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"Being overly positive can be just as toxic. I like well balanced individuals. Braking down on the motorway-negative Good looking AA man- positive Not actually being a member of the AA-negative Being rescued by a friend-positive Having to wait a long time-negative Being taken to kfc afterwards- positive Having to shout for the kfc-negative Overall- neutral experience. All about balance " I like this Sometimes life needs to be taken seriously. Sometimes you laugh in spite of it all. | |||
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"Do they actually thrive on being miserable and negative all the while. I knew a man once who was so negative and hatred towards the world im convinced it killed him. He was fit healthy and active and just died one day aged 72 im sure hatred killed him" That's not fair, Ray Clemence was by all accounts a really nice guy | |||
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"Do they actually thrive on being miserable and negative all the while. I knew a man once who was so negative and hatred towards the world im convinced it killed him. He was fit healthy and active and just died one day aged 72 im sure hatred killed him" i kmow this for a fact that stress will send you to an early grave and someone like him would have been stressed 24/7. My bother is the same and I keep telling him to chill out | |||
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"Being overly positive can be just as toxic. I like well balanced individuals. Braking down on the motorway-negative Good looking AA man- positive Not actually being a member of the AA-negative Being rescued by a friend-positive Having to wait a long time-negative Being taken to kfc afterwards- positive Having to shout for the kfc-negative Overall- neutral experience. All about balance " I thought I was confusing when I read my post back but now I’m totally confused. It’s positive confusion but feels quite neutral. | |||
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"Being overly positive can be just as toxic. I like well balanced individuals. Braking down on the motorway-negative Good looking AA man- positive Not actually being a member of the AA-negative Being rescued by a friend-positive Having to wait a long time-negative Being taken to kfc afterwards- positive Having to shout for the kfc-negative Overall- neutral experience. All about balance I thought I was confusing when I read my post back but now I’m totally confused. It’s positive confusion but feels quite neutral." Would you like some negative confusion to balance it out? | |||
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"Being overly positive can be just as toxic. I like well balanced individuals. Braking down on the motorway-negative Good looking AA man- positive Not actually being a member of the AA-negative Being rescued by a friend-positive Having to wait a long time-negative Being taken to kfc afterwards- positive Having to shout for the kfc-negative Overall- neutral experience. All about balance I thought I was confusing when I read my post back but now I’m totally confused. It’s positive confusion but feels quite neutral. Would you like some negative confusion to balance it out? " I’m too confused to answer. Can I see your heart shaped pubes instead please? | |||
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"Being overly positive can be just as toxic. I like well balanced individuals. Braking down on the motorway-negative Good looking AA man- positive Not actually being a member of the AA-negative Being rescued by a friend-positive Having to wait a long time-negative Being taken to kfc afterwards- positive Having to shout for the kfc-negative Overall- neutral experience. All about balance I thought I was confusing when I read my post back but now I’m totally confused. It’s positive confusion but feels quite neutral. Would you like some negative confusion to balance it out? I’m too confused to answer. Can I see your heart shaped pubes instead please?" Anytime. It’s going to be a star next month. | |||
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"I work with a bloke who never stops moaning, everything’s negative, it’s can be exhausting, I’m sure people get a dopamine hit from moaning, why else would they do it, they simple enjoy it. " the guy i mentioned in the op made my mental health worse i had to cut him out my life | |||
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"Do they actually thrive on being miserable and negative all the while. I knew a man once who was so negative and hatred towards the world im convinced it killed him. He was fit healthy and active and just died one day aged 72 im sure hatred killed him" You should meet my mother, 99 years old, bitter, nasty and has never said or done anything remotely positive or uplifting unless it was about how she was wonderful to her wonderful mother and why couldn't her children be like that. If there is nothing to moan about, she'll create something. | |||
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"Don't the Aussies call us "Whinging Pomms"? Charming! Lol" Poms, but yes | |||
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"Each of us define our own version of ‘happy place’ For most it’s a good place; for others their ‘happy’ is a dark place because its where they feel comfortable.Some people will know no other and it’s what they have adapted to (due to circumstances/illness etc) For those that chose to be negative, just because they can, I give a wide berth. I’m not one for mood hoovers and drama llamas .. " I do love your drama llamas I always picture a llama with a hat on pulling a face | |||
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"Each of us define our own version of ‘happy place’ For most it’s a good place; for others their ‘happy’ is a dark place because its where they feel comfortable.Some people will know no other and it’s what they have adapted to (due to circumstances/illness etc) For those that chose to be negative, just because they can, I give a wide berth. I’m not one for mood hoovers and drama llamas .. I do love your drama llamas I always picture a llama with a hat on pulling a face " That’s the one | |||
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"I am a very positive person but realistic.. I dislike false optimism .. And people who constantly moan.. I dislike people who moan so much that I constantly feel negative towards them" I agree. It’s the same when people just post doom and gloom posts in the forums isn’t it ? | |||
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"I worked with a woman who was consistently negative. She was a very unhappy woman but capable of great kindness. It was a shame because it was impossible to like her " Did you find out why she was so negative? | |||
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"I worked with a woman who was consistently negative. She was a very unhappy woman but capable of great kindness. It was a shame because it was impossible to like her Did you find out why she was so negative?" No. I worked with her for about 15 years. I never saw her genuinely laugh and the only time I saw her smile was when she brought her granddaughter in once. She was rude to people to the extent that other departments avoided her and she could be a bully. | |||
