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"I just don't get why would 18yr old come on swingers site. OP?" Started my swinging days around the age of 18 ... my mate and i joining couples at the sauna pre-internet. | |||
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"I just don't get why would 18yr old come on swingers site. OP?" Why not? High sex drive’s looking to be fulfilled..maybe I had high expectations of meeting women on here  | |||
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"You're in an age group that is quite niche. Many people won't look twice due to having children a similar age or older, and it feels "wrong" Conversation with a youngster can often give a face palm to the older person, so meeting at a cougars and cubs night at a club is probably the best bet. " If people spoke to me it would help  They may decide I’m 18 going on 30! | |||
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"You're in an age group that is quite niche. Many people won't look twice due to having children a similar age or older, and it feels "wrong" Conversation with a youngster can often give a face palm to the older person, so meeting at a cougars and cubs night at a club is probably the best bet. If people spoke to me it would help They may decide I’m 18 going on 30!"It wouldn't help tho, I have a child older than you and no amount of speaking to you would make me change my mind about wanting to fuck. | |||
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"You're in an age group that is quite niche. Many people won't look twice due to having children a similar age or older, and it feels "wrong" Conversation with a youngster can often give a face palm to the older person, so meeting at a cougars and cubs night at a club is probably the best bet. If people spoke to me it would help They may decide I’m 18 going on 30!
It wouldn't help tho, I have a child older than you and no amount of speaking to you would make me change my mind about wanting to fuck."just fuck me instead peach I'm old lol | |||
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"I just don't get why would 18yr old come on swingers site. OP? Why not? High sex drive’s looking to be fulfilled..maybe I had high expectations of meeting women on here "Perhaps I was different as I started to explore sex in your age. | |||
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"I just don't get why would 18yr old come on swingers site. OP? Why not? High sex drive’s looking to be fulfilled..maybe I had high expectations of meeting women on here
Perhaps I was different as I started to explore sex in your age. "Sign of the times maybe.. | |||
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"You also need to consider what's happening in the world at the moment. This isn't just an age thing as chaps of differing age ranges have asked the question "why is nobody replying?" or similar. Well, because people aren't in much of a sexual headspace per se. People are losing jobs, loved ones, businesses and homes. Others are having to choose between heating and food. Some are finding themselves unable to care for pets and are giving them up. The world is brutal, truly brutal for some at the moment and the knock on effect of that devastation is being felt across the land. It will and does have an impact on the kind of chats you want to have and many many people have lost their sex drive. It may not take an adult brain to realise that, but it does take an adult attitude." I don’t buy into that I’m afraid. If they have popped onto the site, read the message etc then they are in the headspace for something. If they were not in the headspace they I don’t think they would be in at all or reading messages or perhaps even replying to say “not now” thanks. But I could be wrong.. But to say I don’t understand because I don’t have an “adult brain or adult attitude” is slightly insulting to all younger people. | |||
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"You're only as old as the woman you're feeling, OP! (Although a bit 'too young for me' by about..... 20 years!) "Let you off  | |||
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"I just don't get why would 18yr old come on swingers site. OP?" To have sex maybe? | |||
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"You also need to consider what's happening in the world at the moment. This isn't just an age thing as chaps of differing age ranges have asked the question "why is nobody replying?" or similar. Well, because people aren't in much of a sexual headspace per se. People are losing jobs, loved ones, businesses and homes. Others are having to choose between heating and food. Some are finding themselves unable to care for pets and are giving them up. The world is brutal, truly brutal for some at the moment and the knock on effect of that devastation is being felt across the land. It will and does have an impact on the kind of chats you want to have and many many people have lost their sex drive. It may not take an adult brain to realise that, but it does take an adult attitude. I don’t buy into that I’m afraid. If they have popped onto the site, read the message etc then they are in the headspace for something. If they were not in the headspace they I don’t think they would be in at all or reading messages or perhaps even replying to say “not now” thanks. But I could be wrong.. But to say I don’t understand because I don’t have an “adult brain or adult attitude” is slightly insulting to all younger people. " Right. So you're saying I'm on here because I'm in the headspace for something... correct? So you're telling me you know me better than me? Wrong twinkle toes. I'm here for the forums and to upload pictures, simple as that. Not insulting to all young people at all. Possibly insulting to those young people and those older people who are too selfishly wrapped up in their own la la land to grasp the fact that people's lives are getting torn apart and emotions are all over the place. | |||
