FabSwingers.com forum: Muscular /gym fit women

By *uvs2lik OP Man
over a year ago

wakefield

Does anyone else on fab find muscular / gym fit women very sexy ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not overly muscley, but a bit of definition, abs and toned legs are very nice.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Some do, some don't. I admire them very much, and yes, it does fall into my type of woman.

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By *arim_ak66Man
over a year ago

London

"Does anyone else on fab find muscular / gym fit women very sexy ? "

They are hot, but hard to find!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I really like fit womens, that for me so hot, that body, that energy, that power. That amazing body

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By *orbidden eastMan
over a year ago

london dodging electric scooters

Bloody hell yes please. And the funny thing is after a nice session you can share tips

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think they look awesome. I used to have a 6 pack but the work involved in keeping it visible is gruelling. Easier and tastier to just be a bit plump!

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By *igmaMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire

I’m all in favour

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By *uvs2lik OP Man
over a year ago

wakefield

There's a female pornstar , Denise M***(can't remember her last name lol she is gorgeous and has a huge clit

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By *erDirtyRockstarMan
over a year ago

buckinghamshire

Healthy and curvacious ladies all the way here!. Plus not able/inclined to beat me in an arm wrestle

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No fit but not unfit...

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By *oxyvixen99Woman
over a year ago

Newtownabbey

Not bi but yes I find them very attractive especially with larger gluteus etc like Serena Williams

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They're my favourites

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By *adyBugsWoman
over a year ago

cognito

Personality always beats physical attributes for me. I can appreciate athleticism but if you can’t hold a normal conversation what’s the point?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think they look awesome. I used to have a 6 pack but the work involved in keeping it visible is gruelling. Easier and tastier to just be a bit plump!"

As an aside, how do you manage that? I get the upper 4 well defined but my bottom 2 always seem a bit flabby even with cardio and diet

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By *irewolffMan
over a year ago

Dublin

Toned but not mad muscley. Love arm definition.

I work my legs alot & arse a fair bit. Was up to leg pressing 90kilos....a week before I found out I had cancer again, this time in my bones & I needed a hip replacement as a result

I am dying to get back to the gym. No deep squats with a very heavy weight as I could dislocate my hip!! The joys...

MsD

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish

My job is physical so although i am not a gym bunny i am strong and as fit as a fiddle.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m v jealous of women who have proper defined abs, childbirth and my love of food makes it seem like an impossibility for me..

I have pretty well defined toned muscular legs have been fitter but quite frankly can’t be arsed atm..

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I’m v jealous of women who have proper defined abs, childbirth and my love of food makes it seem like an impossibility for me..

I have pretty well defined toned muscular legs have been fitter but quite frankly can’t be arsed atm.."

I don't think I'll ever see a six pack, but I do see obliques sometimes and get muscles where it's a bit more obvious (biceps, my quads are solid). I'm all about competing with myself, being the best I can be.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think they look awesome. I used to have a 6 pack but the work involved in keeping it visible is gruelling. Easier and tastier to just be a bit plump!

As an aside, how do you manage that? I get the upper 4 well defined but my bottom 2 always seem a bit flabby even with cardio and diet

Christ my abs haven’t been visible for a good few years now rolf

Bottom ones are solid to show. Even if you think your diet is awesome it would have to be stricter again. Your body fat has to be so low for your bottom abs to show. DNP was the only thing that popped mine but you can’t do that all the time, especially not in the summer which is the most time you want abs to show. Now I’d just be happy with any definition in my abs. I’d be happy if my belly was just flat instead being able to grab a roll.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’m v jealous of women who have proper defined abs, childbirth and my love of food makes it seem like an impossibility for me..

I have pretty well defined toned muscular legs have been fitter but quite frankly can’t be arsed atm..

Yeah I have the obliques but don’t think I’ll ever get the pouch in the middle down.The thighs are rock solid though

I do a fair amount of arms weight training, been great for the back/shoulder muscles (the part that never gets seen) and biceps but damn those bingo wings are hard to shift.

P.s you look great

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By *osweet69Couple
over a year ago

portsmouth

Who does not appreciate a fit looking body.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Defo yes please

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think they look awesome. I used to have a 6 pack but the work involved in keeping it visible is gruelling. Easier and tastier to just be a bit plump!

As an aside, how do you manage that? I get the upper 4 well defined but my bottom 2 always seem a bit flabby even with cardio and diet

Christ my abs haven’t been visible for a good few years now rolf

What’s DNP? Although not sure I would ever be able or want to get my body fat down enough to get a full six pack,

I also find my hormones play a massive part in the belly roll. One day it’s pretty flat, the next day the roll appears.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I’m v jealous of women who have proper defined abs, childbirth and my love of food makes it seem like an impossibility for me..

I have pretty well defined toned muscular legs have been fitter but quite frankly can’t be arsed atm..

Yeah I have the obliques but don’t think I’ll ever get the pouch in the middle down.The thighs are rock solid though

I do a fair amount of arms weight training, been great for the back/shoulder muscles (the part that never gets seen) and biceps but damn those bingo wings are hard to shift.

P.s you look great

Thank you

and you

I think we beat ourselves up too much. I'm trying to switch from "I want to look like X" to "how do I be physically the best I can be". Health not aesthetic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think they look awesome. I used to have a 6 pack but the work involved in keeping it visible is gruelling. Easier and tastier to just be a bit plump!

As an aside, how do you manage that? I get the upper 4 well defined but my bottom 2 always seem a bit flabby even with cardio and diet

Christ my abs haven’t been visible for a good few years now rolf

Ahhhh guess I'll just never have my bottom and to show then

To be honest, I'm fairly skinny so I don't think I'd be able to get well defined abs while also trying to bulk. I think you look fantastic, abs or not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone else on fab find muscular / gym fit women very sexy ? "
No.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’m v jealous of women who have proper defined abs, childbirth and my love of food makes it seem like an impossibility for me..

I have pretty well defined toned muscular legs have been fitter but quite frankly can’t be arsed atm..

Yeah I have the obliques but don’t think I’ll ever get the pouch in the middle down.The thighs are rock solid though

I do a fair amount of arms weight training, been great for the back/shoulder muscles (the part that never gets seen) and biceps but damn those bingo wings are hard to shift.

P.s you look great

Thank you

and you

I think we beat ourselves up too much. I'm trying to switch from "I want to look like X" to "how do I be physically the best I can be". Health not aesthetic"

I agree, I’m not built to be a waif like size 8. Genetically determined hefty boobs & thighs means that is never going to happen.

However I do want to be the fittest healthiest version of me that I can be. I have also learnt to love my shape over the years, I guess that’s what ageing & maturity does.

I’m much more accepting of my body now than I was in my 20’s and skinnier much more pert (oh the irony)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think they look awesome. I used to have a 6 pack but the work involved in keeping it visible is gruelling. Easier and tastier to just be a bit plump!

As an aside, how do you manage that? I get the upper 4 well defined but my bottom 2 always seem a bit flabby even with cardio and diet

Christ my abs haven’t been visible for a good few years now rolf

What’s DNP? Although not sure I would ever be able or want to get my body fat down enough to get a full six pack,

I also find my hormones play a massive part in the belly roll. One day it’s pretty flat, the next day the roll appears."

