FabSwingers.com forum: advice on acholic wife ?

By *az469nw OP Man
over a year ago

walkden

Hi All,

Any advise on the above would be greatly appreciated. Her drinking getting worse two & half bottles, no social life, no sex life nor drive....

Its killing our marriage

Thanks

Gaz

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By *az469nw OP Man
over a year ago

walkden

sorry .....advise for me on how best to deal with the no social/sex life rather than my wife.... I am seeking professional help for her.

Thanks

Gaz

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

2.5 bottles of what?

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By *urchoicenowCouple
over a year ago

Ashford

Think professional advice is in order rather than a bunch of strangers if I'm honest OP.

Getting her to admit she has a problem is normally the first step, without getting all moralistic about concentrating on her rather than being on here etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hi OP,

I would definitely seek professional help. Going to be DIFFICULT, but you don't know what you have lost until its gone. On that don't loose yourself trying to save someone else... Take care.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The problem you have to concentrate on here is the alcohol issue. Everything else is secondary. Actually, not even that high.

You can get all the help you like for her, but if she doesn't recognise the problem it is doomed to failure. With this, failure carries a high price. So, get her to recognise she has a problem (won't be easy) and then get her to accept help.

If she can do both of those things, then you need to be there every step of the way. Your own social and sex life has to take a backseat.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"The problem you have to concentrate on here is the alcohol issue. Everything else is secondary. Actually, not even that high.

If she can do both of those things, then you need to be there every step of the way. Your own social and sex life has to take a backseat."

Absolutely. Deal with the problem. Then worry about sex.

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By *issmorganWoman
over a year ago

Calderdale innit

The thing is she has got to want help, been there with my sister sadly.

Does she want to get sober?

First call I'd say to gp if she will go, they can prescribe withdrawal medication.

Good luck, it really is hell to go through x

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By *iddlesticksMan
over a year ago

My nan’s spare room.

"The problem you have to concentrate on here is the alcohol issue. Everything else is secondary. Actually, not even that high.

If she can do both of those things, then you need to be there every step of the way. Your own social and sex life has to take a backseat.

Absolutely. Deal with the problem. Then worry about sex."

This is really the only good advice. When issues like this are in a household, sex shouldn’t be a priority.

Sort one problem and the other will follow.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"2.5 bottles of what? "

A comment not really needed, in all honesty?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Get professional help firstly but also encourage her to one night off a week at first, try the 0 alcohol wines/beers as they are quite good now compared to that kaliber shit years ago.

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By *on manMan
over a year ago

N West

Sorry to hear this, I had the same problem in early 2000s PM me if you like

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By *lorious hole bs16Man
over a year ago

Bristol

There is a sister group of AA known as al.anon.you can get support there.

But like others have said very little you can do for the alcoholic..

I think al.anon encourages you to detach rather than enable.

All the best ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Get professional help firstly but also encourage her to one night off a week at first, try the 0 alcohol wines/beers as they are quite good now compared to that kaliber shit years ago."

Dangerous!!

Not the best way around this stuff!! Trust me (professional and recovering alcoholic! There said it!! DO NOT ADVIZE IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOURE ADVIZING ON!!)

PLEASE!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"sorry .....advise for me on how best to deal with the no social/sex life rather than my wife.... I am seeking professional help for her.

Thanks

Gaz"

Support her. You'd want that from her. Drinking is often a response to another problem.

You may find other things sort themselves out when this is dealt with. Don't become part of the proble.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also I'd advise you get support too. There are numerous groups out there who offer this type of support.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is no reasoning with an alcoholic, it's like trying to herd chickens

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There is no reasoning with an alcoholic, it's like trying to herd chickens"

Read my previous post. Do not say it......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There is no reasoning with an alcoholic, it's like trying to herd chickens"

Usually because it's not the problem but rather a response to a problem. So trying to just stop the drinking often doesn't work as it's often used to mask another issue.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Trust me (professional and recovering alcoholic! There said it!!"