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"Although we are ten to a dozen on here, I find we are becoming increasingly less popular now... agree?" Nope disagree totally!!!! T | |||
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"You also need to consider what's happening in the world at the moment. This isn't just an age thing as chaps of differing age ranges have asked the question "why is nobody replying?" or similar. Well, because people aren't in much of a sexual headspace per se. People are losing jobs, loved ones, businesses and homes. Others are having to choose between heating and food. Some are finding themselves unable to care for pets and are giving them up. The world is brutal, truly brutal for some at the moment and the knock on effect of that devastation is being felt across the land. It will and does have an impact on the kind of chats you want to have and many many people have lost their sex drive. It may not take an adult brain to realise that, but it does take an adult attitude. I don’t buy into that I’m afraid. If they have popped onto the site, read the message etc then they are in the headspace for something. If they were not in the headspace they I don’t think they would be in at all or reading messages or perhaps even replying to say “not now” thanks. But I could be wrong.. But to say I don’t understand because I don’t have an “adult brain or adult attitude” is slightly insulting to all younger people. Right. So you're saying I'm on here because I'm in the headspace for something... correct? So you're telling me you know me better than me? Wrong twinkle toes. I'm here for the forums and to upload pictures, simple as that. Not insulting to all young people at all. Possibly insulting to those young people and those older people who are too selfishly wrapped up in their own la la land to grasp the fact that people's lives are getting torn apart and emotions are all over the place." Well I never said any of that and I said that was my opinion. We are all entitled to those the last time I checked. I get what you are saying although I just see it differently. I’m not in forums to argue so if you can’t accept a difference of opinion then so be it. Also, it was quite insulting when your original point was that I am too young and supposedly immature for conversation on here? Since then you have resulted to name calling, insinuated I’m selfishly wrapped up in my own life and said I don’t have an adult brain. | |||
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"Although we are ten to a dozen on here, I find we are becoming increasingly less popular now... agree? Nope disagree totally!!!! T" You wouldn’t be the first on this forum to do so | |||
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"Completely disagree with you OP. Prior to first lock down we were seeking two bi guys for a mmmf meet. The trouble was most of them (not all) we contacted turned out to be time wasting idiots. A lot had the attitude "I'm special, you'll send pictures I request and pay for the hotel" One even expected us to pay his train fare! So the end result was we gave up trying to organise it due to some poor attitudes. There lies your problem I suspect. The many idiots spoiling it for the few genuine guys out there. I (James) wish you luck though OP. " Yes, as I’m sure there are. However, not all younger men are the same and not all these idiots should ruin it for the best of us. Also, I should think that “older” men stand people up to from time to time.. | |||
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"To me an 18yr old is a child. " Yes, been surprised to watch my views on 25yr olds, and even 30s as really young. Not even for swinging but at least that they'd probably think we've over the hill! | |||
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"You also need to consider what's happening in the world at the moment. This isn't just an age thing as chaps of differing age ranges have asked the question "why is nobody replying?" or similar. Well, because people aren't in much of a sexual headspace per se. People are losing jobs, loved ones, businesses and homes. Others are having to choose between heating and food. Some are finding themselves unable to care for pets and are giving them up. The world is brutal, truly brutal for some at the moment and the knock on effect of that devastation is being felt across the land. It will and does have an impact on the kind of chats you want to have and many many people have lost their sex drive. It may not take an adult brain to realise that, but it does take an adult attitude. I don’t buy into that I’m afraid. If they have popped onto the site, read the message etc then they are in the headspace for something. If they were not in the headspace they I don’t think they would be in at all or reading messages or perhaps even replying to say “not now” thanks. But I could be wrong.. But to say I don’t understand because I don’t have an “adult brain or adult attitude” is slightly insulting to all younger people. Right. So you're saying I'm on here because I'm in the headspace for something... correct? So you're telling me you know me better than me? Wrong twinkle toes. I'm here