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" Your parents are supposed to be your care givers and first experience of receiving love so if something......" Goes wrong for them they should remember that their first responsibility should be to their children and not put themselves before their children. | |||
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"Doesn’t have to be in too much detail. Could someone finish this sentence please? Your parents are supposed to be your care givers and first experience of receiving love so if something......" Is going wrong in their life, they shouldn't take it out on their children | |||
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"My parents weren’t great my childhood terrible. I’m forever running from the experience I had. I will carry that weight forever. The older I get the more I come to terms with the experiences I had in that part of the world. Glad I found my real mum and made peace though before she passed " I have found the opposite. The older I get the more angry and bitter I am. I think it's because I now realise how selfish they where as a parent and grandparent I struggle to understand how they did and acted as they did, I would never put my children through the same. I struggled my entire life to cultivate a relationship with my mother and lockdown has helped by more regular phone calls and things where improving until she died suddenly 4weeks ago I feel like I have been robbed of a childhood and now an adult relationship with my mother. | |||
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"Thinking more along the lines of lack. Your parents are supposed to be your care givers and your first experience of receiving love so if any of those elements are missing, it can something something something something. Need a banging sentence for that please. " Oh is this for your book? So your not actually interested in people's feelings just want a decent soundbite so it seems like you thought of it? | |||
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"Thinking more along the lines of lack. Your parents are supposed to be your care givers and your first experience of receiving love so if any of those elements are missing, it can something something something something. Need a banging sentence for that please. " Ate you writing this book or are we? ![]() ![]() | |||
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"My parents weren’t great my childhood terrible. I’m forever running from the experience I had. I will carry that weight forever. The older I get the more I come to terms with the experiences I had in that part of the world. Glad I found my real mum and made peace though before she passed I have found the opposite. The older I get the more angry and bitter I am. I think it's because I now realise how selfish they where as a parent and grandparent I struggle to understand how they did and acted as they did, I would never put my children through the same. I struggled my entire life to cultivate a relationship with my mother and lockdown has helped by more regular phone calls and things where improving until she died suddenly 4weeks ago I feel like I have been robbed of a childhood and now an adult relationship with my mother." I found my Mum and attempted to build a bridge with her for about a year and she was cruelly snatched by Dementia and Alzheimer’s. This was coupled by her being in her home country so it was tough. I don’t look back in bitterness but I carry the weight of what happened and that will never go. | |||
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"Thinking more along the lines of lack. Your parents are supposed to be your care givers and your first experience of receiving love so if any of those elements are missing, it can something something something something. Need a banging sentence for that please. Oh is this for your book? So your not actually interested in people's feelings just want a decent soundbite so it seems like you thought of it?" I'd hope that isn't the case, if it is that's very callous | |||
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"My parents weren’t great my childhood terrible. I’m forever running from the experience I had. I will carry that weight forever. The older I get the more I come to terms with the experiences I had in that part of the world. Glad I found my real mum and made peace though before she passed I have found the opposite. The older I get the more angry and bitter I am. I think it's because I now realise how selfish they where as a parent and grandparent I struggle to understand how they did and acted as they did, I would never put my children through the same. I struggled my entire life to cultivate a relationship with my mother and lockdown has helped by more regular phone calls and things where improving until she died suddenly 4weeks ago I feel like I have been robbed of a childhood and now an adult relationship with my mother. I found my Mum and attempted to build a bridge with her for about a year and she was cruelly snatched by Dementia and Alzheimer’s. This was coupled by her being in her home country so it was tough. I don’t look back in bitterness but I carry the weight of what happened and that will never go. " I know what you mean, it was my birthday yesterday and I spent the whole day crying. | |||
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"How would you describe this and how much truth is in it? " Almost everything we have in our id, self awareness, emotional depth, etc... literally everything, get its foundation from childhood. If people understood this fully, parenting would be different. | |||
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"I listened to a podcast interview with keiran culkin and it stuck with me that he felt that by the time someone reaches their 30s, perhaps they should have found a way to let go of their childhood rather than be incapacitated by it " I'm not incapacitated by it anymore, I went off the rails and I sorted myself out. But I would be lying if the experience doesn't still impact me. It just doesn't as frequently anymore | |||
