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"I think the whole mystery about who he is and his thing of having art mysteriously appear overnight is just gimmick. If you forget about that and just treat him as any other artist I really don't see what all the fuss is about. Luke " I agree, modern art is just PR and critic BS. This is superbly shown for all it's shallowness and pomposity in Tony Hancock's movie The Rebel | |||
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"Depends which way you look at it. If he decided to rock up and spray something on my house I would be chuffed to be bits. If it was some Banksy inspired wannabe spraying the word some badly spelled swear words on my house not so much. I think their is a distinct difference between art and normal vandalism. " Really! So, if you'd never heard of Banksy and you'd woken up to find he'd spray painted the side of your house you'd still be overjoyed? | |||
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"Depends which way you look at it. If he decided to rock up and spray something on my house I would be chuffed to be bits. If it was some Banksy inspired wannabe spraying the word some badly spelled swear words on my house not so much. I think their is a distinct difference between art and normal vandalism. Really! So, if you'd never heard of Banksy and you'd woken up to find he'd spray painted the side of your house you'd still be overjoyed?" I would! But the I'd be chuffed if someone sprayed a spunking cock on the wall...its all fun innit, lives up the street Lu | |||
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"Depends which way you look at it. If he decided to rock up and spray something on my house I would be chuffed to be bits. If it was some Banksy inspired wannabe spraying the word some badly spelled swear words on my house not so much. I think their is a distinct difference between art and normal vandalism. Really! So, if you'd never heard of Banksy and you'd woken up to find he'd spray painted the side of your house you'd still be overjoyed?" I have heard of Banksy though. | |||
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"In the unlikely event that Banksy daubed our house I'd be very happy. I'd be furious if it was anyone else. I'm very well aware that it's the monetary value of a "Banksy" that's behind my thinking." This! | |||
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"Depends which way you look at it. If he decided to rock up and spray something on my house I would be chuffed to be bits. If it was some Banksy inspired wannabe spraying the word some badly spelled swear words on my house not so much. I think their is a distinct difference between art and normal vandalism. Really! So, if you'd never heard of Banksy and you'd woken up to find he'd spray painted the side of your house you'd still be overjoyed? I have heard of Banksy though. " So a "talented" literate nobody spray painted the side of your house you'd be happy? | |||
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"In the eyes of the law a vandal, hence why no one knows who he is. In my eyes a genius, personally I like his work, I have seen many pieces over the years, they put a smile on my face. Which is what good art is meant to do... it’s meant to make you fee, move you in some way, trigger something inside, arouse the curiosity. One of my favourite prices was a wheel clamp of a chariot statue in London, forget the exact location but spotted it as I was driving through He raises issues in a subtle way I loved the picture that self shredded at auction, why should people make money off his work " | |||
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"Depends which way you look at it. If he decided to rock up and spray something on my house I would be chuffed to be bits. If it was some Banksy inspired wannabe spraying the word some badly spelled swear words on my house not so much. I think their is a distinct difference between art and normal vandalism. Really! So, if you'd never heard of Banksy and you'd woken up to find he'd spray painted the side of your house you'd still be overjoyed? I have heard of Banksy though. So a "talented" literate nobody spray painted the side of your house you'd be happy?" If Banksy did yes. Sell it and see you later. | |||
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"Still think his save against Pele was incredible... " I had that picture hung on my bedroom wall as a kid | |||
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"Depends which way you look at it. If he decided to rock up and spray something on my house I would be chuffed to be bits. If it was some Banksy inspired wannabe spraying the word some badly spelled swear words on my house not so much. I think their is a distinct difference between art and normal vandalism. Really! So, if you'd never heard of Banksy and you'd woken up to find he'd spray painted the side of your house you'd still be overjoyed? I have heard of Banksy though. " I've heard of japanese knot , but I would want that on the side if my house | |||
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"If I did it, it would be vandalism, why is he different " Because of art critics and dealers, who Tom Keating described as east end boys in west end suits! | |||
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"Definitely a vandal." So if you woke up to find Banksy had put a piece of his work on the side of your house overnight, you'd grab the emulsion and paint it over? Somehow I doubt it | |||
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"Not everyone sells out for money.. I would grab him by the scruff of his neck and make him paint over it " Of course you would | |||
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"If I did it, it would be vandalism, why is he different " Art is subjective... Lu | |||
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"Street Art We should encourage it and have designated areas for it I find it fascinating" I find it incredibly ugly | |||
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"Street Art We should encourage it and have designated areas for it I find it fascinating I find it incredibly ugly" There are designated areas for it in some cities Arists get to exhibit their work for a given period and after that period, the wall is given a base coat and another artist can exhibit in that space It cuts down on random daubings and those that do appreciate it have an ever changing gallery to view | |||