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"I work with a bloke who never stops moaning, everything’s negative, it’s can be exhausting, I’m sure people get a dopamine hit from moaning, why else would they do it, they simple enjoy it. " Hate to burst your smug, self-satisfied bubble, but being trapped in negativity is a miserable, soul-destroying experience, even without having to suffer through your kind. | |||
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"I work with a bloke who never stops moaning, everything’s negative, it’s can be exhausting, I’m sure people get a dopamine hit from moaning, why else would they do it, they simple enjoy it. Hate to burst your smug, self-satisfied bubble, but being trapped in negativity is a miserable, soul-destroying experience, even without having to suffer through your kind." But who’s making you be negative but yourself? | |||
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"I work with a bloke who never stops moaning, everything’s negative, it’s can be exhausting, I’m sure people get a dopamine hit from moaning, why else would they do it, they simple enjoy it. Hate to burst your smug, self-satisfied bubble, but being trapped in negativity is a miserable, soul-destroying experience, even without having to suffer through your kind. But who’s making you be negative but yourself? " Sometimes mental health takes the choice away from us. I imagine it’s a very isolating feeling and my heart goes out to anyone that is trapped in their own negative thoughts like that. | |||
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"I work with a bloke who never stops moaning, everything’s negative, it’s can be exhausting, I’m sure people get a dopamine hit from moaning, why else would they do it, they simple enjoy it. Hate to burst your smug, self-satisfied bubble, but being trapped in negativity is a miserable, soul-destroying experience, even without having to suffer through your kind. But who’s making you be negative but yourself? " There's a fringe theory that a lifetime of social isolation, insults and contempt may have played a role. | |||
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"I work with a bloke who never stops moaning, everything’s negative, it’s can be exhausting, I’m sure people get a dopamine hit from moaning, why else would they do it, they simple enjoy it. Hate to burst your smug, self-satisfied bubble, but being trapped in negativity is a miserable, soul-destroying experience, even without having to suffer through your kind. But who’s making you be negative but yourself? Sometimes mental health takes the choice away from us. I imagine it’s a very isolating feeling and my heart goes out to anyone that is trapped in their own negative thoughts like that. " I don’t agree. I think people can either decide to be positive or negative. It’s a conscious decision. It’s not easy, in fact it’s fucking difficult and it feels so false at first but there’s always a choice in saying something negative or not saying anything or saying something positive. Doesn’t have to be anything major either. | |||
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"I work with a bloke who never stops moaning, everything’s negative, it’s can be exhausting, I’m sure people get a dopamine hit from moaning, why else would they do it, they simple enjoy it. Hate to burst your smug, self-satisfied bubble, but being trapped in negativity is a miserable, soul-destroying experience, even without having to suffer through your kind. But who’s making you be negative but yourself? Sometimes mental health takes the choice away from us. I imagine it’s a very isolating feeling and my heart goes out to anyone that is trapped in their own negative thoughts like that. I don’t agree. I think people can either decide to be positive or negative. It’s a conscious decision. It’s not easy, in fact it’s fucking difficult and it feels so false at first but there’s always a choice in saying something negative or not saying anything or saying something positive. Doesn’t have to be anything major either." i also disagree there are many people on these forums that suffer from a wide range of mental health issues(it comes to light in the mental health threads)but you would never guesd by the way they post | |||
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"Would you tell someone with an obvious physical health problem that they can just decide not to have an amputated limb or a heart attack or pneumonia? So why is it okay to say a person can decide whether they are positive or negative about life, when that outlook may be as a result of a mental health problem? Mental and physical health problems are equally problematic and cannot just be imagined away." the guy my post was about i knew very well he had no mental illness just a hatred for every thing | |||
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"Would you tell someone with an obvious physical health problem that they can just decide not to have an amputated limb or a heart attack or pneumonia? So why is it okay to say a person can decide whether they are positive or negative about life, when that outlook may be as a result of a mental health problem? Mental and physical health problems are equally problematic and cannot just be imagined away." An amputated limb can’t be put back together. You’re implying any mental health issues can’t be solved either. | |||
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"Would you tell someone with an obvious physical health problem that they can just decide not to have an amputated limb or a heart attack or pneumonia? So why is it okay to say a person can decide whether they are positive or negative about life, when that outlook may be as a result of a mental health problem? Mental and physical health problems are equally problematic and cannot just be imagined away.the guy my post was about i knew very well he had no mental illness just a hatred for every thing" That's as maybe, but obviously that's not the case for everyone who comes across as negative and so I think one should take care to recognise, as Jamie said, there are people out there who cannot help it. I have days where I'm horribly negative. Trying not to lose the plot when I am reminded that my acquired disability is permanent - I'm never going to run with my daughter, skip, climb a tree etc. It gets too much. But then I go back to deluding myself that everything is fine and put the mask back on again. Works most of the time, but not always. | |||
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"Would you tell someone with an obvious physical health problem that they can just decide not to have an amputated limb or a heart attack or pneumonia? So why is it okay to say a person can decide whether they are positive or negative about life, when that outlook may be as a result of a mental health problem? Mental and physical health problems are equally problematic and cannot just be imagined away.the guy my post was about i knew very well he had no mental illness just a hatred for every thing That's as maybe, but obviously that's not the case for everyone who comes across as negative and so I think one should take care to recognise, as Jamie said, there are people out there who cannot help it. I have days where I'm horribly negative. Trying not to lose the plot when I am reminded that my acquired disability is permanent - I'm never going to run with my daughter, skip, climb a tree etc. It gets too much. But then I go back to deluding myself that everything is fine and put the mask back on again. Works most of the time, but not always." i have bipolar, anxiety and depression. I lock myself away from the world when things get to bad but i can be quiet ill and still hide behind a mask | |||