for the forums and to upload pictures, simple as that. Not insulting to all young people at all. Possibly insulting to those young people and those older people who are too selfishly wrapped up in their own la la land to grasp the fact that people's lives are getting torn apart and emotions are all over the place. Well I never said any of that and I said that was my opinion. We are all entitled to those the last time I checked. I get what you are saying although I just see it differently. I’m not in forums to argue so if you can’t accept a difference of opinion then so be it. Also, it was quite insulting when your original point was that I am too young and supposedly immature for conversation on here? Since then you have resulted to name calling, insinuated I’m selfishly wrapped up in my own life and said I don’t have an adult brain. " You said you didn't think people would be on here if they weren't in a sexual headspace. I told you I'm not in a sexual headspace. That's not just a difference of opinion, me not being in a sexual headspace is a fact. If you consider twinkle toes as name calling then that right there is a difference of opinion. Read into it what you like, perhaps my old lady brain didn't explain things clearly enough. Anyone who can't understand there's a pandemic going on and people ain't gonna be at their sexual peak or wanting to make new connections or plans is selfishly wrapped up in their own world, regardless of age. This swinging lark ain't all about sex, it's also about community. The forums are a great place to learn about people, different mindsets, dynamics, almost anything and everything. But most of all it's about acceptance. Now, I accept I won't be right for many many people. I'll be too short, to gobby, too mentally unstable, too fat, too thin, too young, too old. What I won't do is try to convince them they're wrong or to give me a shot. You see the difference? | |||
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"You also need to consider what's happening in the world at the moment. This isn't just an age thing as chaps of differing age ranges have asked the question "why is nobody replying?" or similar. Well, because people aren't in much of a sexual headspace per se. People are losing jobs, loved ones, businesses and homes. Others are having to choose between heating and food. Some are finding themselves unable to care for pets and are giving them up. The world is brutal, truly brutal for some at the moment and the knock on effect of that devastation is being felt across the land. It will and does have an impact on the kind of chats you want to have and many many people have lost their sex drive. It may not take an adult brain to realise that, but it does take an adult attitude." Spot on 
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"You also need to consider what's happening in the world at the moment. This isn't just an age thing as chaps of differing age ranges have asked the question "why is nobody replying?" or similar. Well, because people aren't in much of a sexual headspace per se. People are losing jobs, loved ones, businesses and homes. Others are having to choose between heating and food. Some are finding themselves unable to care for pets and are giving them up. The world is brutal, truly brutal for some at the moment and the knock on effect of that devastation is being felt across the land. It will and does have an impact on the kind of chats you want to have and many many people have lost their sex drive. It may not take an adult brain to realise that, but it does take an adult attitude. I don’t buy into that I’m afraid. If they have popped onto the site, read the message etc then they are in the headspace for something. If they were not in the headspace they I don’t think they would be in at all or reading messages or perhaps even replying to say “not now” thanks. But I could be wrong.. But to say I don’t understand because I don’t have an “adult brain or adult attitude” is slightly insulting to all younger people. Right. So you're saying I'm on here because I'm in the headspace for something... correct? So you're telling me you know me better than me? Wrong twinkle toes. I'm here for the forums and to upload pictures, simple as that. Not insulting to all young people at all. Possibly insulting to those young people and those older people who are too selfishly wrapped up in their own la la land to grasp the fact that people's lives are getting torn apart and emotions are all over the place. Well I never said any of that and I said that was my opinion. We are all entitled to those the last time I checked. I get what you are saying although I just see it differently. I’m not in forums to argue so if you can’t accept a difference of opinion then so be it. Also, it was quite insulting when your original point was that I am too young and supposedly immature for conversation on here? Since then you have resulted to name calling, insinuated I’m selfishly wrapped up in my own life and said I don’t have an adult brain. You said you didn't think people would be on here if they weren't in a sexual headspace. I told you I'm not in a sexual headspace. That's not just a difference of opinion, me not being in a sexual headspace is a fact. If you consider twinkle toes as name calling then that right there is a difference of opinion. Read into it what you like, perhaps my old lady brain didn't explain things clearly enough. Anyone who can't understand there's a pandemic going on and people ain't gonna be at their sexual peak or wanting to make new connections or plans is selfishly wrapped up in