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"Street Art We should encourage it and have designated areas for it I find it fascinating" I agree Art is subjective... If you don't like it, doesn't mean it's shit. The fact he has millions of fans and supporters shows you that! Might bit be some elaborate oil painting but it's still art and deserves to be seen and appreciated by those who enjoy it. Lu | |||
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"It should not have designated areas. That takes away ownership and statement. A simpler way of saying designated area is ........ controlled. Controlled leads to dictat of what can and cannot be seen..... No. No Control on artists. " Agreed Granny | |||
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"It should not have designated areas. That takes away ownership and statement. A simpler way of saying designated area is ........ controlled. Controlled leads to dictat of what can and cannot be seen..... No. No Control on artists. " Fair point Granny The designated zones do 'cut down' but don't eliminate | |||
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"It should not have designated areas. That takes away ownership and statement. A simpler way of saying designated area is ........ controlled. Controlled leads to dictat of what can and cannot be seen..... No. No Control on artists. " I'm comming to paint a big penis on the front of your house tonight granny | |||
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"It should not have designated areas. That takes away ownership and statement. A simpler way of saying designated area is ........ controlled. Controlled leads to dictat of what can and cannot be seen..... No. No Control on artists. " So we need graffiti artists .. Solves the problem.. | |||
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"We'd be lost without art and I love Banksys work but let's face it..... Art is a racket ...a posh racket but nevertheless a racket. In my opinion disclaimer etc " The amount of "suspected" forgeries in galleries and museums throughout the world is apparently huge and the do called experts know so too, a complete racket. | |||
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"We'd be lost without art and I love Banksys work but let's face it..... Art is a racket ...a posh racket but nevertheless a racket. In my opinion disclaimer etc The amount of "suspected" forgeries in galleries and museums throughout the world is apparently huge and the do called experts know so too, a complete racket." | |||
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"Art imo. He's awesome! The woman who owns the house he most recently "vandalized" has just decided to pull out of her 300 grand house sale...she's obviously not too upset Lu " I've just seen the article it's saying that the property is now worth between 3 to 5 million | |||
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"Art imo. He's awesome! The woman who owns the house he most recently "vandalized" has just decided to pull out of her 300 grand house sale...she's obviously not too upset Lu I've just seen the article it's saying that the property is now worth between 3 to 5 million " It's what some oaf is prepared to pay.. | |||
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"Art imo. He's awesome! The woman who owns the house he most recently "vandalized" has just decided to pull out of her 300 grand house sale...she's obviously not too upset Lu I've just seen the article it's saying that the property is now worth between 3 to 5 million It's what some oaf is prepared to pay.. " I'd paint over it just to piss the arty fuckers off, magnolia | |||
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"I can't see why it would incease the price of her property 10 fold but people would pay it. And much as I enjoy his topical artistry its still unlawful graffiti and vandalism albeit from a recognised and talented artist. I have to admit I do enjoy his style. Almost like a special forces artist. Sneak in, do the job, leave your mark and get out. And no one knows who you are!" Most of it looks stencilled to me.. lazy art | |||
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"I can't see why it would incease the price of her property 10 fold but people would pay it. And much as I enjoy his topical artistry its still unlawful graffiti and vandalism albeit from a recognised and talented artist. I have to admit I do enjoy his style. Almost like a special forces artist. Sneak in, do the job, leave your mark and get out. And no one knows who you are! Most of it looks stencilled to me.. lazy art " Lazy vandal | |||
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"I can't see why it would incease the price of her property 10 fold but people would pay it. And much as I enjoy his topical artistry its still unlawful graffiti and vandalism albeit from a recognised and talented artist. I have to admit I do enjoy his style. Almost like a special forces artist. Sneak in, do the job, leave your mark and get out. And no one knows who you are! Most of it looks stencilled to me.. lazy art " I'm inclined to think so too. It would take far too long otherwise. Still, he has to design and produce that stencil and come up with the idea in the first place. I do admire his stealth like technique | |||
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"It should not have designated areas. That takes away ownership and statement. A simpler way of saying designated area is ........ controlled. Controlled leads to dictat of what can and cannot be seen..... No. No Control on artists. I'm comming to paint a big penis on the front of your house tonight granny " I want to say "self portrait" but I fear it may be misinterpreted. Ah, Got it Has, not is. E | |||
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"It should not have designated areas. That takes away ownership and statement. A simpler way of saying designated area is ........ controlled. Controlled leads to dictat of what can and cannot be seen..... No. No Control on artists. I'm comming to paint a big penis on the front of your house tonight granny " Ya gotta love a self portrait Dash. x | |||