Congratulations, and very well said!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are you getting support for yourself OP? You can't fix her problem. You can point her to get help but if she won't do anything about it you need to look after yourself and decide what to do. Walking away may be the best option.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok, I don't often voice a really hardfelt nor much needed opinion on here, but I've mailed admin to stop this thread and I've mailed th OP to contact me.

Please guys, for the sake of what could potentially be a life, stop this thread.

I'm a recovering alcoholic, and now a specialist on the subject. There!! .... I said it. I'm an alcoholic, 5 Years clean and I look after a lot of stuff in my daily life. Professionally now!

Please please do not give your "opinions" on this... This needs serious help. I'm sorry, but I've seen enough craps in my professions to last me. I want everyone to have a fair go at life.

Please, for the OPs sake as well as mine and every other person dealing with this real stuff, keep your opinions to yourself.

Please!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok, I don't often voice a really hardfelt nor much needed opinion on here, but I've mailed admin to stop this thread and I've mailed th OP to contact me.

Please guys, for the sake of what could potentially be a life, stop this thread.

I'm a recovering alcoholic, and now a specialist on the subject. There!! .... I said it. I'm an alcoholic, 5 Years clean and I look after a lot of stuff in my daily life. Professionally now!

Please please do not give your "opinions" on this... This needs serious help. I'm sorry, but I've seen enough craps in my professions to last me. I want everyone to have a fair go at life.

Please, for the OPs sake as well as mine and every other person dealing with this real stuff, keep your opinions to yourself.

Please!!! "

Xxx

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By *owithflow321Man
over a year ago

Molesey

"Ok, I don't often voice a really hardfelt nor much needed opinion on here, but I've mailed admin to stop this thread and I've mailed th OP to contact me.

Please guys, for the sake of what could potentially be a life, stop this thread.

I'm a recovering alcoholic, and now a specialist on the subject. There!! .... I said it. I'm an alcoholic, 5 Years clean and I look after a lot of stuff in my daily life. Professionally now!

Please please do not give your "opinions" on this... This needs serious help. I'm sorry, but I've seen enough craps in my professions to last me. I want everyone to have a fair go at life.

Please, for the OPs sake as well as mine and every other person dealing with this real stuff, keep your opinions to yourself.

Please!!!

Xxx"

I am a recovering addict, it is so difficult for people who don’t understand what happens, communication is the key but contact me if you want any suggestions lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Probably doesn't help that your on here cheating on her...sorry but ill say it....maybe your dishonesty is the cause?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"sorry .....advise for me on how best to deal with the no social/sex life rather than my wife.... I am seeking professional help for her.

Thanks

Gaz"

Since your wife is with a professional, what exactly you are asking for? Does sound like you want a blessing for casual sex with strangers? Compassion ?

Do you have a job? Be more social with your colleagues! Look for charity work?

Or is it the fact that you have to stay at home and feel alone? Half uk is alone at home ????? Find a hobby, maybe you can find others with the same...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can have an opinion, my dad was an alcoholic and it took his life

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I can have an opinion, my dad was an alcoholic and it took his life"

My mum lost her life to alcohol as well.

I wonder sometimes where the help is for the people who got left behind, the people who despite their very best efforts couldn't help...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't understand your post. You're a recovering alcoholic, a specialist on the subject, still an alcoholic but 5 years clean and a professional. And you talk to people responding to a post asking for help like this?"

I think you'll find she was trying to counter amateur, ill founded and bad advice being offered on a subject where a life is potentially at stake.

The OP needs professional help for his wife firstly, and himself secondly. He does not not need amateur do-gooders offering opinions which could, potentially, lead to a tragic outcome.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think you'll find she was trying to counter amateur, ill founded and bad advice being offered on a subject where a life is potentially at stake.

The OP needs professional help for his wife firstly, and himself secondly. He does not not need amateur do-gooders offering opinions which could, potentially, lead to a tragic outcome."

Sounds just like the virus thread, some top scientist in there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok, I don't often voice a really hardfelt nor much needed opinion on here, but I've mailed admin to stop this thread and I've mailed th OP to contact me.