It’s a tricky thing cos it’s correct usage is for pesticides and dyes and for developing photographs. But it’s a very dangerous fat burner. Dangerous in the sense that it would cook your organs inside your body and you’d literally burn to death from the inside so it’s not recommended at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes, Jess Ennis-Hill types are my Achilles heel

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Laura Michelle Prestin for me. Insane body.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think they look awesome. I used to have a 6 pack but the work involved in keeping it visible is gruelling. Easier and tastier to just be a bit plump!

As an aside, how do you manage that? I get the upper 4 well defined but my bottom 2 always seem a bit flabby even with cardio and diet

Christ my abs haven’t been visible for a good few years now rolf

What’s DNP? Although not sure I would ever be able or want to get my body fat down enough to get a full six pack,

I also find my hormones play a massive part in the belly roll. One day it’s pretty flat, the next day the roll appears.

Oh I think I may give that a miss and live with the belly roll

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By *reya73Woman
over a year ago

Whitley Bay

I like fit/embodied with some natural softness. Super muscle doesn't do it for me.. but is attractive of course. As always.. Its the person behind the physique that matters most

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think they look awesome. I used to have a 6 pack but the work involved in keeping it visible is gruelling. Easier and tastier to just be a bit plump!

As an aside, how do you manage that? I get the upper 4 well defined but my bottom 2 always seem a bit flabby even with cardio and diet

Christ my abs haven’t been visible for a good few years now rolf

What’s DNP? Although not sure I would ever be able or want to get my body fat down enough to get a full six pack,

I also find my hormones play a massive part in the belly roll. One day it’s pretty flat, the next day the roll appears.

Oh I think I may give that a miss and live with the belly roll

Definitely give it a miss!

I missed the bit you said about time of the month. I bloat terrible leading up to it and then when it comes I feel insatiable, like nothing fills me but apparently you need more food to give you energy to ovulate! Women have it harder than men!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also to answer your question, I don't really mind the shape as long we click and engage with each other well.

Keeping gym fit takes a lot of dedication so I'm not in a position to ask that of someone when I can't guarantee it myself

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By *reya73Woman
over a year ago

Whitley Bay

I do lots of core work but my abs only ever revealed themselves for a short while when I was 30 just before I became pregnant!!! They are there and stronger than most my age.. but you have to feel around for them ha! My legs however are pretty defined. Id have to put in serious time to have visible abs and, well, mine are more functional than aesthetic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah I like them. Would quite like to be chucked around by one and punched in the face if I cant make them cum!

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By *erDirtyRockstarMan
over a year ago

buckinghamshire

"I think they look awesome. I used to have a 6 pack but the work involved in keeping it visible is gruelling. Easier and tastier to just be a bit plump!

As an aside, how do you manage that? I get the upper 4 well defined but my bottom 2 always seem a bit flabby even with cardio and diet

Christ my abs haven’t been visible for a good few years now rolf

Omg dnp . That's INCREDIBLY dangerous . Isn't it an explosive wtf

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By *erDirtyRockstarMan
over a year ago

buckinghamshire

Dnp. effective dose to lethal dose is so tiny that it's beyond way too dangerous to be taking. It's a certified explosive for a start.

You should not advocate on a public forum. And if you didnt know, I'd read up on the lass who cooked herself to death taking it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I find any women sexy, muscular, gym fit. Curvy, slim. If someone is attractive to me and vice versa , that's what is important.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think they look awesome. I used to have a 6 pack but the work involved in keeping it visible is gruelling. Easier and tastier to just be a bit plump!

As an aside, how do you manage that? I get the upper 4 well defined but my bottom 2 always seem a bit flabby even with cardio and diet

Christ my abs haven’t been visible for a good few years now rolf

What’s DNP? Although not sure I would ever be able or want to get my body fat down enough to get a full six pack,

I also find my hormones play a massive part in the belly roll. One day it’s pretty flat, the next day the roll appears.

Oh I think I may give that a miss and live with the belly roll

Definitely give it a miss!

The nature of women & hormones, we get bloated & fat with a craving for food but we also at the same time get the biggest craving for cock

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Dnp. effective dose to lethal dose is so tiny that it's beyond way too dangerous to be taking. It's a certified explosive for a start.

You should not advocate on a public forum. And if you didnt know, I'd read up on the lass who cooked herself to death taking it "

Don’t see anywhere that I’ve recommended it at all. Quite the opposite in fact.

Was just saying it’s the only thing that made my bottom abs pop. I was weighed 3 times in a row and measured and temperature taken before I was given my dose and it was adjusted daily to my weight.

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By *blasiansCouple
over a year ago

Wakefield

Bookmarked

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Dnp. effective dose to lethal dose is so tiny that it's beyond way too dangerous to be taking. It's a certified explosive for a start.

You should not advocate on a public forum. And if you didnt know, I'd read up on the lass who cooked herself to death taking it

Don’t see anywhere that I’ve recommended it at all. Quite the opposite in fact.

Was just saying it’s the only thing that made my bottom abs pop. I was weighed 3 times in a row and measured and temperature taken before I was given my dose and it was adjusted daily to my weight. "

I agree nowhere have you recommended it, just mentioned as a past experience and if anything have advocated against it,,

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

"Yeah I like them. Would quite like to be chucked around by one and punched in the face if I cant make them cum!

Kinky fucker!

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over a year ago

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

"I do lots of core work but my abs only ever revealed themselves for a short while when I was 30 just before I became pregnant!!! They are there and stronger than most my age.. but you have to feel around for them ha! My legs however are pretty defined. Id have to put in serious time to have visible abs and, well, mine are more functional than aesthetic

Yeah there's definitely a genetic element. As a teenager I was a competive dancer and a size 6 (if that). Yet you couldn't see more than the central line down the middle of my upper abs. Of the girls I danced with, some did and some didn't. I guess it depended on where we naturally stored the little body fat we had.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love it, sexy as fuck, but also super impressive purely from a physique perspective

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yeah I like them. Would quite like to be chucked around by one and punched in the face if I cant make them cum!

Kinky fucker!

You knows it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yeah I like them. Would quite like to be chucked around by one and punched in the face if I cant make them cum!

Kinky fucker!

You knows it!

Nothing wrong with that

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By *ames-77Man
over a year ago

milton keynes

Massive turn on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A toned and sculpted body on a man or woman is always sexy.

I'm certainly not toned or sculpted... but fitness/strength etc come in many forms. I'm strong and fit from my job... but not gym toned! Don't have the time unfortunately...

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By *2000ManMan
over a year ago

Worthing

They look too much like male athletes. Not my type at all!

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By *lanPartridgeMan
over a year ago

nottingham

Lotte Bendix, sigh. Her husband's a big bigger though!

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By *luebellRacerCouple
over a year ago

Shropshire

I love slender, toned women! (But also silky, soft skinned, curvaceous women... greedy I know!)