their own world, regardless of age. This swinging lark ain't all about sex, it's also about community. The forums are a great place to learn about people, different mindsets, dynamics, almost anything and everything. But most of all it's about acceptance. Now, I accept I won't be right for many many people. I'll be too short, to gobby, too mentally unstable, too fat, too thin, too young, too old. What I won't do is try to convince them they're wrong or to give me a shot. You see the difference? " Like I said to you previously, I didn’t come to argue. If you actually read back you will see that I didn’t say everyone on here is on here in a sexual headspace and the way you write makes it sound as if I’m chasing you despite you not being not being in a sexual headspace which couldn’t be further from the truth. Like I said I’m my first original message, it was just my opinion and I could be wrong. I don’t see why you feel you have to justify yourself? I quite believe some people are on here for sexual things some people aren’t.. so what’s the big deal? So please stop with this selfish stuff about me not understanding there’s a pandemic going on and not understanding others feelings because quite frankly I don’t appreciate it. | |||
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"You also need to consider what's happening in the world at the moment. This isn't just an age thing as chaps of differing age ranges have asked the question "why is nobody replying?" or similar. Well, because people aren't in much of a sexual headspace per se. People are losing jobs, loved ones, businesses and homes. Others are having to choose between heating and food. Some are finding themselves unable to care for pets and are giving them up. The world is brutal, truly brutal for some at the moment and the knock on effect of that devastation is being felt across the land. It will and does have an impact on the kind of chats you want to have and many many people have lost their sex drive. It may not take an adult brain to realise that, but it does take an adult attitude. I don’t buy into that I’m afraid. If they have popped onto the site, read the message etc then they are in the headspace for something. If they were not in the headspace they I don’t think they would be in at all or reading messages or perhaps even replying to say “not now” thanks. But I could be wrong.. But to say I don’t understand because I don’t have an “adult brain or adult attitude” is slightly insulting to all younger people. Right. So you're saying I'm on here because I'm in the headspace for something... correct? So you're telling me you know me better than me? Wrong twinkle toes. I'm here for the forums and to upload pictures, simple as that. Not insulting to all young people at all. Possibly insulting to those young people and those older people who are too selfishly wrapped up in their own la la land to grasp the fact that people's lives are getting torn apart and emotions are all over the place. Well I never said any of that and I said that was my opinion. We are all entitled to those the last time I checked. I get what you are saying although I just see it differently. I’m not in forums to argue so if you can’t accept a difference of opinion then so be it. Also, it was quite insulting when your original point was that I am too young and supposedly immature for conversation on here? Since then you have resulted to name calling, insinuated I’m selfishly wrapped up in my own life and said I don’t have an adult brain. You said you didn't think people would be on here if they weren't in a sexual headspace. I told you I'm not in a sexual headspace. That's not just a difference of opinion, me not being in a sexual headspace is a fact. If you consider twinkle toes as name calling then that right there is a difference of opinion. Read into it what you like, perhaps my old lady brain didn't explain things clearly enough. Anyone who can't understand there's a pandemic going on and people ain't gonna be at their sexual peak or wanting to make new connections or plans is selfishly wrapped up in their own world, regardless of age. This swinging lark ain't all about sex, it's also about community. The forums are a great place to learn about people, different mindsets, dynamics, almost anything and everything. But most of all it's about acceptance. Now, I accept I won't be right for many many people. I'll be too short, to gobby, too mentally unstable, too fat, too thin, too young, too old. What I won't do is try to convince them they're wrong or to give me a shot. You see the difference? Like I said to you previously, I didn’t come to argue. If you actually read back you will see that I didn’t say everyone on here is on here in a sexual headspace and the way you write makes it sound as if I’m chasing you despite you not being not being in a sexual headspace which couldn’t be further from the truth. Like I said I’m my first original message, it was just my opinion and I could be wrong. I don’t see why you feel you have to justify yourself? I quite believe some people are on here for sexual things some people aren’t.. so what’s the big deal? So please stop with this selfish stuff about me not understanding there’s a pandemic going on and not understanding others feelings because quite frankly I don’t appreciate it. " I'm not arguing 
This is me talking about a subject you asked for an answer to. I gave you my answer and it was one you didn't agree with.
I'm no way thinking you're chasing me  jesus wept.
I was merely attempting to educate you somewhat, but apparently that's not what you wanted at all.