Please guys, for the sake of what could potentially be a life, stop this thread.

I'm a recovering alcoholic, and now a specialist on the subject. There!! .... I said it. I'm an alcoholic, 5 Years clean and I look after a lot of stuff in my daily life. Professionally now!

Please please do not give your "opinions" on this... This needs serious help. I'm sorry, but I've seen enough craps in my professions to last me. I want everyone to have a fair go at life.

Please, for the OPs sake as well as mine and every other person dealing with this real stuff, keep your opinions to yourself.

Please!!! "

He’s asking advice for him not his wife !! Read properly before shouting at us! He already stated he get a professional for her!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok, I don't often voice a really hardfelt nor much needed opinion on here, but I've mailed admin to stop this thread and I've mailed th OP to contact me.

Please guys, for the sake of what could potentially be a life, stop this thread.

I'm a recovering alcoholic, and now a specialist on the subject. There!! .... I said it. I'm an alcoholic, 5 Years clean and I look after a lot of stuff in my daily life. Professionally now!

Please please do not give your "opinions" on this... This needs serious help. I'm sorry, but I've seen enough craps in my professions to last me. I want everyone to have a fair go at life.

Please, for the OPs sake as well as mine and every other person dealing with this real stuff, keep your opinions to yourself.

Please!!!

He’s asking advice for him not his wife !! Read properly before shouting at us! He already stated he get a professional for her! "

I literally hate my auto correct right now!!

Leave it alone, seriously, unless you're either someone with knowledge first hand or a professional.

Seriously!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think you'll find she was trying to counter amateur, ill founded and bad advice being offered on a subject where a life is potentially at stake.

The OP needs professional help for his wife firstly, and himself secondly. He does not not need amateur do-gooders offering opinions which could, potentially, lead to a tragic outcome."

I agree that the OP needs professional help, but who are you to decide who is an "amateur do-gooder" or not? Just because the poster I quoted says they are a "professional" and swears a lot, it doesn't mean that they are. Many people have experience with addictions and I'm sure the OP is adult enough to determine which is which for himself. Sharing ones experiences with people who ask for help is not a bad thing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is only one way

JUST STOP IT

There is no other way

No short cuts available for this

JUST STOP DRINKING

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And it's the same help!!! I know... My other half had to go through it when I went through it!

You've not been there?? You, therefore have no clue!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There is only one way

JUST STOP IT

There is no other way

No short cuts available for this

JUST STOP DRINKING "

Stupidly dangerous!!!!

Why can't people even Google this????

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By *elethWoman
over a year ago

Gloucestershire

"There is a sister group of AA known as al.anon.you can get support there.

But like others have said very little you can do for the alcoholic..

I think al.anon encourages you to detach rather than enable.

All the best .."

If you've got help for her under way, help for you is your next stop. As mentioned, AlAnon and other associated groups provide support for the families and friends of alcoholics and addicts. I recommend you get in touch with one. Best of luck, lovely.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"I can have an opinion, my dad was an alcoholic and it took his life"

So so sad my ex (father to my youngest 3 children) did the same 10 years ago! Youngest was 11 it broke all 3 of them and will never b the same again! Dont think I will ever forgive him for that as horrid as that sounds! But it's how I feel x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

it’s not dangerous

You cannot treat a addiction by another addiction.

I was a Counsel for 12 years and helped over 1000

Doing the same

JUST STOP DRINKING

It might sounds bad as lot of people rely on google and forums

But study does not suggest that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It really is danferous to "just stop drinking"!!!

For fucks sake people, Google it!!! Please!!!!

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over a year ago

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"It really is danferous to "just stop drinking"!!!

For fucks sake people, Google it!!! Please!!!!"

Agreed u cant end up in hospital if u do the shakes the lot my ex eventually developed alcoholic epilepsy x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok, I don't often voice a really hardfelt nor much needed opinion on here, but I've mailed admin to stop this thread and I've mailed th OP to contact me.