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"It should not have designated areas. That takes away ownership and statement. A simpler way of saying designated area is ........ controlled. Controlled leads to dictat of what can and cannot be seen..... No. No Control on artists. I'm comming to paint a big penis on the front of your house tonight granny Ya gotta love a self portrait Dash. x" I'm going to have a drink now to wash my foot down | |||
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"Personally I don’t get all the hype about Banksy. I don’t think his stuff is that good and he claims to be a rebel and antiestablishment. In reality though it’s all PR and the dude is making a fortune and no doubt living the life his ‘art’ suggests he despises. If he vandalised my property I’d want to remove it but in reality I would sell it for sure" | |||
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"In the eyes of the law a vandal, hence why no one knows who he is. In my eyes a genius, personally I like his work, I have seen many pieces over the years, they put a smile on my face. Which is what good art is meant to do... it’s meant to make you fee, move you in some way, trigger something inside, arouse the curiosity. One of my favourite prices was a wheel clamp of a chariot statue in London, forget the exact location but spotted it as I was driving through He raises issues in a subtle way I loved the picture that self shredded at auction, why should people make money off his work " As one of the functions of art is to make us think, why shouldn't someone make money from his art? I'm guessing that he does. | |||
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"I think he uses stencils " He obviously does | |||
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"Art or vandalism (if the property isn't his) ? What are everyone's thoughts ? " Both I would say but then the peoples walls with it on are not complaining as they can sell it. | |||
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"It's hardly work I m o" Define work then tom .......... | |||
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"It's hardly work I m o Define work then tom .........." I'd say its sneaking up on someone's house unbeknownst to them and defacing their wall... Yes? | |||
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"His name is Robin Gunningham and he’s from Bristol. Now we know who he is maybe he’ll get a caution for criminal damage...or more realistically, he has permission to paint at the locations these days?" Oh just lol is that Banksy? So I was right - he's a middle aged white dude | |||
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"His name is Robin Gunningham and he’s from Bristol. Now we know who he is maybe he’ll get a caution for criminal damage...or more realistically, he has permission to paint at the locations these days? Oh just lol is that Banksy? So I was right - he's a middle aged white dude " What’s wrong with being white and middle class? | |||
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"It gets you thinking and it gets you talking about it. Fairly much sums up modern art. " Sheep in formaldehyde sums up modern art..... Shite | |||
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"His name is Robin Gunningham and he’s from Bristol. Now we know who he is maybe he’ll get a caution for criminal damage...or more realistically, he has permission to paint at the locations these days? Oh just lol is that Banksy? So I was right - he's a middle aged white dude What’s wrong with being white and middle class? " They were my target audience for stencils on canvas. | |||
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"His name is Robin Gunningham and he’s from Bristol. Now we know who he is maybe he’ll get a caution for criminal damage...or more realistically, he has permission to paint at the locations these days? Oh just lol is that Banksy? So I was right - he's a middle aged white dude What’s wrong with being white and middle class? " White middle class lives matter | |||
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"His name is Robin Gunningham and he’s from Bristol. Now we know who he is maybe he’ll get a caution for criminal damage...or more realistically, he has permission to paint at the locations these days? Oh just lol is that Banksy? So I was right - he's a middle aged white dude What’s wrong with being white and middle class? " Nothing. If you don't get the irony then its a pointless conversation. | |||
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"His name is Robin Gunningham and he’s from Bristol. Now we know who he is maybe he’ll get a caution for criminal damage...or more realistically, he has permission to paint at the locations these days? Oh just lol is that Banksy? So I was right - he's a middle aged white dude What’s wrong with being white and middle class? White middle class lives matter " They always have, no news there | |||
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"It gets you thinking and it gets you talking about it. Fairly much sums up modern art. Sheep in formaldehyde sums up modern art..... Shite" Shite to some or a million pound mastpeice to others. An unmade bed ? Whats that all about. It gets you talking and creates reactions. | |||
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"His name is Robin Gunningham and he’s from Bristol. Now we know who he is maybe he’ll get a caution for criminal damage...or more realistically, he has permission to paint at the locations these days? Oh just lol is that Banksy? So I was right - he's a middle aged white dude What’s wrong with being white and middle class? Nothing. If you don't get the irony then its a pointless conversation." Is it irony though? | |||
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"It's hardly work I m o Define work then tom .......... I'd say its sneaking up on someone's house unbeknownst to them and defacing their wall... Yes? " Well ...... acksherlly it's known to them but its still work innit | |||
