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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Just wondering what your experience, opinions are on steroids?

Has anyone used them? As a women would you not meet someone who did?

Personally I would never touch them, but not problem others using them as long as they don't claim to be natural on social media etc.

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS
over a year ago

London

I have a friend who used to take them for his gym session for about a year.

Not an athlete, just ordinary guy but only for a year.

You won't know unless you asked or they are extra-ordinarily muscular.

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By *orthensoleMan
over a year ago

Houghton le spring

Absolute minefield when it comes to advise out there and a even bigger one for using them, you really have to trust your source there is a lot of fakes out there.

Steroids are not a short cut or a Miracle drug, they do not make you lose weight

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Absolute minefield when it comes to advise out there and a even bigger one for using them, you really have to trust your source there is a lot of fakes out there.

Steroids are not a short cut or a Miracle drug, they do not make you lose weight"

Talking from experience!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A lot of wrestlers used to take them not so much now though.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

Going going...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Given the reaction some ‘ripped’ men on here have to rejection I’d say roid rage is a thing to watch out for.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't take any type of supplements and I eat only one meal a day. Most times I eat low carb. Personally since switching to one meal a day, I lift more, feel fitter, did my personal best.

But my body is a bit weird tbh but yea I'm 100% natural and very proud of that tbh.

I tend to do a HIIT workout before my weight session and I do about 6-8 exercises with weights and then 3 exercises for my abs.

It's a long workout tbh and I do it about 4 times a week a different body part each day.

But I've seen the benefits of it tbh. I'm happy to give fitness tips etc.

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By *lbinoGorillaMan
over a year ago

Redditch

From the thread title I thought this was a discussion about piles....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd only take steroids if I was going to compete...apart from that the risks are too high

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"From the thread title I thought this was a discussion about piles.... "

Phew not just me then !

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

Wouldn't touch a steroid user with a bargepole. God knows what infections could come out of injecting a dr*g or where the stuff actually comes from. It's an absolute no from me.

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville


"From the thread title I thought this was a discussion about piles....

Phew not just me then !"

I guess the thread is about anabolic steroids, and not corticosteroids...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A lot of my friends who compete take gear. I don’t have a problem with it, just make sure you know what you’re doing.

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville


"I'd only take steroids if I was going to compete...apart from that the risks are too high"

Wouldn't that be classed as cheating?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"From the thread title I thought this was a discussion about piles....

Phew not just me then !

I guess the thread is about anabolic steroids, and not corticosteroids..."

It may well be but at least 2 of us thought it was about hemaroids!

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By *addyBabygirl2020Couple
over a year ago

norwich


"I don't take any type of supplements and I eat only one meal a day. Most times I eat low carb. Personally since switching to one meal a day, I lift more, feel fitter, did my personal best.

But my body is a bit weird tbh but yea I'm 100% natural and very proud of that tbh.

I tend to do a HIIT workout before my weight session and I do about 6-8 exercises with weights and then 3 exercises for my abs.

It's a long workout tbh and I do it about 4 times a week a different body part each day.

But I've seen the benefits of it tbh. I'm happy to give fitness tips etc. "

Your hard work shows! Looking good.

I bet you get accused of using steroids by guys not willing to put the work in that you do?

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By *addyBabygirl2020Couple
over a year ago

norwich


"I'd only take steroids if I was going to compete...apart from that the risks are too high

Wouldn't that be classed as cheating?"

I also take steroids to compete in strength sports. I compete in a non tested division so i only compete agaisnt other steroid users.

Theres is a tested division for those who wish to compete naturally.

Saves a lot of the cheating in other sports when you allow guys to do it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'd only take steroids if I was going to compete...apart from that the risks are too high

Wouldn't that be classed as cheating?"

Not in a bodybuilding competition, I wasn't referring to sports like football or rugby where it is forbidden

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My ex partner, as I eventually found out, was a steroid user. Hence why he's my ex. He became someone I just didn't know in the end. The moods and the temper were so bad, I had to walk away and heal....in more ways than 1. Yes, the body of a total Adonis but his attitude and manner were that of Satan. Sad, as he was a beautiful soul inside and out, but he changed dreadfully

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"From the thread title I thought this was a discussion about piles....

