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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Just watched that bbc program with june brown about the elderly. would you ever sign a dnr form or get a necklace made with the instruction on it??

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By *lam rockerMan
over a year ago

Tain

yes, I would - if I had a terminal illness and was in pain!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Dnr - do not resuscitate

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By *aceytopWoman
over a year ago

from a town near you

yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Damn straight I would! Why prolong the inevitable? They only ever use that phrase for the hopeless cases.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I have it on my advance statement although it can be overruled

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

If i was elderly and my quality of life was slipping away i would hate to be a burden so if my heart failed id take the hint its time to go.

Being young and suffering a heart attack id love a second chance at life if it was possible.. thought of leaving my daughter alone in this world truly is my worst nightmare.

So many situations and outcomes to think about

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Damn straight I would! Why prolong the inevitable? They only ever use that phrase for the hopeless cases."

if you were out an about shopping for example you suffered a cardiac arrest.. the first person to help you isnt going to know your wishes. would you get a necklace like june brown did or just leave it to fate?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yes i wud ,,,,n they shud change law on uthanasia ,,,,,

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

It would depend on the circumstances of the dnr status

For example if it was because I was frail and ill and an attempt to rescusitate was more than likely futile then yes

If its because I had a freak accident like an electric shock then no

I watched some of that programme last night,It was very moving

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"Damn straight I would! Why prolong the inevitable? They only ever use that phrase for the hopeless cases.

if you were out an about shopping for example you suffered a cardiac arrest.. the first person to help you isnt going to know your wishes. would you get a necklace like june brown did or just leave it to fate? "

I always said i wouldnt get a bracelet but there has come a time now when i need to have one, i dont want one its just so if anthing happens they know how to treat me

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

Form yes.

Necklace only if i could get matching accessories.

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By *histler21Man
over a year ago

Ipswich


"If i was elderly and my quality of life was slipping away i would hate to be a burden so if my heart failed id take the hint its time to go.

Being young and suffering a heart attack id love a second chance at life if it was possible.. thought of leaving my daughter alone in this world truly is my worst nightmare.

So many situations and outcomes to think about"

I am tempted to consider this sort of thing - but not because I was going to be a burden ... I would want it because I would have slipped below a certain quality of life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Damn straight I would! Why prolong the inevitable? They only ever use that phrase for the hopeless cases.

if you were out an about shopping for example you suffered a cardiac arrest.. the first person to help you isnt going to know your wishes. would you get a necklace like june brown did or just leave it to fate?

I always said i wouldnt get a bracelet but there has come a time now when i need to have one, i dont want one its just so if anthing happens they know how to treat me"

Not a bad idea, i carry an organ donor card as it is. I don't want to be a burden and I don't want to suffer needlessly. The doctor can make that call if he/she feels it necessary. In the meantime, I try to live life to it's fullest.

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By *weetcheekstooWoman
over a year ago

southampton


"If i was elderly and my quality of life was slipping away i would hate to be a burden so if my heart failed id take the hint its time to go.

Being young and suffering a heart attack id love a second chance at life if it was possible.. thought of leaving my daughter alone in this world truly is my worst nightmare.

So many situations and outcomes to think about"

I totally agree with you on this situation i have 4 children and would not wish this on anyone

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By *weetcheekstooWoman
over a year ago

southampton


"Damn straight I would! Why prolong the inevitable? They only ever use that phrase for the hopeless cases.

if you were out an about shopping for example you suffered a cardiac arrest.. the first person to help you isnt going to know your wishes. would you get a necklace like june brown did or just leave it to fate? "

definatly fate

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I was advised a while back to get a medi bracelette to state i wasnt to be given adrenaline if i ever went into anaphalactic shock (really sorry on spellings) as it will do more damage than good.

Feeling promted to action that advise as come the time if i should ever need help due to that situation id not be able to communicate

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I think people with serious health problems or on lots of drugs should be chipped so all the information is there

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By *innamon!Woman
over a year ago

no matter

If I develop Alzheimers and lose my mind I would like to be put to sleep.. I think there comes a time when this choice should be given to overdose. What is the point in the government taking all the money you have worked for in keeping me in a home. not fair not what i want

I also believe In hanging for murder but thats another thread.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I didn't see the programme you refer to.

I think personally from what I can garner from the above posts - I think it sounds a good idea.

I have no kids, all me family is older than me, and I don't see me having a life partner anytime soon.

The thought of being unable to look after myself in later years is a sad and lonely one

So I reckon at some point I would consider having one, can't see any point in prolonging a miserable, poorly life dependant on strangers giving a shit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As it is, it is really sad but we all will get old sometime.

I wish there was a way of getting youngsters to regonice this fact

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago


"If I develop Alzheimers and lose my mind I would like to be put to sleep.. I think there comes a time when this choice should be given to overdose. What is the point in the government taking all the money you have worked for in keeping me in a home. not fair not what i want

I also believe In hanging for murder but thats another thread. "

But who would you like to put you to sleep and as you would more than likely lost the capacity to make an informed decision at that stage,that makes you very vulnerable in a different way to having to be cared for in a care home

Would you like a nurse to make the decision that its time to kill you? a member of your family? its a very shady area,not everyone has peoples best interests at heart when it comes to the ends of people lives,families are not always loving people that are concerned only with the care of their relative,some have ulterior motives that have nothing to do with care and comfort and more to do with what they can get out of the death

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Its worth getting a directive statement why you are still fit and healthy then you know all your wishes will be seen to, it only goes against you if it was proven under the mental health that you wasnt off sound mind when it ws written.