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"You also need to consider what's happening in the world at the moment. This isn't just an age thing as chaps of differing age ranges have asked the question "why is nobody replying?" or similar. Well, because people aren't in much of a sexual headspace per se. People are losing jobs, loved ones, businesses and homes. Others are having to choose between heating and food. Some are finding themselves unable to care for pets and are giving them up. The world is brutal, truly brutal for some at the moment and the knock on effect of that devastation is being felt across the land. It will and does have an impact on the kind of chats you want to have and many many people have lost their sex drive. It may not take an adult brain to realise that, but it does take an adult attitude. I don’t buy into that I’m afraid. If they have popped onto the site, read the message etc then they are in the headspace for something. If they were not in the headspace they I don’t think they would be in at all or reading messages or perhaps even replying to say “not now” thanks. But I could be wrong.. But to say I don’t understand because I don’t have an “adult brain or adult attitude” is slightly insulting to all younger people. Right. So you're saying I'm on here because I'm in the headspace for something... correct? So you're telling me you know me better than me? Wrong twinkle toes. I'm here for the forums and to upload pictures, simple as that. Not insulting to all young people at all. Possibly insulting to those young people and those older people who are too selfishly wrapped up in their own la la land to grasp the fact that people's lives are getting torn apart and emotions are all over the place. Well I never said any of that and I said that was my opinion. We are all entitled to those the last time I checked. I get what you are saying although I just see it differently. I’m not in forums to argue so if you can’t accept a difference of opinion then so be it. Also, it was quite insulting when your original point was that I am too young and supposedly immature for conversation on here? Since then you have resulted to name calling, insinuated I’m selfishly wrapped up in my own life and said I don’t have an adult brain. You said you didn't think people would be on here if they weren't in a sexual headspace. I told you I'm not in a sexual headspace. That's not just a difference of opinion, me not being in a sexual headspace is a fact. If you consider twinkle toes as name calling then that right there is a difference of opinion. Read into it what you like, perhaps my old lady brain didn't explain things clearly enough. Anyone who can't understand there's a pandemic going on and people ain't gonna be at their sexual peak or wanting to make new connections or plans is selfishly wrapped up in their own world, regardless of age. This swinging lark ain't all about sex, it's also about community. The forums are a great place to learn about people, different mindsets, dynamics, almost anything and everything. But most of all it's about acceptance. Now, I accept I won't be right for many many people. I'll be too short, to gobby, too mentally unstable, too fat, too thin, too young, too old. What I won't do is try to convince them they're wrong or to give me a shot. You see the difference? Like I said to you previously, I didn’t come to argue. If you actually read back you will see that I didn’t say everyone on here is on here in a sexual headspace and the way you write makes it sound as if I’m chasing you despite you not being not being in a sexual headspace which couldn’t be further from the truth. Like I said I’m my first original message, it was just my opinion and I could be wrong. I don’t see why you feel you have to justify yourself? I quite believe some people are on here for sexual things some people aren’t.. so what’s the big deal? So please stop with this selfish stuff about me not understanding there’s a pandemic going on and not understanding others feelings because quite frankly I don’t appreciate it. I'm not arguing
This is me talking about a subject you asked for an answer to. I gave you my answer and it was one you didn't agree with.
I'm no way thinking you're chasing me jesus wept.
I was merely attempting to educate you somewhat, but apparently that's not what you wanted at all.