Phew not just me then !"

Leaves disappointed

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

I am natural and I dont take it, cos the consequences of the use comes further down the line too.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"From the thread title I thought this was a discussion about piles....

Phew not just me then !

Leaves disappointed "

What a pain in the arse!

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By *inklersMan
over a year ago

norwich


"I don't take any type of supplements and I eat only one meal a day. Most times I eat low carb. Personally since switching to one meal a day, I lift more, feel fitter, did my personal best.

But my body is a bit weird tbh but yea I'm 100% natural and very proud of that tbh.

I tend to do a HIIT workout before my weight session and I do about 6-8 exercises with weights and then 3 exercises for my abs.

It's a long workout tbh and I do it about 4 times a week a different body part each day.

But I've seen the benefits of it tbh. I'm happy to give fitness tips etc. "

What kind of meal do you eat once a day to build muscle and how many calories ? Just asking as I struggle to bulk up eating three

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By *addyBabygirl2020Couple
over a year ago

norwich


"I don't take any type of supplements and I eat only one meal a day. Most times I eat low carb. Personally since switching to one meal a day, I lift more, feel fitter, did my personal best.

But my body is a bit weird tbh but yea I'm 100% natural and very proud of that tbh.

I tend to do a HIIT workout before my weight session and I do about 6-8 exercises with weights and then 3 exercises for my abs.

It's a long workout tbh and I do it about 4 times a week a different body part each day.

But I've seen the benefits of it tbh. I'm happy to give fitness tips etc.

What kind of meal do you eat once a day to build muscle and how many calories ? Just asking as I struggle to bulk up eating three"

Bulking just involves eating a lot more than maintenance calories.

Eating to bulk takes a lot of work. Big calories, getting your macros right and training hard and heavy.

Hire a coach and dietitian with proven track records of working with natural guys.

Be the best money you ever spent if you're willing to put in the work.

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By *inklersMan
over a year ago

norwich

Thanks for the response - I was more interest in how you can get enough calories in one meal and manage to eat it in one go

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Thanks for the response - I was more interest in how you can get enough calories in one meal and manage to eat it in one go "

I'm assuming he's cutting. So trying to go lean, one meal, low carbs, high protein.

I would say that skinny people tend to overestimate how much they eat, and fat people the opposite. Good starting point would be to keep track of calories and macros and go from there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"From the thread title I thought this was a discussion about piles....

Phew not just me then !

I guess the thread is about anabolic steroids, and not corticosteroids..."

Toilet wipes are good

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By *ackdaw52Man
over a year ago

Chesterfield

Considered it very briefly...but after watching my friend lose most of his hair at 25, no thanks. Also, I need to be able to keep a level head in my job, can't afford roid rage.

I took protein powders for about a year but it had no effect whatsoever! So I just stick to a sensible diet now.

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By *peak and SpellCouple
over a year ago

Greenwich, SE LONDON

Hubby has never taken anything except cod liver oil and vits.

Much healthier that way. Plus that way his body is all his own work!

He said he wouldn't touch protein powder (marketing gimmick) let alone steroids (with all the associated side-effects)

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport


"From the thread title I thought this was a discussion about piles....

Phew not just me then !

I guess the thread is about anabolic steroids, and not corticosteroids...

Toilet wipes are good"

A bidet is better...

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By *ang bang bangity bangCouple
over a year ago

Sunderland

My two cents on this.

Like one of the other posters I competed in strength sports for a long time that were untested and it was very common. Verging on universal.

The roid rage, I honestly don't believe. The guys who were assholes on steroids were assholes before they started taking it and some of them just used gear as an excuse to act like an even bigger asshole. There are of course exceptions to this.

People also use the term steroid as a catch all but its a huge area covering a lot of things. From incredibly well researched things like testosterone replacement through to odd ball stuff coming out of labs in China. The level of risk and side effects come down to what you use and how you use it.

This brings me on to my next point which is the difference between steroid use and steroid abuse. Drinking 2 bottles of tesco own brand vodka a day is not the same as a glass of wine with dinner. Sticking your arse full of needles once a day is not yhe same as a weekly low dose of test.