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"Would you tell someone with an obvious physical health problem that they can just decide not to have an amputated limb or a heart attack or pneumonia? So why is it okay to say a person can decide whether they are positive or negative about life, when that outlook may be as a result of a mental health problem? Mental and physical health problems are equally problematic and cannot just be imagined away. An amputated limb can’t be put back together. You’re implying any mental health issues can’t be solved either. " If you have a cure for mental health problems, you're doing better than the medical profession. Most "treatments" are simply sticking plasters. Many mental health problems cannot be solved. And even those that can be treated to a greater or lesser extent can only be treated if there's available therapy, which currently is not the case. Waiting lists for talking therapies are through the roof and the longer things go without any help, the worse they get and can become impossible to retrieve. Amputated limbs can be replaced by artificial limbs which give the same overall result of walking etc. They can use mobility equipment like wheelchairs to get around - there's actually more tangible help for a physical impairment like that than most mental health problems. | |||
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"Would you tell someone with an obvious physical health problem that they can just decide not to have an amputated limb or a heart attack or pneumonia? So why is it okay to say a person can decide whether they are positive or negative about life, when that outlook may be as a result of a mental health problem? Mental and physical health problems are equally problematic and cannot just be imagined away.the guy my post was about i knew very well he had no mental illness just a hatred for every thing That's as maybe, but obviously that's not the case for everyone who comes across as negative and so I think one should take care to recognise, as Jamie said, there are people out there who cannot help it. I have days where I'm horribly negative. Trying not to lose the plot when I am reminded that my acquired disability is permanent - I'm never going to run with my daughter, skip, climb a tree etc. It gets too much. But then I go back to deluding myself that everything is fine and put the mask back on again. Works most of the time, but not always." I’ve read your posts and I’m in absolute awe at how positive you come across most of the time. It was only recently that I saw a post where you said more about what you could and couldn’t do. It must be fucking shit for you yet my feelings from your posts are that you are positive in your outlook. I like your posts, they make me smile | |||
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"Would you tell someone with an obvious physical health problem that they can just decide not to have an amputated limb or a heart attack or pneumonia? So why is it okay to say a person can decide whether they are positive or negative about life, when that outlook may be as a result of a mental health problem? Mental and physical health problems are equally problematic and cannot just be imagined away.the guy my post was about i knew very well he had no mental illness just a hatred for every thing That's as maybe, but obviously that's not the case for everyone who comes across as negative and so I think one should take care to recognise, as Jamie said, there are people out there who cannot help it. I have days where I'm horribly negative. Trying not to lose the plot when I am reminded that my acquired disability is permanent - I'm never going to run with my daughter, skip, climb a tree etc. It gets too much. But then I go back to deluding myself that everything is fine and put the mask back on again. Works most of the time, but not always.i have bipolar, anxiety and depression. I lock myself away from the world when things get to bad but i can be quiet ill and still hide behind a mask" It's not a competition about who has the worst MH. Can it be agreed that many apparently negative people may well have mental health problems and that different people cope with these, well, differently? Being negative may well be something they do not enjoy being but cannot help, like someone with Tourette's cannot help verbal outbursts and tics? | |||
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"Would you tell someone with an obvious physical health problem that they can just decide not to have an amputated limb or a heart attack or pneumonia? So why is it okay to say a person can decide whether they are positive or negative about life, when that outlook may be as a result of a mental health problem? Mental and physical health problems are equally problematic and cannot just be imagined away.the guy my post was about i knew very well he had no mental illness just a hatred for every thing That's as maybe, but obviously that's not the case for everyone who comes across as negative and so I think one should take care to recognise, as Jamie said, there are people out there who cannot help it. I have days where I'm horribly negative. Trying not to lose the plot when I am reminded that my acquired disability is permanent - I'm never going to run with my daughter, skip, climb a tree etc. It gets too much. But then I go back to deluding myself that everything is fine and put the mask back on again. Works most of the time, but not always. I’ve read your posts and I’m in absolute awe at how positive you come across most of the time. It was only recently that I saw a post where you said more about what you could and couldn’t do. It must be fucking shit for you yet my feelings from your posts are that you are positive in your outlook. I like your posts, they make me smile " Thank you. Most of the time, I'm fine. I think I've accepted it, just about. But there's often little things that come back and bite me on the arse. Strictly Come Dancing, for example. The daughter loves it - "Mummy can you dance like that lady?" No. I can't. Not anymore. | |||
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"Would you tell someone with an obvious physical health problem that they can just decide not to have an amputated limb or a heart attack or pneumonia? So why is it okay to say a person can decide whether they are positive or negative about life, when that outlook may be as a result of a mental health problem? Mental and physical health problems are equally problematic and cannot just be imagined away.the guy my post was about i knew very well he had no mental illness just a hatred for every thing That's as maybe, but obviously that's not the case for everyone who comes across as negative and so I think one should take care to recognise, as Jamie said, there are people out there who cannot help it. I have days where I'm horribly negative. Trying not to lose the plot when I am reminded that my acquired disability is permanent - I'm never going to run with my daughter, skip, climb a tree etc. It gets too much. But then I go back to deluding myself that everything is fine and put the mask back on again. Works most of the time, but not always.i have bipolar, anxiety and depression. I lock myself away from the world when things get to bad but i can be quiet ill and still hide behind a mask It's not a competition about who has the worst MH. Can it be agreed that many apparently negative people may well have mental health problems and that different people cope with these, well, differently? Being negative may well be something they do not enjoy being but cannot help, like someone with Tourette's cannot help verbal outbursts and tics?" I dont agree. Mental health issues can cause negative personalities i dont disagree with that but theres plenty out there that are just miserable bastards full of doom and gloom. Oh and i wasnt seeing it as a compwtition just making a point im quite offended by that remark | |||