Perception."I don’t need educating thank you. Argument- an exchange of diverging or opposite views. Sounds a lot like what was happening no? Anyway, with point made and no further issues to discuss. Can we get this forum back to something less arguey? | |||
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"Completely disagree with you OP. Prior to first lock down we were seeking two bi guys for a mmmf meet. The trouble was most of them (not all) we contacted turned out to be time wasting idiots. A lot had the attitude "I'm special, you'll send pictures I request and pay for the hotel" One even expected us to pay his train fare! So the end result was we gave up trying to organise it due to some poor attitudes. There lies your problem I suspect. The many idiots spoiling it for the few genuine guys out there. I (James) wish you luck though OP. Yes, as I’m sure there are. However, not all younger men are the same and not all these idiots should ruin it for the best of us. Also, I should think that “older” men stand people up to from time to time.." At no time did I say all younger men. I was very careful as I know how these threads can turn nasty very quickly. Did you notice the brackets (not all), did you notice "some" poor attitudes, did you notice "many idiots spoiling it for the few genuine guys"? Yes older guys can stand people up from time to time, which is why we research people's verifications. Older guys will generally (not always) have verifications. I neglected to say in my previous post that the meet we were trying to set up was for a cougar session for Jessica so we were looking for two guys under 28. | |||
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"To me an 18yr old is a child. " This We have 2 sons slightly older and we also have a older daughter and in our experience our sons are a lot more immature than our daughter .When our sons were 18 they were more like 15 year olds in the head . | |||
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"Completely disagree with you OP. Prior to first lock down we were seeking two bi guys for a mmmf meet. The trouble was most of them (not all) we contacted turned out to be time wasting idiots. A lot had the attitude "I'm special, you'll send pictures I request and pay for the hotel" One even expected us to pay his train fare! So the end result was we gave up trying to organise it due to some poor attitudes. There lies your problem I suspect. The many idiots spoiling it for the few genuine guys out there. I (James) wish you luck though OP. Yes, as I’m sure there are. However, not all younger men are the same and not all these idiots should ruin it for the best of us. Also, I should think that “older” men stand people up to from time to time.. At no time did I say all younger men. I was very careful as I know how these threads can turn nasty very quickly. Did you notice the brackets (not all), did you notice "some" poor attitudes, did you notice "many idiots spoiling it for the few genuine guys"? Yes older guys can stand people up from time to time, which is why we research people's verifications. Older guys will generally (not always) have verifications. I neglected to say in my previous post that the meet we were trying to set up was for a cougar session for Jessica so we were looking for two guys under 28." Yes I am aware, it was me who referred to “all” younger men not being idiots. But I accept your point. Probably my bad phrasing! I still stick to the general point I was making through..however badly I worded it. | |||
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"Although we are ten to a dozen on here, I find we are becoming increasingly less popular now... agree?" Agree. More like twenty to a dozen now, so the figures and odds probably make you less popular now. Especially seeing that lots of guys use the scattergun approach of contact without respecting profiles. | |||
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"I see Princess Peach being helpful, OP, and you pushing back because you apparently know better. Her perception might help you understand, she's been on the site longer than you." I don’t see saying that I don’t have an “adult brain” as helpful. | |||
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"I see Princess Peach being helpful, OP, and you pushing back because you apparently know better. Her perception might help you understand, she's been on the site longer than you. I don’t see saying that I don’t have an “adult brain” as helpful." OK. Look at the bigger picture. Because she's correct. | |||
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"I see Princess Peach being helpful, OP, and you pushing back because you apparently know better. Her perception might help you understand, she's been on the site longer than you. I don’t see saying that I don’t have an “adult brain” as helpful. OK. Look at the bigger picture. Because she's correct. " Or look at the original bit I wrote where I never even said it was about having an adult brain, I said people of all ages have asked the same question and it's about having an adult attitude. | |||
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"I see Princess Peach being helpful, OP, and you pushing back because you apparently know better. Her perception might help you understand, she's been on the site longer than you. I don’t see saying that I don’t have an “adult brain” as helpful. OK. Look at the bigger picture. Because she's correct. Or look at the original bit I wrote where I never even said it was about having an adult brain, I said people of all ages have asked the same question and it's about having an adult attitude." Or the bit about pandemic, or the bit about different people looking for different things here | |||