After 2 kids I think I'm doing alright!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have muscular legs and back, though lost the arms atm with a shoulder injury ... with a soft squishy stomach

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By *rkkidMan
over a year ago

Cork

Honestly any lady carrying/ lifting a weight will catch my attention

You're all so sexy

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By *onglegs38Couple
over a year ago

bath

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By *onglegs38Couple
over a year ago

bath

"I have muscular legs and back, though lost the arms atm with a shoulder injury ... with a soft squishy stomach

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you have incredible legs x

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By *rNaughtyNickMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

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By *mooth Operator 07Man
over a year ago

in the deep mist of the valleys

I love a lean or muscular sexy gym fit woman.

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By *reya73Woman
over a year ago

Whitley Bay

I love embodied, physically aware and fit. This doesn't always mean super toned or muscular or 'gym fit'. The way someone occupies their body with the energy they have is what is attractive to me. In women.. A mix of fleshy and fit/strong/embodied.

I'm a bit of a mixture of soft and strong myself. Muscly legs and arms... I have abs somewhere under the softness!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have muscular legs and back, though lost the arms atm with a shoulder injury ... with a soft squishy stomach

you have incredible legs x "

Thanks and likewise xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As long as shes got some curves

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By *rad670Man
over a year ago

South Lakes

I totally admire the dedication it takes to produce a muscular female physique but prefer the fitness physique that stops short of having large bulky muscles. Toned just edging to muscle arms, thighs and shoulders are really attractive. Saying that I also like and appreciate a whole world of differently shaped women, sexy doesn't have a particular body shape, it's all about the person.

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By *isspurplechesterWoman
over a year ago

Chester

Not so much muscular, but I do love a toned lady

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By *blasiansCouple
over a year ago

Wakefield

Not for a lack of effort. But every little helps.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not overly ripped but toned and strong arms yes. Sexy as fuck.

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By *mooth Operator 07Man
over a year ago

in the deep mist of the valleys

There are few muscular women on fab and they are on my hotlist.

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By *otPrinceHarryMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Oh yes. Margret Gnarr is perfection.

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By *ames-77Man
over a year ago

milton keynes

"Not so much muscular, but I do love a toned lady

Agreed I love a toned woman !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think they look awesome. I used to have a 6 pack but the work involved in keeping it visible is gruelling. Easier and tastier to just be a bit plump!

As an aside, how do you manage that? I get the upper 4 well defined but my bottom 2 always seem a bit flabby even with cardio and diet

Christ my abs haven’t been visible for a good few years now rolf

What’s DNP? Although not sure I would ever be able or want to get my body fat down enough to get a full six pack,

I also find my hormones play a massive part in the belly roll. One day it’s pretty flat, the next day the roll appears.

Sounds like the stuff that was used in munition factories years ago, where they found the workers there were losing weight ... and then eventually dying! Think I’ll stick to IF and HIIT combined with a higher fat diet. Waaaay safer!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I prefer toned bodies on either sex.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Toned and some definition is nice but I like them to look like women. A friend of mine was an olympic class boxer and she had no tits, just pecs. Incredible dedication to her sport but I didn't find her body attractive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Guess goes both ways, I prefer a toned guy

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By *ames-77Man
over a year ago

milton keynes

"Guess goes both ways, I prefer a toned guy"

FairPlay !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Toned isn’t a thing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Toned and some definition is nice but I like them to look like women. A friend of mine was an olympic class boxer and she had no tits, just pecs. Incredible dedication to her sport but I didn't find her body attractive.

Whooo! I find this offensive.

Women who train do look like women

I will try my best to always be the definition a man describes, then I know I’m a woman

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By *entleman JayMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

I’ve w soft spot for Michelle Lewin.

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By *O55VXNCouple
over a year ago

bristol

I hope so

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By *itginger101Man
over a year ago

Termonfeckin

I love strong fit women,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont want to see ab etc muscles bulging out of a woman x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I dont want to see ab etc muscles bulging out of a woman x"

I’m sure the women who have muscles and defined abs don’t really care and they do it for themselves rather than other people.

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"I dont want to see ab etc muscles bulging out of a woman x

I’m sure the women who have muscles and defined abs don’t really care and they do it for themselves rather than other people. "

100% agree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not overly muscley, but a bit of definition, abs and toned legs are very nice. "

Agreed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm definitely attracted to physically strong women. But then I'm also attracted to more curvy, softer women too. So yeah. Generally I'm attracted to women

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

girls in shape? Yes please

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By *elle xWoman
over a year ago

Doire Theas

I like all flavours of women

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

"I like all flavours of women

Would you like a selection box?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I like all flavours of women

Would you like a selection box?

Can I have both you and Busty in a selection box please?

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By *indergirlWoman
over a year ago

somewhere, someplace

Like busty I like nearly all ladies

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By *O55VXNCouple
over a year ago

bristol

"I dont want to see ab etc muscles bulging out of a woman x"

You won’t like me then haha x

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By *elle xWoman
over a year ago

Doire Theas

"I like all flavours of women

Would you like a selection box?

Ohh that sounds perfect

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do love strong women. Mostly strong willed

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By *amie HantsWoman
over a year ago

Atlantis

"I do love strong women. Mostly strong willed

I saw the ‘and the bitches whatevered’ mem again today

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By *lanPartridgeMan
over a year ago

nottingham

Colette Guimond does it for me

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By *iggydog78Man
over a year ago

London

A gym fit bum.... My weakness.. who agrees?

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By *issAphroditeWoman
over a year ago

Norwich

My body is full of contradictions. I regularly gym yet still have plenty of chub. I have muscular legs yet squishy thighs. Curvy and soft yet have biceps and am starting to get triceps and defined shoulders.

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By *iggydog78Man
over a year ago

London

Caroline Gervan on Youtube I'd recommend for busy Mums all you need is a mat and light weights... Thank me later

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I respect what they are achieving as I try to achieve the same in my life, but I'm not attracted to them sexually.

I prefer bigger woman, for lack of a better term. always have. Always will.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Definitely mean gabi garcia is awesome hot

I know it’s not for everyone but each to they own

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By *ygriff89Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

Absolutely yes!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Absolutely yes!

Ohhh very hot

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am fine with gym fit but if they're like miss Olympia with no tits then it's a no from me. A little bit whilst still maintaining a some what feminine figure is ok for me.

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By *angerous123Man
over a year ago

Leeds

Yeah I like it

I know women have a harder time getting lean and building muscle than men, so when I see someone that's clearly put a lot of graft into their physique and shown determination to get there, well that's sexy to me.

There is too lean though. I don't mean from an attraction point of view but if a woman sits at too low a body fat percentage for too long they run the risk of fucking up their cycles. Like I say, harder work for a women they're not meant to be ripped

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By *issAphroditeWoman
over a year ago

Norwich

"Yeah I like it

I'm glad you have mentioned this. I think that a lot of men have a very poor understanding of how women's physiology actually works. Our bodies don't produce enough of the hormone that assists with building building muscles and on top of that, our own sex hormones fluctuate throughout the month, affecting our strength, stamina, concentration and stability among other things.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yeah I like it

This. Absolutely.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yeah I like it

I have done some research into this when I was training with a female friend. If a woman starts to produce too much testosterone due to being too lean (think it is under 13% body fat) her cycles will stop completely because her body will not produce enough oestrogen. It is certainly harder for a woman but as long as they aren't aiming to be the next miss Olympia then not many have much to worry about as they won't drop that low. Women also have to take more supplements due to hormonal imbalances. But women have an advantage above men. As they produce more oestrogen over testosterone they will recover a lot faster than a man will.