I'm vaguely shocked at the amount of young people who take gear to look big. It has become incredibly common in late teens and early 20s guys who want to be gym big. Which is mind boggling to me as you will never be more naturally disposed to adding muscle as you will then.

I'm neither for nor against them myself. I never took anything either during or after competing but that wasn't for any moral or health reasons. I'm just terrified of needles and the thought of weekly injections makes me feel faint

Bigger Faster Stronger is a very interesting, albeit dated documentary on the subject. On netflix I think

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By *hilloutMan
over a year ago

All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest


"My two cents on this.

Like one of the other posters I competed in strength sports for a long time that were untested and it was very common. Verging on universal.

The roid rage, I honestly don't believe. The guys who were assholes on steroids were assholes before they started taking it and some of them just used gear as an excuse to act like an even bigger asshole. There are of course exceptions to this.

People also use the term steroid as a catch all but its a huge area covering a lot of things. From incredibly well researched things like testosterone replacement through to odd ball stuff coming out of labs in China. The level of risk and side effects come down to what you use and how you use it.

This brings me on to my next point which is the difference between steroid use and steroid abuse. Drinking 2 bottles of tesco own brand vodka a day is not the same as a glass of wine with dinner. Sticking your arse full of needles once a day is not yhe same as a weekly low dose of test.

I'm vaguely shocked at the amount of young people who take gear to look big. It has become incredibly common in late teens and early 20s guys who want to be gym big. Which is mind boggling to me as you will never be more naturally disposed to adding muscle as you will then.

I'm neither for nor against them myself. I never took anything either during or after competing but that wasn't for any moral or health reasons. I'm just terrified of needles and the thought of weekly injections makes me feel faint

Bigger Faster Stronger is a very interesting, albeit dated documentary on the subject. On netflix I think "

Apparently rampant steroid use among young men in Wales is so bad that the NHS actually discussed this and it made the news. It would seem social media exerts a lot of pressure into "looking" a certain way to be attractive

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By *ountry Boy FreshMan
over a year ago

Huddersfield


"Just wondering what your experience, opinions are on steroids?

Has anyone used them? As a women would you not meet someone who did?

Personally I would never touch them, but not problem others using them as long as they don't claim to be natural on social media etc. "

Roid rave is the big one and tiny testicles is the smaller one. No personal experience I just read a lot.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I used to work with someone who has taken them for years and still does, but because of them has to take other drugs for the side effects and has had multiple heart operations. And is on that much warfarin to thin the blood, that he can bleed out a hell of a lot from the smallest of cuts.

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By *ang bang bangity bangCouple
over a year ago

Sunderland


"My two cents on this.

Like one of the other posters I competed in strength sports for a long time that were untested and it was very common. Verging on universal.

The roid rage, I honestly don't believe. The guys who were assholes on steroids were assholes before they started taking it and some of them just used gear as an excuse to act like an even bigger asshole. There are of course exceptions to this.

People also use the term steroid as a catch all but its a huge area covering a lot of things. From incredibly well researched things like testosterone replacement through to odd ball stuff coming out of labs in China. The level of risk and side effects come down to what you use and how you use it.

This brings me on to my next point which is the difference between steroid use and steroid abuse. Drinking 2 bottles of tesco own brand vodka a day is not the same as a glass of wine with dinner. Sticking your arse full of needles once a day is not yhe same as a weekly low dose of test.

I'm vaguely shocked at the amount of young people who take gear to look big. It has become incredibly common in late teens and early 20s guys who want to be gym big. Which is mind boggling to me as you will never be more naturally disposed to adding muscle as you will then.

I'm neither for nor against them myself. I never took anything either during or after competing but that wasn't for any moral or health reasons. I'm just terrified of needles and the thought of weekly injections makes me feel faint

Bigger Faster Stronger is a very interesting, albeit dated documentary on the subject. On netflix I think

Apparently rampant steroid use among young men in Wales is so bad that the NHS actually discussed this and it made the news. It would seem social media exerts a lot of pressure into "looking" a certain way to be attractive "

I've heard very similar. I've lost count off how many younger lads have asked me how I put on so much muscle. Good genes and lift weights for 20 years is rarely the answer they want

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By *ang bang bangity bangCouple
over a year ago

Sunderland


"I used to work with someone who has taken them for years and still does, but because of them has to take other drugs for the side effects and has had multiple heart operations. And is on that much warfarin to thin the blood, that he can bleed out a hell of a lot from the smallest of cuts. "

I know a depressing amount of guys (and girls) who have done similar and absolutely ruined their health.