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"Would you tell someone with an obvious physical health problem that they can just decide not to have an amputated limb or a heart attack or pneumonia? So why is it okay to say a person can decide whether they are positive or negative about life, when that outlook may be as a result of a mental health problem? Mental and physical health problems are equally problematic and cannot just be imagined away.the guy my post was about i knew very well he had no mental illness just a hatred for every thing That's as maybe, but obviously that's not the case for everyone who comes across as negative and so I think one should take care to recognise, as Jamie said, there are people out there who cannot help it. I have days where I'm horribly negative. Trying not to lose the plot when I am reminded that my acquired disability is permanent - I'm never going to run with my daughter, skip, climb a tree etc. It gets too much. But then I go back to deluding myself that everything is fine and put the mask back on again. Works most of the time, but not always.i have bipolar, anxiety and depression. I lock myself away from the world when things get to bad but i can be quiet ill and still hide behind a mask It's not a competition about who has the worst MH. Can it be agreed that many apparently negative people may well have mental health problems and that different people cope with these, well, differently? Being negative may well be something they do not enjoy being but cannot help, like someone with Tourette's cannot help verbal outbursts and tics?I dont agree. Mental health issues can cause negative personalities i dont disagree with that but theres plenty out there that are just miserable bastards full of doom and gloom. Oh and i wasnt seeing it as a compwtition just making a point im quite offended by that remark" No offence was intended. I just don't think we can say that because you or I can cope (most of the time) or because we can mask things reasonably well, that we should apply that to others. Too often, we project. We assume that because we can do X, then so can everyone else. Losing my mobility has taught me a lot about assumption. I had no intention of causing offence, Diamond. | |||
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"Would you tell someone with an obvious physical health problem that they can just decide not to have an amputated limb or a heart attack or pneumonia? So why is it okay to say a person can decide whether they are positive or negative about life, when that outlook may be as a result of a mental health problem? Mental and physical health problems are equally problematic and cannot just be imagined away.the guy my post was about i knew very well he had no mental illness just a hatred for every thing That's as maybe, but obviously that's not the case for everyone who comes across as negative and so I think one should take care to recognise, as Jamie said, there are people out there who cannot help it. I have days where I'm horribly negative. Trying not to lose the plot when I am reminded that my acquired disability is permanent - I'm never going to run with my daughter, skip, climb a tree etc. It gets too much. But then I go back to deluding myself that everything is fine and put the mask back on again. Works most of the time, but not always.i have bipolar, anxiety and depression. I lock myself away from the world when things get to bad but i can be quiet ill and still hide behind a mask It's not a competition about who has the worst MH. Can it be agreed that many apparently negative people may well have mental health problems and that different people cope with these, well, differently? Being negative may well be something they do not enjoy being but cannot help, like someone with Tourette's cannot help verbal outbursts and tics?I dont agree. Mental health issues can cause negative personalities i dont disagree with that but theres plenty out there that are just miserable bastards full of doom and gloom. Oh and i wasnt seeing it as a compwtition just making a point im quite offended by that remark No offence was intended. I just don't think we can say that because you or I can cope (most of the time) or because we can mask things reasonably well, that we should apply that to others. Too often, we project. We assume that because we can do X, then so can everyone else. Losing my mobility has taught me a lot about assumption. I had no intention of causing offence, Diamond." but youve turned this thread round to be all about mental illness and not accepting some people are just miserable bastards | |||
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"Diamond, I wasn't the first to point out the issue of MH and negativity, but yes I was the one to push forward on it. I'm sure some people are, in your words, miserable bastards, but I don't think people are born to be unduly miserable. I think it's situational and even cases like Nicecouple mentioned earlier - who's to know what horrible and difficult thing that lady was dealing with behind closed doors. I think there's always a reason for undue negativity and melancholy." Blaming the victim is always easier Nd more enjoyable. | |||
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"I think if someone is like then something or someone bad happened to them. Some people can overcome and others dwell and then it festers and grows until it’s such an uphill battle to overcome whatever it was. But I think proper medical help, Psychological help, can help. They know the right questions to ask to unravel someone. They listen, they don’t judge. " I’m no arse licker but this is very spot on. | |||
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"Pop onto the Virus forum if you want examples of negativity. " Noooo don't go in there! It's a breeding ground for negativity, stupidity and mental health issues I use it as a filter | |||
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"I think if someone is like then something or someone bad happened to them. Some people can overcome and others dwell and then it festers and grows until it’s such an uphill battle to overcome whatever it was. But I think proper medical help, Psychological help, can help. They know the right questions to ask to unravel someone. They listen, they don’t judge. " I think this too. Past experiences may determine how someone reacts to things. I don't think they are being deliberate with their negativity. People who are always exposed to bombings might run and cower for shelter when they hear the celebratory firecrackers/fireworks. | |||