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"Doesn’t have to be in too much detail. Could someone finish this sentence please? Your parents are supposed to be your care givers and first experience of receiving love so if something......" I never had in my life mum and dad and family also ![]() | |||
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"My parents weren’t great my childhood terrible. I’m forever running from the experience I had. I will carry that weight forever. The older I get the more I come to terms with the experiences I had in that part of the world. Glad I found my real mum and made peace though before she passed I have found the opposite. The older I get the more angry and bitter I am. I think it's because I now realise how selfish they where as a parent and grandparent I struggle to understand how they did and acted as they did, I would never put my children through the same. I struggled my entire life to cultivate a relationship with my mother and lockdown has helped by more regular phone calls and things where improving until she died suddenly 4weeks ago I feel like I have been robbed of a childhood and now an adult relationship with my mother. I found my Mum and attempted to build a bridge with her for about a year and she was cruelly snatched by Dementia and Alzheimer’s. This was coupled by her being in her home country so it was tough. I don’t look back in bitterness but I carry the weight of what happened and that will never go. I know what you mean, it was my birthday yesterday and I spent the whole day crying." It would be a lie to say it always gets easier and better as it’s not the same for everyone. Hope it eases for you at this tough time. | |||
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"Thinking more along the lines of lack. Your parents are supposed to be your care givers and your first experience of receiving love so if any of those elements are missing, it can something something something something. Need a banging sentence for that please. Oh is this for your book? So your not actually interested in people's feelings just want a decent soundbite so it seems like you thought of it?" I know what I want to say, it’s up there, just want a universal response rather than my own experience. I won’t use people’s personal experiences, just the basic elements of emotions and behaviours. | |||
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"Thinking more along the lines of lack. Your parents are supposed to be your care givers and your first experience of receiving love so if any of those elements are missing, it can something something something something. Need a banging sentence for that please. " It's an interesting topic, one I've spent a lot of time thinking about and sorting out in my own life. But... you need to find your own authorial voice in order to write something that will carry a reader through. The forum won't give you that, you need to find your own. It also is very unlikely to give you enough insight or authoritative sources to be able to carry a book like you want to write. | |||
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"Doesn’t have to be in too much detail. Could someone finish this sentence please? Your parents are supposed to be your care givers and first experience of receiving love so if something...... I never had in my life mum and dad and family also ![]() Have this impacted my life? Yes defenitly , i always feel everything was taking away from me at age of 5 , living in orphanage for 16 years was my childhood, i can't say was bad or was good at my young age i couldn't understand what was happening arround me , apart from asking to myself what i have done wrong ! | |||
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"Thinking more along the lines of lack. Your parents are supposed to be your care givers and your first experience of receiving love so if any of those elements are missing, it can something something something something. Need a banging sentence for that please. Oh is this for your book? So your not actually interested in people's feelings just want a decent soundbite so it seems like you thought of it? I'd hope that isn't the case, if it is that's very callous" At no point in my opening post did I ask everyone to spill their guts about their own personal experiences. Just said “Childhood shaping as you are as an adult, how would you describe this and how much truth is in it” Just basic things I want not people’s personal experiences. Things like an absent father may present itself as someone having abandonment issues. A man growing up with a strict father may present itself as someone who struggles to show emotions. I won’t use people’s personal experiences. Just the basics, the action and the result. | |||
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"Thinking more along the lines of lack. Your parents are supposed to be your care givers and your first experience of receiving love so if any of those elements are missing, it can something something something something. Need a banging sentence for that please. Oh is this for your book? So your not actually interested in people's feelings just want a decent soundbite so it seems like you thought of it? I know what I want to say, it’s up there, just want a universal response rather than my own experience. I won’t use people’s personal experiences, just the basic elements of emotions and behaviours. " I get what you are saying Annie, but by thinking about childhood trauma/unhappiness you could be triggering them, especially when people are fragile due to current circumstances. Now if it's a thread and a discussion then the posters may benefit, but for a sentence for your book just comes across a bit wrong. Sure it wasn't intended as such but care I think must be taken when talking about such a delicate subject. | |||