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By *VineMan
over a year ago

The right place

It doesn’t do anything for me

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

Yeah they certainly get my blood flowing.

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By *issAphroditeWoman
over a year ago

Norwich

"Yeah I like it

I've seen a lot of exercises, when aimed at women, just lower the weight limit compared to men. Our bodies are designed differently and have a very different physiology - we're not just weaker versions of men.

I've been paying a lot more attention to how I'm training just lately and it's fascinating to see the differences in what my body can and can't do throughout my cycle. Yearning during a period is HARD work, I mean REALLY hard on a heavy day. Considerably reduced strength, stamina, flexibility.

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By *ustforfun49Man
over a year ago

chesterfield

"Does anyone else on fab find muscular / gym fit women very sexy ? "

Yes they are very sexy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yeah I like it

I haven't done that amount of research into it but I can understand how that would have an effect on your performance.

And when it comes to weight limits. That's not entirely true. Yes a man is build stronger, that is just biology. But a woman can still put up some good numbers. There is a powerlifter that I follow called heather Connor. She is 47 kg and can put up some serious numbers for her size and weight. If you want to check her out then her Instagram is heather.e.connor. Think you'll be impressed with that this little lass can actually lift.

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By *issAphroditeWoman
over a year ago

Norwich

"Yeah I like it

I haven't done that amount of research into it but I can understand how that would have an effect on your performance.

There will always be exceptions to the rule and in my Body Pump class there was a woman who could carry more weight than some of the men. But generally speaking, most men are stronger than most women. Men will usually have a greater grip strength in addition to weight bearing ability.

It's the physiology I'm mostly referring to as well, not brute strength or max weight limits. There is a little understanding by supposed professionals, as to how our bodies actually work. Men are seen as the default and women as mere weaker versions of. When actually, that's not the case as just lowering the weight load is not enough to necessarily make it an optimum exercise for women.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yeah I like it

I haven't done that amount of research into it but I can understand how that would have an effect on your performance.

What you will find is that powerlifting goes by something called a wilks score. It takes your weight and the weight you can lift and take a score from that.

But I do understand where you're coming from. But that is just how evolution has created the male and female genders. Women over generations have always been care givers so you don't need strength to look after kids, cook and clean. Where as men have always been the ones that do all the heavy lifting and do the fighting in life. Yes it has changed in the modern age but evolution has to catch up with that now as you can imagine. Who know? After multiple generations of women have been born and have adapted to the changes in the modern life the average woman may be 3x stronger than the average women today. But social norms have a lot to do with evolution.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"Yeah I like it

I haven't done that amount of research into it but I can understand how that would have an effect on your performance.

What you will find is that powerlifting goes by something called a wilks score. It takes your weight and the weight you can lift and take a score from that.

I understood the post to be referring to physiological differences primarily.

Women's bodies are a different shape so this will affect the way that different lifts stress joints and tendons etc.

Read something ages ago about how Women's stance when squatting, for example should be significantly different to men's due to hip/leg angles/ratios.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yeah I like it

I haven't done that amount of research into it but I can understand how that would have an effect on your performance.

What you will find is that powerlifting goes by something called a wilks score. It takes your weight and the weight you can lift and take a score from that.

I understood the post to be referring to physiological differences primarily.

Women's bodies are a different shape so this will affect the way that different lifts stress joints and tendons etc.

Read something ages ago about how Women's stance when squatting, for example should be significantly different to men's due to hip/leg angles/ratios."

Exactly. That is why you will find that most women actually deadlift sumo and squat with a wider stance than a man. But it also as a lot to do with the fact they have ovaries and we don't so the internal structure is very different.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I like all flavours of women

Would you like a selection box?

I would

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By *issAphroditeWoman
over a year ago

Norwich

"Yeah I like it

I haven't done that amount of research into it but I can understand how that would have an effect on your performance.

What you will find is that powerlifting goes by something called a wilks score. It takes your weight and the weight you can lift and take a score from that.

I understood the post to be referring to physiological differences primarily.

Women's bodies are a different shape so this will affect the way that different lifts stress joints and tendons etc.

Read something ages ago about how Women's stance when squatting, for example should be significantly different to men's due to hip/leg angles/ratios."

Exactly. Also having a non sphinctered opening between our legs! Women, particularly those who have had children, can prolapse and far too little importance is given to how different our bodies are. We just get told to lift lighter weights rather than having plans truly designed for our physiology and menstrual cycles.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

"Yeah I like it

I haven't done that amount of research into it but I can understand how that would have an effect on your performance.

What you will find is that powerlifting goes by something called a wilks score. It takes your weight and the weight you can lift and take a score from that.

I understood the post to be referring to physiological differences primarily.

Women's bodies are a different shape so this will affect the way that different lifts stress joints and tendons etc.

Read something ages ago about how Women's stance when squatting, for example should be significantly different to men's due to hip/leg angles/ratios.

I've definitely noticed I need a wider stance when squatting to most men. Otherwise my anatomy just doesn't let me get very low.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone else on fab find muscular / gym fit women very sexy ? "

Nope, don’t do anything to me at all.

But if you find them sexy then that’s your choice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I understood the post to be referring to physiological differences primarily.

Women's bodies are a different shape so this will affect the way that different lifts stress joints and tendons etc.

Read something ages ago about how Women's stance when squatting, for example should be significantly different to men's due to hip/leg angles/ratios.

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Exactly. This comes down to fitness being a male dominated sector with bro science being at the top of the food chain. When I was training with my friend. She was a spin instructor. She wanted stronger legs so I had her doing squats and deadlifts. We trained for 10 weeks as I went to uni after that and she went up 60kg on her deadlift and 50 on her squat. She weighed maybe 60kg and we were able to do that for her. She was impressed as she was the typical girls can't lift heavy type but I proved her wrong. You just need to adjust the training for the individual is all. I am not a licensed PT literally due to not having the money to train as one. But I know enough to be able to help people that need it and have the knowledge to back it up. Unless you delve into sports science and I have to do a bit of research to find it out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I understood the post to be referring to physiological differences primarily.

Women's bodies are a different shape so this will affect the way that different lifts stress joints and tendons etc.

Read something ages ago about how Women's stance when squatting, for example should be significantly different to men's due to hip/leg angles/ratios.

I've definitely noticed I need a wider stance when squatting to most men. Otherwise my anatomy just doesn't let me get very low. "

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For males we don't have to take ovaries into account so can have a narrower stance. But for you women you do so need to creat room for that part.

But an optimal squat shouldn't be more than a 90 degree bend at the knees. People do ass to grass yes and I'm sure there is is scientific reasoning behind it. But from a strength perspective you don't need it. Powerlifting requires a 90 degree bend. But Olympic weightlifting do go ass to grass.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

Lifting isn't just about squatting. I'm a wheelchair user and I lift, just from a seated or reclined/recumbent position. I also have multiple pelvic organ prolapse (one repaired, but not 100%) and I use a silicone pessary to hold up my uterus. The need to understand female anatomy and to protect the pelvic floor is very poorly understood by PTs and by people in general. Some of the gym classes aimed at post natal women, such as aerobics with baby strapped to your chest, give me the heebie-jeebies because at 6wks post partum, you should NOT be jumping up and down and even a few months pp, you shouldn't be creating pressure on the pelvic floor unnecessarily.