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"Diamond, I wasn't the first to point out the issue of MH and negativity, but yes I was the one to push forward on it. I'm sure some people are, in your words, miserable bastards, but I don't think people are born to be unduly miserable. I think it's situational and even cases like Nicecouple mentioned earlier - who's to know what horrible and difficult thing that lady was dealing with behind closed doors. I think there's always a reason for undue negativity and melancholy." I agree. | |||
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"Some of the saddest people in the world appear happy and carefree. Miserable people just wear their feelings openly. And I still stand by my previous post. If someone is like that then there is a reason. There is always a reason. If you dig deep enough." | |||
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"Some of the saddest people in the world appear happy and carefree. Miserable people just wear their feelings openly. And I still stand by my previous post. If someone is like that then there is a reason. There is always a reason. If you dig deep enough." The question is, how many people are actually willing to have those people around, and how many will shut them out? | |||
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"Some of the saddest people in the world appear happy and carefree. Miserable people just wear their feelings openly. And I still stand by my previous post. If someone is like that then there is a reason. There is always a reason. If you dig deep enough. The question is, how many people are actually willing to have those people around, and how many will shut them out?" ive tried to engage you a couple of times in pm and you werent in the slightest bit interested | |||
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"Some of the saddest people in the world appear happy and carefree. Miserable people just wear their feelings openly. And I still stand by my previous post. If someone is like that then there is a reason. There is always a reason. If you dig deep enough. The question is, how many people are actually willing to have those people around, and how many will shut them out?" Negativity and misery is exhausting and depressing to be around. I hope you're getting the help you need x | |||
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"Some of the saddest people in the world appear happy and carefree. Miserable people just wear their feelings openly. And I still stand by my previous post. If someone is like that then there is a reason. There is always a reason. If you dig deep enough. The question is, how many people are actually willing to have those people around, and how many will shut them out?" the guy in the op i introduced into my life. However it turned into a living nightmare and was detrimental to my health. There for i had to cut ties but i tried god how i tried | |||
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"Some of the saddest people in the world appear happy and carefree. Miserable people just wear their feelings openly. And I still stand by my previous post. If someone is like that then there is a reason. There is always a reason. If you dig deep enough. The question is, how many people are actually willing to have those people around, and how many will shut them out?ive tried to engage you a couple of times in pm and you werent in the slightest bit interested" My message log shows that we had a conversation. I can't say why it died. | |||
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"I think if someone is like then something or someone bad happened to them. Some people can overcome and others dwell and then it festers and grows until it’s such an uphill battle to overcome whatever it was. But I think proper medical help, Psychological help, can help. They know the right questions to ask to unravel someone. They listen, they don’t judge. " Absolutely spot on. | |||
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"Some of the saddest people in the world appear happy and carefree. Miserable people just wear their feelings openly. And I still stand by my previous post. If someone is like that then there is a reason. There is always a reason. If you dig deep enough. The question is, how many people are actually willing to have those people around, and how many will shut them out? Negativity and misery is exhausting and depressing to be around. I hope you're getting the help you need x" "I'm unhappy and isolation makes it worse." "I get it. Now go away and work on yourself, xome back when you're fixed." | |||
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"Some of the saddest people in the world appear happy and carefree. Miserable people just wear their feelings openly. And I still stand by my previous post. If someone is like that then there is a reason. There is always a reason. If you dig deep enough. The question is, how many people are actually willing to have those people around, and how many will shut them out?ive tried to engage you a couple of times in pm and you werent in the slightest bit interested My message log shows that we had a conversation. I can't say why it died." because you stopped answering | |||
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"Some of the saddest people in the world appear happy and carefree. Miserable people just wear their feelings openly. And I still stand by my previous post. If someone is like that then there is a reason. There is always a reason. If you dig deep enough. The question is, how many people are actually willing to have those people around, and how many will shut them out?ive tried to engage you a couple of times in pm and you werent in the slightest bit interested My message log shows that we had a conversation. I can't say why it died.because you stopped answering" Well I'll have to take your word for it. It's usually my fault. | |||
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"Some of the saddest people in the world appear happy and carefree. Miserable people just wear their feelings openly. And I still stand by my previous post. If someone is like that then there is a reason. There is always a reason. If you dig deep enough. The question is, how many people are actually willing to have those people around, and how many will shut them out? Negativity and misery is exhausting and depressing to be around. I hope you're getting the help you need x "I'm unhappy and isolation makes it worse." "I get it. Now go away and work on yourself, xome back when you're fixed."" Nobody else is able to 'fix' you | |||
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"I think if someone is like then something or someone bad happened to them. Some people can overcome and others dwell and then it festers and grows until it’s such an uphill battle to overcome whatever it was. But I think proper medical help, Psychological help, can help. They know the right questions to ask to unravel someone. They listen, they don’t judge. I think this too. Past experiences may determine how someone reacts to things. I don't think they are being deliberate with their negativity. People who are always exposed to bombings might run and cower for shelter when they hear the celebratory firecrackers/fireworks. " That can be true of any noise if it triggers a bad memory. | |||