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"Thinking more along the lines of lack. Your parents are supposed to be your care givers and your first experience of receiving love so if any of those elements are missing, it can something something something something. Need a banging sentence for that please. Oh is this for your book? So your not actually interested in people's feelings just want a decent soundbite so it seems like you thought of it? I'd hope that isn't the case, if it is that's very callous At no point in my opening post did I ask everyone to spill their guts about their own personal experiences. Just said “Childhood shaping as you are as an adult, how would you describe this and how much truth is in it” Just basic things I want not people’s personal experiences. Things like an absent father may present itself as someone having abandonment issues. A man growing up with a strict father may present itself as someone who struggles to show emotions. I won’t use people’s personal experiences. Just the basics, the action and the result. " Will you credit the fab forum lounge upon printing? | |||
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"Thinking more along the lines of lack. Your parents are supposed to be your care givers and your first experience of receiving love so if any of those elements are missing, it can something something something something. Need a banging sentence for that please. Oh is this for your book? So your not actually interested in people's feelings just want a decent soundbite so it seems like you thought of it? I know what I want to say, it’s up there, just want a universal response rather than my own experience. I won’t use people’s personal experiences, just the basic elements of emotions and behaviours. I get what you are saying Annie, but by thinking about childhood trauma/unhappiness you could be triggering them, especially when people are fragile due to current circumstances. Now if it's a thread and a discussion then the posters may benefit, but for a sentence for your book just comes across a bit wrong. Sure it wasn't intended as such but care I think must be taken when talking about such a delicate subject. " If people get triggered by their childhood they would probably avoid a thread that has ‘childhood’ in the title. | |||
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"Thinking more along the lines of lack. Your parents are supposed to be your care givers and your first experience of receiving love so if any of those elements are missing, it can something something something something. Need a banging sentence for that please. Oh is this for your book? So your not actually interested in people's feelings just want a decent soundbite so it seems like you thought of it? I'd hope that isn't the case, if it is that's very callous At no point in my opening post did I ask everyone to spill their guts about their own personal experiences. Just said “Childhood shaping as you are as an adult, how would you describe this and how much truth is in it” Just basic things I want not people’s personal experiences. Things like an absent father may present itself as someone having abandonment issues. A man growing up with a strict father may present itself as someone who struggles to show emotions. I won’t use people’s personal experiences. Just the basics, the action and the result. Will you credit the fab forum lounge upon printing? " In acknowledgments I have said thank you to all the fabulous men and women of the forums, as a secret nod to you all. | |||
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"Thinking more along the lines of lack. Your parents are supposed to be your care givers and your first experience of receiving love so if any of those elements are missing, it can something something something something. Need a banging sentence for that please. Oh is this for your book? So your not actually interested in people's feelings just want a decent soundbite so it seems like you thought of it? I know what I want to say, it’s up there, just want a universal response rather than my own experience. I won’t use people’s personal experiences, just the basic elements of emotions and behaviours. I get what you are saying Annie, but by thinking about childhood trauma/unhappiness you could be triggering them, especially when people are fragile due to current circumstances. Now if it's a thread and a discussion then the posters may benefit, but for a sentence for your book just comes across a bit wrong. Sure it wasn't intended as such but care I think must be taken when talking about such a delicate subject. If people get triggered by their childhood they would probably avoid a thread that has ‘childhood’ in the title. " Bullshit, the domestic abuse threads are started and filled with people who experienced it and still dealing with it. Those threads are emotional as but the support the fora give each order is touching as, it the forum at it's very best. People will look because people want/need to vent things anonymously. And I stand by my statement great care should be taken when starting these threads and how the OP is worded | |||
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"Thinking more along the lines of lack. Your parents are supposed to be your care givers and your first experience of receiving love so if any of those elements are missing, it can something something something something. Need a banging sentence for that please. Oh is this for your book? So your not actually interested in people's feelings just want a decent soundbite so it seems like you thought of it? I know what I want to say, it’s up there, just want a universal response rather than my own experience. I won’t use people’s personal experiences, just the basic elements of emotions and behaviours. I get what you are saying Annie, but by thinking about childhood trauma/unhappiness you could be triggering them, especially when people are fragile due to current circumstances. Now if it's a thread and a discussion then the posters may benefit, but for a sentence for your book just comes across a bit wrong. Sure it wasn't intended as such but care I think must be taken when talking about such a delicate subject. If people get triggered by their childhood they would probably avoid a thread that has ‘childhood’ in the title. Bullshit, the domestic abuse threads are started and filled with people who experienced it and still dealing with it. Those threads are emotional as but the support the fora give each order is touching as, it the forum at it's very best. People will look because people want/need to vent things anonymously. And I stand by my statement great care should be taken when starting these threads and how the OP is worded " Totally agree ![]() | |||