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"Everyone on this thread was 18 once, all started on this site for the first time once, all posted on the forum for the first time once, all received there first knock back, negative comment, rude comment, positive comment, meet. Whatever. Surely you can all remember what that feels like. So when you were 18 and someone double your age (sorry princess I haven’t checked your age) says you don’t have an adult brain and you don’t understand the pandemic problems. Just remember being 18 and how that would feel. "I do remember being 18, I know how it would feel, and I don't see how it changes anything. | |||
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"Everyone on this thread was 18 once, all started on this site for the first time once, all posted on the forum for the first time once, all received there first knock back, negative comment, rude comment, positive comment, meet. Whatever. Surely you can all remember what that feels like. So when you were 18 and someone double your age (sorry princess I haven’t checked your age) says you don’t have an adult brain and you don’t understand the pandemic problems. Just remember being 18 and how that would feel. "I was a fucking idiot at 18. A proper cuntwaffle. Thought I knew it all and at almost 43 I know I'll never know it all. What I do have tho is life experience, and that's been the most painful yet valuable. | |||
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"Then I take both of your points of view and I’ll move on. Thank you. That is not being childish (although I will probably be called that no doubt) I just don’t think we are going to see eye to eye. Like I said, I’m not forcing my views on anyone. I actually agreed with you on reasons as to why people were on here. I just didn’t appreciate the comments about not understanding the pandemic etc. But I wish you all the best x" That's fair enough. You probably don't understand the pandemic in a way that someone older does - and that's not a criticism, I don't understand it how an 18 year old or a 78 year old would. Take the advice. It's good advice. | |||
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"Then I take both of your points of view and I’ll move on. Thank you. That is not being childish (although I will probably be called that no doubt) I just don’t think we are going to see eye to eye. Like I said, I’m not forcing my views on anyone. I actually agreed with you on reasons as to why people were on here. I just didn’t appreciate the comments about not understanding the pandemic etc. But I wish you all the best x That's fair enough. You probably don't understand the pandemic in a way that someone older does - and that's not a criticism, I don't understand it how an 18 year old or a 78 year old would. Take the advice. It's good advice." I study epidemiology at Bristol University and have lost my part time job due to to virus. So I know very well the effects of the virus both physically and on a more human level. But thanks for your advice. | |||
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". I don’t buy into that I’m afraid. If they have popped onto the site, read the message etc then they are in the headspace for something. If they were not in the headspace they I don’t think they would be in at all or reading messages or perhaps even replying to say “not now” thanks. But I could be wrong." Some people are only here for the forums or to chat to their friends at the moment. Just because people are online does not mean they are looking for new conversations or people to have sex with. I'm here for the forum mainly at the moment and my friends, I ignore my inbox, turn it off or hide my profile. I have no interest in new conversations right now. | |||
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"I wish this site was around when I was 18 - but the Internet wasn't invented then
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"Everyone on this thread was 18 once, all started on this site for the first time once, all posted on the forum for the first time once, all received there first knock back, negative comment, rude comment, positive comment, meet. Whatever. Surely you can all remember what that feels like. So when you were 18 and someone double your age (sorry princess I haven’t checked your age) says you don’t have an adult brain and you don’t understand the pandemic problems. Just remember being 18 and how that would feel. "Yes we were all 18 once, but we never felt the need to join this lifestyle to find a sex life, at 18 we were all exploring the face to face way. At 18 you think you are being insulted by those comments, when you are older you will realise that the comments were absolutely spot on. | |||
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"The thought of me being on a site like this at 18 chills me to my core. Not all 18 year olds. Me. I didn't have the life experience, and yeah I thought I was mature. So mature. I knew everything, man. Some 18 year olds may be different, I'm not extrapolating beyond myself. Men under 25 or 30 always struggle on here, OP, although no man finds it easy." Well said!! | |||
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"Everyone on this thread was 18 once, all started on this site for the first time once, all posted on the forum for the first time once, all received there first knock back, negative comment, rude comment, positive comment, meet. Whatever. Surely you can all remember what that feels like. So when you were 18 and someone double your age (sorry princess I haven’t checked your age) says you don’t have an adult brain and you don’t understand the pandemic problems. Just remember being 18 and how that would feel.
Yes we were all 18 once, but we never felt the need to join this lifestyle to find a sex life, at 18 we were all exploring the face to face way.
