FabSwingers.com forum: No job is safe

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

While this pandemic has been going on no job is secure anymore the amount of companies that have shut up shop so to speak many companies that are going into administration talk about the whole of England in a bit of a mess is an understatement. Life what we used to know will never return we just got to to get on with it and see what happens not looking very bright to be honest though

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By *offiaCoolWoman
over a year ago

Kidsgrove

Rather sweeping generalisation. Many companies have been boosted through different demands during this pandemic, some have even been rescued from near bankruptcy.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

just scrape through and some are just in real danger I work in one of the top 4 retail supermarkets but you're still always looking over your shoulder and thinking what if

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

It's shown that no company is too big to be dragged under, I think the collapse of Arcadia group shows this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It depends on the industry.

Retail and hospitality have been hit the hardest.

But other sectors are unaffected, insurance, solicitors etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Times are shit for many and uncertain for many more, but I refuse to adopt a doom prophecy

Things WILL get better despite the ride having more downs than ups at the mo

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By *lynJMan
over a year ago

Morden

"It's shown that no company is too big to be dragged under, I think the collapse of Arcadia group shows this."

It was in trouble already. The pandemic only hastened its demise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Many jobs are safe. My job and plenty of others will never be obsolete.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

Yes for sure! I worked for a small business and was on furlough for 5 months they had to make us all but one redundant end july they lost 85% of their clients it was a husband and wife team that had been building the business up for 12 years! Feel for them losing it all we have all got new jobs since and sure there will b many many more small business go same way x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mine will never be obsolete..... Not while there are humans on the planet!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Rather sweeping generalisation.."

Definitely.

In some senses, nobody's job is entirely safe, but there are many different situations brought about by the pandemic.

My profession / job hasn't been affected particularly, but we'll see how the next couple of years unfold.

Once the scaffolding is pulled down from the economy, we'll learn the true cost of the pandemic to jobs and industry - we'll find out who the winers and losers are/were.

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By *tephanjMan
over a year ago

Kettering

If we all supported our local shops and stayed away from the likes of Amazon,we may save other businessess from going under. Shop local

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

And of course the worst thing is is mental health now will be more up especially with more people losing their jobs more people knowing that it's going to be a lot harder for them to find a replacement job I know that there are some good people out there that can help but you can't help everyone unfortunately

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By *offiaCoolWoman
over a year ago

Kidsgrove

"Rather sweeping generalisation..

Definitely.

In some senses, nobody's job is entirely safe, but there are many different situations brought about by the pandemic.

My profession / job hasn't been affected particularly, but we'll see how the next couple of years unfold.

Once the scaffolding is pulled down from the economy, we'll learn the true cost of the pandemic to jobs and industry - we'll find out who the winers and losers are/were."

As a previous poster said, as long as there are humans alive on this planet, my area of work will always be employed in vast numbers.

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By *obbytupperMan
over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley

I don't drink at home, so I have given up alcohol during the pandemic. It is possibly a good job as such a lot of pubs will not survive this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mine will also never be obsolete, business as usual.

Though I do understand the uncertainty for many.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's shown that no company is too big to be dragged under, I think the collapse of Arcadia group shows this."

They were in trouble a long time ago, Phillip Green asset strips when he aquires, including peoples pensions. He should be stripped of his title and face criminal charges, and have his assets removed and sold to pay back those he swindled.

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By *owboy BebopMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Some jobs / professions may be unaffected, but I suspect that many may suffer. The economy will take a hit, then the communities and society that we’re all in will suffer. We’re all in it together.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do wonder if some of the initial economic effects of Brexit will be conveniently blamed on Covid

Or is that cynical of me?

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Lanzarote

My job is very safe. Healthcare workers will always be needed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That is a sweeping statement. As mentioned, it’s not made a difference to some, to others, they’re growing and to some, they’ve even closed offices and taken on more staff with savings in rent due to everyone now working from home.

The company I worked for, on the other hand, did something that couldn’t be diversified and I have lost my job as have many others in similar positions. I’m now struggling to find work.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"I do wonder if some of the initial economic effects of Brexit will be conveniently blamed on Covid

Or is that cynical of me? "

For sure they will x

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By *tephanjMan
over a year ago

Kettering

I work for a large international company who seem to have got through this rather well. My issue will be that now they will treat us like crap, you ask or question anything the answer is going to be there's the door, there's plenty of other people out there we can replace you with. I'm only a lowly security officer

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By *viatrixWoman
over a year ago

Redhill

Well, good for those who think they will never lose their job. Hopefully they won’t, ever.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"Well, good for those who think they will never lose their job. Hopefully they won’t, ever.

I never say never in anything! Famous last words and all that! X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I had my best year ever by more than 40%. If the world changes then we need to change and adapt ourselves....

If the virus had hit us 20 years ago we'd be in a much worse place. If something similar hits us in 20 years time it'll probably be negligible, mainly because we adapt....

Chin up

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By *rhugesMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

And public sector working are threating to go on strike over pay freeze next year

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"While this pandemic has been going on no job is secure anymore the amount of companies that have shut up shop so to speak many companies that are going into administration talk about the whole of England in a bit of a mess is an understatement. Life what we used to know will never return we just got to to get on with it and see what happens not looking very bright to be honest though"

I was wondering where you were. How are you doing?

We've found through bitter experience that no job has been safe for about the last 30 years. The pandemic has undoubtedly made things much worse though. I think all we can do is batten down the hatches, insist that the vulnerable physically and financially are looked after and make sure we look out for other people ourselves.

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

"It's shown that no company is too big to be dragged under, I think the collapse of Arcadia group shows this.