But then I also know guys in their 60s that have been taking steady and sensible doses for donkeys years and are in great shape.

I suspect a lot of it is down to luck of the draw with genetics as well. I'm sure we all know of people who pickled themselves with alcohol for years and suffered no I'll effects when they dried up, while others would have dropped dead in half the time. Same with food, lifestyle, everything.

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By *igmaMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire


"Just wondering what your experience, opinions are on steroids?

Has anyone used them? As a women would you not meet someone who did?

Personally I would never touch them, but not problem others using them as long as they don't claim to be natural on social media etc.

Roid rave is the big one and tiny testicles is the smaller one. No personal experience I just read a lot. "

Roid Rave

The Acid House alternative no one talks abouts

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS
over a year ago

London

I'm glad this thread have more input now as I might gain opinion from all of your experience.

I was quite surprised at the incidence of testicular cancers amongst athletes.

I have suspicion that they are on steroids or other PED. However they are never tested positives (or declared as one). But on the other side, I also heard about all these micro-dosing that prevent detection.

I also in an opinion that almost all competitive athletes (athletics, swimming etc) are actually on a level playing field (all are taking PED or blood doping wink wink).

Would love to have opinion on these.

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By *ang bang bangity bangCouple
over a year ago

Sunderland


"I'm glad this thread have more input now as I might gain opinion from all of your experience.

I was quite surprised at the incidence of testicular cancers amongst athletes.

I have suspicion that they are on steroids or other PED. However they are never tested positives (or declared as one). But on the other side, I also heard about all these micro-dosing that prevent detection.

I also in an opinion that almost all competitive athletes (athletics, swimming etc) are actually on a level playing field (all are taking PED or blood doping wink wink).

Would love to have opinion on these. "

Not sure if you've seen it but Icarus on Netflix about the Russian athlete state sponsored doping is absolutely fascinating.

And I agree with you, I think mot athletes at Olympic level are or have been on something. I'm sure people will shout and say "oh but athlete X would never do that"

Not heard of micro dosing PEDs. I have heard that a huge amount of passing drugs tests is purely down to basic timing and planning around events etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is a whole lot of misinformation in this thread.

Taking steroids is perfectly ok and healthy if you are taking them to keep at a normal level of that hormone.

Women are given steroids when they under go HRT. There are a growing number of men discovering they need HRT but the attitudes of all steroids are for junkies is not only incorrect but also damaging to the point that the NHS themselves are worried about treating a verified low level of testosterone.

There is a world of difference between someone prescribed a steroid by a doctor and monitored to keep it within normal physiological levels than someone buying steroids from a guy in the gym and injecting themselves without knowing proper protocols or healthy levels.

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS
over a year ago

London


"

Not sure if you've seen it but Icarus on Netflix about the Russian athlete state sponsored doping is absolutely fascinating.

And I agree with you, I think mot athletes at Olympic level are or have been on something. I'm sure people will shout and say "oh but athlete X would never do that"

Not heard of micro dosing PEDs. I have heard that a huge amount of passing drugs tests is purely down to basic timing and planning around events etc"

That is actually what fascinates me.

The accusation (which I don't doubt is true) on the Russian athletes and of course of what happened in the GDR back in the 70s and 80s.

As I said, to me it is a level playing field as I believe that the use of PED is actually very common in the non-Russia countries as well (US, Europe, Asia, Australia etc). The only difference is that it is not state sponsored but under their own clubs or individual initiatives (eg Nike) which I think is a worse cheater than a state sponsored one.

The banning of the Russian athletes to the Olympics is, to me, just a political move.

Micro-dosing has been around for quite some time. But my knowledge of it is extremely limited.

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By *ang bang bangity bangCouple
over a year ago

Sunderland


"

Not sure if you've seen it but Icarus on Netflix about the Russian athlete state sponsored doping is absolutely fascinating.