Urinary urgency and leakage is considered by many to be an inevitable or normal situation after childbirth but it is not, and women lifting weights and doing high intensity exercise classes without considering their pelvic floor is contributing to those issues.

Many women who've been treated for prolapse are told not to jog, not to jump, not to plank, not to do sit ups and not to lift weights. That's lifetime advice from urogynaecologists. My urogynae said I could lift because I was seated/lying down, but that I needed to be very careful with how I used my pelvic floor. After my surgery, I was banned from all exercise for 4 months, and I wasn't allowed to self propel my wheelchair up any hills because of the intra-abdominal pressure it creates.

Women can lift, but should be very careful and seek correct advice and guidance on technique from people who actually know what they're talking about. Most PTs in gyms unfortunately do not have that knowledge.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

I understood the post to be referring to physiological differences primarily.

Women's bodies are a different shape so this will affect the way that different lifts stress joints and tendons etc.

Read something ages ago about how Women's stance when squatting, for example should be significantly different to men's due to hip/leg angles/ratios.

I've definitely noticed I need a wider stance when squatting to most men. Otherwise my anatomy just doesn't let me get very low.

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For males we don't have to take ovaries into account so can have a narrower stance. But for you women you do so need to creat room for that part.

I'm not sure if ovaries would make much difference. I think it's more having a wider pelvis.

I see loads of guys squatting with a fairly narrow stance and their knees pointed pretty forward and I can't even get close to 90 degrees like that. It just feels like my body isn't supposed to bend like that. I need a wider stance and to turn my feet out to get to 90 degrees.

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By *rowser79Man
over a year ago

Cork

Having gotten into the gym in a big way over the last 2 years I can def appreciate a woman who goes to the gym and trains hard as opposed to those who go to take selfies and check in on instagram!

Female Crossfit athletes look amazing

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

"Lifting isn't just about squatting. I'm a wheelchair user and I lift, just from a seated or reclined/recumbent position. I also have multiple pelvic organ prolapse (one repaired, but not 100%) and I use a silicone pessary to hold up my uterus. The need to understand female anatomy and to protect the pelvic floor is very poorly understood by PTs and by people in general. Some of the gym classes aimed at post natal women, such as aerobics with baby strapped to your chest, give me the heebie-jeebies because at 6wks post partum, you should NOT be jumping up and down and even a few months pp, you shouldn't be creating pressure on the pelvic floor unnecessarily.

I'm so glad my PT knew about this. He warned me to be careful doing leg press and to breathe out on the push and not hold my breath. One time I forgot and I definitely felt why he advised to do that

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By *issAphroditeWoman
over a year ago

Norwich

I understood the post to be referring to physiological differences primarily.

Women's bodies are a different shape so this will affect the way that different lifts stress joints and tendons etc.

Read something ages ago about how Women's stance when squatting, for example should be significantly different to men's due to hip/leg angles/ratios.

I've definitely noticed I need a wider stance when squatting to most men. Otherwise my anatomy just doesn't let me get very low.

Shorted cause of the length.

For males we don't have to take ovaries into account so can have a narrower stance. But for you women you do so need to creat room for that part.

I'm not sure if ovaries would make much difference. I think it's more having a wider pelvis.

Yeah, it's not ovaries. I remember seeing squat tutorial videos lead by men, giving out generic instructions that just do not suit women's bodies. I'd do myself an injury squatting like that.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

I'm so glad my PT knew about this. He warned me to be careful doing leg press and to breathe out on the push and not hold my breath. One time I forgot and I definitely felt why he advised to do that

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My PT also knows his stuff but he does specialise in those of us with special needs! We've had to modify pretty much everything and abandon a few things because it aggravates my prolapse. E.g pulling a weighted sled from a seated position. I cannot do this at all, it feels like my uterus will fall on the floor so we don't do it. I CAN tow a weighed sled behind my chair (done up to 95kg) but I have to think about my breathing etc very carefully.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I understood the post to be referring to physiological differences primarily.

Women's bodies are a different shape so this will affect the way that different lifts stress joints and tendons etc.

Read something ages ago about how Women's stance when squatting, for example should be significantly different to men's due to hip/leg angles/ratios.

I've definitely noticed I need a wider stance when squatting to most men. Otherwise my anatomy just doesn't let me get very low.

Shorted cause of the length.

For males we don't have to take ovaries into account so can have a narrower stance. But for you women you do so need to creat room for that part.

I'm not sure if ovaries would make much difference. I think it's more having a wider pelvis.

They're squatting with bad form. If you stand with your feet shoulder width apart tense your ass and allow your feet to move. They will move to where you body feels natural. That is the angle your feet should be for an optimum squat or deadlift. And then your feet should be around 2x your shoulder width apart. And deadlift is around your shoulder width apart. I suggest watching a few YouTube videos so you can find if you're either squatting with poor form or have poor mobility.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Used to compete in powerlifting but I’m not lean and I’ve never trained for physique or eaten for body composition/leanness. I have what I describe as a sort of fleshy strongwoman physique. I train for myself though, and I don’t really care if men find it attractive or not (although I do like it when I can pick a man up

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I’m not attracted to very muscular men or male powerlifters/strongmen tho. I like twinks or lightly muscled pretty boys.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm so glad my PT knew about this. He warned me to be careful doing leg press and to breathe out on the push and not hold my breath. One time I forgot and I definitely felt why he advised to do that

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To me that is wrong as you're compromising your back by not tensing on the push. You should brace your body with a big belly breathe as you need to brace your body for the compressive force. That is why powerlifters pass out on max attempts because of the pressure build up. It isn't a bad thing. It's just that they're pushing their bodies to the limits. The breathe in and bold tenses what is called tour internal belt so your abs. It braces your lower back so you don't damage it and possibly slip a disk. I'd do some research in to it. Just cause he's a pt doesn't mean he's right. Just remember that. I have trained with amateur strong men so have a decent idea what I'm talking about.

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By *egoMan
over a year ago

Preston

I find strong muscular women very attractive.

Right up until they got body builder face and then suddenly they all look the same….

But I’d choose an Amazon over a generic gym bunny anyday.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

I'm so glad my PT knew about this. He warned me to be careful doing leg press and to breathe out on the push and not hold my breath. One time I forgot and I definitely felt why he advised to do that

That creates excessive intra-abdominal pressure, which pushes the pelvic floor down and because we women have a massive void underneath us, pushes our pelvic organs downward too (not just the uterus, but the bowel, the rectum and bladder too. All of these can, and do, prolapse.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

I understood the post to be referring to physiological differences primarily.

Women's bodies are a different shape so this will affect the way that different lifts stress joints and tendons etc.

Read something ages ago about how Women's stance when squatting, for example should be significantly different to men's due to hip/leg angles/ratios.

I've definitely noticed I need a wider stance when squatting to most men. Otherwise my anatomy just doesn't let me get very low.

Shorted cause of the length.