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"Some of the saddest people in the world appear happy and carefree. Miserable people just wear their feelings openly. And I still stand by my previous post. If someone is like that then there is a reason. There is always a reason. If you dig deep enough. The question is, how many people are actually willing to have those people around, and how many will shut them out?ive tried to engage you a couple of times in pm and you werent in the slightest bit interested My message log shows that we had a conversation. I can't say why it died.because you stopped answering Well I'll have to take your word for it. It's usually my fault. " well if you ever do decide you want a chat my inbox is open | |||
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"I think if someone is like then something or someone bad happened to them. Some people can overcome and others dwell and then it festers and grows until it’s such an uphill battle to overcome whatever it was. But I think proper medical help, Psychological help, can help. They know the right questions to ask to unravel someone. They listen, they don’t judge. I think this too. Past experiences may determine how someone reacts to things. I don't think they are being deliberate with their negativity. People who are always exposed to bombings might run and cower for shelter when they hear the celebratory firecrackers/fireworks. That can be true of any noise if it triggers a bad memory. " Definitely. | |||
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"Some of the saddest people in the world appear happy and carefree. Miserable people just wear their feelings openly. And I still stand by my previous post. If someone is like that then there is a reason. There is always a reason. If you dig deep enough. The question is, how many people are actually willing to have those people around, and how many will shut them out? Negativity and misery is exhausting and depressing to be around. I hope you're getting the help you need x "I'm unhappy and isolation makes it worse." "I get it. Now go away and work on yourself, xome back when you're fixed." Nobody else is able to 'fix' you" They do have the option of not making it worse. | |||
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"Some of the saddest people in the world appear happy and carefree. Miserable people just wear their feelings openly. And I still stand by my previous post. If someone is like that then there is a reason. There is always a reason. If you dig deep enough. The question is, how many people are actually willing to have those people around, and how many will shut them out? Negativity and misery is exhausting and depressing to be around. I hope you're getting the help you need x "I'm unhappy and isolation makes it worse." "I get it. Now go away and work on yourself, xome back when you're fixed."" You have been unhappy and very negative since I first met you at the STP. That's at least 5 years ago. Blaming others and having a victim mentality doesn't help. I have had an awful lot to deal with in my life and at times have felt very negative but, the only way out of it was to help myself and change my perspective on things. It's not easy, but being negative all the time is terrible for your overall well being and if you want to change things, you really do have to help yourself as much as you can | |||
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"I work with a bloke who never stops moaning, everything’s negative, it’s can be exhausting, I’m sure people get a dopamine hit from moaning, why else would they do it, they simple enjoy it. Hate to burst your smug, self-satisfied bubble, but being trapped in negativity is a miserable, soul-destroying experience, even without having to suffer through your kind. But who’s making you be negative but yourself? Sometimes mental health takes the choice away from us. I imagine it’s a very isolating feeling and my heart goes out to anyone that is trapped in their own negative thoughts like that. " Thank you Jamie xx | |||
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"I think it is important to resist our urge to judge. We don’t know what has caused them to feel negative, nor do we know what is going on to perpetuate it. We can show compassion, but also maintain our own boundaries so we don’t get sucked into the negativity and can choose to manage our own emotional responses. We can be there to offer support if they wish to talk, *** but need to recognise we cannot rescue them either. Often our responses to it actually make things worse.***" Especially *** | |||
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"We have a guy at work whose glass isn't half empty...its been dropped on the floor and smashed to pieces!... he smiles when being negative ( must obviously thrill him) ...his nickname is the Energy Vampire, as he sucks the life out of you !" That sounds like me! | |||
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"Toxic positivity is absolutely a thing. The "WHY DON'T YOU JUST CHOOSE TO BE HAPPY?" angle accomplishes nothing except exposing that person's unquestioned privileges. " God, so much. | |||
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"I think if someone is like then something or someone bad happened to them. Some people can overcome and others dwell and then it festers and grows until it’s such an uphill battle to overcome whatever it was. But I think proper medical help, Psychological help, can help. They know the right questions to ask to unravel someone. They listen, they don’t judge. " I definitely need unravelling I know I'm not as bad as a lot of people, but I have my moments and have a very negative view of myself (reinforced by my own actions and the consequences thereof over the last 18 months or so) and I'm on the waiting list for professional help I don't enjoy this mindset particularly, but it's sometimes all I know / all I can do. My sympathies go out to everyone else struggling with their own battles | |||
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"I think if someone is like then something or someone bad happened to them. Some people can overcome and others dwell and then it festers and grows until it’s such an uphill battle to overcome whatever it was. But I think proper medical help, Psychological help, can help. They know the right questions to ask to unravel someone. They listen, they don’t judge. I definitely need unravelling I know I'm not as bad as a lot of people, but I have my moments and have a very negative view of myself (reinforced by my own actions and the consequences thereof over the last 18 months or so) and I'm on the waiting list for professional help I don't enjoy this mindset particularly, but it's sometimes all I know / all I can do. My sympathies go out to everyone else struggling with their own battles " Google self compassion. Game changer for me. If self compassion is too daunting, start with self "not prodding at loathing", then self indifference, then work towards compassion | |||
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"I think if someone is like then something or someone bad happened to them. Some people can overcome and others dwell and then it festers and grows until it’s such an uphill battle to overcome whatever it was. But I think proper medical help, Psychological help, can help. They know the right questions to ask to unravel someone. They listen, they don’t judge. I definitely need unravelling I know I'm not as bad as a lot of people, but I have my moments and have a very negative view of myself (reinforced by my own actions and the consequences thereof over the last 18 months or so) and I'm on the waiting list for professional help I don't enjoy this mindset particularly, but it's sometimes all I know / all I can do. My sympathies go out to everyone else struggling with their own battles " You’re a work in progress is all. | |||