Please guys, for the sake of what could potentially be a life, stop this thread.

I'm a recovering alcoholic, and now a specialist on the subject. There!! .... I said it. I'm an alcoholic, 5 Years clean and I look after a lot of stuff in my daily life. Professionally now!

Please please do not give your "opinions" on this... This needs serious help. I'm sorry, but I've seen enough craps in my professions to last me. I want everyone to have a fair go at life.

Please, for the OPs sake as well as mine and every other person dealing with this real stuff, keep your opinions to yourself.

Please!!! "

What do you mean opinions? I suggested he needs to look after himself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We are adult could use some decent words

And if the google knows better why not

Ask the google to have sex with you ?

It’s ridiculous how people think these days

What I said was is clinically proven and I’m not making this stuff up

So take it or leave it if not give alternative solution which has been clinically proven

Simple

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

All I can offer is my sympathy...I hope you find a good solution

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok, I don't often voice a really hardfelt nor much needed opinion on here, but I've mailed admin to stop this thread and I've mailed th OP to contact me.

Please guys, for the sake of what could potentially be a life, stop this thread.

I'm a recovering alcoholic, and now a specialist on the subject. There!! .... I said it. I'm an alcoholic, 5 Years clean and I look after a lot of stuff in my daily life. Professionally now!

Please please do not give your "opinions" on this... This needs serious help. I'm sorry, but I've seen enough craps in my professions to last me. I want everyone to have a fair go at life.

Please, for the OPs sake as well as mine and every other person dealing with this real stuff, keep your opinions to yourself.

Please!!!

What do you mean opinions? I suggested he needs to look after himself."

He does, but he needs to make sure there is help in place for the person with the problem! Underlying issues as to why the problem has arisen might not be so straight forward as them "enjoying a lovely pinot or two..." There's help for both. Mostly the person dealing with someone with the addiction, but both have help. It's not an easy addiction to deal with

hence whybive asked for understanding and Lee-way as nobody knows why this addiction camw about!

Want my answer on it, I'll gladly spill. But don't be shilocked as to why I turned to alcohol. Live a day in my shoes and you wouldn't want to relive that day.

Challenge anyone???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok what is the challenge

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"We are adult could use some decent words

And if the google knows better why not

Ask the google to have sex with you ?

It’s ridiculous how people think these days

What I said was is clinically proven and I’m not making this stuff up

So take it or leave it if not give alternative solution which has been clinically proven

Simple

Agreed no need for the anger bas words but she Is right! U cant just stop drinking! It's dangerous I watched my ex have his seizures after just stopping dead it's true the doctors explained it to me at the time and they were horrendous to watch and of course for the children x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't believe that an angry confrontational approach is the best way to solve a problem. OP, there are many links to help on the NHS alcohol support page. I would suggest that you log out of fab and have a look on there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP I think being on a swinging site and trying to meet behind her back isn't going to help either. Maybe get off fab, if she found out it could make things even worse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

First of all I’m sorry to hear that

But I believe you are a strong woman

Doctors were correct on that time as I believe it is beyond the medical treatment

But we can stop that way before it gets to that level,

When I say JUST STOP Drinking

Because that’s the only way, yet I didn’t mention what the immediate family could help with, friends, work colleagues, Gp etc

It’s a lot to take and process the situation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP I think being on a swinging site and trying to meet behind her back isn't going to help either. Maybe get off fab, if she found out it could make things even worse."

Voice of reason. I thank you so so bloody much xxx

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By *iamondCougarWoman
over a year ago

Norfuck! / Lincolnshire

All the guy asked for was help... and it turned into someone screaming and shouting at the top of their voice.....

That’s not really helpful and it’s taken the initial question completely off tangent

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Now that’s a very good point

I think people judge, shout and lead the conversation to somewhere irreverent

He asked help so we point him right direction or guide him

If we can’t do both then we must be quite

But I admire your point

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Both of my parents were alcoholics and both of them no longer here.