For males we don't have to take ovaries into account so can have a narrower stance. But for you women you do so need to creat room for that part.

I'm not sure if ovaries would make much difference. I think it's more having a wider pelvis.

I definitely don't have poor mobility. I used to be a dancer

. Most of the guys in my gym however can barely touch their toes.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

I'm so glad my PT knew about this. He warned me to be careful doing leg press and to breathe out on the push and not hold my breath. One time I forgot and I definitely felt why he advised to do that

Trained with amateur strong MEN...

I'd rather not birth my uterus thanks...

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By *issAphroditeWoman
over a year ago

Norwich

I'm so glad my PT knew about this. He warned me to be careful doing leg press and to breathe out on the push and not hold my breath. One time I forgot and I definitely felt why he advised to do that

We're women, we're concerned about our wombs popping out due to excessive strain. You're demonstrating the same lack of understanding I've been talking about. Training with amateur strong men doesn't mean you understand the physiology of our internal organs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fair enough. But all female powerlifters tense up the exact same as a man does from what I've seen. They've been doing it for years. Couldn't just just be down to weak pelvic and keagle muscles?

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

I'm so glad my PT knew about this. He warned me to be careful doing leg press and to breathe out on the push and not hold my breath. One time I forgot and I definitely felt why he advised to do that

It felt horrible the time I forgot. Certainly won't forget again

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I definitely don't have poor mobility. I used to be a dancer

. Most of the guys in my gym however can barely touch their toes. "

Fair enough. What kind of dancing did you do?

Everyone squats with subtle differences and that's just down to everyone's body being different. You just do what works for you. Could it maybe be your hip flexors?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone else on fab find muscular / gym fit women very sexy ? "

Yup

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By *wistedTooCouple
over a year ago

Frimley

No attraction to overly toned muscular women but huge admiration for their work!

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By *ond Jimmy BondMan
over a year ago

London

Am I the only person that goes for personality? That’s usually what I find attractive but I’ve always felt I’m in the minority

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah I know what you're talking about. But as I stated earlier I gave trained with women and had them brace the same as I did. And there was no uterus popping at all and she was doing max efforts and going light headed. So I wouldn't say that is a common occurrence. Maybe it's down to a weak pelvic floor or weak keagle muscles?

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

Fair enough. But all female powerlifters tense up the exact same as a man does from what I've seen. They've been doing it for years. Couldn't just just be down to weak pelvic and keagle muscles? "

Leg press is a particularly risky excercise for women apparently when it comes to the pelvic floor which is why I was advised as I was. Aint no kegals that are going to make your pelvic floor able to deal with the force of pushing the equivalent of a fully grown adult or two if you do it in a way that's pushing your internal organs against it rather than keeping the force as much through your legs as possible by breathing out. People with pelvic floor issues shouldn't do legs press at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok. Just got this off of Google. It is due to a weak pelvic floor so as long as you keep it strong a prolapse won't occur.

Long-term or repeated heavy lifting as a female can actually cause what is called a uterine prolapse. A uterine prolapse is when the pelvic floor muscles are weakened, which support the uterus, and the uterus descends downward.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fair enough. But all female powerlifters tense up the exact same as a man does from what I've seen. They've been doing it for years. Couldn't just just be down to weak pelvic and keagle muscles?

And the post I just made supports that. So realistically if any woman has any pelvic floor weakness then they shouldn't be lifting at all till it is strengthened.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Now I understand why women at the gym do hip thrusts with a barbell. To keep the pelvic floor strong.

This is also off of google.

To strengthen your pelvic floor muscles, sit comfortably and squeeze the muscles 10 to 15 times. Do not hold your breath or tighten your stomach, bottom or thigh muscles at the same time. When you get used to doing pelvic floor exercises, you can try holding each squeeze for a few seconds.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

I definitely don't have poor mobility. I used to be a dancer

. Most of the guys in my gym however can barely touch their toes.

Fair enough. What kind of dancing did you do?

Everyone squats with subtle differences and that's just down to everyone's body being different. You just do what works for you. Could it maybe be your hip flexors?"

Ballet, tap, modern, jazz and musical theatre.

I am thank you

. Nope, mine are plenty flexible and strong. Years of high kicks!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I definitely don't have poor mobility. I used to be a dancer

. Most of the guys in my gym however can barely touch their toes.

Fair enough. What kind of dancing did you do?

Everyone squats with subtle differences and that's just down to everyone's body being different. You just do what works for you. Could it maybe be your hip flexors?

Ballet, tap, modern, jazz and musical theatre.

I am thank you

. Nope, mine are plenty flexible and strong. Years of high kicks!

Quiet the talent you are.

Take a look at the posts I made they might help you out a bit with the understanding. Not saying you're thick but nothing wrong with a. Bit of knowledge that you may not have known.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I really appreciate a fit in shape woman. I admire them physically and the discipline they have to get in that shape.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

Fair enough. But all female powerlifters tense up the exact same as a man does from what I've seen. They've been doing it for years. Couldn't just just be down to weak pelvic and keagle muscles?

And the post I just made supports that. So realistically if any woman has any pelvic floor weakness then they shouldn't be lifting at all till it is strengthened. "

I don't have pelvic floor weakness though. I still need to be careful doing leg press as a woman though.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

I definitely don't have poor mobility. I used to be a dancer

. Most of the guys in my gym however can barely touch their toes.

Fair enough. What kind of dancing did you do?

Everyone squats with subtle differences and that's just down to everyone's body being different. You just do what works for you. Could it maybe be your hip flexors?

Ballet, tap, modern, jazz and musical theatre.

I am thank you

. Nope, mine are plenty flexible and strong. Years of high kicks!

Quiet the talent you are.

Take a look at the posts I made they might help you out a bit with the understanding. Not saying you're thick but nothing wrong with a. Bit of knowledge that you may not have known. "

I'm sorry but I'm not taking advice from someone who thinks my ovaries get in the way of my squats. Not trying to be rude but I'm going to stick to other sources of information.

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By *angerous123Man
over a year ago

Leeds

I'm so glad my PT knew about this. He warned me to be careful doing leg press and to breathe out on the push and not hold my breath. One time I forgot and I definitely felt why he advised to do that

Intrabdominal pressure isn't needed on the positive portion of a leg press. The lower back will be under no strain so long as its flat against the back pad.

I know you mean well but you keep mentioning powerlifting. Powerlifting is maximum effort over 1 lift. Causes huge strain on the body. The rules for powerlifting are a far cry from your average woman wanting to get a little stronger and leaner in the gym by weightlifting. Most would be better following the basic elements of bodybuilding training ie making a lighter weight feel like a heavy weight, strict form, reps in the 8-20 range, exercises that feel comfortable to the individual (there's no rule saying you have to squat, deadlift or bench)

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over a year ago

I definitely don't have poor mobility. I used to be a dancer

. Most of the guys in my gym however can barely touch their toes.

Fair enough. What kind of dancing did you do?

Everyone squats with subtle differences and that's just down to everyone's body being different. You just do what works for you. Could it maybe be your hip flexors?

Ballet, tap, modern, jazz and musical theatre.

I am thank you

. Nope, mine are plenty flexible and strong. Years of high kicks!

