feel about covid and the rules” get her perspective it may well be she’s already had it so she’s only worried about herself and not seeing the bigger picture unfortunately people do that. Getting her a fine or loosing her job when times are already tough probably not the most sensitive approach and probably won’t change her views. Maybe she hasn’t even thought about the bigger picture.

You could always pop an anon letter under her door saying you’re concerned over the amount of visits etc especially if you have communal hallways with people coming in and out.

Hope this helps.

That's very helpful and gives me more to think about.

We don't have communal doorways, it's a terraced street where all houses have been turned into flats. South Shields is full of flats for some reason

Maybes she's had Covid, I never thought of that, but still no excuse.

I don't want to cost her the job, she's got 2 young kids to feed and is a single mother, but my conscience bothers me about the risk to others.

I'll think about an annon letter, that may do something. And from her viewpoint it could be from any neighbour who sees everyone coming and going "

Exactly.

I’m in tier 1 down here and a student and so mix with others in college a lot but we wear masks in communal areas and when I come home I shower and change my clothes and wash hands as we have vulnerable family as well as dad even though I’ve not seen him.

It’s honestly heartbreaking she should be thinking of the families of those she supports. I’d love to see my dad. I’ve had two video calls in 11 months x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

It’s honestly heartbreaking she should be thinking of the families of those she supports. I’d love to see my dad. I’ve had two video calls in 11 months x "

So sorry for you and your Dad.

Sending

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Have a word with her and ask to be more reasonable. It’s a hard job I can assure you as I know lots people doing that job . Underpaid, understaff and no caring management.

Also we get tested in the nhs/care system every week. The test get results within 3 days. "

By saying "we get tested" I assume you are in the industry.

Thanks for your work, you are heros

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Have a word with her and ask to be more reasonable. It’s a hard job I can assure you as I know lots people doing that job . Underpaid, understaff and no caring management.

Also we get tested in the nhs/care system every week. The test get results within 3 days.

By saying "we get tested" I assume you are in the industry.

Thanks for your work, you are heros "

In a specific branch yes. And thank you

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