I hope your wife gets the help she needs and that you can find ways to work through things together

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can I just say that this is a very serious and private matter that the op should consult professional advice before posting publicly on a sex swingers site

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By *adame 2SwordsWoman
over a year ago

Victoria, London

not sure being on here will help

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can I just say that this is a very serious and private matter that the op should consult professional advice before posting publicly on a sex swingers site"

I have an entirely different theory in regards to his reasons for posting

I'm probably not alone

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By *ratos1Man
over a year ago

Huddersfield

"Hi All,

Any advise on the above would be greatly appreciated. Her drinking getting worse two & half bottles, no social life, no sex life nor drive....

Its killing our marriage

Thanks

Gaz"

Hi Gaz.

So sorry to hear what youre going through. I've never been through this so I cant advise but I just wanted to say stay strong and try and seek all the help you can.

Keep.smiling

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can I just say that this is a very serious and private matter that the op should consult professional advice before posting publicly on a sex swingers site

I have an entirely different theory in regards to his reasons for posting

I'm probably not alone "

What theory?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"2.5 bottles of what?

A comment not really needed, in all honesty?

2.5 bottles of wine is very different to 2.5 bottles of spirits.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"First of all I’m sorry to hear that

But I believe you are a strong woman

Doctors were correct on that time as I believe it is beyond the medical treatment

But we can stop that way before it gets to that level,

When I say JUST STOP Drinking

Because that’s the only way, yet I didn’t mention what the immediate family could help with, friends, work colleagues, Gp etc

It’s a lot to take and process the situation

Well, as a professional, shouldn't you do an assessment, and gather all the facts before offering any advice until the exact situation is known?

Maybe it's a minor issue that's escalating. Maybe its totally out of control? Maybe it's so far gone liver damage has already occurred? Without the facts, you don't know, and cannot advise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok, I don't often voice a really hardfelt nor much needed opinion on here, but I've mailed admin to stop this thread and I've mailed th OP to contact me.

Please guys, for the sake of what could potentially be a life, stop this thread.

I'm a recovering alcoholic, and now a specialist on the subject. There!! .... I said it. I'm an alcoholic, 5 Years clean and I look after a lot of stuff in my daily life. Professionally now!

Please please do not give your "opinions" on this... This needs serious help. I'm sorry, but I've seen enough craps in my professions to last me. I want everyone to have a fair go at life.

Please, for the OPs sake as well as mine and every other person dealing with this real stuff, keep your opinions to yourself.

Please!!!

What do you mean opinions? I suggested he needs to look after himself.

hence whybive asked for understanding and Lee-way as nobody knows why this addiction camw about!

Want my answer on it, I'll gladly spill. But don't be shilocked as to why I turned to alcohol. Live a day in my shoes and you wouldn't want to relive that day.

Challenge anyone???"

I don't think it's a good idea to reveal your story on the forum. You clearly feel very strongly about it. Hope you are ok. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"2.5 bottles of what?

A comment not really needed, in all honesty?

2.5 bottles of wine is very different to 2.5 bottles of spirits. "

Or 2.5 bottles of beer or cider

That was kinda why I asked

I know some people who think that anyone who drinks 7 nights a week are alcoholics - even though it might only be 2 or 3 beers, a consumption which many others wouldn't even blink at

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can I just say that this is a very serious and private matter that the op should consult professional advice before posting publicly on a sex swingers site

I have an entirely different theory in regards to his reasons for posting

I'm probably not alone "

Yeah I had the same theory and got abused for it lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I can have an opinion, my dad was an alcoholic and it took his life

My mum lost her life to alcohol as well.

I wonder sometimes where the help is for the people who got left behind, the people who despite their very best efforts couldn't help... "

My mum lost her life to it as well. There was no help for her or for us. We had literally no idea what to do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok, I don't often voice a really hardfelt nor much needed opinion on here, but I've mailed admin to stop this thread and I've mailed th OP to contact me.

Please guys, for the sake of what could potentially be a life, stop this thread.