Quiet the talent you are.

Take a look at the posts I made they might help you out a bit with the understanding. Not saying you're thick but nothing wrong with a. Bit of knowledge that you may not have known.

I'm sorry but I'm not taking advice from someone who thinks my ovaries get in the way of my squats. Not trying to be rude but I'm going to stick to other sources of information. "

I haven't done enough research into the female side of lifting so I understand your need to overlook anything I say.

But from what I have seen in the little bit of research I have just done. It seems like women who experience prolapse are the ones with a weakened pelvic floor. So as you're a dancer you obviously won't have a weak pelvic floor so should be fine to lift like anyone else.

But as you've stated you don't want my advice which I fully understand and have no gribes against.

Till we meet again in the forums I guess. Been nice talking to you. Been refreshing to have a nice open-minded chat on here.

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over a year ago

I'm so glad my PT knew about this. He warned me to be careful doing leg press and to breathe out on the push and not hold my breath. One time I forgot and I definitely felt why he advised to do that

Intrabdominal pressure isn't needed on the positive portion of a leg press. The lower back will be under no strain so long as its flat against the back pad.

Yeah I'm 100% behind this. I'm a PowerBuilder. Been out of it a few years due to covid but you know.

So I incorporate both powerlifting and bodybuilding into my workouts.

As I've not used a leg press more than maybe 3 times I just go by what people have said to me. Obviously they were wrong.

There are obviously more to lifting than the old school squad dead and bench but they are quiet effective if you're not looking to build one specific muscle group at a time like bodybuilders do.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

I definitely don't have poor mobility. I used to be a dancer

. Most of the guys in my gym however can barely touch their toes.

Fair enough. What kind of dancing did you do?

Everyone squats with subtle differences and that's just down to everyone's body being different. You just do what works for you. Could it maybe be your hip flexors?

Ballet, tap, modern, jazz and musical theatre.

I am thank you

. Nope, mine are plenty flexible and strong. Years of high kicks!

Quiet the talent you are.

Take a look at the posts I made they might help you out a bit with the understanding. Not saying you're thick but nothing wrong with a. Bit of knowledge that you may not have known.

I'm sorry but I'm not taking advice from someone who thinks my ovaries get in the way of my squats. Not trying to be rude but I'm going to stick to other sources of information.

I haven't done enough research into the female side of lifting so I understand your need to overlook anything I say.

But as you've stated you don't want my advice which I fully understand and have no gribes against.

Till we meet again in the forums I guess. Been nice talking to you. Been refreshing to have a nice open-minded chat on here. "

I'm currently a 29 year old ex dancer but I need to look after my pelvic floor to prevent issues when I get older.

I think your heart is in the right place but it's probably best to avoid giving advice if you're not in possession of a lot of knowledge on this kind of stuff as someone could hurt themselves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I definitely don't have poor mobility. I used to be a dancer

. Most of the guys in my gym however can barely touch their toes.

Fair enough. What kind of dancing did you do?

Everyone squats with subtle differences and that's just down to everyone's body being different. You just do what works for you. Could it maybe be your hip flexors?

Ballet, tap, modern, jazz and musical theatre.

I am thank you

. Nope, mine are plenty flexible and strong. Years of high kicks!

Quiet the talent you are.

Take a look at the posts I made they might help you out a bit with the understanding. Not saying you're thick but nothing wrong with a. Bit of knowledge that you may not have known.

I'm sorry but I'm not taking advice from someone who thinks my ovaries get in the way of my squats. Not trying to be rude but I'm going to stick to other sources of information.

I haven't done enough research into the female side of lifting so I understand your need to overlook anything I say.

But as you've stated you don't want my advice which I fully understand and have no gribes against.

Till we meet again in the forums I guess. Been nice talking to you. Been refreshing to have a nice open-minded chat on here.

I'm currently a 29 year old ex dancer but I need to look after my pelvic floor to prevent issues when I get older.

I think your heart is in the right place but it's probably best to avoid giving advice if you're not in possession of a lot of knowledge on this kind of stuff as someone could hurt themselves. "

Ohh yeah I fully understand that and that's why I didn't get all arsey haha. I'm an engineering student not a sports science student so I know when something is out of my area of expertise. I do my research before advising people for sure. It's not just off the cuff stuff I make up when I advise

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By *issAphroditeWoman
over a year ago

Norwich

I'm sorry but I'm not taking advice from someone who thinks my ovaries get in the way of my squats. Not trying to be rude but I'm going to stick to other sources of information. "

Ditto. I'm a little offended by the insinuation that the risks to women getting injured is due to us having weak pelvic floors etc. We are built differently, that's not a weakness. Which just goes to prove how male biology is seen as thenm standard and female as an inferior version of. It's different and men would do well to listen tonwjat we're saying about it. Constantly comparing us to power lifters shows a real lack of understanding.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

Fair enough. But all female powerlifters tense up the exact same as a man does from what I've seen. They've been doing it for years. Couldn't just just be down to weak pelvic and keagle muscles? "

Female powerlifters are at massive increased risk of pelvic organ prolapse. Some people (like me) have genetic predisposition to prolapse due to anatomical variation. I was pregnant at 16 and already, at that age, my uterus was positioned way lower than would be expected, to the point they couldn't locate my son's head on the 20wk ultrasound (his head was below my pelvic brim, normally only happens right at the end of pregnancy). Having my second child has left me with permenant nerve damage in my pelvis due to my low lying (prolapsed) uterus.

As a 16yo, I did ever form of sport going and prior to my second pregnancy, was incredibly fit. My pelvic floor was genetically weak, yes, but there's bugger all I could have done to remedy it, and until the prolapse happens, women do not know they are at risk.

About 50% of women will experience symptomatic pelvic organ dysfunction during their lives, increased risk for people with hyper mobility syndromes, genetic predisposition due to anatomy (like me), anyone who gives birth, who gives birth with forceps or Ventouse, and women who create excess intraabdominal pressure through exercise and heavy lifting.

Female powerlifters, in many cases, leak urine when lifting which is symptomatic of excess pressure on the pelvic floor and of damage.

An article citing this:

Prevalence of Pelvic Floor Dysfunction, Bother and Risk Factors and Knowledge of the Pelvic Floor Muscles in Norwegian Male and Female Powerlifters and Olympic Weightlifters

Skaug, Kristina Lindquist; Engh, Marie Ellström; Frawley, Helena4; Bø, Kari1,

Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research: December 03, 2020 -

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over a year ago

I'm sorry but I'm not taking advice from someone who thinks my ovaries get in the way of my squats. Not trying to be rude but I'm going to stick to other sources of information.

I was comparing to female lifters actually. But ok. I don't appreciate the lack of respect I just had from you either where as you can see I already put my hand up and said that I accept that I'm not in a huge book of knowledge on the subject. But doing a couple of searches can definitely solve a few problems. Like I did and just relayed the findings on.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

I'm so glad my PT knew about this. He warned me to be careful doing leg press and to breathe out on the push and not hold my breath. One time I forgot and I definitely felt why he advised to do that

Intrabdominal pressure isn't needed on the positive portion of a leg press. The lower back will be under no strain so long as its flat against the back pad.