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"It gets you thinking and it gets you talking about it. Fairly much sums up modern art. Sheep in formaldehyde sums up modern art..... Shite Shite to some or a million pound mastpeice to others. An unmade bed ? Whats that all about. It gets you talking and creates reactions." Pile of bricks is a pile of bricks,pay a million for them and that's when it's art, too much money and no sense | |||
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"There's loads more better artists than Banksey that use free hand and not stencils..these guys/girls have far more talent...to grab a can of spray paint or 2 cans and just start a picture from the mind to produce mind blowing art..that's some thing special...check out all this Artwork online...from train carriages in America to muriels of celebrated people. Goldie used to be a graffiti artist before he was a musician...amazing in both!! " Muriels........ | |||
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"It gets you thinking and it gets you talking about it. Fairly much sums up modern art. Sheep in formaldehyde sums up modern art..... Shite" No it was definitely a sheep | |||
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"It's hardly work I m o Define work then tom .......... I'd say its sneaking up on someone's house unbeknownst to them and defacing their wall... Yes? Well ...... acksherlly it's known to them but its still work innit " They know? He didn't tell me when he stencilled 'dash you cunt' on my wall... How rude | |||
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"Not irony. Most stencilers I know are white and middle class. " I don't know enough about Banksy or his work. For me it's just another example of 'art' appealing to a load of white middle aged people that have spare money to spend on stencils. | |||
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"Define art." It provokes and challenges. Good thread. | |||
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"Define art." It’s the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power. | |||
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"Define art. It provokes and challenges. Good thread. " Rubbish, so the definition of art is it provokes conversation on a swingers forum | |||
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"Stencils? So he cheats then " Yeah, he's a cheating white trash multi millionaire vandal | |||
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"Stencils? So he cheats then " A lot of work goes into making the stencil. | |||
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"Define art. It provokes and challenges. Good thread. Rubbish, so the definition of art is it provokes conversation on a swingers forum " You know of any creative concept that has a singular definition? That's simply one. A pertinent one for here and now. | |||
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"How do you know he uses stencils ? How do you know it's a he ?" He does and he is. | |||
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"Define art. It provokes and challenges. Good thread. Rubbish, so the definition of art is it provokes conversation on a swingers forum " Oh dear, try thinking before you type Dash | |||
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"Stencils? So he cheats then A lot of work goes into making the stencil. " I'll have a look into that I'd never considered it was anything other than free hand. | |||
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"Define art. It provokes and challenges. Good thread. Rubbish, so the definition of art is it provokes conversation on a swingers forum Oh dear, try thinking before you type Dash" Naaaaaa that's not fun | |||
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"Stencils? So he cheats then " How do you cheat with art? Is 'art' just about the skills of the artist, or about the concept and the feelings or thoughts that it provokes in the observer? | |||
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"Stencils? So he cheats then How do you cheat with art? Is 'art' just about the skills of the artist, or about the concept and the feelings or thoughts that it provokes in the observer?" Cheating at graffiti, should be done furtively under a railway arch, just you and your can of paint, distant sound of cop cars. His stuff is more installation art though I guess. Just installed up walls | |||
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"His "vandalism" is sort of the equivalent of someone putting your windows through will gold bars. It's rather hard to complain much when it earns you a fuckton of cash." booooom | |||
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"I think the whole mystery about who he is and his thing of having art mysteriously appear overnight is just gimmick. If you forget about that and just treat him as any other artist I really don't see what all the fuss is about. Luke " I agree. Used to be really into it, then realised all the people before him thats he’s ripped. Take the mystery away (which I do believe is all a gimmick as well) then it’s pretty boring. | |||
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"Not everyone sells out for money.. I would grab him by the scruff of his neck and make him paint over it " Only because you’d still be left with a banksy x | |||
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"I lot of different views, some critical ? I wonder what he thinks about swinging sites and all that follows ? My view a very clever talented man... His work has had some very powerful meanings, a lot of people don’t I feel understand it, but as many would not what this is all about (swinging ) Genius " Powerful meanings.. Hahahaha | |||
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"I lot of different views, some critical ? I wonder what he thinks about swinging sites and all that follows ? My view a very clever talented man... His work has had some very powerful meanings, a lot of people don’t I feel understand it, but as many would not what this is all about (swinging ) Genius Powerful meanings.. Hahahaha" Paint them toe nails ( Ahahaha ) yuk https://www.instagram.com/p/BgXSA__Dn4N/?igshid=145xn4qmt5c8b https://www.instagram.com/p/BlVwbgBhkvG/?igshid=clzps6kobzf7 https://www.instagram.com/p/BgXV5DtjyZc/?igshid=183n18ej9cmww | |||
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"Define art. It provokes and challenges. Good thread. " | |||
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