Its not all about health problems, its about your next of kin or who you want contacte, who would look after your house if was in hospital , it covers lots of things

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By *innamon!Woman
over a year ago

no matter

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think people with serious health problems or on lots of drugs should be chipped so all the information is there"

think thats a good idea. and medical records should be on a mass database so its easy to be treated wherever you are in the country. even if all that chip stated was your nhs hospital number that would be a start on very quickly locating records

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Its worth getting a directive statement why you are still fit and healthy then you know all your wishes will be seen to, it only goes against you if it was proven under the mental health that you wasnt off sound mind when it ws written.

Its not all about health problems, its about your next of kin or who you want contacte, who would look after your house if was in hospital , it covers lots of things"

is that like a living will?

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By *innamon!Woman
over a year ago

no matter


"If I develop Alzheimers and lose my mind I would like to be put to sleep.. I think there comes a time when this choice should be given to overdose. What is the point in the government taking all the money you have worked for in keeping me in a home. not fair not what i want

I also believe In hanging for murder but thats another thread.

But who would you like to put you to sleep and as you would more than likely lost the capacity to make an informed decision at that stage,that makes you very vulnerable in a different way to having to be cared for in a care home

Would you like a nurse to make the decision that its time to kill you? a member of your family? its a very shady area,not everyone has peoples best interests at heart when it comes to the ends of people lives,families are not always loving people that are concerned only with the care of their relative,some have ulterior motives that have nothing to do with care and comfort and more to do with what they can get out of the death "

My family would know when the time comes. they would have been instructed to take me to a person that performs this deed even if it means a trip to switzerland.

Once you have lost memory and feeling what is the point ! the person they knew has gone why prolong that sheer misery for 5 ten years more. they would be happy in the knowledge that I was at peace.

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford


"I think people with serious health problems or on lots of drugs should be chipped so all the information is there

think thats a good idea. and medical records should be on a mass database so its easy to be treated wherever you are in the country. even if all that chip stated was your nhs hospital number that would be a start on very quickly locating records"

All well and good until yer chip/medical records are hacked.

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

Even if you family take you to Switzerland or Austria to one of the dignitas clinics there is still a huge amount of redtape to go through and it would be you that would have to be able to take the medication and you would need to be able to understand why you're taking it

End of life and the decisions that surround it are awful,no-one wants to be a burden or a shell of their former selves

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By *innamon!Woman
over a year ago

no matter

I can microchip

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My mother was on life support for 4 months after a heart operation ....she came through it and decided that she didnt want to be resusitated again in the future .....2 months later still in hospital she had an episode and was resusitated ...she was quite angry but the nurses said they had just "brought her round" and not made any heroic effort to save her life ........she has lived a pretty good quality of life in the last 11 years since this incident ..........so maybe DNR should be a really considered choice ????????? i think i would chose it if i was terminally ill with no hope ........

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have several medical conditions which already significantly effect the quality of life and I am on 11 different prescription medications a day, I am in constant pain and my health will keep declining, I hope that come the day the right decision would be made for me, my boys know of my wishes and I carry dnr instructions on my person at all times when I am away from my home

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have MS and whilst it's not life ending it coud leave me in a state where I can't move, swallow , speak and would be bed bound and very prone to infection. If that ever happens then I would hope that if I was in a position of needing resuscitation that it would not happen..I have already made my wishes clear to my family though do need to now make some sort of written statement.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Off topic but when i worked with the elderly i was horrified how some families just abandoned their loved ones. it was like it was a massive inconveiniance to visit.

Dementia/altzheimers/huntingtons/parkinsons are all terrible and it must be hard to watch loved ones slip away but that june brown thing on the bbc just made it real how the elders are no longer head of the family

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The term is Dnar - do not actively resuscitate which means you do everything except restart a heart if it stops with defib .

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"I think people with serious health problems or on lots of drugs should be chipped so all the information is there

think thats a good idea. and medical records should be on a mass database so its easy to be treated wherever you are in the country. even if all that chip stated was your nhs hospital number that would be a start on very quickly locating records"

people dont want identity cards that they have to carry in their wallet....not sue they will be made about being micro-chiped ike a dog

there are ways of informing people about your illnesses and allergies such as medi alert bracelets etc...just use those.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn't think twice about signing the form and have told my wife if it came to it to let me go

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We don't facilitate death in this country . It's not legal .

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"We don't facilitate death in this country . It's not legal . "

DNR's arent facilitating death...your body is already giving up on you. tey are just instructions not to intervene with nature

Euthanasia is not legal in this country as that is facilitating death

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"We don't facilitate death in this country . It's not legal . "

its a natural end. Resuscitating is interfearing with nature.

Working in care has taught me a lot about choice and dignity. if an adult chooses dnr id respect that wish.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

People find this stuff hard to talk about with their loved ones. I was named on an advance directive as the decision maker for treatment only to discover the daughter knew nothing about it. When the time came it was not easy but so much better than to allow the suffering to continue.

My sister knows my wishes and I try to ensure that all those around me are clear about them too. I have a very simple test. Put a ringing phone next to me if I haven't answered in 3 rings get ready to pull the plug, stop all treatment. If it's still ringing after 6 rings game over.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm well aware . DNAR supports and encourages quality of life .

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

All young healthy peoplde, if you made a living will, everyone will know your wishes as i said its not just about your health but,who is your next of kin, whow would do your finances. There is alot to it. Just how much medication you wanted/didnt work.

It sounds morbid we never know whats going to happen so you need something put in place while you are fully aware of what you are doing, although it can be overturned by the mental health act, but that is in rare cases. More people start making living wills. Your doctor will have a copy and whoever else you would like a copy ie your next of kin.

Just one warning, there is a site that gives you the knowledge that you need to fill in, but make sure you used the correct wording. it will tell you on the site, im too tired to give an example, but its something to think about if there are certain wishes of what you want to happen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No Ido not agree with anmd would not have a dnr. Its not clear cut and its wide open to misinterpretation.

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