And I agree with you, I think mot athletes at Olympic level are or have been on something. I'm sure people will shout and say "oh but athlete X would never do that"

Not heard of micro dosing PEDs. I have heard that a huge amount of passing drugs tests is purely down to basic timing and planning around events etc

That is actually what fascinates me.

The accusation (which I don't doubt is true) on the Russian athletes and of course of what happened in the GDR back in the 70s and 80s.

As I said, to me it is a level playing field as I believe that the use of PED is actually very common in the non-Russia countries as well (US, Europe, Asia, Australia etc). The only difference is that it is not state sponsored but under their own clubs or individual initiatives (eg Nike) which I think is a worse cheater than a state sponsored one.

The banning of the Russian athletes to the Olympics is, to me, just a political move.

Micro-dosing has been around for quite some time. But my knowledge of it is extremely limited."

There is an argument that drug testing actually hinders poorer countries disproportionately.

As testing gets better the People and compounds needed to beat the tests get better and more expensive. So wealthier first world countries (or state sponsored 2nd or 3rd world nations) end up getting ahead of other nations that can't afford the costs.

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

A friend of mine that I was in the military with, died due to steroid use.

He suffered a massive heart attack during a training session.

His wife runs a blog waring others on the dangers of using unprescribed steroids.

Seriously think about what you are injecting into your body.

Your loved one's don't care how big or built you are.

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS
over a year ago

London


"A friend of mine that I was in the military with, died due to steroid use.

He suffered a massive heart attack during a training session.

His wife runs a blog waring others on the dangers of using unprescribed steroids.

Seriously think about what you are injecting into your body.

Your loved one's don't care how big or built you are."

Yes, the incidences of sudden death of athletes as well.

Although it can be due to over-training (over-loading the heart eg Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy) but the over-training itself could be due to PED use which allows faster recovery and thus more intense training.

.

That is why I think the subject raised by OP is interesting, at how common PED is - even at non-athletes level.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"I'd only take steroids if I was going to compete...apart from that the risks are too high

Wouldn't that be classed as cheating?

I also take steroids to compete in strength sports. I compete in a non tested division so i only compete agaisnt other steroid users.

Theres is a tested division for those who wish to compete naturally.

Saves a lot of the cheating in other sports when you allow guys to do it."

Do you count peptides and GH as steroids?

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS
over a year ago

London


"

There is an argument that drug testing actually hinders poorer countries disproportionately.

As testing gets better the People and compounds needed to beat the tests get better and more expensive. So wealthier first world countries (or state sponsored 2nd or 3rd world nations) end up getting ahead of other nations that can't afford the costs. "

And how WADA and IOC actually are covering some of the positive results.

I recently watched on you tube a documentary on how rampant the use of PED is in sports. Will put the link here once I found it again.

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By *mooth Operator 07Man
over a year ago

in the deep mist of the valleys


"My two cents on this.

Like one of the other posters I competed in strength sports for a long time that were untested and it was very common. Verging on universal.

The roid rage, I honestly don't believe. The guys who were assholes on steroids were assholes before they started taking it and some of them just used gear as an excuse to act like an even bigger asshole. There are of course exceptions to this.

People also use the term steroid as a catch all but its a huge area covering a lot of things. From incredibly well researched things like testosterone replacement through to odd ball stuff coming out of labs in China. The level of risk and side effects come down to what you use and how you use it.

This brings me on to my next point which is the difference between steroid use and steroid abuse. Drinking 2 bottles of tesco own brand vodka a day is not the same as a glass of wine with dinner. Sticking your arse full of needles once a day is not yhe same as a weekly low dose of test.

I'm vaguely shocked at the amount of young people who take gear to look big. It has become incredibly common in late teens and early 20s guys who want to be gym big. Which is mind boggling to me as you will never be more naturally disposed to adding muscle as you will then.

I'm neither for nor against them myself. I never took anything either during or after competing but that wasn't for any moral or health reasons. I'm just terrified of needles and the thought of weekly injections makes me feel faint

Bigger Faster Stronger is a very interesting, albeit dated documentary on the subject. On netflix I think

Apparently rampant steroid use among young men in Wales is so bad that the NHS actually discussed this and it made the news. It would seem social media exerts a lot of pressure into "looking" a certain way to be attractive "

You're spot on, there was a documentary in Wales of young men taking steroids to increase muscle. Unfortunately the majority of the individuals taking steroids were using it fot vanity reasons, such as being a male stripper. The consequences of using steroids were significantly high, mood swings, mental health etc. Personally for me, stick to good food, rest and train properly.