At 18 you think you are being insulted by those comments, when you are older you will realise that the comments were absolutely spot on."Ok | |||
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"Completely disagree with you OP. Prior to first lock down we were seeking two bi guys for a mmmf meet. The trouble was most of them (not all) we contacted turned out to be time wasting idiots. A lot had the attitude "I'm special, you'll send pictures I request and pay for the hotel" One even expected us to pay his train fare! So the end result was we gave up trying to organise it due to some poor attitudes. There lies your problem I suspect. The many idiots spoiling it for the few genuine guys out there. I (James) wish you luck though OP. " This why your always better off visiting a club” when Bojo deems it safe “ if there not willing to visit a club there not a swinger x | |||
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"Although we are ten to a dozen on here, I find we are becoming increasingly less popular now... agree?" Because there is alot of us (well I'm a bit older than you) ladies can have there pick of Calvin Klein models if they so wish and the rest ( me included) get ignored  | |||
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"Although we are ten to a dozen on here, I find we are becoming increasingly less popular now... agree? Because there is alot of us (well I'm a bit older than you) ladies can have there pick of Calvin Klein models if they so wish and the rest ( me included) get ignored "And they can get a pick of the guys who put the most effort into a decent profile. | |||
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"Although we are ten to a dozen on here, I find we are becoming increasingly less popular now... agree? Because there is alot of us (well I'm a bit older than you) ladies can have there pick of Calvin Klein models if they so wish and the rest ( me included) get ignored
And they can get a pick of the guys who put the most effort into a decent profile."Yeah I hadn't even looked - guys with good profiles get better luck. | |||
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"Although we are ten to a dozen on here, I find we are becoming increasingly less popular now... agree? Because there is alot of us (well I'm a bit older than you) ladies can have there pick of Calvin Klein models if they so wish and the rest ( me included) get ignored
And they can get a pick of the guys who put the most effort into a decent profile."I'll take that as a compliment lol | |||
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"Although we are ten to a dozen on here, I find we are becoming increasingly less popular now... agree? Because there is alot of us (well I'm a bit older than you) ladies can have there pick of Calvin Klein models if they so wish and the rest ( me included) get ignored
And they can get a pick of the guys who put the most effort into a decent profile.
Yeah I hadn't even looked - guys with good profiles get better luck."Please explain a decent profile - more to the point what am I doing wrong | |||
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"Another angle. How many clubs and organised social events have you been to?" Good question. Obviously prior to lockdown | |||
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"I’m a young lad (27) and I personally joined the site to meet with an older woman as this was one of my fantasies. I’m actually really shy so a club really does intrigue me, but I’m petrified about going along to one! Not sure if anyone else is in the same boat?" I was shitting bricks before I went to my first club. I went on my own midweek hoping I wasn't gonna get overwhelmed. I don't go all the time, far from it (pre-covid of course) but I do go to events that interest me. If I was a young man wanting to meet older women, I'd get my arse to a cougars and cubs night. You know then that the chances of connecting with others are higher than if you went to a Xmas party for example. It does take patience, it does take time to find people who fit your bill and you fit theirs. But those chances can be improved dramatically by making effort in the areas that will reap the most reward. Even if there are no shenanigans on the night, it *should* be a confidence boost, get ya mingling and talking to people. A few veris and others will see that "oh, this dude makes an effort and doesn't rely on fab alone" I for one prefer to get a feel for people in person so clubs are good for me in that respect. Messaging, well, people can say anything whereas in person they give off an aura, a vibe, and that tells me more about them than words do. | |||
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"Thanks Peach! I just get nervous that someone I know may see me there. I’m shy! need to get a grip, I know!"Totally, totally normal. I was bricking it when I first went to a club. | |||
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"Thanks Peach! I just get nervous that someone I know may see me there. I’m shy! need to get a grip, I know!"Okay, so... what's the worst case scenario? There are risks everywhere in the scene. Liars, manipulators, those who prey on the vulnerable plus a whole host more. You're safer in a club or at a social than randoms via messaging | |||
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"I just don’t want my personal and private life to crossover. Meeting via fab at least gives you some security that there’s no existing link between you! " You've got no idea they are who they say they are on Fab. Could turn out to be Beryl from HR when you both turn up. | |||
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"I just don’t want my personal and private life to crossover. Meeting via fab at least gives you some security that there’s no existing link between you! You've got no idea they are who they say they are on Fab. Could turn out to be Beryl from HR when you both turn up. "
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"I just don’t want my personal and private life to crossover. Meeting via fab at least gives you some security that there’s no existing link between you! You've got no idea they are who they say they are on Fab. Could turn out to be Beryl from HR when you both turn up. " Exactly. More likely Bob from number 10 mind you. I've had people tell me, I know your mate XYZ. Clearly someone had shown my picture to someone I know. Not right but you have to be prepared for it happening. When I was part of a couple we got a message from someone, was a bloke my ex worked with. | |||
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