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"Thinking more along the lines of lack. Your parents are supposed to be your care givers and your first experience of receiving love so if any of those elements are missing, it can something something something something. Need a banging sentence for that please. Oh is this for your book? So your not actually interested in people's feelings just want a decent soundbite so it seems like you thought of it? I know what I want to say, it’s up there, just want a universal response rather than my own experience. I won’t use people’s personal experiences, just the basic elements of emotions and behaviours. I get what you are saying Annie, but by thinking about childhood trauma/unhappiness you could be triggering them, especially when people are fragile due to current circumstances. Now if it's a thread and a discussion then the posters may benefit, but for a sentence for your book just comes across a bit wrong. Sure it wasn't intended as such but care I think must be taken when talking about such a delicate subject. If people get triggered by their childhood they would probably avoid a thread that has ‘childhood’ in the title. Bullshit, the domestic abuse threads are started and filled with people who experienced it and still dealing with it. Those threads are emotional as but the support the fora give each order is touching as, it the forum at it's very best. People will look because people want/need to vent things anonymously. And I stand by my statement great care should be taken when starting these threads and how the OP is worded " The forums are a couple of hundred people at most. I’m hoping my book will reach thousands. I want people to understand how their childhood can impact them so they can understand why they react to certain things, remove blame from themselves and do some inner child healing IF they know where the source of their pain comes from. I said nothing nasty or triggering in my opening post, I just how much truth is in this. I’m sure anyone that comments on here would be happy to know that them sharing their opinion would go on to help another person. Comment or don’t fucking comment. People have a choice if they want to read a thread or make a comment. | |||
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"Thinking more along the lines of lack. Your parents are supposed to be your care givers and your first experience of receiving love so if any of those elements are missing, it can something something something something. Need a banging sentence for that please. Oh is this for your book? So your not actually interested in people's feelings just want a decent soundbite so it seems like you thought of it? I know what I want to say, it’s up there, just want a universal response rather than my own experience. I won’t use people’s personal experiences, just the basic elements of emotions and behaviours. I get what you are saying Annie, but by thinking about childhood trauma/unhappiness you could be triggering them, especially when people are fragile due to current circumstances. Now if it's a thread and a discussion then the posters may benefit, but for a sentence for your book just comes across a bit wrong. Sure it wasn't intended as such but care I think must be taken when talking about such a delicate subject. If people get triggered by their childhood they would probably avoid a thread that has ‘childhood’ in the title. Bullshit, the domestic abuse threads are started and filled with people who experienced it and still dealing with it. Those threads are emotional as but the support the fora give each order is touching as, it the forum at it's very best. People will look because people want/need to vent things anonymously. And I stand by my statement great care should be taken when starting these threads and how the OP is worded Totally agree ![]() Yes. These are delicate issues. | |||
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"I'm not going to answer the OP because I will lose my shit but in future Annie, can you put in your OP if it's for your book or if it's a genuine interest and discussion about people's lives and experiences?" ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I'm not going to answer the OP because I will lose my shit but in future Annie, can you put in your OP if it's for your book or if it's a genuine interest and discussion about people's lives and experiences?" Ooooo sorry hard. | |||
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"I'm not going to answer the OP because I will lose my shit but in future Annie, can you put in your OP if it's for your book or if it's a genuine interest and discussion about people's lives and experiences? ![]() ![]() ![]() Yes. I'm happy to talk as a person, people to people. Being mined for information, I'm not so cool with. | |||
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"I'm not going to answer the OP because I will lose my shit but in future Annie, can you put in your OP if it's for your book or if it's a genuine interest and discussion about people's lives and experiences? ![]() ![]() ![]() Same! | |||
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"I'm not going to answer the OP because I will lose my shit but in future Annie, can you put in your OP if it's for your book or if it's a genuine interest and discussion about people's lives and experiences? ![]() ![]() ![]() Exactly xx | |||
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"But to be told that you "Need a banging sentence for that please" on an emotive subject is offensive and uncaring. " It also won't work. You need to have a coherent unified voice as an author. | |||
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"I'm not going to answer the OP because I will lose my shit but in future Annie, can you put in your OP if it's for your book or if it's a genuine interest and discussion about people's lives and experiences?" Really,true! ![]() | |||