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS
over a year ago

London


"

Do you count peptides and GH as steroids? "

In my opinion, peptides and GH are proteins and hormone.

They are not steroid but GH can be one of PED (performance enhancing drugs).

The US accused italian athletes are on GH back in the early 2000

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"

Do you count peptides and GH as steroids?

In my opinion, peptides and GH are proteins and hormone.

They are not steroid but GH can be one of PED (performance enhancing drugs).

The US accused italian athletes are on GH back in the early 2000

"

What about peptides that encourage release of gh ?

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS
over a year ago

London


"

Do you count peptides and GH as steroids?

In my opinion, peptides and GH are proteins and hormone.

They are not steroid but GH can be one of PED (performance enhancing drugs).

The US accused italian athletes are on GH back in the early 2000

What about peptides that encourage release of gh ? "

It can be PED.

WADA has a list of drugs that are considered as PED but how to obtain the list I'm not sure.

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


"A friend of mine that I was in the military with, died due to steroid use.

He suffered a massive heart attack during a training session.

His wife runs a blog waring others on the dangers of using unprescribed steroids.

Seriously think about what you are injecting into your body.

Your loved one's don't care how big or built you are.

Yes, the incidences of sudden death of athletes as well.

Although it can be due to over-training (over-loading the heart eg Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy) but the over-training itself could be due to PED use which allows faster recovery and thus more intense training.

.

That is why I think the subject raised by OP is interesting, at how common PED is - even at non-athletes level."

The coroner report stated there was high levels of a particular steroid in his system which induced the attack.

The steroids were sourced from Thailand if I remember right.

I don't know the technical terminology or what the drug was, but there is detailed description on his wife's blog.

He was the fittest guy in our battalion and a PTI.

Physical excellence was his goal, however he paid the ultimate price.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've used them. Not used them wouldnt rule out using them again.

I use the gym for my own mental health and have body dismorphia. So I will use whatever tools are at my disposal to make myself feel happier with the way I look. It has nothing to do with how I want anyone else to perceive me.

They can be a bad thing, like anything. I know the risks involved. But my own personal feeling of worth are more important than any other.

I've had friends with bad experiences and health issues because of them. But it's up to the individual as always.

J

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By *uliaChrisCouple
over a year ago

westerham


"My two cents on this.

Like one of the other posters I competed in strength sports for a long time that were untested and it was very common. Verging on universal.

The roid rage, I honestly don't believe. The guys who were assholes on steroids were assholes before they started taking it and some of them just used gear as an excuse to act like an even bigger asshole. There are of course exceptions to this.

People also use the term steroid as a catch all but its a huge area covering a lot of things. From incredibly well researched things like testosterone replacement through to odd ball stuff coming out of labs in China. The level of risk and side effects come down to what you use and how you use it.

This brings me on to my next point which is the difference between steroid use and steroid abuse. Drinking 2 bottles of tesco own brand vodka a day is not the same as a glass of wine with dinner. Sticking your arse full of needles once a day is not yhe same as a weekly low dose of test.

I'm vaguely shocked at the amount of young people who take gear to look big. It has become incredibly common in late teens and early 20s guys who want to be gym big. Which is mind boggling to me as you will never be more naturally disposed to adding muscle as you will then.

I'm neither for nor against them myself. I never took anything either during or after competing but that wasn't for any moral or health reasons. I'm just terrified of needles and the thought of weekly injections makes me feel faint

Bigger Faster Stronger is a very interesting, albeit dated documentary on the subject. On netflix I think "

Agree with all this, and it’s a good sad documentary. I’ve never taken them.

What I also see with the young kids, early twenties and maybe younger, is that they are totally uneducated on the use of steroids, they mostly don’t cycle their use or do any post cycle therapy, etc etc.