It was in trouble already. The pandemic only hastened its demise."

Maybe so or maybe in more stable times a buyer would have come forward. Also in other times it may have been possible for a managed decline instead of sudden collapse. Also there would have been more employment options open to Arcadia employees instead of the mass unemployment we are currently faced with.

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By *eeBee67Man
over a year ago

Masked and Distant

Things change, and not just because of the pandemic.

We have been changing towards a more online retail society for a long time. I agree that the pandemic has accelerated the change, but it was going to come anyway. The retail sector will have to change and adapt. It seems to be that the retailers with poor online presence are being affected very badly. Let's face it Phillip Green has only just got a smart phone, and refuses to accept people want to shop online.

Other sectors are much less affected, construction for instance. Very difficult to order a new hospital or nursing home or hotel, and have it delivered and constructed online.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Many of the retail chains and groups, that have now gone, were living on borrowed time, before anyone had heard of covid.

I’m sad for the people, who’ve had their jobs, and lives severely damaged by the losses and have struggled in the covid year.

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By *ild_oatsMan
over a year ago

the land of saints & sinners

"If we all supported our local shops and stayed away from the likes of Amazon,we may save other businessess from going under. Shop local

That’s nothing more than sloganeering and wishful thinking.

Not everything can be bought locally. The internet shopping genie is out of the bottle and you cannot put it back.

Railing against the likes of Amazon will do nothing.

Retailers that adapt, embrace and change will thrive. Retail is law of the jungle only fittest survive.

Internet and shopping local offer different experiences to their customers and retailers need play to their strengths in whichever arena they are in...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I suspect the anti Amazon feeling, is because they treat staff appallingly and as for zero hour contracts, in other industries, the government minister responsible for slowing those to be created, needs to be embalmed.

I’m no fan of Amazon because of their business practices, so I choose not to buy from them.

It could equally be said, if many high street retailers, who use sweat shops and pay pigshT to the workers, in order to sell clothing at cheap prices - primark, being one example, many others, UK based are available.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sucks to be a nightclub owner, like what help is available to them?

People in the wedding industry as well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I lost my job back in June.

Good riddance.

I'm poor but happier

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I read this morning that the Welsh Rugby Union recorded a £5.3 million pound loss this year, also the principality stadium normally hosts loads of events not just sport but concerts and monster trucks and even a Santa tour of the stadium which usually runs throughout December.

I’d say the arts, entertainment and music sector has lost loads this year too.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"Times are shit for many and uncertain for many more, but I refuse to adopt a doom prophecy

Things WILL get better despite the ride having more downs than ups at the mo"

Sums up my viewpoint.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

It's been similar for the last 30-40 years op, the days of jobs for life are mostly long gone ..

Flexibility, able to adapt and looking for the next opportunity are something the younger generations could adopt..

One of the plusses for a very small number is the chance to asset strip such high street institutions and sadly that's at the cost to those who provide the labour..

Until there's mass social changes where such things can't happen which will not be handed over by those who continue to profit then it how it is for some sadly..

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By *ames_LondonMan
over a year ago

Southgate

Things will get much worse before they get better. The impact of Covid on most sectors hasn’t crystallised yet.

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By *unkym34Man
over a year ago

London

"It depends on the industry.

Retail and hospitality have been hit the hardest.

But other sectors are unaffected, insurance, solicitors etc"
insurance has been hit and will continue to be. Several hundred thousand claims currently awaiting revue where business have claimed against the policy ( believe it or not many companies took a forced closure policy which means they are all trying to claim but as always insurance companies are trying to say it does not cover a pandemic). Currently there is a test case going through the high court or European court sorry not sure which one. If won insurance companies will be forced to claim and many have said they will already not be able to meet costs.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

And the irony of the rush by those to grab a bargain from Debenhams now there's a fire sale will be hard to bear for some loyal employees who have given long years of service to the brand..

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By *unkym34Man
over a year ago

London

I fear for our children and their children who will have to pay for all this over the course of their life times as well as possibly seeing their whole way of life changed due to their parents losing their jobs / homes and this is already on top of the disruption to their physical health, mental health and education.

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By *ommo60Man
over a year ago

STOCKPORT

the crime rate will go off the scale

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Things will get much worse before they get better. The impact of Covid on most sectors hasn’t crystallised yet. "

Unfortunately this is true, the impact on global demand will take some time to be felt. Here's hoping that it won't be catastrophic.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Many jobs are safe. Mine is so that’s a sweeping statement

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mine is definitely safe. When I lost my job due to covid earlier in the year I changed the sector I work in to one that would never be affected by any major event. Took a big pay cut but certainly have security now.

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By *innie The MinxWoman
over a year ago

Under the Duvet

There will be changes for sure, OP.

Some people will be out of work and worse off.

I may well be one if them.

However there will be opportunities also.

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By *etcplCouple
over a year ago

Gapping Fanny

Start an Only Fans - that seems to be a booming industry

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By *9alMan
over a year ago

Bridgend

you are right OP no job is safe, you never know what will happen in the future that's why we need safety nets that work not universal credit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My jobs never been safer tbf think my target last week was taking 75 grand and I did 108 before wednsday, never been so busy and think theyd have me working 60 hour weeks if they could.... Only a shame I'm not commission based because it seems unfair I'm working 4x as hard for the same money but just greatful I don't have to worry about job security

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By *aggy dollsCouple
over a year ago

bradford

What even blow jobs arent safe?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Start an Only Fans - that seems to be a booming industry

If only! I dare say I could have earned enough to buy a cup of tea by the end of the year

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