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"Of course your childhood shapes your life as an adult. It's ridiculous to think it doesn't. Whether you take the examples of the adults around you and follow them or go completely the opposite way, or take bits and follow them but not others, you will always have those as your guide. Chances are that as an adult you'll grow more and change again. As a discussion this is going to be emotive for a lot of people and could be interesting and cathartic. But to be told that you "Need a banging sentence for that please" on an emotive subject is offensive and uncaring. Mining the forum for our experiences is all well and good if you're upfront about it. Maybe you should mention in your OP each time that that is what you're doing, as it gives people a better opportunity to scroll past if they're not interested in being a part of it but otherwise would have shared their experiences." I think she is writing a book | |||
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"How would you describe this and how much truth is in it? " I think it is true. All life experiences affect future behaviour. The same life experience affects different people in different ways though. A shitty childhood may make someone bitter and nasty and turn to a life of crime. A shitty childhood may make someone want to be better and they become a successful kind adult. | |||
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"How would you describe this and how much truth is in it? I think it is true. All life experiences affect future behaviour. The same life experience affects different people in different ways though. A shitty childhood may make someone bitter and nasty and turn to a life of crime. A shitty childhood may make someone want to be better and they become a successful kind adult. " And that's the point I made | |||
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"How would you describe this and how much truth is in it? " Plenty of research and evidence which backs this up, I did this for my degree Start with Maslow/Bowlby Research the experiments, the blank face experiment - Bobo Doll experiment I'm being a bit vague I know but happy to help you | |||
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"How would you describe this and how much truth is in it? I think it is true. All life experiences affect future behaviour. The same life experience affects different people in different ways though. A shitty childhood may make someone bitter and nasty and turn to a life of crime. A shitty childhood may make someone want to be better and they become a successful kind adult. " Experiences, attachment, influences, disadvantage, predispositions, assistance you've had along the way... And more. | |||
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"There's a lot of information available on the subject. Google is a good place if you're looking for general rather than personal stories." There's a lot of research on the topic for obvious reasons | |||
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"There's a lot of information available on the subject. Google is a good place if you're looking for general rather than personal stories." Yes but things off google is often copy written and cannot be used in publications without getting consent from whoever has written it. | |||
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"How would you describe this and how much truth is in it? I think it is true. All life experiences affect future behaviour. The same life experience affects different people in different ways though. A shitty childhood may make someone bitter and nasty and turn to a life of crime. A shitty childhood may make someone want to be better and they become a successful kind adult. " This is very true! The trilogy of a child called it dave peltzer what that boy went through and became a well balanced adult is amazing! X | |||
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"There's a lot of information available on the subject. Google is a good place if you're looking for general rather than personal stories. Yes but things off google is often copy written and cannot be used in publications without getting consent from whoever has written it. " You can cite sources in the usual way. | |||
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"I actually think this is way too huge a topic to be included as a section of a book. " Agreed. This seems beyond the scope | |||
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"How would you describe this and how much truth is in it? I think it is true. All life experiences affect future behaviour. The same life experience affects different people in different ways though. A shitty childhood may make someone bitter and nasty and turn to a life of crime. A shitty childhood may make someone want to be better and they become a successful kind adult. " Perfectly put. | |||
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"I actually think this is way too huge a topic to be included as a section of a book. Agreed. This seems beyond the scope" Trouble is, there are whole books dedicated to this subject, it’s so complex isn’t it. | |||
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"I actually think this is way too huge a topic to be included as a section of a book. Agreed. This seems beyond the scope Trouble is, there are whole books dedicated to this subject, it’s so complex isn’t it." Definitely. All these issues are enormously complicated | |||
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"There's a lot of information available on the subject. Google is a good place if you're looking for general rather than personal stories. Yes but things off google is often copy written and cannot be used in publications without getting consent from whoever has written it. " Surely you're going to take whatever you are researching and use your own thoughts on it though, rather than using the actual material you research from? As long as you cite your source you are fine to refer to them. And as long as you aren't plagiarising, if you contact the author of the source they are likely to allow you to quote their work in order to discuss it in your own publication. | |||