They are certainly not having blood work or anything like that done either,

What I’m saying is the media will always say “steroids bad” but it’s a bit like judging someone who only eats pizza and drinks all day every day.

Everything in moderation, and done “properly” for the vast majority of people (gym goers) steroids are not a significant health risk. But in the UK the vast majority of users don’t do it “properly”.

The cosmetic side effects of hair loss and bad skin are however pretty common (depending on exactly what taken, dosage etc).

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By *nked_kittenWoman
over a year ago

Ankh Morpork

I met someone from here that took a lot of steroids and it affected him sexually and he struggled.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"

What I also see with the young kids, early twenties and maybe younger, is that they are totally uneducated on the use of steroids, they mostly don’t cycle their use or do any post cycle therapy, etc etc.

They are certainly not having blood work or anything like that done either. "

Unless you can afford private GP it’s really hard to get proper advice. The nhs and schools certainly won’t offer any help ! We teach our kids how to safely do recreational drugs but not PED for sports or Nootropics for exams so they use google...

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I've been around men in the gym.and competitive arena for years and admire the huge dedication and hard work that they all invest. There is no lazy option.

My concern is for those who have acquired body image issues, including lack of confidence, that discourage people to accept and enjoy themselves as well as to participate in exercise, however they look and feel. I can appreciate very big muscles, enjoy the power that a man physically has sexually. I don't care how a man has got to be how he is today, I'd like him to be happy. We all have a past and what matters is just now. The biggest men I've known have been amongst the loveliest personalities, as caring and sensitive as the next guy. We don't need to put others down, we'll not know what has driven people to become how they are. If they are happy, I'm happy to enjoy the fruits of their labours. Cleaner eating is something that they have all invested time into, that's highly commendable.

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By *ob Carpe DiemMan
over a year ago

Torquay


"From the thread title I thought this was a discussion about piles....

Phew not just me then !"

Hey why not hijack it, I'll contribute

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

personally id never take anything that i didnt know fully about.

i was tested for years when testing motorbikes so couldnt even have a energy drink as most of them were considered a banned stimulant.

the drug testers would turn up at any hour of any day and i would always have to let them know in advance if i was going somewhere.

ive known bodybuilders on them including some women and its their choice but i wouldnt take anything bought over the internet because you just dont know what the hell it could be.

the only protein powder i was allowed to take was maximuscle. anything else was considered banned.

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By *aomilatteCouple
over a year ago

Midlands


"Just wondering what your experience, opinions are on steroids?

Has anyone used them? As a women would you not meet someone who did?

Personally I would never touch them, but not problem others using them as long as they don't claim to be natural on social media etc. "

No we wouldn't meet someone who takes them. If people want to take them fine, but we wouldn't be playing.

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

Shrivelled balls baldness breast growth in men struggle to get a fatty on acne nah not for me and don’t forget the rage

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't use steroids

Inject Estrogen into your testicals instead

you should see the results

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Don't use steroids

Inject Estrogen into your testicals instead

you should see the results "

But estrogen is a steroid...

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Don't use steroids

Inject Estrogen into your testicals instead

you should see the results

But estrogen is a steroid..."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just wondering what your experience, opinions are on steroids?

Has anyone used them? As a women would you not meet someone who did?

Personally I would never touch them, but not problem others using them as long as they don't claim to be natural on social media etc.

No we wouldn't meet someone who takes them. If people want to take them fine, but we wouldn't be playing."

So you wouldnt meet any women on HRT?

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By *ent in BlackMan
over a year ago

Silsden


"Just wondering what your experience, opinions are on steroids?

Has anyone used them? As a women would you not meet someone who did?

Personally I would never touch them, but not problem others using them as long as they don't claim to be natural on social media etc. "

Don’t do it, I did when I was in my late teens/early twenties. I’m paying for it now in my early forties with all sorts of medical bits and bats.

It’s also a minefield unless you know someone who can help you. The stacks can be complicated and you need to pay extra special attention to your diet.

My best advice (from experience) when gyms re-open pay got a few personal trainer sessions and get them to give you some diet plans.

Steroids should really only be considered when you’ve reached your bodies own potential. Learn from my mistakes mate.

Whilst I looked great I’m regretting it now.

I still do train a bit now, but nowhere like I used to do.

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