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"I think if someone is like then something or someone bad happened to them. Some people can overcome and others dwell and then it festers and grows until it’s such an uphill battle to overcome whatever it was. But I think proper medical help, Psychological help, can help. They know the right questions to ask to unravel someone. They listen, they don’t judge. I definitely need unravelling I know I'm not as bad as a lot of people, but I have my moments and have a very negative view of myself (reinforced by my own actions and the consequences thereof over the last 18 months or so) and I'm on the waiting list for professional help I don't enjoy this mindset particularly, but it's sometimes all I know / all I can do. My sympathies go out to everyone else struggling with their own battles " congratulations on seeking help. Its not easy it takes a lot of hard work over a long period of time but baby steps. Ive gone from hating myself so much i constantly wanted to repeatedly slash my face and walking with my head down so people couldnt see me to loving myself. Its a very long battle but we have to start with baby steps | |||
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"A lot of negativity towards negative people on this thread. Ironic Oh no am I now being negative about people being negative to negative people? " | |||
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"Shouldn’t a positive person be attracted to a negative person. I’m confused " | |||
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"Some of the saddest people in the world appear happy and carefree. Miserable people just wear their feelings openly. And I still stand by my previous post. If someone is like that then there is a reason. There is always a reason. If you dig deep enough. The question is, how many people are actually willing to have those people around, and how many will shut them out? Negativity and misery is exhausting and depressing to be around. I hope you're getting the help you need x "I'm unhappy and isolation makes it worse." "I get it. Now go away and work on yourself, xome back when you're fixed." You have been unhappy and very negative since I first met you at the STP. That's at least 5 years ago. Blaming others and having a victim mentality doesn't help. I have had an awful lot to deal with in my life and at times have felt very negative but, the only way out of it was to help myself and change my perspective on things. It's not easy, but being negative all the time is terrible for your overall well being and if you want to change things, you really do have to help yourself as much as you can " Completely agree with this | |||
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"Toxic positivity is absolutely a thing. The "WHY DON'T YOU JUST CHOOSE TO BE HAPPY?" angle accomplishes nothing except exposing that person's unquestioned privileges. God, so much." Absolute epidemic of it. All too often, "I don't like negative people" actually means "This person has genuine concerns, but I don't want to address them." | |||
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"Toxic positivity is absolutely a thing. The "WHY DON'T YOU JUST CHOOSE TO BE HAPPY?" angle accomplishes nothing except exposing that person's unquestioned privileges. God, so much. Absolute epidemic of it. All too often, "I don't like negative people" actually means "This person has genuine concerns, but I don't want to address them." " "I haven't had the need to develop coping mechanisms because I've been incredibly fortunate, and this person with real problems is just killing the vibe of oblivious privilege, man" | |||
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"Toxic positivity is absolutely a thing. The "WHY DON'T YOU JUST CHOOSE TO BE HAPPY?" angle accomplishes nothing except exposing that person's unquestioned privileges. God, so much. Absolute epidemic of it. All too often, "I don't like negative people" actually means "This person has genuine concerns, but I don't want to address them." "I haven't had the need to develop coping mechanisms because I've been incredibly fortunate, and this person with real problems is just killing the vibe of oblivious privilege, man"" I suspect that most folks in adulthood have been through something that's required coping mechanisms | |||
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"Toxic positivity is absolutely a thing. The "WHY DON'T YOU JUST CHOOSE TO BE HAPPY?" angle accomplishes nothing except exposing that person's unquestioned privileges. God, so much. Absolute epidemic of it. All too often, "I don't like negative people" actually means "This person has genuine concerns, but I don't want to address them." "I haven't had the need to develop coping mechanisms because I've been incredibly fortunate, and this person with real problems is just killing the vibe of oblivious privilege, man" I suspect that most folks in adulthood have been through something that's required coping mechanisms " Yup. It's relative though, and to look down on those with a higher burden because you've been fortunate is gross. | |||
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"Do they actually thrive on being miserable and negative all the while. I knew a man once who was so negative and hatred towards the world im convinced it killed him. He was fit healthy and active and just died one day aged 72 im sure hatred killed him" Absolutely this. What is the point. | |||
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"I cannot imagine anybody deliberately wanting to be negative because surely they must be unhappy. And it is such a shame ewasting precious energy on being negative. But then, maybe sometimes it feels safer to be negative towards a situation than to be positive about it and find yourself disappointed? Not sure. Being positive is just so much easier and makes you happier as well as those around you. " I disagree. Its far easier being myself than pretending to be over happy and positive all the time.. Yet I have actually never been happier than being as unhappy as I am | |||
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"I cannot imagine anybody deliberately wanting to be negative because surely they must be unhappy. And it is such a shame ewasting precious energy on being negative. But then, maybe sometimes it feels safer to be negative towards a situation than to be positive about it and find yourself disappointed? Not sure. Being positive is just so much easier and makes you happier as well as those around you. I disagree. Its far easier being myself than pretending to be over happy and positive all the time.. Yet I have actually never been happier than being as unhappy as I am " Pretending to be happy can help, but sometimes it's a plaster on a gunshot wound | |||
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"There’s most likely underlying stress, trauma, and it’s a coping mechanism x" Yes. It's a sign of having survived. And those of us who are negative work on that shit, mostly. And/or suffer much more than those around them for it. | |||
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"People rarely want to know ' how you are ' try it - the next person that asks you tell them the absolute truth. We all put a mask on to help us get through life. But some people go out in public without the mask on. When people ask them how they are they tell the truth - the horror " I was twenty-eight years old before anyone explained to me that "All right, mate?" was a rhetorical question. | |||