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"Phillip Larkin said this better than anyone: They fuck you up, your mum and dad. They may not mean to, but they do. They fill you with the faults they had And add some extra, just for you. But they were fucked up in their turn By fools in old-style hats and coats, Who half the time were soppy-stern And half at one another’s throats. Man hands on misery to man. It deepens like a coastal shelf. Get out as early as you can, And don’t have any kids yourself." I like this. Breaking the cycle is the best thing you can try and do for your own kids if you have them. | |||
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"Phillip Larkin said this better than anyone: They fuck you up, your mum and dad. They may not mean to, but they do. They fill you with the faults they had And add some extra, just for you. But they were fucked up in their turn By fools in old-style hats and coats, Who half the time were soppy-stern And half at one another’s throats. Man hands on misery to man. It deepens like a coastal shelf. Get out as early as you can, And don’t have any kids yourself. I like this. Breaking the cycle is the best thing you can try and do for your own kids if you have them. " Agreed ![]() | |||
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"Phillip Larkin said this better than anyone: They fuck you up, your mum and dad. They may not mean to, but they do. They fill you with the faults they had And add some extra, just for you. But they were fucked up in their turn By fools in old-style hats and coats, Who half the time were soppy-stern And half at one another’s throats. Man hands on misery to man. It deepens like a coastal shelf. Get out as early as you can, And don’t have any kids yourself. I like this. Breaking the cycle is the best thing you can try and do for your own kids if you have them. Agreed ![]() My childhood was okay but I like to think my son's was better | |||
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"Phillip Larkin said this better than anyone: They fuck you up, your mum and dad. They may not mean to, but they do. They fill you with the faults they had And add some extra, just for you. But they were fucked up in their turn By fools in old-style hats and coats, Who half the time were soppy-stern And half at one another’s throats. Man hands on misery to man. It deepens like a coastal shelf. Get out as early as you can, And don’t have any kids yourself. I like this. Breaking the cycle is the best thing you can try and do for your own kids if you have them. " I really like this poem. I always think you can interpret it according to your own experiences. But it also makes you realise that no matter how hard you try you're going to get it wrong with your own kids in some ways. | |||
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"I actually think this is way too huge a topic to be included as a section of a book. Agreed. This seems beyond the scope Trouble is, there are whole books dedicated to this subject, it’s so complex isn’t it." Exactly. There already are 100’s of books dedicated to this subject. My own sister is a clinical psychologist and behavioural analyst, if I wanted an in-depth discussion about it I would seek the advice from a professional. Professional people with a good understanding of psychology would already know the affects of childhood on your adult life. I wanted basic examples. To keep it brief. Some readers may be clingy and have trouble with rejection or abandonment issues but not know where they’ve come from. If I briefly say what the impact could be from not having a mother or father they could identify those behaviours. Know that there isn’t anything wrong with them after all and then when they know the source of the problem they can research it fully. Other chapters of my book will cover things to do that can help with childhood trauma. I’m not qualified to give people professional advice. I can only talk about things the same as if I were talking to my friends. | |||
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"Phillip Larkin said this better than anyone: They fuck you up, your mum and dad. They may not mean to, but they do. They fill you with the faults they had And add some extra, just for you. But they were fucked up in their turn By fools in old-style hats and coats, Who half the time were soppy-stern And half at one another’s throats. Man hands on misery to man. It deepens like a coastal shelf. Get out as early as you can, And don’t have any kids yourself. I like this. Breaking the cycle is the best thing you can try and do for your own kids if you have them. I really like this poem. I always think you can interpret it according to your own experiences. But it also makes you realise that no matter how hard you try you're going to get it wrong with your own kids in some ways. " Absolutely, and the things you think are best for them, they still think you probably are a bit evil and choose the wrong thing. No win ![]() | |||
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"Phillip Larkin said this better than anyone: They fuck you up, your mum and dad. They may not mean to, but they do. They fill you with the faults they had And add some extra, just for you. But they were fucked up in their turn By fools in old-style hats and coats, Who half the time were soppy-stern And half at one another’s throats. Man hands on misery to man. It deepens like a coastal shelf. Get out as early as you can, And don’t have any kids yourself. I like this. Breaking the cycle is the best thing you can try and do for your own kids if you have them. I really like this poem. I always think you can interpret it according to your own experiences. But it also makes you realise that no matter how hard you try you're going to get it wrong with your own kids in some ways. Absolutely, and the things you think are best for them, they still think you probably are a bit evil and choose the wrong thing. No win ![]() Yep. I think we're lucky to get out of childhood and parenthood with minimal damage. | |||
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