Thank you, someone who understands.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fair enough. But all female powerlifters tense up the exact same as a man does from what I've seen. They've been doing it for years. Couldn't just just be down to weak pelvic and keagle muscles?

Female powerlifters, in many cases, leak urine when lifting which is symptomatic of excess pressure on the pelvic floor and of damage.

An article citing this:

Prevalence of Pelvic Floor Dysfunction, Bother and Risk Factors and Knowledge of the Pelvic Floor Muscles in Norwegian Male and Female Powerlifters and Olympic Weightlifters

Skaug, Kristina Lindquist; Engh, Marie Ellström; Frawley, Helena4; Bø, Kari1,

Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research: December 03, 2020 - "

Yes but your situation is quiet unique as you have disabilities that will agriveate that. But for the average person this will not be a common thing. There are plenty of women that lift just the same as a man does and they aren't having their guts falling on the floor. I've never read one thing that states that womens insides are falling out due to the gym.

It's like anything anyone does. Know your limits and know how to look after your body. Simple as that. Like if I pull a muscle I'm not gonna work that muscle again. I'm going to let it rest and start again after that muscle recovers. Same can be said for a weak pelvic floor. Strengthen it then continue. If you've got a strong one then great. If you've got stuff that will make you prone to issues. Work around it. But don't blanket statement something as everyone is different.

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By *dquestCouple
over a year ago

Peterborough

We do

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

Fair enough. But all female powerlifters tense up the exact same as a man does from what I've seen. They've been doing it for years. Couldn't just just be down to weak pelvic and keagle muscles?

Female powerlifters, in many cases, leak urine when lifting which is symptomatic of excess pressure on the pelvic floor and of damage.

An article citing this:

Prevalence of Pelvic Floor Dysfunction, Bother and Risk Factors and Knowledge of the Pelvic Floor Muscles in Norwegian Male and Female Powerlifters and Olympic Weightlifters

Skaug, Kristina Lindquist; Engh, Marie Ellström; Frawley, Helena4; Bø, Kari1,

Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research: December 03, 2020 -

My disability has been caused by my predisposition to prolapse. If my uterus wasn't prolapsed, I'd not have suffered pelvic nerve damage. It's not the other way around.

I still lift, but in a very different way to the majority.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not fab but my cousin is a body builder. Unless close to the competition I don't find her body over done when she posts a pic in shorts and t-shirt! She seems so strong, gracefully moving and empowered by it on the inside too. Anyone who owns what they have is attractive really. Maybe not too me personally always but confidence is a major sexy factor? isn't it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This thread has taken a very confusing turn

As someone who’s trained in powerlifting for 12+ years, competed nationally and holds BP coach certification (although I only do competition day handling, not PT) I have to say…. Yes sometimes female powerlifters pee when they lift. If you go to a masters (over 40) competition you’d think they were sponsored by Tena

But most powerlifters who love their sport and leak a bit kind of regard it as a sacrifice you make. Yes, we all do our kegels or see physios (I saw a specialist pelvic floor physio for a while) but we love lifting and we accept that sometimes it happens, especially when you’re maxing out at a comp. I wear a pad when I compete (or when I’m testing my maxes) “just in case” for peace of mind and it’s like, I dunno, a thing you do.

If some women want to quit powerlifting because they find it embarrassing or are worried about prolapse, that’s up to them.

If some women want to carry on powerlifting and accept the risk, that’s up to them.

If men think it’s gross women sometimes pee when they lift heavy, who gives a fuck, we’re not lifting for them

(Fwiw I’ve seen blokes poop themselves on the platform at competitions as well)

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

"This thread has taken a very confusing turn

If some women want to quit powerlifting because they find it embarrassing or are worried about prolapse, that’s up to them.

If some women want to carry on powerlifting and accept the risk, that’s up to them.

If men think it’s gross women sometimes pee when they lift heavy, who gives a fuck, we’re not lifting for them

(Fwiw I’ve seen blokes poop themselves on the platform at competitions as well)"

Oh I don't think anyone is saying people can't make their own assessment and decide if something is worth the risk for themselves personally. That's what any of us who partake in BDSM do on a regular basis. Heck weightlifting as a whole carries risks for everyone. I think it was more a case of acknowledging that there is a risk, we can do things to reduce the risk and that some of the risks for women are different to those for men

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over a year ago

My disability has been caused by my predisposition to prolapse. If my uterus wasn't prolapsed, I'd not have suffered pelvic nerve damage. It's not the other way around.

I still lift, but in a very different way to the majority. "

Exactly my point. You have an issue so you're working around it and taking care of your body whilst doing it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This thread has taken a very confusing turn

If some women want to quit powerlifting because they find it embarrassing or are worried about prolapse, that’s up to them.

If some women want to carry on powerlifting and accept the risk, that’s up to them.

If men think it’s gross women sometimes pee when they lift heavy, who gives a fuck, we’re not lifting for them

(Fwiw I’ve seen blokes poop themselves on the platform at competitions as well)"

Thank you for this. This is exactly what this thread needed.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

My disability has been caused by my predisposition to prolapse. If my uterus wasn't prolapsed, I'd not have suffered pelvic nerve damage. It's not the other way around.

I still lift, but in a very different way to the majority.

Exactly my point. You have an issue so you're working around it and taking care of your body whilst doing it. "

But I didn't know that these issues could happen and merrily went about lifting quite a lot as a younger person. I have no idea if my sports activities contributed to my issues, but I'd wager most women actually have no idea about the potential issues that heavy lifting and often activities, like jumping and running, can cause. That's the issue. Prevention can only happen if people know the risks clearly and those advising them (such as gym PTs), can give accurate advice.

Pooping and peeing while lifting is not normal - powerlifters might accept the risks, but I'm sure Ms Ordinary Gym Goer does not want to start leaking urine as a result of lifting weights.

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over a year ago

My disability has been caused by my predisposition to prolapse. If my uterus wasn't prolapsed, I'd not have suffered pelvic nerve damage. It's not the other way around.

I still lift, but in a very different way to the majority.

Exactly my point. You have an issue so you're working around it and taking care of your body whilst doing it.

Pooping and peeing while lifting is not normal - powerlifters might accept the risks, but I'm sure Ms Ordinary Gym Goer does not want to start leaking urine as a result of lifting weights."

I can say it definitely is normal when lifting heavy. You obviously haven't pushed your body to its limit. I haven't pooped myself yet but if you did your research then you would see that passing out, pooping and peeing is pretty normal in high level lifting because of the amount of pressure you're putting on your body. Plus deadlifting and squatting opens your anus to the perfect angle for something to pop out mid lift.

If I'm being honest from your message about risks and hazards of lifting, I am surprised you even walk into a gym. Do you not know about hernia and slipped disks? Plenty of body builders, strong men and powerlifters have torn muscles off the bone and had to have the muscle put back. But they still continue after recovery.

Crossing the road runs a risk. Hell in this day and age breathing creates it's own risks. So if people are going to be scared of their own shadows and not take risks and accept that there is risk involved in everything and use things to minimise them then isn't it their choice?

If they wanna shit themselves in the middle of the gym that's their choice. Look on YouTube. You will find plenty of "accidents" and torn muscles.

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