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"People rarely want to know ' how you are ' try it - the next person that asks you tell them the absolute truth. We all put a mask on to help us get through life. But some people go out in public without the mask on. When people ask them how they are they tell the truth - the horror I was twenty-eight years old before anyone explained to me that "All right, mate?" was a rhetorical question. " Haha - get the mask on - no one wants your misery | |||
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"People rarely want to know ' how you are ' try it - the next person that asks you tell them the absolute truth. We all put a mask on to help us get through life. But some people go out in public without the mask on. When people ask them how they are they tell the truth - the horror I was twenty-eight years old before anyone explained to me that "All right, mate?" was a rhetorical question. Haha - get the mask on - no one wants your misery " I must say, I don't recall ever greeting someone with "how are you?" Subconsciously, I start with what sort of weather it is that day..."Hello. Isn't it a lovely/horrid day?", which then leads to how accurate a forecast has been and what to expect in the coming days. I'm not being facetious. That is what I do and your point has made me realise it. Perhaps it's because I am, inadvertently, telling that person not to discuss how they are with me. | |||
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"People rarely want to know ' how you are ' try it - the next person that asks you tell them the absolute truth. We all put a mask on to help us get through life. But some people go out in public without the mask on. When people ask them how they are they tell the truth - the horror I was twenty-eight years old before anyone explained to me that "All right, mate?" was a rhetorical question. Haha - get the mask on - no one wants your misery I must say, I don't recall ever greeting someone with "how are you?" Subconsciously, I start with what sort of weather it is that day..."Hello. Isn't it a lovely/horrid day?", which then leads to how accurate a forecast has been and what to expect in the coming days. I'm not being facetious. That is what I do and your point has made me realise it. Perhaps it's because I am, inadvertently, telling that person not to discuss how they are with me." Yeah you probably are No one wants to hear it We all consciously or subconsciously avoid anything that makes us feel uncomfortable. | |||
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"One of the many things that infuriates me about relentlessly positive people: There's a problem brewing. Everyone can see it. It will, eventually, blow the fuck up. "Err, guys," I say. "There's a problem brewing. We should fix it." "WAH WAH WAH STOP BEING SO NEGATIVE!" say the relentlessly positive people. "Just clap your hands and believe! LA LA LA!" Problem blows the fuck up. Chaos and disorder, people losing their jobs, whatever. "We should have just fixed that problem I told you all about months ago. We could have avoided all this." "GOD YOU'RE SO NEGATIVE!" Rinse and repeat until we all die. " Glitter Cake Etc | |||
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"People rarely want to know ' how you are ' try it - the next person that asks you tell them the absolute truth. We all put a mask on to help us get through life. But some people go out in public without the mask on. When people ask them how they are they tell the truth - the horror I was twenty-eight years old before anyone explained to me that "All right, mate?" was a rhetorical question. Haha - get the mask on - no one wants your misery I must say, I don't recall ever greeting someone with "how are you?" Subconsciously, I start with what sort of weather it is that day..."Hello. Isn't it a lovely/horrid day?", which then leads to how accurate a forecast has been and what to expect in the coming days. I'm not being facetious. That is what I do and your point has made me realise it. Perhaps it's because I am, inadvertently, telling that person not to discuss how they are with me. Yeah you probably are No one wants to hear it We all consciously or subconsciously avoid anything that makes us feel uncomfortable. " This is a very good point. I will ponder on it. Now that I'm older and have more time on my hands, I really ought to be more aware of it. We don't need to offer solutions. Just listening is enough sometimes. | |||
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"I am quite a negative person, I dont mean to be but have been like that since birth. Too much positivity and trust leads to hurt. I make sure I am bubbly and smiley when around people though so they don't feel the burden " Does anyone know this about you? | |||
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"I am quite a negative person, I dont mean to be but have been like that since birth. Too much positivity and trust leads to hurt. I make sure I am bubbly and smiley when around people though so they don't feel the burden " Get the mask on | |||
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"The most draining people I have ever met exist at tourist hotels trying to get people to join in games around the pool " Do they like lamb chops too ? | |||
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"The most draining people I have ever met exist at tourist hotels trying to get people to join in games around the pool Do they like lamb chops too ?" I know you do.. perfect fallback excuse.. But these snakes were probably discarded skins.. they she'd them and grow.. they hibernate in the winter but if real you may have had a lucky escape.. | |||
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"People rarely want to know ' how you are ' try it - the next person that asks you tell them the absolute truth. We all put a mask on to help us get through life. But some people go out in public without the mask on. When people ask them how they are they tell the truth - the horror " I'm fortunate that I had this explained to me as a child. It's not a real question it's a verbal gesture. Lie | |||
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"The most draining people I have ever met exist at tourist hotels trying to get people to join in games around the pool Do they like lamb chops too ? I know you do.. perfect fallback excuse.. But these snakes were probably discarded skins.. they she'd them and grow.. they hibernate in the winter but if real you may have had a lucky escape.." You keep telling yourself that buddy, I know what I saw though man, that snake was moving pretty fast, pretty fast indeed | |||
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"The most draining people I have ever met exist at tourist hotels trying to get people to join in games around the pool Do they like lamb chops too ? I know you do.. perfect fallback excuse.. But these snakes were probably discarded skins.. they she'd them and grow.. they hibernate in the winter but if real you may have had a lucky escape.. You keep telling yourself that buddy, I know what I saw though man, that snake was moving pretty fast, pretty fast indeed " Faster than you could run...lucky escape.. | |||
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