I'm a recovering alcoholic, and now a specialist on the subject. There!! .... I said it. I'm an alcoholic, 5 Years clean and I look after a lot of stuff in my daily life. Professionally now!

Please please do not give your "opinions" on this... This needs serious help. I'm sorry, but I've seen enough craps in my professions to last me. I want everyone to have a fair go at life.

Please, for the OPs sake as well as mine and every other person dealing with this real stuff, keep your opinions to yourself.

Please!!! "

As someone who has supported alchoholics in the past I can only agree with this

I would seek help for yourself first OP before anything else. Self care is crucial

Wish you luck

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I can have an opinion, my dad was an alcoholic and it took his life

My mum lost her life to alcohol as well.

I wonder sometimes where the help is for the people who got left behind, the people who despite their very best efforts couldn't help...

My mum lost her life to it as well. There was no help for her or for us. We had literally no idea what to do

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By *ratos1Man
over a year ago

Huddersfield

"Can I just say that this is a very serious and private matter that the op should consult professional advice before posting publicly on a sex swingers site"

Maybe he just wants to reach out to somebody but probably regrets it after heartless, judgemental comments like this

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By * dont knowMan
over a year ago

tf1

I said. To my ex do you want the grandchildren to remember that your a d*unk bit harsh but it worked she hasnt drank for 6 years

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have most of you read the ops’ opening two posts??? Or am I missing something here???

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By *oodnitegirlWoman
over a year ago

Yorkshire

OP you have my sympathies, my parents too are suffering long term affects from excessive alcohol dependency and like some others on here I’m not going to berate you for posting... I appreciate sometimes it’s easier to talk to a stranger or gather the opinions/real-life tales of an ‘everyday person’ rather than a ‘professional’ with regards to help for yourself but be assured there should be no embarrassment in ringing your local drugs service or a signposting service (IAPT through the GP is a good tool or a local ‘man’s club’ style meeting group.)

People often forget that although your poor wife is dealing with this illness and dependency you too are dealing with stresses and not knowing where to turn. You too need support to be able to support her.

I agree with others though. Put the sex on the back burner for the moment and get both of you in the right place. You’re both suffering

Love and luck to you both xx

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By *ratos1Man
over a year ago

Huddersfield

"OP you have my sympathies, my parents too are suffering long term affects from excessive alcohol dependency and like some others on here I’m not going to berate you for posting... I appreciate sometimes it’s easier to talk to a stranger or gather the opinions/real-life tales of an ‘everyday person’ rather than a ‘professional’ with regards to help for yourself but be assured there should be no embarrassment in ringing your local drugs service or a signposting service (IAPT through the GP is a good tool or a local ‘man’s club’ style meeting group.)

I agree with others though. Put the sex on the back burner for the moment and get both of you in the right place. You’re both suffering

Love and luck to you both xx

So there are good people on the forums after all.

Great words of support

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By *otstuffbabeCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

"sorry .....advise for me on how best to deal with the no social/sex life rather than my wife.... I am seeking professional help for her.

Thanks

Gaz"

How selfish. You're asking for advice on how to cheat on your alcoholic wife? hat a prince.

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By *ugofirstMan
over a year ago

livingston

Split from my daughter’s mum due to this. Raised my daughter on my own from 22months. Still speak to her sometimes but, she is not in a good place.

A waste of a beautiful person

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

Really????

Fuck off!! Literally fuck the Hell off!

Now go silence me, mods!!!

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By *erriAnneTV/TS
over a year ago

The shire

"2.5 bottles of what?

A comment not really needed, in all honesty?

Can't see anything wrong with the comment tbh. 2 1/2 bottles of lager could literally be the issue. 2 1/2 bottles of wine is very serious or 2 1/2 bottles of vodka is very serious. Think you need to maybe tone down your own attitude tbh

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

Can the people who say they are experts on a subject and that others shouldn't post their views, please remember that you still have to stick within forum rules when you post

To the OP , if you are trying to help your wife overcome a drinking problem it might be best to look at sites that will be more appropriate. The recovery may need concentrating on though

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